Switched from 5800x to 5800x3d (used $350) and instantly gained 20% performance and my 1% lows faded into a distant memory. Gave my GTX 1070 more life until I found a used 3080ti.
Got my 5800x3d about a year ago for $225. It was an INCREDIBLE deal. At that point, these were already basically unfindable. I had actually already spent $250 for a 5700x3d, but I nabbed this one when I saw it on Marketplace and managed to return the 5700x3d luckily.
Legendary. Same tier as my old i5-2500K when that came out. Lasted many years. I expect my 5800X3D to last at least until AM6. It’s been a rock star playing Microsoft Flight Simulator, a notoriously CPU-hungry beast.
Even in CS2 the 5700X3D performs really well. I play at a reasonably high level, and my average fps is somewhere around 300-350, which I find to be more than sufficient.
just to put it into numbers: with this setup I'm gaming on 1440p 144Hz. Every modern title runs above 100 fps on high or better settings. In some of them I can even turn on DLAA, there's so much headroom.
Except UE5 slop of course, but those games run like shit even on a 5090D.
just to put it into numbers: with this setup I'm gaming on 1440p 144Hz
I'm doing that with an R5 3600 and 6800XT.
This subreddit is -understandably- skewed towards showing off the most luxurious builds, but people seem to forget that you don't need high-end hardware to have a lot of fun.
My gf has a i7 10700f and a rtx3070 and at 1440p ultrawide, it's no different from my rig, a r7 5700x3d and a 5070ti in 90% of games, even with the "insufficient" vram, it's still very much capable of all the fun
A 5600x pair with 5080 will get you over 100fps in Battlefield 6 1440p ultra.
There's no need to upgrade if you just want to play recent games at ultra 1440p.
Now if you want to match your monitor refresh rate, then that's another story.
How would you say 11th gen holds up? I just ordered a used kit that contains a 11900KF + Z490 Gaming X + 16gb DDR4 for 225 Euros. Seemed like a very decent deal but now I'm getting worried that it might bottleneck my (also used) RTX 4070 I ordered separately.
Bottlenecks are mostly myth. Ignore the nonsense bottleneck calculators and just tweak your game settings until you get an experience you enjoy.
11th gen is fine... well, it was laughed at at launch because the 10c 20t 10900k outperformed the 8c 16t 11900k in a lot of situations but it still works. Can't compete with the newest gen budget cpus unlike Zen3x3D but it's fine.
Basically anything from 2018 onwards is still viable for a gaming focused PC, if you want to play the latest and greatest broken performance games you might need something more in a couple of years.
If it works and you can play the games you enjoy it's good enough.
I have a 12900k. I'm not upgrading anytime soon. Only Cyberpunk gives me a cpu Bottleneck rarely. No other game I have yet to play needs more cpu than what I have.
Yeah It's still good. I have 32GB of DDR4 and was thinking of just swapping the cpu up to a 5900XT and skipping a generation and going straight to AM6 DDR6
Same, I got really fast 32gb ram and a x3d. Might change the gpu in the coming years (5750xt) but with current ram prices it not worth going for am5. I can still play everything with pretty good settings in 1440p
This is what I did. I had a 4070 Ti Super that i got a couple years ago and instead of keeping it and going AM5, i got a 4090 a couple months ago instead.
Meanwhile I have clueless friends that went through 2, 3 setups and thousands of dollars in a single year.
I've done exactly this, from a R5 3600 + 16GB DDR4
I got 64GB of DDR4 about a month ago for less than £100 and the CPU for £200. Intending to swap my current 2070 with a 9070/9070XT/5070Ti depending on budget which will result in my PC serving my use case for years to come. Hopefully by then RAM prices will fall
I am in the same boat. But im on a x570 platform, and ive had USB issues. I have tried updating drivers, but it hasn't made a difference. I need to upgrade from my 3600, but im thinking about downgrading my mobo. Just worried about putting my self into the stone ages just to run a x3d
Oh nice perfect. I do game at 1080p. Very high is still great. And its been s while since I played a brand new demanding game. I think my newest released game might be jedi fallen order. But I did try the warhammer 40k space marine 2 demo so I guess that would be newest game. I didn't pay attention to thr settings but it ran really good. Didnt notice any lag at all. Warhammer 40k total war im definitely looking forward to and its going to be cpu intensive. But im okay with graphics hit. I noticed in newer games low settings still looks decent compared to older games where low settings just completely erased all the details.
With recent optimizations, warhammer 3 uses the gpu more than the cpu. So you can assume that the gpu will do the heavy lifting for total war wh 40k. Just keep an eye out for used 5700x3ds below 200$ and snag them even if you go into debt. /j
Dragged my feet collecting parts over about 4 years to build my first, cheap PC that I finally finished this year. 5600x with an Arc A750. ARC runs at 70 fps on 1080 Ultra and CoD at about 110 fps 1440, both with FSR. I wasn’t expecting much as I was well aware of what I built and with what, but I’m more than content.
Ha, I stay a generation or two behind, because I don't care. I just "upgraded" last week from a 1060 3gb, 8 gigs ram, and a Ryzen 7 2700X to a 3060ti, 32gig ram, and a Ryzen 7 5800xt. Bought it all used with the exception of the processor and I couldn't be happier. Cyberpunk plays over 60 fps with RTX no problem.
i'm rocking a i7 9700k, 32GB of RAM, and a RTX 3070. i built this system about 5 years ago or so. it's still a good system with plenty of life in it, but it is starting to show it's age.
i'm planning to do a new build next year, maybe around income tax time. this system will likely either go to my wife, or my youngest son. no reason to pull apart a good, balanced, and running system.
it's also easier to justify a new build when someone else is getting a upgrade in the form of my old system.
I’ve never had a game where I felt like I had to upgrade.
Yah I’m sure if I cared about like really really high frame rates and such it’d be limiting but I can seemingly run most things at 1440 with ballpark 60 fps without too much trouble. Some games I may have to tone back the graphics a tad.
I'm on a 3700X with a 3060TI and RX570 and I Linda just have it set up exactly how I want it.
The 3060TI is set to 200w from 220w and the 570 set to 100w from 200w and I use the 570 for display outs, low graphical demand tasks, and Lossless Scaling FG if I need it. The 3060TI is for the more demanding tasks and CUDA.
My main monitor is 1080p 165hz adaptive sync, and if I can't hit 165 FPS I just frame lock to 80 FPS and 2x the frames if I don't care about it feeling perfect. I don't play shooters or competitive multiplayer games that care too much about latency, so it works for me.
Perhaps Lossless Scaling and an old GPU can help you squeez out another few years like me? It may be worth a shot!
I Run BF6 on my 5900x with a 3080FE 64GB RAM on 100-140 FPS. Most titles I get in 2560x1080 hover around 60-90 FPS. That is more than enough for the next 2 years until the Chip Shortage has resolved a bit
If I was on AM4, I'd stay on it for the time being. AM4 X3D chips have similar gaming performance to cheaper AM5 chips like R5 7600, and that is enough to run every modern game at a decent frame rate. If you have a midrange GPU or below, your performance will be limited mostly by the GPU.
Same goes for S1700 with DDR4, as long as you have something like a 12600K and above, upgrading to AM5 with DDR5 isn't going to make a huge difference.
Of course it's still good - a newer gen being out doesn't mean that older hardware is obsolete. I've got a 3700x from well over 5-6 years ago and it's still going strong, haven't had a bottleneck till this day. Will probably stay on AM4 until I'm genuinely struggling with a game I like or when AM6 comes out and I get a nice sale. Either way, I anticipate I get around 10 years out of this system.
That being said I probably wouldn't build a system today using previous gen hardware as I would want to future proof again. It just makes sense when you're dropping +$2k on a PC.
But if I have a previous gen system and want to upgrade parts, of course yes. It's cheaper to upgrade 1 part for a few hundred then buy a new system for a few thousand.
I'm currently rocking the 5600x with a 9070 OC and 32gb of DDR4 3600. I have no complaints. Would love to have an x3d, but not at the prices they are selling for. It'd be nice of AMD to start producing the 5x00 x3d chips for the duration of this DDR5 shortage.
it is only sad because they stomped their x3d production. So I just had to go eith the normal 5800x - but honestly: for 150€ top tier chip for losing maybe 5% in 4k
You should be fine trying to repaste. You just need to find a tutorial on how to safely take off the cooling fans part. I used to do this a lot when I would install a water cooling block to my GPU. It just takes a little patience. Most likely it’s a few screws and maybe a cable or two to disconnect. Hopefully a repaste will bring you lower temps. Good luck. 👍
My 5800x3D is ready for next gen GPU and maybe one after that. So is my SSD. AM4 got to be cheapest platform ever regarding longetivity and upgrade options.
Unfortunately the last hoorah for the AM4 X3D chips was toward the beginning of 2025. It’s not really worth the money to upgrade to any other non-X3D chips on AM4 either.
Yo, I've been using a Ryzen 7 5800X3D for 3 years now. I have still to see it struggle with anything, this thing is a beast.
Sure, a 7800X3D is somewhat better, and a 9800X3D even a bit better than that one. But I'm totally sure I will be able to comfortably skip the whole AM5 and not upgrade until AM6 without missing having even more performance.
Ideally, you would go with AM5 for a new rig or a full upgrade, but considering prices, especially for RAM... yeah, AM4 is not a bad option at all.
Shame they aren’t producing anymore AM4 x3d cpus. That would have been the only CPU worth upgrading to from my 5600x when it comes to gaming.
I’m so pissed I get fucked by timing at every point.
I had to build a new pc during the height of the pandemic supply chain shortages / crypto craze. Missed the last sales of the 5700x3d, thought about upgrading my 16 gb RAM right after the AI explosion hit, then my data grave harddrive started to fail and I had to buy the same model used for 20€ more than I payed brand new back in 2023.
It's still good but I see from benchmarks that I have loads of performance reserves that I can't utilize without upgrading to the 9800X3D
I'm still waiting for the Ryzen X and then I plan to buy used. No way I'm trying to figure out what memory works on DDR5. I tried to help a friend with his new AM5 machine booting slower than my Windows 7 laptop from 2011... Way too complicated. I'm used to enable DOCP on my AM4. Done. A little automated undervolting (that part might be easier on AM5; enabling the Eco mode works on non-Windows OS)
5700x, 16gb ddr and a 6700xt and I'm playing BF6 fluently with the default graphics. I'm not a graphics freak so if the game looks good and js fluent, I'm happy. I wanted to upgrade at some point but seeing the ram prices, I think I'll wait lol
Wasn't expecting that. XDA's fall has been a sad one, it was the #1 forum for custom mobile development for years and years.
Now it's clickbait trash. You don't expect that to be actually correct.
Anyway, yes, AM4 is still a valid low-end platform. If you can get an X3D CPU, you can even keep up with the mid-range of AM5. For productivity, there's still not much out there which can keep up with a 5950X or 5900XT - You just don't want these for games.
Putting AM4 into historical context, the Zen 3 generation (5000 series) were released just as Intel's 10th gen was maturing and largely won. Intel's 11th gen was slower than 10th in most cases, so that also lost. It wasn't until 12th gen where Intel was able to match AM4's finest.... Then X3D dropped and that was that.
Even Ryzen 2000/3000 and Intel 10th gen are still mostly fine for modern games, especially if you're not running a top end GPU... which, statistically, most people aren't.
It would be if AMD still made their top CPUs for it. But they got progressively more "salvage SKU" as time went on. Still, solid choice for a budget build. Especially if you have DDR4 laying around and want to avoid buying memory right now (which you probably do).
More than enough. The most demanding (unoptimized) game I know is tarkov and I'm ram limited by my 16gb while using a 5700x3d. It still gets more than playable frame rates (~140) and probably even more when I decide to run 32gb ddr4. I haven't had a game where my cpu was the issue I couldn't hit frames.
The only thing it lacks for me is AVX-512 support that would allow RPCS3 performance to skyrocket. I've considered upgrade options just because of that.
But I'll probably try and keep my 5800X3D until memory prices return to normal.
I got super lucky and built my pc in January with a 9950x3d, 5090, 64 DDR5 6400 ram. But yeah it’s too expensive now unless you don’t care spending 4x the norm for ram.
I've had to just now replace an 8700k and will replace another 8086K (anniversary select bin 8700K) in the next year. They have run out of capacity to run these modern shit optimized games alongside my other components.
AM4 is still a great platform but it does have a ceiling to how much you can get out of it. This will be the case till after AM6. At that point all these AI companies (if they're still around) will dump the DDR5 RAM in favor of DDR6. That will be the best time to upgrade to AM5.
depends on usercase. if it's more energy-efficient it's better for all of us to upgrade. new platform can bring 50% more depending case. need pci 5.0? need ddr5 ? need more powerhorse ?
also am4 have a) various scheduling issues fixed only by migrate to new platform b)suddenly unpatched vulnerabilities on old cpus. if they suddenly stop patching cpu flaws will leave market exposed.
what's best on 9950/x3d is that finally usuable at 100% cpu non-lagging.
if you just game, then just game and don't upgrade, atleast not today if means overspending 5x prices.
Absolutely yes. Running a 5700x3d and 64gb of fast RAM, able to get ~70fps on cyberpunk with mods on 1440p on Linux.
Yeah, I'm not worried about replacing my system for at least 3 more years short of a failure, but honestly with how graphics have been tapering off for levels of realism and performance? I could probably run this till it blows up just fine.
If anything, I might replace the PSU every few years to ensure the power is good for a long time.
I honestly think a lot of these post are product placement. Most people don't have $2,000 to drop on a single part. I make a pretty good living and I could if I wanted, yet I see no point. My 3080 is still doing its job well. There are people with much less capable cards and cpu's able to handle their computer business also.
I went from a 2700x to a 5700x and just upgraded from a 1070ti to a 5070 ti and have no issues playing everything I want at 4K. Sure, I've got a 60fps monitor but that's fine for what I want to play so this will last me till AM6.
Am5 has higher memory clock speed limits, double the pcie bandwidth with 5.0 and m.2 PCI speed lanes are doubled. Now the selling point for AM5 over AM4 was the memory capacity was only raised from 128gb to 192gb which is a fucking joke.
Before AI my goal was to get on DDR5, because I remember when DDR3 was useless compared to DDR4 however like everyone said the costs of AM4 makes AM5 look like a scam right now.
Now looking back at the history it appears that the CPU improvements over the last 5 years has plateaued for negligible improvements cost per dollar I picked up the workstation version of Ryzen 9 for 260 bucks(5950x) brand new, while just a few years ago it was 800 dollars. I recall the jump from DDR3 to DDR4 was a night and day difference but to this difference you’ll be paying a solid 5-8k compared to a 2k setup that’s good for another 5 years on AM4. The only caveat is that you’re at the mercy of those who continue to support the platform.
So I currently have an order in for DDR5 32GB CL36 but its not been dispatched yet so I can still cancel. I was planning on upgrading to a 9800X3D and 9070XT.
My current system is 3600X and 5070XT. 16GB DDR4.
Reading through this thread it seems like it might be a better idea to cancel the RAM and get a 5900X? There's no 5700X3D or 5800X3D available where I live anymore unfortunately. The 9070XT has already arrived so I'm locked in on that. I'll have to get a new PSU for that regardless.
Absolutely. I'm still rocking my 5600, 32GB ram and 6700xt. It can still run games in 2k in mid-high without FG. It might survive with me till the AM6, dunno
Yes. Just because the latest tech is objectively better, it doesnt mean other stuff is "obsolete" or "outdated". GPUs are still doing the bulk of the work for most games. Its all about your expectations and what performance you want. 1080p is still fine for most people
I got a 5600x3d and a 6700xt running steamOS. This combo is absolutely perfect to have hooked up to the TV. I can play 4K and not need to worry about frame rate because the TV only runs at 60 anyway. My newer 7 7700x/ 9070xt build runs great as well, but am4 is still a great platform and IS good enough to run your games.
I have a 5800X3d paired with a 4090, if anything it holds the GPU back from a technical standpoint but my performance overall is absolutely brilliant and they're still developing CPUs for AM4 last time I checked. It's the socket that won't die.
I play at 1080p-1440p and my 7 5700X absolutely rocks, I can play titles such as bf6, Helldivers 2 and many others at max settings with my rtx5060ti while also watching yt on a second monitor and it’s just chilling at 80% usage, I’m yet to actually max it out and I fully intend on staying on AM4 till AM6 comes out, depending on when that is I’ll probably buy a 5800x3d sooner rather than later
AM4 is still a good platform for years to come. My Ryzen 5900x + RX 7800XT is still a beast in performance. I got it during the start of the year no regrets whats so ever.
Yeah man. 5600x here and I see no bottleneck in any of my use cases. I'll keep it until I genuinely see it limiting me and only then will I upgrade. Tech has come a long way, being 1-2 generations back is no longer a huge difference from having the current chips for most people.
Yeah it is, Im on a 3600 still and it rocks.....and my laptop has a 7530U, essentially a 5600G, also still rocks. Vega 7 is a bit anemic, but with maybe 25W between CPU and GPU it hardly matters. Im just glad some modicum of gaming performance comes out of this thing.
Zen 2 is really in a good place still, just because it doesnt have the same teething problems Zen and Zen+ had before it, I had a 2600X before the 3600 and in a direct comparison (they even clock the same) you can feel a slight difference in stutters. Whether thats the memory controller or the infinity fabric between the CCDs or something else, no idea.
Im still eyeing a 5000 series upgrade for my PC, whether itll be a 5800XT or 5700X3D depends on whatll be available. 4.2 Ghz just isnt all that much and 6 cores arent all that many, so some games have room for improvement. But with 5000 series being essentially 7000 on AM4, and 9000 being not much of a performance upgrade over 7000 I dont see 5000 dying any time soon.
Ps5 games are built around a lower clocked, 8 core amd zen2 cpu. AM4 maxes out at zen3 which was a significant upgrade from zen2 even without x3d.
Am4 is still good enough.
It’s only when looked at relatively to something like a 9800x3d that it looks like its not good enough because it’s “40%” slower than it, but in reality we’re talking about 40% slower than 200fps which is still 120fps… which is more than good enough.
*40% was a random number used as an example. Not an actual comparison
The vast majority of end users, even gamers, didn't really need to upgrade unless they have a severe gaming habit/disassociation issue, and need the latest and greatest always.
AM4 is absolutely powerful, and DDR4 is absolutely the sane choice.
Good to go, honestly. My 5800x3d performs great, even nowadays. Of course the 7800x3d/9800x3d are faster, but there is a ridiculous amount of performance still on the table with AM4. My home server is on AM4 as well (3900x) and I don't see a reason to upgrade there, either.
I am still running my 5800x and I am still enjoying it. I built it 5 years ago. I am parting together an upgrade, taking advantage of deals I can find to keep it cheap. I got lucky and found a 32G kit of DDR5 for $40 on marketplace from someone who got impatient waiting for their RMAd ram. They bought a replacement before it came in and just wanted to get rid of it. It was the deciding factor on me starting my upgrade, without that, I would have just waited it out.
My 5900x is a fucking beast honestly. One of the best purchases I’ve ever made computer component wise. Run it with a 3080ti and my PC is plenty powerful
I have a 9070xt paired with a 5800x that struggles with games like Call of Duty. The x3D variants are becoming increasingly rare, and the 5800x3d is no longer in production, making the ones that are available very expensive. RAM prices also make switching platforms impractical. I feel stuck on AM4 until something extraordinary happens.
Yeah I can tell a difference but it’s still great. Hell, I don’t think I’d tell a difference WHEN I upgraded, but damn I really did. I upgraded to am5 when I felt prices would go insane. Went from a 3950x to 9950x and wowza. Just speedy. Also most of the features on the mobo that I would search for and turn on are on by default like for hypervisor vms and secure boot. But dang this cpu is crazy and my old one feels more chugged now but ONLY by comparison. Both are still great.
I'm still running a 2700x and I don't really have any issues running new games at 1440p. I can upgrade to a 5600 and I know I won't really have to worry about performance for a while. Hell even a 5500 is $75 and
If I were building a new build today then I would probably consider AM5 because I'd rather have a long term upgrade path, but you pay a premium for that. If you're on a strict budget then AM4 still performs very well and of course there's a bunch of used hardware out there as well.
I don't agree with the specific CPUs the article recommends (e.g. the 8700K is probably not worth it at this point, and not mentioning the X3D CPUs seems strange), but yeah, you can still build a very capable AM4 rig
It is, but even with ram prices the way they are, unless you're looking for a sub-$1k build, I wouldn't go with a dead platform. Just build the cheapest AM5 system you can, get a 16gb kit of ddr5 and you'll have upgradability for a few years at least. Unless you're ONLY concerned with gaming, then AM4 or even Intel 12th gen can get you where you want to be. This is all dependent on resolution, of course. For 4k gaming I wouldn't think about anything but AM5, considering X3D chips are already pretty expensive and you can get decent open-box deals for a 7600X if you're near a Micro Center. That and reusing a few parts is what saved my build budget.
It was never not good. Just wasnt worth building new over am5 for the price till ram prices changed. Only one on am5 in my house is the wife cus i got here a deal on a 7600x, ram, mobo combo for $300. I have a 5800x3d and daughter 5700x.
7700x / 3060rtx / 32G
Not quite highest settings but still runs everything decent... as long as it isn't UE5 based.
I've got a 9060XT on order to play with SteamOS on it as well. Will be the only upgrade in the foreseeable future.
At 1440p with my 5800X3D there's only one, maybe two games I've played recently where I've been been capped by my CPU performance in some fashion, and those were only temporary. Still runs everything else excellently without breaking a sweat
Xbox Series and PS5 use Zen 2 so that basically the standard for modern games. AM4 is still perfectly capable especially with the later Zen 3 X3D CPUs rivaling the lower end Zen 4 and Zen 5 parts.
Got my 5800x3d about a year ago for $225. It was an INCREDIBLE deal. At that point, these were already basically unfindable. I had actually already spent $250 for a 5700x3d, but I nabbed this one when I saw it on Marketplace and managed to return the 5700x3d luckily.
Plus, I didn't have to replace my entire motherboard and memory, so I saved a crazy amount of money.
I paired the 5800x3d with a 9070xt, and I am sitting pretty right now. Don't plan to upgrade for at least four years.
I'm still running a 5800X3D and I have no intention of upgrading anytime soon. AM4 is a strong platform and good thing, too, with the price of an AM5 system right now.
Yep. Still strong. Still get 75+fps on 1080p. (all I need) at med~high settings. Don't need next Gen and every news piece about pc market convinces me more to skip and wait for the next gen if I ever have to upgrade
Youre looking at this wrong. is your current rig working at an acceptable speed and reliability for your needs? if yes, dont bother to upgrade. the only people who constantly upgrade to latest and greatest hardware are the edge case enthusiast and guys for whom money doesnt matter. you are not either of them if you are asking this question.
It will be fine for a while yet. Pretty much for anything gaming you really won't need to worry about upgrading until next gen consoles. No game coming out is going to really push much harder until next gen consoles arrive. That gives you until holiday 2027 or early 2028 for the most part, after 2028 is where your going to see a lot of games struggling. The thing is at that point even AM5 builds will likely struggle, that is just the way it happens with gaming is you get these huge jumps based around console releases.
For business and productivity it really depends but your likely going to be fine for a long while on that front as long as your computer will support windows 11. Where it gets tricky is some of the early or really low end AM4 motherboards that didn't support things like TPM or secure boot.
It is, although I did upgraded the cpu for windows 11, I also use the pc for work. Bought the Ryzen 7 5700X. It was on sale so I manage to get 2 more cores for the price of the 5600x.
It just depends if you’re a newer tech person or happy with your current performance person, I love new tech, seeing what it can do, I’m using a 9950x3d and will upgrade to the AM6 platform and newest performance chip when it’s available, it’s just someone’s preference..
'Latest and greatest' is exactly that. The latest stuff is the greatest stuff, but that doesn't automatically make everything that came before obsolete or defacto bad.
There will be tons of people in this thread on AM4, even from a few years ago (think zen 2) that will report their PC is great for their use.
And that's exactly the point of building a PC.
If you want or need better hardware, you can, but you are also free to buy second hand, build with last gen etc
Yes it's still good, as is Intel 12gen.
Zen3 (and especially x3D) still provides playable framerates for the vast majority of games and its good enough for productivity.
Slower than latest gen doesn't mean useless.
I believe my 5700X3D will last me till AM6 platform release
Easily. My 5800x3D can crank out over 100fps in the newest titles still.
5800x3D's are great chips.
Switched from 5800x to 5800x3d (used $350) and instantly gained 20% performance and my 1% lows faded into a distant memory. Gave my GTX 1070 more life until I found a used 3080ti.
3700X in the house! Honestly just about everything still runs great.
Saaame lol
I'll just have to make do with what I have
Checks 5800x3d prices yep, I’m good too.
My 1070 is still going strong in my son's pc. Love that thing!
Go damn it.
I didn't learn this until after they were impossible to find.
It's really the only upgrade I can make.
Got my 5800x3d about a year ago for $225. It was an INCREDIBLE deal. At that point, these were already basically unfindable. I had actually already spent $250 for a 5700x3d, but I nabbed this one when I saw it on Marketplace and managed to return the 5700x3d luckily.
Legendary. Same tier as my old i5-2500K when that came out. Lasted many years. I expect my 5800X3D to last at least until AM6. It’s been a rock star playing Microsoft Flight Simulator, a notoriously CPU-hungry beast.
Most games are limited by the gpu. Not the cpu
My 5700X RX6800 32gb DDR4 still going strong, I will probably upgrade after AM6 is well settled
My man! My exact build. Still rocking it no problem.
Unless you're playing high fps CS2 competitively at 1080p 5700x3d is great for 1440p or 4k.
Even in CS2 the 5700X3D performs really well. I play at a reasonably high level, and my average fps is somewhere around 300-350, which I find to be more than sufficient.
Yup. I have a 4090 and play in 4K so I’m GPU bound anyways
Hell my 5700x and 9060 pairing is kicking ass
just to put it into numbers: with this setup I'm gaming on 1440p 144Hz. Every modern title runs above 100 fps on high or better settings. In some of them I can even turn on DLAA, there's so much headroom.
Except UE5 slop of course, but those games run like shit even on a 5090D.
I'm doing that with an R5 3600 and 6800XT. This subreddit is -understandably- skewed towards showing off the most luxurious builds, but people seem to forget that you don't need high-end hardware to have a lot of fun.
My gf has a i7 10700f and a rtx3070 and at 1440p ultrawide, it's no different from my rig, a r7 5700x3d and a 5070ti in 90% of games, even with the "insufficient" vram, it's still very much capable of all the fun
A 5600x pair with 5080 will get you over 100fps in Battlefield 6 1440p ultra. There's no need to upgrade if you just want to play recent games at ultra 1440p. Now if you want to match your monitor refresh rate, then that's another story.
DDR4, i7 12700, 4070s. Battlefield runs great for me
I was using a i7 2600k up until last year people really seem to get caught up in the age of something when a lot of components are still very useable.
2600k is pushing it in terms of life and being up to par but it just shows how long you can use things with modern games still.
Hell I wager that CPUs will last years more than GPUs
Even a 8700k would work fine today. I see people can play BF6 at 60fps with a 4790k.
12th gen doesn’t eat itself either.
How would you say 11th gen holds up? I just ordered a used kit that contains a 11900KF + Z490 Gaming X + 16gb DDR4 for 225 Euros. Seemed like a very decent deal but now I'm getting worried that it might bottleneck my (also used) RTX 4070 I ordered separately.
Bottlenecks are mostly myth. Ignore the nonsense bottleneck calculators and just tweak your game settings until you get an experience you enjoy.
11th gen is fine... well, it was laughed at at launch because the 10c 20t 10900k outperformed the 8c 16t 11900k in a lot of situations but it still works. Can't compete with the newest gen budget cpus unlike Zen3x3D but it's fine.
Basically anything from 2018 onwards is still viable for a gaming focused PC, if you want to play the latest and greatest broken performance games you might need something more in a couple of years.
If it works and you can play the games you enjoy it's good enough.
I have a 12900k. I'm not upgrading anytime soon. Only Cyberpunk gives me a cpu Bottleneck rarely. No other game I have yet to play needs more cpu than what I have.
Zen3 with x3d?
My 3700x has found a second life in an htpc gaming pc and can handle 4k 60 just fine (with a 6700xt using balanced upscaling).
It actually makes me feel stupid for getting a 7800x3d with a 4080S: zen2 is still fine af.
Can use intel 14th gen with DDR4 as well.
RX6800 + 5700X3D running well at 3440x1440
Especially if you have a higher end AM4 chip, the cost-performance proposition to upgrade to AM5 is nonexistent
What about Intel 10th gen?
i just love people here with these terms when most of the X3D can easily run games on 100fps lmao
My 5950x will last me many years to come
Yeah It's still good. I have 32GB of DDR4 and was thinking of just swapping the cpu up to a 5900XT and skipping a generation and going straight to AM6 DDR6
Same, I got really fast 32gb ram and a x3d. Might change the gpu in the coming years (5750xt) but with current ram prices it not worth going for am5. I can still play everything with pretty good settings in 1440p
This is what I did. I had a 4070 Ti Super that i got a couple years ago and instead of keeping it and going AM5, i got a 4090 a couple months ago instead.
Meanwhile I have clueless friends that went through 2, 3 setups and thousands of dollars in a single year.
Glad I'm not alone in this thinking. I got the 5950x at the beginning of the year thinking that I would skip AM5 completely.
Picked up the same CPU on sale last year, there's really no reason to upgrade unless I want cutting edge. It's an excellent chip
I've done exactly this, from a R5 3600 + 16GB DDR4
I got 64GB of DDR4 about a month ago for less than £100 and the CPU for £200. Intending to swap my current 2070 with a 9070/9070XT/5070Ti depending on budget which will result in my PC serving my use case for years to come. Hopefully by then RAM prices will fall
I've had my 5950x since 2020, I don't think it's going anywhere anytime soon.
Similar to what I did, went from 8GB DDR3 to 32GB DDR5.
I am in the same boat. But im on a x570 platform, and ive had USB issues. I have tried updating drivers, but it hasn't made a difference. I need to upgrade from my 3600, but im thinking about downgrading my mobo. Just worried about putting my self into the stone ages just to run a x3d
Hope my 5600x can last me for next 4 years or however long until the ram shortage is over snd prices back to normal.
With 1080p, at most you might downgrade some graphics from ultra to v.high.
Some ultra settings arent even worth it. Games have those and you change to v. high and get like 50% more fps and the visuals basically stay the same.
Oh nice perfect. I do game at 1080p. Very high is still great. And its been s while since I played a brand new demanding game. I think my newest released game might be jedi fallen order. But I did try the warhammer 40k space marine 2 demo so I guess that would be newest game. I didn't pay attention to thr settings but it ran really good. Didnt notice any lag at all. Warhammer 40k total war im definitely looking forward to and its going to be cpu intensive. But im okay with graphics hit. I noticed in newer games low settings still looks decent compared to older games where low settings just completely erased all the details.
With recent optimizations, warhammer 3 uses the gpu more than the cpu. So you can assume that the gpu will do the heavy lifting for total war wh 40k. Just keep an eye out for used 5700x3ds below 200$ and snag them even if you go into debt. /j
so really no lose since Ultra is almost hard to tell + they could also use optimized gaming subreddit for perfect settings or a Digital Foundry video.
Dragged my feet collecting parts over about 4 years to build my first, cheap PC that I finally finished this year. 5600x with an Arc A750. ARC runs at 70 fps on 1080 Ultra and CoD at about 110 fps 1440, both with FSR. I wasn’t expecting much as I was well aware of what I built and with what, but I’m more than content.
I still run a 5900x. So not even an X3D CPU on the AM4 platform, and it works absolutely fine.
I think people get too caught up in needing to have the latest and greatest.
As a somewhat hypocrite, I have a 4090FE, so that’s probably helping a bit, but still, it’s previous gen.
I’ll be staying on AM4 as long as I possibly can.
Ha, I stay a generation or two behind, because I don't care. I just "upgraded" last week from a 1060 3gb, 8 gigs ram, and a Ryzen 7 2700X to a 3060ti, 32gig ram, and a Ryzen 7 5800xt. Bought it all used with the exception of the processor and I couldn't be happier. Cyberpunk plays over 60 fps with RTX no problem.
definitely. people need to get over their FOMO.
i'm rocking a i7 9700k, 32GB of RAM, and a RTX 3070. i built this system about 5 years ago or so. it's still a good system with plenty of life in it, but it is starting to show it's age.
i'm planning to do a new build next year, maybe around income tax time. this system will likely either go to my wife, or my youngest son. no reason to pull apart a good, balanced, and running system.
it's also easier to justify a new build when someone else is getting a upgrade in the form of my old system.
I’m on a 3600. Honestly it’s fine.
I’ve never had a game where I felt like I had to upgrade.
Yah I’m sure if I cared about like really really high frame rates and such it’d be limiting but I can seemingly run most things at 1440 with ballpark 60 fps without too much trouble. Some games I may have to tone back the graphics a tad.
I'm on a 3700X with a 3060TI and RX570 and I Linda just have it set up exactly how I want it.
The 3060TI is set to 200w from 220w and the 570 set to 100w from 200w and I use the 570 for display outs, low graphical demand tasks, and Lossless Scaling FG if I need it. The 3060TI is for the more demanding tasks and CUDA.
My main monitor is 1080p 165hz adaptive sync, and if I can't hit 165 FPS I just frame lock to 80 FPS and 2x the frames if I don't care about it feeling perfect. I don't play shooters or competitive multiplayer games that care too much about latency, so it works for me.
Perhaps Lossless Scaling and an old GPU can help you squeez out another few years like me? It may be worth a shot!
I Run BF6 on my 5900x with a 3080FE 64GB RAM on 100-140 FPS. Most titles I get in 2560x1080 hover around 60-90 FPS. That is more than enough for the next 2 years until the Chip Shortage has resolved a bit
I too still have a 5900x and I have 5090FE. I know it’s not the smartest but with ram prices I’m keeping this cpu
Using a 5800x3d…. It’s baller. Granted I’m coming from a 7700k but the 5800x3d fucking slaps!
Short answer, yes it’s still good.
This just in: water is wet. More at 11.
yes I'm using 5800x3d + 9070xt. upgrading when am6 drops
If I was on AM4, I'd stay on it for the time being. AM4 X3D chips have similar gaming performance to cheaper AM5 chips like R5 7600, and that is enough to run every modern game at a decent frame rate. If you have a midrange GPU or below, your performance will be limited mostly by the GPU.
Same goes for S1700 with DDR4, as long as you have something like a 12600K and above, upgrading to AM5 with DDR5 isn't going to make a huge difference.
Of course it's still good - a newer gen being out doesn't mean that older hardware is obsolete. I've got a 3700x from well over 5-6 years ago and it's still going strong, haven't had a bottleneck till this day. Will probably stay on AM4 until I'm genuinely struggling with a game I like or when AM6 comes out and I get a nice sale. Either way, I anticipate I get around 10 years out of this system.
That being said I probably wouldn't build a system today using previous gen hardware as I would want to future proof again. It just makes sense when you're dropping +$2k on a PC.
But if I have a previous gen system and want to upgrade parts, of course yes. It's cheaper to upgrade 1 part for a few hundred then buy a new system for a few thousand.
I can't see myself changing my 5800x3d anytime soon. What's crazy is that it's running flawlessly on a B350 board from 2017.
honestly at 4k, a 5700/5800x3d won't bottleneck a 5090 even.
AM4 gang until it dies!
Well if you build a $2K AM4 machine, you have a respectable gaming setup.
If you build $2K AM5 machine, you have a barebones office box with a single stick of RAM.
I'm currently rocking the 5600x with a 9070 OC and 32gb of DDR4 3600. I have no complaints. Would love to have an x3d, but not at the prices they are selling for. It'd be nice of AMD to start producing the 5x00 x3d chips for the duration of this DDR5 shortage.
Yes. People don't need the latest and greatest.
it is only sad because they stomped their x3d production. So I just had to go eith the normal 5800x - but honestly: for 150€ top tier chip for losing maybe 5% in 4k
If you don't own a 5090, an 5700x3d won't bottleneck you in 99% of the cases
i downgraded from a 5800x to a 5700x. 32gb ddr4 ram, 8gb 3060ti.
this system plays everything fine at 1440p medium settings.
i will be upgrading in 3-5 whatever years when am6 or the equivalent from intel is out.
just yesterday i noticed that my gpu hotspot temperature is 99c.
i would really like to repaste, but with the current gpu prices i would rather not risk breaking the gpu...
You should be fine trying to repaste. You just need to find a tutorial on how to safely take off the cooling fans part. I used to do this a lot when I would install a water cooling block to my GPU. It just takes a little patience. Most likely it’s a few screws and maybe a cable or two to disconnect. Hopefully a repaste will bring you lower temps. Good luck. 👍
My 5800x3D is ready for next gen GPU and maybe one after that. So is my SSD. AM4 got to be cheapest platform ever regarding longetivity and upgrade options.
5800X3D and 5700X3D easily top tier gaming CPU for another 5 years.
They may also make XT chips. Personally I think the X3D run too hot. I preferred my 5600X.
They fixed the problem with the 9800X3D.
AM4 is still very much good. The GPU is what makes the biggest difference anyway
What do you define as to hot? My 5800x3d runs at around 80 under load and around 40-50 idle.
Ak620 digital aircooler
My 5800x3d runs in the 60/70s range while gaming. Air cooled. I'm not real worried and always runs hot from what I can tell.
I do not have any issue with temps on my 5800x3d. Running with Arctic Freezer II 360 + undervolted. Mostly below 60° C.
At 4k the 5800x3d is even longer viable (less cpu load).
If anyone can help me: I have a 5600x and I’m wondering if it’s worth the upgrade to 5800x3d? I have a 7900xtx
I mostly play at 1440p but I play single player games at 4k (sometimes upscalled)
At current X3D prices absolutely not.
Unfortunately the last hoorah for the AM4 X3D chips was toward the beginning of 2025. It’s not really worth the money to upgrade to any other non-X3D chips on AM4 either.
Yes. Of course it’s going to be.
My setup (thank goodness I upgraded to 32gb a year ago) was going to last me 3-5 more years anyway. This just concretes that.
Also I don't understand what 'Is AM4 still good' is all about... We literally just got another round of AM4 chips last year...
DDR4 prices are also crazy.
I’m still running a R9 3900X + RX 6800 XT and still pull over 60+ fps @ 1440p consistently. I think I will be able to hold out until AM6.
Life forces me to downgrade from a 6950xt to a vega56 . Thankfully 90% of the games I get a chance to play anymore I barely notice....
Yes
Yo, I've been using a Ryzen 7 5800X3D for 3 years now. I have still to see it struggle with anything, this thing is a beast.
Sure, a 7800X3D is somewhat better, and a 9800X3D even a bit better than that one. But I'm totally sure I will be able to comfortably skip the whole AM5 and not upgrade until AM6 without missing having even more performance.
Ideally, you would go with AM5 for a new rig or a full upgrade, but considering prices, especially for RAM... yeah, AM4 is not a bad option at all.
Shame they aren’t producing anymore AM4 x3d cpus. That would have been the only CPU worth upgrading to from my 5600x when it comes to gaming.
I’m so pissed I get fucked by timing at every point.
I had to build a new pc during the height of the pandemic supply chain shortages / crypto craze. Missed the last sales of the 5700x3d, thought about upgrading my 16 gb RAM right after the AI explosion hit, then my data grave harddrive started to fail and I had to buy the same model used for 20€ more than I payed brand new back in 2023.
Ill stay with my 4070 super and ryzen 5 5600 to play in 4k until they release AM6
I mean ... why wouldnt it be? just cuz its not the current gen doesnt mean its useless
It's still good but I see from benchmarks that I have loads of performance reserves that I can't utilize without upgrading to the 9800X3D
I'm still waiting for the Ryzen X and then I plan to buy used. No way I'm trying to figure out what memory works on DDR5. I tried to help a friend with his new AM5 machine booting slower than my Windows 7 laptop from 2011... Way too complicated. I'm used to enable DOCP on my AM4. Done. A little automated undervolting (that part might be easier on AM5; enabling the Eco mode works on non-Windows OS)
Zen 3 has aged well. Still keeping it strong, PCIe 4.0 platform and X3D chips are holding it down.
5700x, 16gb ddr and a 6700xt and I'm playing BF6 fluently with the default graphics. I'm not a graphics freak so if the game looks good and js fluent, I'm happy. I wanted to upgrade at some point but seeing the ram prices, I think I'll wait lol
Wasn't expecting that. XDA's fall has been a sad one, it was the #1 forum for custom mobile development for years and years.
Now it's clickbait trash. You don't expect that to be actually correct.
Anyway, yes, AM4 is still a valid low-end platform. If you can get an X3D CPU, you can even keep up with the mid-range of AM5. For productivity, there's still not much out there which can keep up with a 5950X or 5900XT - You just don't want these for games.
Putting AM4 into historical context, the Zen 3 generation (5000 series) were released just as Intel's 10th gen was maturing and largely won. Intel's 11th gen was slower than 10th in most cases, so that also lost. It wasn't until 12th gen where Intel was able to match AM4's finest.... Then X3D dropped and that was that.
The 5800x3d is the 1080ti of CPU's really.
I've got a 5800x3d and 64GB of DDR4, and I play on 4k with my 4090.
So yeah, I think it's pretty good lol
Intel 12th Gen is still better.
Battlefield recommends a 3700x. What do you think? Its always about use case anyway.
Even Ryzen 2000/3000 and Intel 10th gen are still mostly fine for modern games, especially if you're not running a top end GPU... which, statistically, most people aren't.
It would be if AMD still made their top CPUs for it. But they got progressively more "salvage SKU" as time went on. Still, solid choice for a budget build. Especially if you have DDR4 laying around and want to avoid buying memory right now (which you probably do).
Yes what they say is true am4 will be a bang for the buck option for many years to come if you are not chasing fps.
Yes. You don't always need the newest hardware.
AM4 still offers good performance, and if you're not a gamer the value for money is insane.
More than enough. The most demanding (unoptimized) game I know is tarkov and I'm ram limited by my 16gb while using a 5700x3d. It still gets more than playable frame rates (~140) and probably even more when I decide to run 32gb ddr4. I haven't had a game where my cpu was the issue I couldn't hit frames.
Yes
AM4 is perfectly fine.
The only thing it lacks for me is AVX-512 support that would allow RPCS3 performance to skyrocket. I've considered upgrade options just because of that.
But I'll probably try and keep my 5800X3D until memory prices return to normal.
Yes, its still is
I got super lucky and built my pc in January with a 9950x3d, 5090, 64 DDR5 6400 ram. But yeah it’s too expensive now unless you don’t care spending 4x the norm for ram.
I've had to just now replace an 8700k and will replace another 8086K (anniversary select bin 8700K) in the next year. They have run out of capacity to run these modern shit optimized games alongside my other components.
i have a ryzen 3600 and it's fine for what i do with it
my laptop has a 7th gen i5 and it's good enough for what i need it to do
my sister has an i5 4440 and it's great for what she needs
if you dont play the latest games, you dont necessarily need the latest hardware.
AM4 is still a great platform but it does have a ceiling to how much you can get out of it. This will be the case till after AM6. At that point all these AI companies (if they're still around) will dump the DDR5 RAM in favor of DDR6. That will be the best time to upgrade to AM5.
depends on usercase. if it's more energy-efficient it's better for all of us to upgrade. new platform can bring 50% more depending case. need pci 5.0? need ddr5 ? need more powerhorse ?
also am4 have a) various scheduling issues fixed only by migrate to new platform b)suddenly unpatched vulnerabilities on old cpus. if they suddenly stop patching cpu flaws will leave market exposed.
what's best on 9950/x3d is that finally usuable at 100% cpu non-lagging.
if you just game, then just game and don't upgrade, atleast not today if means overspending 5x prices.
Absolutely yes. Running a 5700x3d and 64gb of fast RAM, able to get ~70fps on cyberpunk with mods on 1440p on Linux.
Yeah, I'm not worried about replacing my system for at least 3 more years short of a failure, but honestly with how graphics have been tapering off for levels of realism and performance? I could probably run this till it blows up just fine.
If anything, I might replace the PSU every few years to ensure the power is good for a long time.
5800x with 4080 super and 32gb of ddr4 ram. I play on 1440p and have 100+ fps on all games I play.
I honestly think a lot of these post are product placement. Most people don't have $2,000 to drop on a single part. I make a pretty good living and I could if I wanted, yet I see no point. My 3080 is still doing its job well. There are people with much less capable cards and cpu's able to handle their computer business also.
My i7 2600k is still usable with nearly 200 fps in 2 competitive games I play... Am4 would give double of that, of course it's good
I just upgraded from a Ryzen 5 3600 to a 7 5800xt and noticed a significant increase in fps. I feel like I’m set for a few more years.
My current specs are: AMD 5800X3D 32 GB DDR4 AMD 6750X 12 GB
And it runs every game I throw at it under reasonable settings.
Was playing Hogwarts legacy last night with a rock solid 60 FPS at 1440p
I went from a 2700x to a 5700x and just upgraded from a 1070ti to a 5070 ti and have no issues playing everything I want at 4K. Sure, I've got a 60fps monitor but that's fine for what I want to play so this will last me till AM6.
Am5 has higher memory clock speed limits, double the pcie bandwidth with 5.0 and m.2 PCI speed lanes are doubled. Now the selling point for AM5 over AM4 was the memory capacity was only raised from 128gb to 192gb which is a fucking joke.
Before AI my goal was to get on DDR5, because I remember when DDR3 was useless compared to DDR4 however like everyone said the costs of AM4 makes AM5 look like a scam right now.
Now looking back at the history it appears that the CPU improvements over the last 5 years has plateaued for negligible improvements cost per dollar I picked up the workstation version of Ryzen 9 for 260 bucks(5950x) brand new, while just a few years ago it was 800 dollars. I recall the jump from DDR3 to DDR4 was a night and day difference but to this difference you’ll be paying a solid 5-8k compared to a 2k setup that’s good for another 5 years on AM4. The only caveat is that you’re at the mercy of those who continue to support the platform.
XDA developers are playing RuneScape and dwarf fortress
I have a 5080 paired with a 5600x and 16gb 3200 mhz ram and I was supposed to do an PC upgrade but decided to buy a oled ultrawide instead.
It's doing fine to the point that I still think that i can still hold on for the AM4 until next year to finish my PC upgrade.
Yes.
Just bought a 5080 to pair with a 5800x3d.
GPU is still the bottleneck at 1440p.
My criteria for "should I upgrade?" is always:
1.) Are new releases running so poorly that you're not enjoying them as much as you could?
2.) Do you have enough cash put away for an upgrade that the current market won't hurt you?
3.) The first two really cover it, so I guess I'll have a water with lemon.
intel apparently doesn't exist for people here lol
good for me because it is like quater of amd price here lol
So I currently have an order in for DDR5 32GB CL36 but its not been dispatched yet so I can still cancel. I was planning on upgrading to a 9800X3D and 9070XT.
My current system is 3600X and 5070XT. 16GB DDR4.
Reading through this thread it seems like it might be a better idea to cancel the RAM and get a 5900X? There's no 5700X3D or 5800X3D available where I live anymore unfortunately. The 9070XT has already arrived so I'm locked in on that. I'll have to get a new PSU for that regardless.
Thoughts?
Yes. Hell, I was on an 8400 with a 2060 until a few months ago. I was just starting to hit a wall.
The 14th generation of Intel still supports AM4 and Linux dont need that much RAM, that i need more then 32GB for gaming.
So yes, AM4 is still good and enough, for the everyday use.
Absolutely. I'm still rocking my 5600, 32GB ram and 6700xt. It can still run games in 2k in mid-high without FG. It might survive with me till the AM6, dunno
Waiting for AM6, DDR6 and Pcie 6.0 :)
Playing at 4k 144hz with my 4090 and Ryzen 5950x.
Obviously! Pimpin' my 5800X with PBO2, 5070Ti, and 3600mhz/CL16 on a 4K OLED. Works 💯
Yes. And it will be good for years to come, frankly.
Yes. Just because the latest tech is objectively better, it doesnt mean other stuff is "obsolete" or "outdated". GPUs are still doing the bulk of the work for most games. Its all about your expectations and what performance you want. 1080p is still fine for most people
I got a 5600x3d and a 6700xt running steamOS. This combo is absolutely perfect to have hooked up to the TV. I can play 4K and not need to worry about frame rate because the TV only runs at 60 anyway. My newer 7 7700x/ 9070xt build runs great as well, but am4 is still a great platform and IS good enough to run your games.
I’m on 5800X and believe it or not, it still does wonders with 5080 on 4K.
I have a 5800X3d paired with a 4090, if anything it holds the GPU back from a technical standpoint but my performance overall is absolutely brilliant and they're still developing CPUs for AM4 last time I checked. It's the socket that won't die.
Yes, I'll rock my 5700X3D until it dies if I can.
Nobody is ditching AM4 with the current RAM prices.
Started on a used 3950x back in 2020. Switched mobos last year and swapped to a used 5800x3d earlier this year. Im riding this cpu out till 2030.
My previous rig before the 3950x was a 2600k from 2011!
I play at 1080p-1440p and my 7 5700X absolutely rocks, I can play titles such as bf6, Helldivers 2 and many others at max settings with my rtx5060ti while also watching yt on a second monitor and it’s just chilling at 80% usage, I’m yet to actually max it out and I fully intend on staying on AM4 till AM6 comes out, depending on when that is I’ll probably buy a 5800x3d sooner rather than later
AM4 is still a good platform for years to come. My Ryzen 5900x + RX 7800XT is still a beast in performance. I got it during the start of the year no regrets whats so ever.
I'll be upgrading my am4 cou to a better one , I can't afford jumping to a newer gen cpu with these ram prices
yeah i think, for gaming 5800x3d can squeeze rtx 5080 on gpu bound titles on high resolution or enabling ray tracing
Yeah man. 5600x here and I see no bottleneck in any of my use cases. I'll keep it until I genuinely see it limiting me and only then will I upgrade. Tech has come a long way, being 1-2 generations back is no longer a huge difference from having the current chips for most people.
still running my 5600x
low power usage and less heat compared to am5
It's fine. I got a AM4 platform and my Pc is still gonna be viable for a few years, especially with the AI BS and Ram prices going up.
Yeah it is, Im on a 3600 still and it rocks.....and my laptop has a 7530U, essentially a 5600G, also still rocks. Vega 7 is a bit anemic, but with maybe 25W between CPU and GPU it hardly matters. Im just glad some modicum of gaming performance comes out of this thing.
Zen 2 is really in a good place still, just because it doesnt have the same teething problems Zen and Zen+ had before it, I had a 2600X before the 3600 and in a direct comparison (they even clock the same) you can feel a slight difference in stutters. Whether thats the memory controller or the infinity fabric between the CCDs or something else, no idea.
Im still eyeing a 5000 series upgrade for my PC, whether itll be a 5800XT or 5700X3D depends on whatll be available. 4.2 Ghz just isnt all that much and 6 cores arent all that many, so some games have room for improvement. But with 5000 series being essentially 7000 on AM4, and 9000 being not much of a performance upgrade over 7000 I dont see 5000 dying any time soon.
Ps5 games are built around a lower clocked, 8 core amd zen2 cpu. AM4 maxes out at zen3 which was a significant upgrade from zen2 even without x3d.
Am4 is still good enough.
It’s only when looked at relatively to something like a 9800x3d that it looks like its not good enough because it’s “40%” slower than it, but in reality we’re talking about 40% slower than 200fps which is still 120fps… which is more than good enough.
*40% was a random number used as an example. Not an actual comparison
I’m still using X370 motherboard from 2017 with a 5800X3D and 32GB RAM.
Works just fine for high refresh rate 4K gaming with RTX 5080.
I’m probably going to wait for DDR6 and AM6 unless this system breaks or becomes a major bottleneck.
The vast majority of end users, even gamers, didn't really need to upgrade unless they have a severe gaming habit/disassociation issue, and need the latest and greatest always.
AM4 is absolutely powerful, and DDR4 is absolutely the sane choice.
Yes it's still perfectly viable, I can run pretty much anything at high/very high settings no sweat
CPU haven't improved a ton over the years. The biggest differences are from 3D cache rather than faster clocks and such
Good to go, honestly. My 5800x3d performs great, even nowadays. Of course the 7800x3d/9800x3d are faster, but there is a ridiculous amount of performance still on the table with AM4. My home server is on AM4 as well (3900x) and I don't see a reason to upgrade there, either.
Running a 5800X with an RX 6900 XT at 3440x1440, most games are still well over 100FPS.
I am still running my 5800x and I am still enjoying it. I built it 5 years ago. I am parting together an upgrade, taking advantage of deals I can find to keep it cheap. I got lucky and found a 32G kit of DDR5 for $40 on marketplace from someone who got impatient waiting for their RMAd ram. They bought a replacement before it came in and just wanted to get rid of it. It was the deciding factor on me starting my upgrade, without that, I would have just waited it out.
Absolutely...put a 5800X3D on the family PC and it runs smooth AF on most games
I'm stuck on am4 until ram prices drop. I get over 100fps in all modern games.
Yes.
Yes. I'm using Ryzen 3rd gen on a PC I buyed in 2018.
Why wouldn't it be? What isn't is doing for you
Not planning on upgrading until AM6
I have a 5700x3d and 5070 ti. Upgraded from a 3070 ti. Im thinking the cpu is pretty good. Also, at 1440p and 4k, cpu isn’t the issue anymore.
My 5900x is a fucking beast honestly. One of the best purchases I’ve ever made computer component wise. Run it with a 3080ti and my PC is plenty powerful
I dont even understand how this is a real question.
Intel all the way back to 12th Gen (with the caveat of buyer beware on 13th/14th gen and make sure you update), and Zen 3 are still extremely viable.
Like... yeah, a 9800X3D might get you better frames but its not like a 5600X is going to get you 45 fps or some crap.
I’ve been running an amd 5950X for years and I love it. Recently got a 9070XT and the whole thing is still cooking with gas.
Depends why you want to upgrade.
I got am4 with 4K 240Hz and I don't feel a need to upgrade at all.
We might have different goals.
Literally on am4 myself and everything plays perfectly.
I have a 9070xt paired with a 5800x that struggles with games like Call of Duty. The x3D variants are becoming increasingly rare, and the 5800x3d is no longer in production, making the ones that are available very expensive. RAM prices also make switching platforms impractical. I feel stuck on AM4 until something extraordinary happens.
Thoughts on what. You've said almost nothing!
No reason needed to upgrade, AM5 isn’t ground breaking in real world uses. AM4 aged like fine wine.
I’m using my 5900x with a 5080 at 1440p get 120fps on high/ultra on any game.
I’m still running my ryzen 5700X3D on my 2017 Asrock am4 board, 32GB RAM@3600 and a 7900xt.
No problems running my games at 1440p, high settings and getting 150-240fps on my 240hz screen.
I also disable cancers like motion blur, film grain, chromatic abberartion, for performance gains and a cleaner image.
Yeah I can tell a difference but it’s still great. Hell, I don’t think I’d tell a difference WHEN I upgraded, but damn I really did. I upgraded to am5 when I felt prices would go insane. Went from a 3950x to 9950x and wowza. Just speedy. Also most of the features on the mobo that I would search for and turn on are on by default like for hypervisor vms and secure boot. But dang this cpu is crazy and my old one feels more chugged now but ONLY by comparison. Both are still great.
I'm still running a 2700x and I don't really have any issues running new games at 1440p. I can upgrade to a 5600 and I know I won't really have to worry about performance for a while. Hell even a 5500 is $75 and
If I were building a new build today then I would probably consider AM5 because I'd rather have a long term upgrade path, but you pay a premium for that. If you're on a strict budget then AM4 still performs very well and of course there's a bunch of used hardware out there as well.
I don't agree with the specific CPUs the article recommends (e.g. the 8700K is probably not worth it at this point, and not mentioning the X3D CPUs seems strange), but yeah, you can still build a very capable AM4 rig
It is, but even with ram prices the way they are, unless you're looking for a sub-$1k build, I wouldn't go with a dead platform. Just build the cheapest AM5 system you can, get a 16gb kit of ddr5 and you'll have upgradability for a few years at least. Unless you're ONLY concerned with gaming, then AM4 or even Intel 12th gen can get you where you want to be. This is all dependent on resolution, of course. For 4k gaming I wouldn't think about anything but AM5, considering X3D chips are already pretty expensive and you can get decent open-box deals for a 7600X if you're near a Micro Center. That and reusing a few parts is what saved my build budget.
It was never not good. Just wasnt worth building new over am5 for the price till ram prices changed. Only one on am5 in my house is the wife cus i got here a deal on a 7600x, ram, mobo combo for $300. I have a 5800x3d and daughter 5700x.
7700x / 3060rtx / 32G
Not quite highest settings but still runs everything decent... as long as it isn't UE5 based.
I've got a 9060XT on order to play with SteamOS on it as well. Will be the only upgrade in the foreseeable future.
At 1440p with my 5800X3D there's only one, maybe two games I've played recently where I've been been capped by my CPU performance in some fashion, and those were only temporary. Still runs everything else excellently without breaking a sweat
still rocking my 5900x, no intentions to upgrade anytime soon
I’m looking for a a cheap 5950X
Don't understand why it's not
Xbox Series and PS5 use Zen 2 so that basically the standard for modern games. AM4 is still perfectly capable especially with the later Zen 3 X3D CPUs rivaling the lower end Zen 4 and Zen 5 parts.
Got my 5800x3d about a year ago for $225. It was an INCREDIBLE deal. At that point, these were already basically unfindable. I had actually already spent $250 for a 5700x3d, but I nabbed this one when I saw it on Marketplace and managed to return the 5700x3d luckily.
Plus, I didn't have to replace my entire motherboard and memory, so I saved a crazy amount of money.
I paired the 5800x3d with a 9070xt, and I am sitting pretty right now. Don't plan to upgrade for at least four years.
I’m still using a Ryzen 7 3700, although I wish I had the extra cash to get an X3D chip.
Bruh, stop thinking that because "higher number thing" exists, the "previous number thing" became useless.
Computer hardware is not made with us mortals in mind or as a priority.
I'm still running a 5800X3D and I have no intention of upgrading anytime soon. AM4 is a strong platform and good thing, too, with the price of an AM5 system right now.
Yep. Still strong. Still get 75+fps on 1080p. (all I need) at med~high settings. Don't need next Gen and every news piece about pc market convinces me more to skip and wait for the next gen if I ever have to upgrade
My wife and I both are am4. I game and have multiple servers running for plex, Minecraft, space engineers etc.
My wife runs a 4000 l$ cad software.
Yall are delusional with the generational thing. Am4 didnt magically get bad just because am5 exists
Youre looking at this wrong. is your current rig working at an acceptable speed and reliability for your needs? if yes, dont bother to upgrade. the only people who constantly upgrade to latest and greatest hardware are the edge case enthusiast and guys for whom money doesnt matter. you are not either of them if you are asking this question.
and still beeing supported too ❤️👍
It will be fine for a while yet. Pretty much for anything gaming you really won't need to worry about upgrading until next gen consoles. No game coming out is going to really push much harder until next gen consoles arrive. That gives you until holiday 2027 or early 2028 for the most part, after 2028 is where your going to see a lot of games struggling. The thing is at that point even AM5 builds will likely struggle, that is just the way it happens with gaming is you get these huge jumps based around console releases.
For business and productivity it really depends but your likely going to be fine for a long while on that front as long as your computer will support windows 11. Where it gets tricky is some of the early or really low end AM4 motherboards that didn't support things like TPM or secure boot.
It is, although I did upgraded the cpu for windows 11, I also use the pc for work. Bought the Ryzen 7 5700X. It was on sale so I manage to get 2 more cores for the price of the 5600x.
It just depends if you’re a newer tech person or happy with your current performance person, I love new tech, seeing what it can do, I’m using a 9950x3d and will upgrade to the AM6 platform and newest performance chip when it’s available, it’s just someone’s preference..
'Latest and greatest' is exactly that. The latest stuff is the greatest stuff, but that doesn't automatically make everything that came before obsolete or defacto bad. There will be tons of people in this thread on AM4, even from a few years ago (think zen 2) that will report their PC is great for their use. And that's exactly the point of building a PC. If you want or need better hardware, you can, but you are also free to buy second hand, build with last gen etc
Its good as in sandy bridge good back when zen was new.