I have braces and I have a severe-moderate overbite, my ortho is using elastics to try to fix it but not sure if elastics alone will do the job but regardless am i supposed to mew with my jaw relaxed because when i do so, the elastics pull my jaw forward but then if i try to clench my teeth with jaw pulled forward, they dont fit into each other (they dont overlap like when they do in my normal jaw position)
I have a typical mouth breather face so my relaxed face is with my mouth open and when I close it my chin contracts so I have to make an effort constantly throughout the day to close my mouth. Im very new to mewing so please give serious advice
I feel my face is a bit asymmetrical so whenever I try to mew i feel like im not equally providing pressure to all parts of my palate.
These are all my concerns. Thanks
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Okay thanks, if you have the names of some doctors please share
i get the symmetry thing but symmetry is like the cherry on too of good features tbh not to say she doesn’t look good tbh she looks strangely good for someone with a recessed jaw
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well no thats not it, now ur just lying entirely… yes i personally think she looks good but she most certainly has an extremely recessed jaw and thus hindered fundamentals, so the aesthetics, as you seem to believe, aren’t the most important thing here
Only double jaw surgery or constant force for years and hormones can fix that jaw at this point. Elastics cannot help anything in that. And mewing will require some effort. A small tip if you can't the try to get into slight underbite position and mew.
She is definitely young enough to make progress naturally. If she was 27, much different story. But she is at the prime age for this
prime age is pubescent years (10-17 years old typically for females). regardless her craniofacial development is too far gone, and the only realistic solution is surgery.
Not too far gone at all. She has plenty of years of physical development left. Imagine thinking a 17 year old girl is anywhere near her final form
Okay thanks
Before you decide to do surgery, you should start mewing. You are very young and can make a lot of improvements naturally. I wouldn’t consider doing a surgery before the age of 25. There are just too many other options that probably work way better for you right now. You are way too young for a surgery. At your young age it’s the perfect time to start improving posture.
okayyy
Don’t do elastics they will pull your top jaw down and back leading to a longer midface.
omg i never knew this😢 how do u fix overjet w/o elastics?
Jaw surgery
Would the teeth still not be flared though?
Expansion
A slightly longer midface is a worthwhile sacrifice for a better bite.
It’s not. Your smashing in your sinuses and messing with the support beams of your face
Says absolutely no one, except you
You're young enough to where expansion can work wonders. Objectively you have a great base to work with and expansion will allow your lower jaw to not he constricted by your small upper jaw. In essence your lower jaw has adapted to your small upper jaw and expansion will undo that.
The people saying "muh surgery" are ragebaiting trolls, most likely younger than you and living isolated from society.
by expansion do you mean marpe/sarpe? lmao did you type face in hindi “muh surgery”
MARPE, SARPE, or even mewing alone.
Regarding "muh", here is a link explaining the meme:
https://share.google/aimode/qdv0P6HVkleR7MvIc
thanks lol hahaha
I just want to say you’re still very beautiful!
Thank you sweetie
I really hope you won’t get surgery! I think nature knows better than a doctor with a knife… I have similar side profile as you and I regret trying to fix it by force(I did braces twice, I’m 30) I think the only way to improve is by letting go, And fixing posture by barefoot shoes and barefoot walking, the feet connected to the posture and the posture affects the jaw. You also very young and can easily improve But please don’t forget- your body knows best, more than any doctor who will suggest you some expensive, painful and irreversible treatment. You just need to give the body the conditions to grow and improve 🩷
okay wow thanks
I try this now, the letting the body heal itself Without using any force, moved to nature, eating as fresh as possible- chewing on fruits and veggies, moved to barefoot walk or barefoot shoes, because the modern shoes put force into the feet, and restricts them. I’ve already noticed a slight change in my feet and knees! You need to understand it’s all connected! And you are beautiful 🩷☺️
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Do you do mouth tape while you sleep? That’s a baby step that certainly won’t hurt any to try. And it’ll probably brighten up your under eyes - dont start worrying about this feature - it’s super normal! Just when I was in my 20s mine started bothering me, and I did filler, but ultimately mouth tape helped a lot :)
Hey can i dm
She doesn't have good bones under her her eye to support it, that's why there is a lot of sclera show, and dark under eyes
You’re so pretty. What do you want
Double jaw surgery. Maybe also genioplasty
Edit : probaly rhinoseptoplasty too but not completely sure and MARPE/SARPE IF your tongue dont fit into place which is quite likely since you are already recessed
Do you think thats the only way?
I cant confidently say its the only way but i think it would give the best results (with HUGE effort ofc, especially the bimax/double jaw surgery). Since you are 17 i doubt great advancement with just pure orthodontics is possible
Also genioplasty is mostly aesthetic instead of health and done along with Bimax/double jaw surgery
Also ngl a realistic order would be 1. Marpe/Sarpe 2. Double jaw surgery + genioplasty 3. Septorhinoplasty
(Btw if you dont know septorhinoplasty is basically health + aesthetic)
okay, do you think that maybe my huge ass nose makes my jaw appear more recessed and getting only a rhinoplasty could fix my face or is my jaw definitely very recessed?
no, the recessed jaw makes the nose appear big, don't get only rhino https://youtube.com/shorts/9EE0362gixc?si=WJ5LIsUn1jWpbpPz
thanksss
Mewlogy on YouTube shows face/thumb pulling techniques for free. Cranium autist is another, she is on tick tock I believe. Good luck ✌️
thanks girl but tik tok is banned in india😭 Ill watch Mewlogy tho
Craniumautist.org is her website, it has a video about proper thumbpulling posture if you go in the banned videos section.
thankyouu
Do thumbpulling and mewing and you'll look great in no time!
Hi can you elaborate
Yeah so basically thumbpulling will magically open your sutures and then you mew and do chin tucks and youll get insane forward growth. No surgery needed! Just buy my course for 49 euros a month and you'll get all the secrets.
Don’t buy that. All the information you need is already on the Internet. The advice in this isn’t that bad though.
yes yes wasnt gonna but I lost it when bro said magically
Most of the people are talking about your jaw as it is the problem but nothing happened with her jaw it is her maxilla/upper jaw that got deformed, inst it? (Im not an expert)
huh wdym
Go to an airway focused orthodontist and get a palate expander asap. It will expand the nasal floor, making you breathe better, and give you space for the tongue. That's the key. Then try to mew every time you can. That's your natural elastic band, the tongue will apply continuous upward (and forward) force. Another wonder is the biobloc, an orthodontic device which guides facial growth, you could propose it to ur dentist. Then, when you get older, if you're not satisfied, you could get double jaw surgery. Your front looks good so I suppose you have a good genetic base, even if it looks like you also have a down grown maxilla.
Le fort I and Le fort II with double jaw surgery
clearest Bimax case ive ever seen
i just looked up what it is and i agree
Mewing can only do so much. Your case is quite severe and will need surgical intervention.
dr alfaro
Luckily for you you're still really cute. I would ask him for an expander right away.
Your airway is so narrow. You should see a jaw surgeon.
Cooked I’ve seen people with that face do Lefort 2
damn bro
Ngl you’re attractive
VERY attractive. Don’t let the internet fool you into thinking you’re weird, I genuinely believe that. If it wasn’t for distance and Indian + black race mixing being a bad idea, I’d definitively date you (if you were willing to accept my own weirdness)
u could've just called her pretty and moved on. weird asf
💯
The autism sometimes gets a hold of me
Indians and Blacks race mixing creates beautiful people. I have met many Trini and Guyanese women with this mix and they are very attractive.