I'm not a lawyer, but I'd say pulling the gun and pointing it was enough. Doesn't matter how many clicks. I'm also imagining that he catches a lot more charges when they investigate further.
In order for the gun to misfire 3 times, he would need to wrack the slide and chamber two new rounds and each one would have to fail. Either way, this should still be attempted murder.
I decided to google and there are apparently double action striker guns out there. I was with you on the lack of hammer basically making this impossible, but the Walther P99 is striker fired and can indeed be SA or DA.
This is 100% attempted murder. I’m pretty sure his intent will be measured and the only outcome is attempted murder. What a fucking idiot. Now he’s gotta sit in a box while our taxes feed him. Kudos for the officer showing trigger discipline and sparing the invalids life but what a shame.
We pay for these people regardless. Thieves increase the costs of living for everyone. They also probably don’t work very much, if at all, and probably take government assistance on top of the theft.
The only reason that cop didn’t shoot that kid is because that other guy was there trying to subdue him. It kinda looks like he hesitated because of the guy and then kicked ole boy and took him down. That kid is such an idiot. Why ruin your life over something so menial?!? He deserves a long time in jail for that shit. Glad the cop didn’t get shot.
I think he didn’t shoot because the other guy knocked the gun from the kids hand pretty quickly. If you slow down the video you can see the gun drop to the floor
So a misdemeanor that he’d probably get released from jail that night gets turned into felony attempted murder. I can’t think of a dumber way to ruin your life.
Wal-Mart's gonna Wal-Mart. There is very little that surprises me any longer. I told my friend yesterday, if she called me and told me she'd just seen a purple hippo with green spots walking down the road, I'd probably just say, "Really? Interesting", and go on with my day.
"Shane C.L. Newman, 21, of Plain Township is charged with attempted murder and other offenses. He is being held at the Stark County Jail on $1 million bond.
He and Katerina D. Jeffrey, 23, of Canton were stopped on the afternoon of Dec. 18 and accused of shoplifting before being taken into a processing room at the store located at 3200 Atlantic Blvd. NE.
Newman is not allowed to have a gun due to convictions in 2023 for aggravated drug possession and illegal conveyance of drugs of abuse onto grounds of a specified governmental facility, the Stark County Jail.
Police said Newman was in possession of a loaded gun and 50 blue pills, which Newman allegedly said were MDMA, a synthetic, psychoactive substance sometimes called Molly.
Newman is charged with attempted murder, felonious assault on a police officer, robbery, aggravated drug possession and having a weapon under disability.
The judge set a $500,000 bond for Jeffrey and ordered her to have no contact with Walmart. Jeffrey is charged with complicity to commit robbery.
Canton City Prosecutor Kristina Lockwood said Newman has a history of failure to appear in court and is on probation. She said Jeffrey had ammunition at the time of the offense and has past convictions for robbery and escape.
The police complaint against Jeffrey says she participated in a theft while she knew Newman had a gun."
Lucky she didn’t lose her life. Cop would have been 100% justified dumping a mag into him and she had the reaction of slighting shifting away to the left. She’d of been in that cross fire. I’m glad white shirt dude hero’d up and the cop got to knee the kids face in instead
I mean once they frisked him he’d catch a gun charge too, and probably a charge for stealing the gun (he didn’t buy that Gucci glock himself), and maybe a charge for any other crimes attached to that gun, and I think simply having a gun on him while committing the shoplifting crime can in some jurisdictions upgrade it to a felony offense.
I mean in this day and age he wouldn’t do that much time either way, prosecutors just don’t seem to go that hard on anything less than murder, but I guess he liked the idea of dying shooting it out with cops more than the 3-5 years prison he probably would’ve served.
Bro just speed ran a minor misdemeanor to life in prison or damn near. Probably would have just walked out with an appearance ticket depending on the state.
Man thank God that didn't go the other way..I was pretty wild when I was young, and now that im older I have a lot more respect for cops and the shit they have to deal with.. For example, this guy could have said goodbye to his family for the last time, all because of this dumbass punk kid!
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No, he's a cop but I think he just walked in, or that's what is alluded to in some of the other discussions on the video and it makes sense. You don't want some store manager screwing up prosecution so you just hold the offender and as a store manager you really don't have any rights to be searching and seizing in most states, and I'm certain that insurance companies would frown on such things as well.
So, giving good grace and intent to everyone involved except the dirtbag, I think that the cop had barely gotten there.
Watch the clip from the below post. The cop was in, asked if the kid had anything else, and the kid said no and sat down. He had time and opportunity to frisk the kid.
I love at the end of the video the security guard rolls in with a shirt saying not today karen.
They need to blend in with the shoppers.
I worked retail before, im well aware. Im just pointing out the choice of shirt lol.
So the gun misfired 3 times, did I catch that correctly? So thats attempted murder, right?
I'm not a lawyer, but I'd say pulling the gun and pointing it was enough. Doesn't matter how many clicks. I'm also imagining that he catches a lot more charges when they investigate further.
In order for the gun to misfire 3 times, he would need to wrack the slide and chamber two new rounds and each one would have to fail. Either way, this should still be attempted murder.
No. Some double action striker fired pistols can keep dropping the hammer on the same round.
Double action striker fired? Striker fired pistols lack a hammer...
I decided to google and there are apparently double action striker guns out there. I was with you on the lack of hammer basically making this impossible, but the Walther P99 is striker fired and can indeed be SA or DA.
Good to know, TIL.
Is SA and DA single action and double action?
Yep
I was with you, but i did Google it.
It's rare but it seems like a thing. I don't know.
This is 100% attempted murder. I’m pretty sure his intent will be measured and the only outcome is attempted murder. What a fucking idiot. Now he’s gotta sit in a box while our taxes feed him. Kudos for the officer showing trigger discipline and sparing the invalids life but what a shame.
We pay for these people regardless. Thieves increase the costs of living for everyone. They also probably don’t work very much, if at all, and probably take government assistance on top of the theft.
You would hope
I saw an article that said that was the charge, attempted murder on law enforcement.
looks like it wasn’t cocked
NOT TODAY KAREN!
When keeping it real goes wrong
Keeping real stupid
Turns out they kept it realer
Emmure - When Keeping It Real Goes Wrong
Best part is the ball-kick.
I dint notice but yeah
For the people wondering where it happened, it's right as the cop comes up to grab the guy
The only reason that cop didn’t shoot that kid is because that other guy was there trying to subdue him. It kinda looks like he hesitated because of the guy and then kicked ole boy and took him down. That kid is such an idiot. Why ruin your life over something so menial?!? He deserves a long time in jail for that shit. Glad the cop didn’t get shot.
I think he didn’t shoot because the other guy knocked the gun from the kids hand pretty quickly. If you slow down the video you can see the gun drop to the floor
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So a misdemeanor that he’d probably get released from jail that night gets turned into felony attempted murder. I can’t think of a dumber way to ruin your life.
Wal-Mart's gonna Wal-Mart. There is very little that surprises me any longer. I told my friend yesterday, if she called me and told me she'd just seen a purple hippo with green spots walking down the road, I'd probably just say, "Really? Interesting", and go on with my day.
HE actually pulled the triger
Atleast twice
guy in white is a fucking hero, who knows what he would have had time to do if he wasnt on him almost immediately
From The Repository (cantonrep.com)--
"Shane C.L. Newman, 21, of Plain Township is charged with attempted murder and other offenses. He is being held at the Stark County Jail on $1 million bond.
He and Katerina D. Jeffrey, 23, of Canton were stopped on the afternoon of Dec. 18 and accused of shoplifting before being taken into a processing room at the store located at 3200 Atlantic Blvd. NE.
Newman is not allowed to have a gun due to convictions in 2023 for aggravated drug possession and illegal conveyance of drugs of abuse onto grounds of a specified governmental facility, the Stark County Jail.
Police said Newman was in possession of a loaded gun and 50 blue pills, which Newman allegedly said were MDMA, a synthetic, psychoactive substance sometimes called Molly.
Newman is charged with attempted murder, felonious assault on a police officer, robbery, aggravated drug possession and having a weapon under disability.
The judge set a $500,000 bond for Jeffrey and ordered her to have no contact with Walmart. Jeffrey is charged with complicity to commit robbery.
Canton City Prosecutor Kristina Lockwood said Newman has a history of failure to appear in court and is on probation. She said Jeffrey had ammunition at the time of the offense and has past convictions for robbery and escape.
The police complaint against Jeffrey says she participated in a theft while she knew Newman had a gun."
Turn a stupid little misdemeanor into a serious felony. Brilliant.
If Colbert Report taught me anything it’s that there is a Canton in every state.
That cop kicked that guy so hard in the balls.
I heard the ‘oof.’
Shoplifting to attempted murder, in the blink of an eye! That guy is f***ed!
This little tweak doesn't look cut out for life in prison at all, and that's where he's headed.
Fantastic job by the arresting officer.
From canton here That Walmart is wild af to begin with I'm surprised it hasn't had a shooting yet
Did he knee him in the balls?
You can hear the ‘oof.’
She's so fucking lucky she didn't lose her partner just now. What an incredibly stupid thing to do.
For shoplifting? He nearly got himself shot to death over a shoplifting charge?? What kind of short-sighted thinking is that?
I have to wonder if he looked different, that this might have ended differently. But we can only speculate in that regard.
He's her partner? I assumed she was his mother.
Lucky she didn’t lose her life. Cop would have been 100% justified dumping a mag into him and she had the reaction of slighting shifting away to the left. She’d of been in that cross fire. I’m glad white shirt dude hero’d up and the cop got to knee the kids face in instead
I mean once they frisked him he’d catch a gun charge too, and probably a charge for stealing the gun (he didn’t buy that Gucci glock himself), and maybe a charge for any other crimes attached to that gun, and I think simply having a gun on him while committing the shoplifting crime can in some jurisdictions upgrade it to a felony offense.
I mean in this day and age he wouldn’t do that much time either way, prosecutors just don’t seem to go that hard on anything less than murder, but I guess he liked the idea of dying shooting it out with cops more than the 3-5 years prison he probably would’ve served.
Excellent work by the cop to check his crossfire and not shoot white shirt.
Bro just speed ran a minor misdemeanor to life in prison or damn near. Probably would have just walked out with an appearance ticket depending on the state.
She's complicit
Man thank God that didn't go the other way..I was pretty wild when I was young, and now that im older I have a lot more respect for cops and the shit they have to deal with.. For example, this guy could have said goodbye to his family for the last time, all because of this dumbass punk kid!
Is that his mom sitting beside him? Imagine going through this. Man...
His girlfriend
Ah. Well not anymore hopefully.
i was waiting for white shirt guy to start flailing his hands and saying "oh my god, oh my god" he needs some training.
He’s cooked. Attempted murder after being caught for shoplifting? He’s better off removed from gen pop.
From petty theft to definitely a felony. Brilliant.
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That cop showed a lot of restraint.
I hope they adjusted that parasite thoroughly
He’s just misunderstood, get him some therapy and back to school
What was the thought process there? Its shoplifting. Youre arent going to federal prison for it. But after pulling that stunt you will.
The knee to the face was spot on.
I’m sorry he’s a thief and they didn’t search his belongings?
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He go away long time
A gun, a lumpy pillow and a very stupid gun that should be the title of this video.
Why didnt they do a body search smh
It looks like he pulled the gun as soon as the officer walked in.
Dude was sitting technically detained the whole time talking it could have been a quick search
Is loss prevention allowed to do searches?
A quick search says they can't force a search.
How is the cop supposed to search when they just walked through the door?
I'm surprised the usual redditors aren't crying excessive force and police brutality
Gtfo man they dont do that when people pull guns.
Its just an attempt by a shitty redditor to strawman.
Why did they not frisk someone they detained?
store people shouldn't and can't properly do a cop's job
That guy in the blue uniform at around 30 second into the video sure looks like a cop to me. But you're saying he's a security guard?
No, he's a cop but I think he just walked in, or that's what is alluded to in some of the other discussions on the video and it makes sense. You don't want some store manager screwing up prosecution so you just hold the offender and as a store manager you really don't have any rights to be searching and seizing in most states, and I'm certain that insurance companies would frown on such things as well.
So, giving good grace and intent to everyone involved except the dirtbag, I think that the cop had barely gotten there.
Watch the clip from the below post. The cop was in, asked if the kid had anything else, and the kid said no and sat down. He had time and opportunity to frisk the kid.
https://www.reddit.com/r/nextfuckinglevel/comments/1prsbg4/an_unarmed_security_guard_prevents_an_officer/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button