Learned graphics cards exist, bought one for my slim HP... it melted the PSU.. I bought a full sized psu that didn't fit into the case and snaked it in there like some sort of octopus sitting next to my computer... just kept replacing parts from there.
In a pc of theseus sort of way when does it stop being an hp?
Ikr? I was going to give my mom my monitor when I upgraded just to find out that I didn't have a compatible cable between that and her dinosaur of a computer. Luckily I had my 1060 still, so I decided why not? Well because EVERYTHING was proprietary garbage, that's why. So I just built her a new system all together.
Never buying an HP product ever again. Bought a high-end gaming laptop from HP, and was disappointed. Their proprietary hardware and firmware has tons of problems with both Windows and Linux. Their screen blacks out after like 2 years of use. Even your worst enemy should not deserve an HP. Never buying it again -42/100.
I haven't touched a Dell in years but I remember their motherboards being extremely funky with nonstandard layouts and dimensions. Also, their cases had so many weird hinges and cages holding everything together. Just a bizarre mishmash of engineering that I'm sure only exists solely because of corporate inertia and managerial fiat.
I work with them for a very large company doing the IT.
They are Very easy to repair and upgrade. Can access any part very easily and the manuals are all easily found on their support site.
Only issue i had was with the 5000 serise made out of recycled plastic. They would start to melt and we would get them back with fingerprints melted into them.
My previous PC was a refurbished Dell Optiplex 9020 I got off Amazon. Mid-tower, all the visual appeal of a concrete block. But also a fellow obsolete refugee from a cubicle farm, and thus my soul brother.
Original plan was "How much gaming PC can I get for how little money?" The stock PSU would handle a passively cooled GTX 1050 Ti. I did a LOT of gaming on that rig.
By the time I hit the upgrade limit, the only original parts were the case, MOBO, and CPU cooler core.
When I pulled the PSU and GPU out to put in my new rig, I put the stock PSU and 1050 Ti back. It still works, and is my current backup PC.
At one point my brother was going insane upgrading his Dell PC. New Motherboard, cpu, gpu, ram... but it just wouldn't turn on. Turns out their front panel connector was different from everyone else's for no good reason at all.
I cobbled together my old pc parts in a cheap case to sell during covid. I just needed a cheap mother board for my cpu. Found a super cheap Lenovo board. Seemed standard enough.... I had to order 2 or 3 adapter cables to connect to the power supply and look up a pin out for the front panel connectors. Fortunately it worked out just fine.
I have a couple of those book-sized mini Optiplexes and they're pretty cool. But they obviously don't conform to any ATX form factor so I don't expect standard components (ironically, they're slightly less proprietary than their full-sized office PCs due to the easily replaceable laptop-style power supplies)
HP
My intro into building was on an hp.
Learned graphics cards exist, bought one for my slim HP... it melted the PSU.. I bought a full sized psu that didn't fit into the case and snaked it in there like some sort of octopus sitting next to my computer... just kept replacing parts from there.
In a pc of theseus sort of way when does it stop being an hp?
I’d say when you swap mobos
I've been wondering the same thing about my hp pre built that only has the 3060, SSD, and HDD left.
When you burn a motherboard in the flame of Orodruin
When you replace the motherboard, and thus the case and PSU due to non-standard connections.
Ikr? I was going to give my mom my monitor when I upgraded just to find out that I didn't have a compatible cable between that and her dinosaur of a computer. Luckily I had my 1060 still, so I decided why not? Well because EVERYTHING was proprietary garbage, that's why. So I just built her a new system all together.
Never buying an HP product ever again. Bought a high-end gaming laptop from HP, and was disappointed. Their proprietary hardware and firmware has tons of problems with both Windows and Linux. Their screen blacks out after like 2 years of use. Even your worst enemy should not deserve an HP. Never buying it again -42/100.
Honestly real. I’m in the middle of moving a DELL prebuilt into a new chassis with a couple new bits and bobs. Absolute nightmare.
I haven't touched a Dell in years but I remember their motherboards being extremely funky with nonstandard layouts and dimensions. Also, their cases had so many weird hinges and cages holding everything together. Just a bizarre mishmash of engineering that I'm sure only exists solely because of corporate inertia and managerial fiat.
I work with them for a very large company doing the IT.
They are Very easy to repair and upgrade. Can access any part very easily and the manuals are all easily found on their support site.
Only issue i had was with the 5000 serise made out of recycled plastic. They would start to melt and we would get them back with fingerprints melted into them.
No issues except for that line.
Us handy ones know how to 'make it fit'
My previous PC was a refurbished Dell Optiplex 9020 I got off Amazon. Mid-tower, all the visual appeal of a concrete block. But also a fellow obsolete refugee from a cubicle farm, and thus my soul brother.
Original plan was "How much gaming PC can I get for how little money?" The stock PSU would handle a passively cooled GTX 1050 Ti. I did a LOT of gaming on that rig.
By the time I hit the upgrade limit, the only original parts were the case, MOBO, and CPU cooler core.
When I pulled the PSU and GPU out to put in my new rig, I put the stock PSU and 1050 Ti back. It still works, and is my current backup PC.
Cooler wire mod I remember it when I upgrade in mine.i7 2700 needed it
At one point my brother was going insane upgrading his Dell PC. New Motherboard, cpu, gpu, ram... but it just wouldn't turn on. Turns out their front panel connector was different from everyone else's for no good reason at all.
Lenovo too
I cobbled together my old pc parts in a cheap case to sell during covid. I just needed a cheap mother board for my cpu. Found a super cheap Lenovo board. Seemed standard enough.... I had to order 2 or 3 adapter cables to connect to the power supply and look up a pin out for the front panel connectors. Fortunately it worked out just fine.
Dell. But not just Dell by a longshot. But also Dell.
🤣, opening a pree built and there are springs and hinges everywhere, clips and buttons.
It's like it's come from an alternate dimension
Real OGs will remember the days of angle-grinder GTX 750 SFF installs
I think their pre builds will sell more if they used standard parts and set up like optiplex 790
fault of the user for not using off the shelf components
dont matter its a dell. how freaking cool would it be if optiplex cases were atx and you could put whatever you wanted inside...
damn theres some cool optiplex cases i would build a sleeper with.
Who buys dell?
That's an IQ test.
I have a couple of those book-sized mini Optiplexes and they're pretty cool. But they obviously don't conform to any ATX form factor so I don't expect standard components (ironically, they're slightly less proprietary than their full-sized office PCs due to the easily replaceable laptop-style power supplies)