I have moved 4 pangio cuneovirgata and 1 pangio semicincta to an upgraded tank 5 days ago (I still have to move 6 more pangio cuneovirgata from the old tank to this new one). The first few days they had erratic behavior which was basically moving in circles like crazy and hitting a corner of the aquarium in perpetuity. Although I drip acclimated them for 3h during transfer, I thought it still made sense for them to be stressed because their new tank has different water parameters given it is a biotope tank ( 6PH instead of 7, 3GH instead of 5, 0KH instead of 1). In the previous tank they also had a period of stress when they were introduced almost one year ago, but not as intense as this one. Besides the aforementioned water parameters, nitrites are 0, there is no ammonum/ammonia, nitrites are at 5ppm, TDS are 140, aquarium is 1.5 month old, and temperature is constant at 25.5 celsius.

Discarded causes: 1. Toxicity: nitrogen compunds are negligible, but just in case I doubled the dose of Prime. There was no improvement. Like for their old aquarium, I use tap water, so things like excess copper or other heavy metals or chemicals are discarded. The pangios in my old aquarium are calm. 2.Disease: all my fish were treated for parasites, bacteria, and fungal infections when introduced to their old tank almost 1 year ago. 3. Aerosols/other chemicals in the tank: both aquariums are next to each other, both have open tops, and I feed the same 4. Environment: they have many hiding spots and have very small granule sand; the same as in the previous tank. The current is lower than in the old tank. The water has a lot of tannins.

Possible causes: 1. Excess detritus: this is a biotope aquarium so it has a lot of dead leaves. This, naturally, creates detritus in the water column. I wonder if this damages their gills. Today I cleaned my canister filter for the first time (1.5 moth) and removed a lot of junk, and added a sponge filter to the filter intake. 2. Copepods: I collected cyclops from the local river 3 months ago, and cultured them in a resurrection jar. In the 1.5 months of the aquarium their population has exploded. I wonder if too many cyclops are stressing the fish or getting inside of their gills. 3. Aquarium soil: besides a lot of botanicals and the copepods, something else that is different to my other aquarium is that in this one I used 6 lb of Tropica aquarium soil ( the aquarium is 24 gal), and have only floaters (my other tank has many plants and floaters, and innert substrate) 4. Kh: kh is 0 which would lead to ph variability. I check my ph twice a day and notice a 0.3 increase in the morning after using an airstone during the night. I wonder if this change in PH affects the fish. 5. Botanicals: I boiled all botanicals before placing them in the aquarium. However, now that I remember, I used the water I boiled the driftwood in, because it had a lot of tannins. Maybe the driftwood had chemicals or something?

Other notes: the fish are eating, and seem to be very excited when I feed them, as if they are very hungry. This surprises me as I thoughy they would eat cyclops.

My last hope, to see if there is any improvement, is using activated carbon. If this does not work I do not know what to do. Any help or advice is appreciated.

Thank you

  • Wow, you laid out the facts in a nice list for us, thanks!

    I think it's just the combo of new tank plus new water parameters. I would expect them to settle down eventually.

    I congratulate you for medicating your fish prior, I've also found it cuts way down on health issues to treat them in quarantine after they are purchased rather than down the road in the display tank. And in my opinion, all loaches should be dewormed.

    I'd just concentrate on keeping the water quality high and waiting for them to settle for now. I've changed the pH in my eel loach tank by dumping in a 5 gallon bucket of water that botanicals had been soaking in for three days. It was quite brown and the pH lower than the tank water. The loaches were very active after adding the new brown water, but came to no harm after the change. Such changes also happen in nature after it rains, during floods, etc. so fish can adapt in many cases as long as they are healthy.

    I wouldn't clean your canister again for a while unless the flow slows down a lot. That "gunk" in the canister is doing the lord's work keeping the water quality up. Your tank is still young at 1.5 months cycled, too heavy on "cleaning" could set the cycle back, which you don't want.

    In your case, I would wait a few days and then do a 25%-50% water change. Then fast the tank for 24 hours. Your fish should be out and about hunting around for food at that point and more settled. Though if you had Pangio oblonga, all bets are off. That species pf Pangio is just far more active than most others.

    Good luck, and let us know how the tank progresses!

    Thank you for your comment FishGeek! I will follow your suggestions and see if things improve

  • New tank is most likely the culprit. Also the weather / air pressure changes can make them go nuts. Keep that in mind in case you’ve currently got some bad weather / storms going on outside.

    Thank you. Unfortunately there are no storms or rain at the moment

  • I hope all settles down quickly for you! It’s always stressful with such a big change but it sounds like you are doing everything you can to make the transition smooth. Congrats on the new biotope that will be interesting to watch as it progresses. Best wishes!

    Thank you for your comment!

  • from my kuhlis, i have the impression they are active rather during night, and they need places to hide, like stones or other stuff they can hide beneath. If they dont find such places, they get nervous and start swimming around kind of randomly, like in search for a better spot. so ig you dont have enough structure, add some (cannot judge form your photo)

    They have a few pebbles, driftwood and mostly many leaves/botanicals to hide

  • UPDATE: I found the culprit. The only plant I have in the aquarium (besides the floaters), which grows submersed and emersed, was touching the steel rod of the twinstar lamp, and electric current was getting inside of the aquarium. I realised this because I wanted to clean some debris the plant had, so I put my hand in the aquarium to touch the plant and I got an electric shock in my finger when touching the water. I now covered the steel rod with a plastic tube so it wont happen again. Now only 2 of the fish seem agitated. I hope this has not resulted in any permanent damage.

    How is that even possible? Why would the lamp have exposed electrical current? Oyyyyyy that’s so stressful. 

    Glad you figured it out.