Some of whom were not actually proper students. I’ve got zero issue with actual international students, but the diploma mills so people can work here is a bunch of BS that needed to stop.
"the fake school"
You aren't getting a visa if it's a "fake school" that doesn't exist. The feds check the acceptance letter to the schools in their database, this is basic stuff.
What they are likely refering to is that the bar for provinically regulated diploma mills is really low, if you have a problem with this you need to speak to your permier, because the feds cannot regulate education.
This is the most important thing. I don't think most people who look on at what ICE is doing in the States thinks "Oh my god, mass deportations!?" they think "Fuck, no due process, no verification, untrained thugs as officers, racial profiling, playing games with immigration courts and laying traps for people trying to immigrate legally"
It's not WHAT they're doing, its the sloppy, half-assed, criminal way they're doing it. As long as the people we deport here meet all the legal criteria and get their day in court, we'll be fine.
I read a story about a guy who had lived in the states since he was three years old getting deported.
Sure, he probably should have filled out some paperwork, or maybe his parents should have. But why is the response to separate him from his wife and kids and career? Why is the response not “please fill out these forms” ?
Many of these deportations shouldn’t be happening.
The way it’s being done in the US—by targeting Latinos and Indigenous people—gives off first stage ethnic cleansing vibes.
Why is the response not “please fill out these forms” ?
US immigration law is highly technical so it's hard to say without being familiar with the particular case in question, but it's close to impossible to get legal status in the US after entering the country illegally (whereas it's much more straightforward if you entered legally and then overstayed your visa) so many of these "deported after living in the US for decades" cases are people who entered illegally and never had any path to legal status.
But even if you go the legal route, there is likely no path for you either.
Immigration to the USA is basically impossible, unless you have family in the USA, or are very rich that you can spend 1m+ on a visa or you have some rare skill.
Even if you get a work visa, for some countries it will take 120 years for that visa to turn into a greencard.
A friend of mine got a PhD from a very well respected US university, had a full time job offer as a university professor for either the same or another very well respected US university (I can’t precisely recall, it’s been a while), and applied to immigrate - she was denied and told her potential contribution to the country wasn’t sufficient to be accepted for immigration. That was 2014-ish, so definitely pre-current Trump nonsense and before the previous Trump administration.
I really don't think the punishment fits the crime there so to speak. You're talking about a person who may have no connections to their birth country, may not speak the language, and who has lived their whole lives somewhere else, built a life, and in many cases been an upstanding member of their community. They never made a choice to break any laws. What does it serve to not create a path to legal status for someone like that?
You're talking about a person who may have no connections to their birth country
That would only be relevant if they were actually being deported to their birth countries instead of being kidnapped and sent to whoever will take them.
I'm all for opening pathways to citizenship. All I meant is that under the law as it exists now, the government isn't left with many options besides deporting someone in that situation. If we want to enshrined the rights of every child brought to another country as an infant by their parents, then we should do that.
I get the emotional response, but I also can understand it from a bureaucratic standpoint.
I mean I do also kinda have an issue with what they're doing too lmao. There's just logistically no way to make their goal happen even with completely unlimited power, it would be the biggest mass migration/ethnic cleansing in history.
I feel like they'd be better off if they were naturalized into the immigration system but what do I know I guess
Not to mention that the US economy is extremely reliant on illegal immigrants to function. You saw it in the fall during harvest season, crops just rotting in the fields because there was no one to pick them. Now nothing is getting built because there are no construction workers willing to go to work at risk of being deported.
The crops stuff has more to do with tariffs and America's fucking insane agricultural program to be fair, where they force their farmers to compete for prices on the global market and then subsidize/bail them out when this very obviously goes fucking wrong lol.
America makes a SHIT TON of the world's soybeans but because of the tariffs, even if the farmers sold their crops at a loss, it would still be cheaper to buy soy from Brazil instead, even if they were literally giving it away for free almost. As a result there is zero financial or practical incentive to harvest the soy so it all just rots away
You would think of all industries, agriculture would be the one to make the most sense to be nationalized but American capitalism brainrot runs deep
I'm not talking about cash crops that are easily harvested by big equipment (wheat, corn, soybeans being the big 3) it's the vegetables and fruits that are harder to harvest that rely on immigrants to pick them by hand
Yes they do, it's fucked. If someone was living there for 40 years then why are they being deported?
The view on immigration is complicated. The biggest issue is unless you are someone very skilled with high income or family that is USA citizen. there is no path to USA immigration so previous govermenets have histoically turned a blind eye to "illegal" immigration because it was too much work for everyone to agree on a framework that would pass.
I guess the story is twofold, implicitly. 1: There are a record mumber of people being found to need deportation and 2: the government has allocated sufficient funding to meet that number of cases. So, actually, that is quite the story.
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Exactly. Two of my kids’ friends were deported, one to Australia and one to the US. They went with no problem. Given we’ve been letting government a million a year in recently, deporting 20k a year is t a big story.
What a click-bait headline. They use deportation in headline and removal in the body text. Since refused refugee claimants get departure orders not deportation orders. Claimants only get escalated to deportation orders under serious inadmissibility, or failure to follow the departure order.
A family in our small town has been getting deported, despite collecting signatures from basically the whole town. First the Dad, then a year later the Mom. Now their young son (born in Canada) is living here with his Grandma. Maybe there was a problem with the original paperwork for the Dad, but deporting immigrants coming to live in a town of 500 people in is not solving anything.
A "problem with the original paperwork" could be a whole lot of things. They may be nice people, but if that problem was a falsification, and it crosses a line in the system, then it's fair.
Could be two to blame then. The more I read and hear, the more I think there's fewer victims in this than we think. The kids are the only real victims. Surely mom and dad knew they were skirting the rules.
god the debates on this are so bad, Trump really won by painting all immigrants as criminals and we have to accept their shityy framework when talking to people.
When the Mom met with immigration after the Dad had to leave, it sounded like she was going to get to stay. Then later they decide she has to go too. I'm not close enough to the situation to know the details, but it seemed really odd. She was self-employed, so how come they didn't know she would also have to go when he did. AFAIK, they're still hoping to be able to come back.
It totally sucks for the family that has been integrated into the small town. However respect for the process is important. We cannot have groups of people who follow the rules and groups of people who do not that result in the same outcomes.
Yah it kind of should. If a community of people vouch for you, and want you to remain in their community, what’s the big deal. “Rules are rules” shouldn’t supersede having some humanity.
Technically false. Depending on the intention and/or context, bragging about something can be done in a celebratory manner. In this context, right wingers who lack empathy or critical thinking skills will see a headline like this and brag about how something is finally being done about all the "non white people".
Not the nearest safe country. If that was the case, we wouldn’t take any refugees.
But they have to claim asylum in the first safe place they arrive. For example, a Mexican who wants to claim asylum and is driving to Canada has to do that in the US. If he flies directly to Canada, he can claim asylum here.
Sorry...at this time we cant afford to bring more people in until we fix things for Canadian citizens first.
Stop repeating this xenophobic nonsense. The issues with Canada are not created nor worsened by letting people move here. There is no "fixing things for us first" it's just a bad faith excuse.
Cutting immigration is not going to make life better for working class Canadians. It will actively make life worse. Immigrants work jobs and pay taxes, they actively grow our economy and support our social systems. Without them, our ever-shrinking working population would need to shoulder the burden of our ever-growing aging population alone. More work, more taxes, less benefits.
We could stop letting immigrants into the country yesterday and we'd still have the same problems today. The oligarchs that run this country aren't going to reduce their prices because of lack of demand, they'll just continue reducing quality, buying out the competition and overworking/under paying their employees.
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"Fix things for Canadian citizens"
First... Who do you think these citizens are? Especially in the cities, where the vast majority of our population is centralized, the large majority of citizens are children or grandchildren of immigrants.
Second... When someone immigrates to a country, who do they now pay taxes to? And their children - To whom do their taxes go? And their children? And on and on... We want socialized care for our nation, and we need a tax base capable of carrying that burden. I'm all for taxing the hell out of the rich and the corporations (capital gains should be counted as income and corporations should never get to defer taxes), but until that system shifts we need more people, not less - Especially as our Boomer population continues to age out, retire, and not die young (relative to previous generations).
Third... Why do you believe that the happenstance of where someone is born should determine their fortune in life? Just because you have the good fortune of being here, why does that give you the right to deny it to others?
First - citizens are anyone who has Canadian citizenship, regardless of their country of origin.
Second - The taxes newcomers pay is irrelevant.
Third - How is that anything to do with Canadian and international law? How is Canada somehow responsible for housing people who were born in less fortunate countries?
Honestly, you’re just making up stuff to fit a narrative you’ve built in your head but it’s not based on reality.
First - citizens are anyone who has Canadian citizenship, regardless of their country of origin.
Their point was that most of us have descended from immigrants. That's an irrefutable fact. Many people who immigrated here recently are no different. Either they have their permanent residency or citizenship, or they will very soon.
Second - The taxes newcomers pay is irrelevant.
How is that irrelevant? They are lawfully paying their taxes and therefore paying into the system. The same system that people like you and me are benefiting from, and one that immigrants cannot even access in many cases. Immigrants are far more likely to pay in taxes than they are to take out in benefits as numerous studies like this one have shown.
Third - How is that anything to do with Canadian and international law? How is Canada somehow responsible for housing people who were born in less fortunate countries?
So you think we have absolutely no responsibility towards people in dire conditions, and that it's better to contravene international law and the UN Declaration of Human Rights on asylum?
Really?! Care to explain what part of my comment was "intellectually dishonest?" Or you just felt like writing that baseless comment without pointing out a single part of what I wrote that, according to you, was "intellectually dishonest?" A tip from someone who was in a good mood today until now - Maybe don't make claims that you cannot substantiate.
I’m not going to argue with you, you live in your reality. But making statements like “ So you think we have absolutely no responsibility towards people in dire conditions” is 100% intellectually dishonest and you just want to spin your narrative. So go for it.
What is this based off of? Canada is a wealthy country. Do you have evidence that we “can’t afford” more immigrants? All the evidence I’ve seen points to the opposite. So I’m assuming this is based off your feelings.
Canada has one of the highest amounts of arable land in the world. More than twice as much as the US per-capita and the US is very high compared to most of the world. Canada has 6.7 as much arable land per-capita compared to Germany and 27 times as much as Japan.
there are tons of cases where a person immigrated to Canada and their whole family comes after. 26% of people admitted under the family reunification program were parents or grandparents. Those are parents and grandparents of working age adults. It takes way more than one persons taxes especially at a minimum wage job to pay for medical costs. Children and elderly statistically have higher medical costs. Your argument is simply not true. Furthermore the number of immigrants going into high paying jobs has been plummeting over the past 5 years. The vast vast majority and going into minimum wage jobs and into a low income bracket which are tax burdens. A small percentage of high earners already pay for all our public services and immigration is making that worse.
Concerning??? This country has due process and extremely lenient in every aspect of law and order. Maybe chalk this up to the process working how it should instead of being concerned about people getting to stay when they shouldn't.
I really hate this and hate the "well the law is the law" shit. Deportation is an act of cruelty and violence which tears apart families and can kill people.
There's a reason it was always selectively enforced law in the past and just not a priority for the government. This is solely to please the Americans and the anti-immigrant crowd.
The failures of our governments to build up public services or regulate housing is now borne on the backs of those who have the least. "It's the law, follow it" is such a cowardly way to engage in an issue.
There are no human rights being violated when people working without a visa are deported, as long as there is due process. Nobody has a right to live in Canada if they want to cheat the system. If we had some kind of maple gestapo sending out any minority they can bag to foreign prisons without due process like our neighbour down south, then we would have a problem.
My opinion might change if it was revealed that the deportees had mostly been living here for decades already, but so far that doesn't seem to be the case
As of Oct 31st out of 18,785 removals there were 930 removed this year for Criminality, Transborder criminality, or Organized Crime. Source
Those wouldn’t all be people who would be considered “wanted criminals”, so the answer to your question is less than 930 people, which is less than 5% of people removed.
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These people cook our food, serve us at restraunts, cut our lawns, do our landscaping, pick the farmers crops, do the manual labour in our factories, drive our trucks, are cheap labourers and entry level apprentices for construction crews, and entery level IT support so that we can work our cushy office jobs and maintain our quality of life.
Why can't these entry-level jobs be done by young Canadians?
As long as they have due process there is no story here.
Yeah we also took in people in record numbers in the last few years. This was bound to happen. It's just math.
A very large portion of recent immigrants in Canada were just international students.
Some of whom were not actually proper students. I’ve got zero issue with actual international students, but the diploma mills so people can work here is a bunch of BS that needed to stop.
If you are getting a diploma from a place that is next to a KFC and a kickboxing studio maybe reconsider your choice.
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"the fake school"
You aren't getting a visa if it's a "fake school" that doesn't exist. The feds check the acceptance letter to the schools in their database, this is basic stuff.
What they are likely refering to is that the bar for provinically regulated diploma mills is really low, if you have a problem with this you need to speak to your permier, because the feds cannot regulate education.
This is the most important thing. I don't think most people who look on at what ICE is doing in the States thinks "Oh my god, mass deportations!?" they think "Fuck, no due process, no verification, untrained thugs as officers, racial profiling, playing games with immigration courts and laying traps for people trying to immigrate legally"
It's not WHAT they're doing, its the sloppy, half-assed, criminal way they're doing it. As long as the people we deport here meet all the legal criteria and get their day in court, we'll be fine.
I read a story about a guy who had lived in the states since he was three years old getting deported.
Sure, he probably should have filled out some paperwork, or maybe his parents should have. But why is the response to separate him from his wife and kids and career? Why is the response not “please fill out these forms” ?
Many of these deportations shouldn’t be happening.
The way it’s being done in the US—by targeting Latinos and Indigenous people—gives off first stage ethnic cleansing vibes.
US immigration law is highly technical so it's hard to say without being familiar with the particular case in question, but it's close to impossible to get legal status in the US after entering the country illegally (whereas it's much more straightforward if you entered legally and then overstayed your visa) so many of these "deported after living in the US for decades" cases are people who entered illegally and never had any path to legal status.
DACA etc
But even if you go the legal route, there is likely no path for you either.
Immigration to the USA is basically impossible, unless you have family in the USA, or are very rich that you can spend 1m+ on a visa or you have some rare skill.
Even if you get a work visa, for some countries it will take 120 years for that visa to turn into a greencard.
Thier system is broken
A friend of mine got a PhD from a very well respected US university, had a full time job offer as a university professor for either the same or another very well respected US university (I can’t precisely recall, it’s been a while), and applied to immigrate - she was denied and told her potential contribution to the country wasn’t sufficient to be accepted for immigration. That was 2014-ish, so definitely pre-current Trump nonsense and before the previous Trump administration.
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I really don't think the punishment fits the crime there so to speak. You're talking about a person who may have no connections to their birth country, may not speak the language, and who has lived their whole lives somewhere else, built a life, and in many cases been an upstanding member of their community. They never made a choice to break any laws. What does it serve to not create a path to legal status for someone like that?
That would only be relevant if they were actually being deported to their birth countries instead of being kidnapped and sent to whoever will take them.
I'm all for opening pathways to citizenship. All I meant is that under the law as it exists now, the government isn't left with many options besides deporting someone in that situation. If we want to enshrined the rights of every child brought to another country as an infant by their parents, then we should do that.
I get the emotional response, but I also can understand it from a bureaucratic standpoint.
Hard disagree. We have the ability to make more empathetic immigration laws, or execute the ones we have in a more empathetic way.
I'm from the states, it is definitely what they are doing AND how they are doing it.
I mean I do also kinda have an issue with what they're doing too lmao. There's just logistically no way to make their goal happen even with completely unlimited power, it would be the biggest mass migration/ethnic cleansing in history.
I feel like they'd be better off if they were naturalized into the immigration system but what do I know I guess
Not to mention that the US economy is extremely reliant on illegal immigrants to function. You saw it in the fall during harvest season, crops just rotting in the fields because there was no one to pick them. Now nothing is getting built because there are no construction workers willing to go to work at risk of being deported.
The crops stuff has more to do with tariffs and America's fucking insane agricultural program to be fair, where they force their farmers to compete for prices on the global market and then subsidize/bail them out when this very obviously goes fucking wrong lol.
America makes a SHIT TON of the world's soybeans but because of the tariffs, even if the farmers sold their crops at a loss, it would still be cheaper to buy soy from Brazil instead, even if they were literally giving it away for free almost. As a result there is zero financial or practical incentive to harvest the soy so it all just rots away
You would think of all industries, agriculture would be the one to make the most sense to be nationalized but American capitalism brainrot runs deep
I'm not talking about cash crops that are easily harvested by big equipment (wheat, corn, soybeans being the big 3) it's the vegetables and fruits that are harder to harvest that rely on immigrants to pick them by hand
That's fair! I wasn't as up on my knowledge of those! You probably want those being harvested! Lol
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They wouldn't though. They would never pay enough money, or the cost of fruits and vegetables would rise even more than they have
"Oh my god, mass deportations!?"
Yes they do, it's fucked. If someone was living there for 40 years then why are they being deported?
The view on immigration is complicated. The biggest issue is unless you are someone very skilled with high income or family that is USA citizen. there is no path to USA immigration so previous govermenets have histoically turned a blind eye to "illegal" immigration because it was too much work for everyone to agree on a framework that would pass.
I guess the story is twofold, implicitly. 1: There are a record mumber of people being found to need deportation and 2: the government has allocated sufficient funding to meet that number of cases. So, actually, that is quite the story.
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Due process come in many forms. If they have a record or knowingly overstay and have been issued a removal order that’s due process.
Yeah…that’s only ~20,000 a year. A rounding error compared to how many people have entered the country in the last 4 years.
That's right
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Exactly. Two of my kids’ friends were deported, one to Australia and one to the US. They went with no problem. Given we’ve been letting government a million a year in recently, deporting 20k a year is t a big story.
Yep very true
What a click-bait headline. They use deportation in headline and removal in the body text. Since refused refugee claimants get departure orders not deportation orders. Claimants only get escalated to deportation orders under serious inadmissibility, or failure to follow the departure order.
And still Canada Proud will complain
I dont think we should be celebrating more (or less) refugees being deported.
A well-run system minimizes BOTH false acceptance AND human suffering. Bragging about deportation rates is political theater.
A family in our small town has been getting deported, despite collecting signatures from basically the whole town. First the Dad, then a year later the Mom. Now their young son (born in Canada) is living here with his Grandma. Maybe there was a problem with the original paperwork for the Dad, but deporting immigrants coming to live in a town of 500 people in is not solving anything.
A "problem with the original paperwork" could be a whole lot of things. They may be nice people, but if that problem was a falsification, and it crosses a line in the system, then it's fair.
I'm not really privy to the details, but the rumor is that the employer did something incorrectly to bring him in originally.
The kid should sue the employer for damages in that case.
how? there is no law for them to sue
Could be two to blame then. The more I read and hear, the more I think there's fewer victims in this than we think. The kids are the only real victims. Surely mom and dad knew they were skirting the rules.
Crazy to say this when you admittedly have zero fucking clue what you’re talking about
god the debates on this are so bad, Trump really won by painting all immigrants as criminals and we have to accept their shityy framework when talking to people.
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When the Mom met with immigration after the Dad had to leave, it sounded like she was going to get to stay. Then later they decide she has to go too. I'm not close enough to the situation to know the details, but it seemed really odd. She was self-employed, so how come they didn't know she would also have to go when he did. AFAIK, they're still hoping to be able to come back.
It totally sucks for the family that has been integrated into the small town. However respect for the process is important. We cannot have groups of people who follow the rules and groups of people who do not that result in the same outcomes.
Equity is built into every legal and administrative system, of course the rules can be bent in individual cases.
If you're here illegally it shouldn't matter if your friends think you shouldn't be deported.
Yah it kind of should. If a community of people vouch for you, and want you to remain in their community, what’s the big deal. “Rules are rules” shouldn’t supersede having some humanity.
The community doesn't even know why they're being deported, they're supporting them blindly. That's not a good system.
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the point of our system is to benefit the community, if the community wants them there then why should the opinion of the redditors matter?
I'm sure the town doesn't think of them as a "mess" like you are protraying.
Who's bragging?
r/Canada
Right-wingers
You are incredibly naive if you think no one is celebrating.
Celebrating and bragging are not the same.
Technically false. Depending on the intention and/or context, bragging about something can be done in a celebratory manner. In this context, right wingers who lack empathy or critical thinking skills will see a headline like this and brag about how something is finally being done about all the "non white people".
The folks in the top comment
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Tweaked it how?
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Not the nearest safe country. If that was the case, we wouldn’t take any refugees.
But they have to claim asylum in the first safe place they arrive. For example, a Mexican who wants to claim asylum and is driving to Canada has to do that in the US. If he flies directly to Canada, he can claim asylum here.
"I believe"
It's a good thing we don't make policy based on your vibes.
They’re already doing it legally. Stop pathetically trying to mirror American rhetoric.
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Stop repeating this xenophobic nonsense. The issues with Canada are not created nor worsened by letting people move here. There is no "fixing things for us first" it's just a bad faith excuse.
Cutting immigration is not going to make life better for working class Canadians. It will actively make life worse. Immigrants work jobs and pay taxes, they actively grow our economy and support our social systems. Without them, our ever-shrinking working population would need to shoulder the burden of our ever-growing aging population alone. More work, more taxes, less benefits.
We could stop letting immigrants into the country yesterday and we'd still have the same problems today. The oligarchs that run this country aren't going to reduce their prices because of lack of demand, they'll just continue reducing quality, buying out the competition and overworking/under paying their employees.
I mean I can tell you I know for sure that housing and apartment availability is increasing in my area due to reductions in immigration/tfw.
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"Fix things for Canadian citizens"
First... Who do you think these citizens are? Especially in the cities, where the vast majority of our population is centralized, the large majority of citizens are children or grandchildren of immigrants.
Second... When someone immigrates to a country, who do they now pay taxes to? And their children - To whom do their taxes go? And their children? And on and on... We want socialized care for our nation, and we need a tax base capable of carrying that burden. I'm all for taxing the hell out of the rich and the corporations (capital gains should be counted as income and corporations should never get to defer taxes), but until that system shifts we need more people, not less - Especially as our Boomer population continues to age out, retire, and not die young (relative to previous generations).
Third... Why do you believe that the happenstance of where someone is born should determine their fortune in life? Just because you have the good fortune of being here, why does that give you the right to deny it to others?
First - citizens are anyone who has Canadian citizenship, regardless of their country of origin.
Second - The taxes newcomers pay is irrelevant.
Third - How is that anything to do with Canadian and international law? How is Canada somehow responsible for housing people who were born in less fortunate countries?
Honestly, you’re just making up stuff to fit a narrative you’ve built in your head but it’s not based on reality.
Their point was that most of us have descended from immigrants. That's an irrefutable fact. Many people who immigrated here recently are no different. Either they have their permanent residency or citizenship, or they will very soon.
How is that irrelevant? They are lawfully paying their taxes and therefore paying into the system. The same system that people like you and me are benefiting from, and one that immigrants cannot even access in many cases. Immigrants are far more likely to pay in taxes than they are to take out in benefits as numerous studies like this one have shown.
So you think we have absolutely no responsibility towards people in dire conditions, and that it's better to contravene international law and the UN Declaration of Human Rights on asylum?
Stop twisting things, it’s intellectually dishonest.
Really?! Care to explain what part of my comment was "intellectually dishonest?" Or you just felt like writing that baseless comment without pointing out a single part of what I wrote that, according to you, was "intellectually dishonest?" A tip from someone who was in a good mood today until now - Maybe don't make claims that you cannot substantiate.
I’m not going to argue with you, you live in your reality. But making statements like “ So you think we have absolutely no responsibility towards people in dire conditions” is 100% intellectually dishonest and you just want to spin your narrative. So go for it.
What is this based off of? Canada is a wealthy country. Do you have evidence that we “can’t afford” more immigrants? All the evidence I’ve seen points to the opposite. So I’m assuming this is based off your feelings.
Probably Americans trying to get in. I know I wish I could.
Americans are welcome to apply for legal status alongside all other immigrants. But claiming asylum as an American citizen is unlikely to fly.
". But claiming asylum as an American citizen is unlikely to fly."
Anyone regardless of citizenship who was physically in America cannot apply for asylum in Canada
It's more complicated than that. There's exceptions. I encourage you to read up on it yourself before making false claims in the Internet.
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Canada has one of the highest amounts of arable land in the world. More than twice as much as the US per-capita and the US is very high compared to most of the world. Canada has 6.7 as much arable land per-capita compared to Germany and 27 times as much as Japan.
You can go look at the statistics here
https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/corporate/publications-manuals/annual-report-parliament-immigration-2025.html
there are tons of cases where a person immigrated to Canada and their whole family comes after. 26% of people admitted under the family reunification program were parents or grandparents. Those are parents and grandparents of working age adults. It takes way more than one persons taxes especially at a minimum wage job to pay for medical costs. Children and elderly statistically have higher medical costs. Your argument is simply not true. Furthermore the number of immigrants going into high paying jobs has been plummeting over the past 5 years. The vast vast majority and going into minimum wage jobs and into a low income bracket which are tax burdens. A small percentage of high earners already pay for all our public services and immigration is making that worse.
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Concerning??? This country has due process and extremely lenient in every aspect of law and order. Maybe chalk this up to the process working how it should instead of being concerned about people getting to stay when they shouldn't.
I really hate this and hate the "well the law is the law" shit. Deportation is an act of cruelty and violence which tears apart families and can kill people.
There's a reason it was always selectively enforced law in the past and just not a priority for the government. This is solely to please the Americans and the anti-immigrant crowd.
The failures of our governments to build up public services or regulate housing is now borne on the backs of those who have the least. "It's the law, follow it" is such a cowardly way to engage in an issue.
As long as there is due process and the qualifications for deportation are just, this is a non-issue.
On top of that, you didn't even read the article, did you?
O Canada, violating human rights since 1867...but nicer!
There are no human rights being violated when people working without a visa are deported, as long as there is due process. Nobody has a right to live in Canada if they want to cheat the system. If we had some kind of maple gestapo sending out any minority they can bag to foreign prisons without due process like our neighbour down south, then we would have a problem.
My opinion might change if it was revealed that the deportees had mostly been living here for decades already, but so far that doesn't seem to be the case
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As of Oct 31st out of 18,785 removals there were 930 removed this year for Criminality, Transborder criminality, or Organized Crime. Source
Those wouldn’t all be people who would be considered “wanted criminals”, so the answer to your question is less than 930 people, which is less than 5% of people removed.
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Why can't these entry-level jobs be done by young Canadians?
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Sorry, are you insinuating that we should be deporting 5 million people? We don’t even have that many non-permanent residents in Canada.