I don't know where in the government the drive to prosecute him came from but the point is that France is willing to do so based on a political expression
Photographs and fingerprints on entry are fairly common, but the list of countries that require photographs on exit is shorter. US airports today aren't even configured to allow for exit controls...
Many do for entry. You just don't realize because it's just part of customs at the airport. Any EU country you are entering is taking your picture. Same with the UK and Aus. Fingerprints are taken at many other places like Costa Rica a alternative to sunny Florida. The exit tracking is the only I think isn't common in international travel.
They take a photo of the front of the car for license plate, which can get the people in the fronts face. But not to a biometric degree which they now want too for all passengers.
It depends on the crossing, the one on the Klondike highway to skagway sometimes doesn't have anyone there! You just go right in, this was years ago now. Could be different today.
There is (was?) an unmanned crossing on a remote island in the Lake of the Woods, on the border between Manitoba/Ontario/Minnesota, where there is a phone that you pickup and call border patrol to report your crossing.
They are taking this remote entry method away (which applied to more than one spot). It was just announced. People will need to show up to a border crossing.
Canada has announced that unmanned crossings / access will be closed / unacceptable. Only manned crossings will be allowed, and all others will be considered illegal crossings of the border.
Added earlier post by others.
Canada to end remote border crossing program used largely by Americans
This already happens. They scan your passport or NEXUS card, you and your car is videoed... I mean, you can SEE the cameras. And the signs saying you'll be recorded. At the airport, they take your picture and put it on the little slip of paper you give to the customs agent.
Stupid fearmongering articles like this are not helpful.
If you've ever gone to the US, they have that info already. Get over it. CBSA has it as well. You know, the guys who issued you your passport. With your photo on it. And all your personal info you gave them to get it.
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Also basically every other country does this. Many also take your fingerprints too! It's annoying the US is now doing it but it's not like your privacy is just being stolen by the IS they are just going back to many international travel norms. I had someone with a nexus complain to me about the changes which is hilarious because they take fucking retinal scans for nexus. You already agreed to give them even more biometric data.
As someone that used to cross between Detroit/Windsor, Port Huron/Sarnia or Niagara Falls... I was pretty surprised at how "lax" the crossing was when we crossed at (I think) I-95 by comparison... this was way back in like 2007 though.
I had to get fingerprinted, photographed and retinal scanned when I got my Nexus card as did my ex-wife. I don't remember what they did for my kids...I'm pretty sure the same but that was many years ago.
I think people are freaking out because they never did this before.
Nexus is quite a bit different than a normal crossing. It totally makes sense that a "FastPass" lane for border crossings would have more stringent checks on participants in the program, no?
Same with Japan, actually quite common. And yes, went to Mexico 3 years ago and they were already taking pictures back then.
You also have to have your photo taken when you fly into Canada as well, and a lot of ports of entry/departure in different countries using automated kiosks takes photos as well, pretty standard these days to be honest.
I dunno, getting held in a cell block in an impoverished country is definitely going to lead to some weight loss. Maybe this is a new RFK jr initiative.
I was photographed by CBD in 2022 in Biden’s America. Seems MAGA had already infiltrated policy.
They also asked me if I had anything pointy on me that I could stick them with.
I did have a tiny Swiss Army Knife on my keychain that I had not declared because I forgot about it being there.
What would happen today under those circumstances? This is exactly why (Trump) fascism is so dangerous. The smallest thing could be used against anyone. I think I speak for many Canadiens: never return until Trump is deposed and people like Pam Bondi and Kash Patel are tried for crimes against humanity.
In some cases, U.S. customs officials will also be able to capture travelers’ fingerprints.
Remember to turn off face and fingerprint unlock on your phone before crossing the border! PINs and passwords can't be compelled, but your fingerprint can be used without your permission. (IANAL, however)
This is why I travel with a separate phone that doesn’t have Reddit and such on it, while also locking down whatever social media I do have. To be fair I only actually use Reddit and a basic Facebook account for marketplace.
Yeah, I think I'll wipe my older phone and use it for border crossing. I pretty much just need maps, music, podcasts, and a web browser. Fortunately, I'm old enough that it's marginally plausible that I don't use social media. (Mainly because I don't really, outside of reddit.)
The regularly not following the rules so you’re foolish to actually have expectations on what I’ll do. Because they don’t care. They’ll actively fight when they have been proven and convicted of doing the wrong thing.
What if you just uninstall all social medias until you get through so the only thing they'll have is like your camera pictures at worst? Are they being massive pieces of shit big enough to reinstall social medias and then tell you to sign in?
Evidence of what? To use against you how? They're not cops, all they can do is refuse you entry, you're just skipping the step where they go through your phone to find a reason why they can refuse you.
They’re doing far worse and just annoying entry for people trying to come into the country. They have been imprisoning and exporting people to countries that they have never been to before see for example the Australian woman who was disappeared to El Salvador.
Actually many of us are. And understanding the circumstances in which these things are occuring is important for knowing how to protect yourself and others from it. Misinformation and fear-mongering helps no one. Not saying it's safe to cross the border, not a snowball's chance in hell I'd consider that right now, just saying maybe don't assume everything is exactly how it's being reported. Propaganda goes both ways.
It's not the refusing entry that I'd be concerned about. It's the fishing expedition for social media comments to use as an excuse to detain me for days or weeks at a time.
Did that happen at a Canada-US border crossing? No. It did not. Want to find any example of that happening on this side of the country, to typical visitors that don't apply for any visa whatsoever?
Just don’t go there unless you have to. Trump‘s turned it into what he calls a shit hole country . The guy has the opposite of the Midas touch everything he touches turns to shit.
How will they take a photo leaving the country? Particularly via Land borders? Air and Sea ports I can understand Particularly if flying into Canada from thr US- or coming via sea from the US. But to take a photo of everyone leaving would mean either getting the Canadian border to share data, photos and fingerprints on every car and truck crossing the border; or setting up their own exit booth at each border.
I would hope that we would only share public data (license plate, general passport info, etc) and the second option is wildly expensive like billions of dollars expensive.....to say nothing of their southern border.
Afaik they don't have exit controls at airports either, and US airports aren't really set up to have exit controls as they generally mix international and domestic gates in the same terminal.
I wonder how this will work for people travelling by car. Does the officer walk around with a camera? Or does everyone have to get out of the car and walk in to be photographed!
They can take a picture of me leaving and K.M.A. Oh wait, that would mean I went there in the first place. Nope, not until America starts speaking up for its citizens.
This is a non story. This already happens in every country aside from ones without well guarded borders. Does anyone think there are not cameras at the airports, customs, etc?
I mean, I'm sure it was already happening but to come out and say it outright? The US can get fucked. If they want to treat Canadians like we're some kind of security threat then they can fuck right off.
They will just make the matches to ALL THE META data Zuckerberg sent and the new data mining that Meta glasses will generate with the sale of Ray Ban glasses. Huge surveillance operations. , as well as all the files that MUSK made off with. Every single US citizen personal files were captured by Elon Musk. Photos and Fingerprints will just build the already existing profile we have.
I passed the border yesterday at YVR. They did photograph me, and then used the same face id for the scanner at the gate. I didn't have to scan my boarding pass, it just read my face.
I’m not against this on principle. Other countries do it at their border crossings too. But of course in the context of the current US authoritarian regime speedrun, it can only be seen as a means to a shitty end.
Went across the border today near Windsor/Detroit by car. If I didn't have to go I wouldn't have gone. It was a total nightmare. Basically every Canadian car was asked to turn into a separate parking area to await a thorough car search and to speak to an agent who was definitely trained in bullying tactics.
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They sure are trying their best to make sure no one wants to go there.
yes they are, but
Cuba also does this. France does this too.
Sure, but like when was the last time France arrested someone because they said mean things that hurt their leader's feewings online.
Umm...
What does that have to do with their leader’s feelings?
I don't know where in the government the drive to prosecute him came from but the point is that France is willing to do so based on a political expression
Eh...
Photographs and fingerprints on entry are fairly common, but the list of countries that require photographs on exit is shorter. US airports today aren't even configured to allow for exit controls...
Every country does this …
No they don’t
Many do for entry. You just don't realize because it's just part of customs at the airport. Any EU country you are entering is taking your picture. Same with the UK and Aus. Fingerprints are taken at many other places like Costa Rica a alternative to sunny Florida. The exit tracking is the only I think isn't common in international travel.
The US requires entry and exit metric capture of all non citizens, including land borders. This is not normal, and no other western country does this.
Learn your facts before you make excuses for bad policy.
I kinda thought they already took photos when you drove across.
They take a photo of the front of the car for license plate, which can get the people in the fronts face. But not to a biometric degree which they now want too for all passengers.
It depends on the crossing, the one on the Klondike highway to skagway sometimes doesn't have anyone there! You just go right in, this was years ago now. Could be different today.
lived in Whitehorse in 1997, remember having to show my driver's lscence when we went to Skagway.
I believe that that was the case at most border crossings pre-9/11.
There is (was?) an unmanned crossing on a remote island in the Lake of the Woods, on the border between Manitoba/Ontario/Minnesota, where there is a phone that you pickup and call border patrol to report your crossing.
They are taking this remote entry method away (which applied to more than one spot). It was just announced. People will need to show up to a border crossing.
Program will end in Sept of 2026.
After that they can still report at staffed border stations or through designated telephone reporting sites.
Canada has announced that unmanned crossings / access will be closed / unacceptable. Only manned crossings will be allowed, and all others will be considered illegal crossings of the border.
Added earlier post by others. Canada to end remote border crossing program used largely by Americans
They were there a couple years ago when I crossed the Skagway border.
Maybe they were on lunch when I went lol
Ha!
This already happens. They scan your passport or NEXUS card, you and your car is videoed... I mean, you can SEE the cameras. And the signs saying you'll be recorded. At the airport, they take your picture and put it on the little slip of paper you give to the customs agent.
Stupid fearmongering articles like this are not helpful.
I wouldnt want the trump administration to have 1 more bit of information about me. Read on Palantir.
If you've ever gone to the US, they have that info already. Get over it. CBSA has it as well. You know, the guys who issued you your passport. With your photo on it. And all your personal info you gave them to get it.
Passports are under IRCC, not CBSA.
So then they have your data from your passport and CBSA gets you at the border.
That's not the way things work in Canada. Agencies don't share data by default, and this is on purpose.
https://www.priv.gc.ca/en/privacy-topics/information-and-advice-for-individuals/your-privacy-rights/the-federal-government-and-your-personal-information/
Also basically every other country does this. Many also take your fingerprints too! It's annoying the US is now doing it but it's not like your privacy is just being stolen by the IS they are just going back to many international travel norms. I had someone with a nexus complain to me about the changes which is hilarious because they take fucking retinal scans for nexus. You already agreed to give them even more biometric data.
I got taken in pictures when I entered via bus then no picture when I left via car.
Until now you were free to leave completely unencumbered. No gates, lineups, guards or ID required.
As someone that used to cross between Detroit/Windsor, Port Huron/Sarnia or Niagara Falls... I was pretty surprised at how "lax" the crossing was when we crossed at (I think) I-95 by comparison... this was way back in like 2007 though.
I had to get fingerprinted, photographed and retinal scanned when I got my Nexus card as did my ex-wife. I don't remember what they did for my kids...I'm pretty sure the same but that was many years ago.
I think people are freaking out because they never did this before.
Nexus is quite a bit different than a normal crossing. It totally makes sense that a "FastPass" lane for border crossings would have more stringent checks on participants in the program, no?
Hello, Mexico for warm vacations. Feliz Navidad! 👋
Went to Mexico 2 months ago and had to take a picture on entry.
I just flew to Mexico and no photo required.
Same. About a month ago
Dominican Republic does it as well
Same with Japan, actually quite common. And yes, went to Mexico 3 years ago and they were already taking pictures back then.
You also have to have your photo taken when you fly into Canada as well, and a lot of ports of entry/departure in different countries using automated kiosks takes photos as well, pretty standard these days to be honest.
...as does Cuba.
I went one month ago and didn't.
whose gonna tell him
You realize this is pretty normal right? They already ask for your passport, it’s not like it’s a secret that you’re entering/exiting a country
Which should be really easy for their border patrol to maintain, since almost no one in this country is headed in their direction.
Just maple MAGA conservatives dickheads. Like large portions of my extended family.
I feel for you. Its no doubt frustrating trying to have a battle of wits with unarmed opponents whenever politics comes up at family events.
Yeah, but it's like wrestling with a pig in mud
Before and after? Like a makeover? I’m not sure ICE custody qualifies as spa time.
I dunno, getting held in a cell block in an impoverished country is definitely going to lead to some weight loss. Maybe this is a new RFK jr initiative.
I was photographed by CBD in 2022 in Biden’s America. Seems MAGA had already infiltrated policy.
They also asked me if I had anything pointy on me that I could stick them with.
I did have a tiny Swiss Army Knife on my keychain that I had not declared because I forgot about it being there.
What would happen today under those circumstances? This is exactly why (Trump) fascism is so dangerous. The smallest thing could be used against anyone. I think I speak for many Canadiens: never return until Trump is deposed and people like Pam Bondi and Kash Patel are tried for crimes against humanity.
Remember to turn off face and fingerprint unlock on your phone before crossing the border! PINs and passwords can't be compelled, but your fingerprint can be used without your permission. (IANAL, however)
They’d just refuse entry for refusing to unlock your devices.
your social media history can be used to and put you in jail and then export you to El Salvador
They don't need a reason to send someone to a country they aren't from. If they can do it to citizens, they can do it to tourists even easier.
We should really bring back simple Nokia style flip phones. No social media.
Those still exist fyi lol. Kyocera makes some super durable flips, a few even have some modern features like Spotify and android auto.
As long as they only refuse entry and don't ship you off to some concentration camp.
https://www.npr.org/2025/04/02/nx-s1-5341465/jasmine-mooney-canadian-actress-ice-detention
Havent been so far
For sure you'd be refused entry, but at least your reddit comments couldn't be used as evidence against you.
This is why I travel with a separate phone that doesn’t have Reddit and such on it, while also locking down whatever social media I do have. To be fair I only actually use Reddit and a basic Facebook account for marketplace.
Yeah, I think I'll wipe my older phone and use it for border crossing. I pretty much just need maps, music, podcasts, and a web browser. Fortunately, I'm old enough that it's marginally plausible that I don't use social media. (Mainly because I don't really, outside of reddit.)
IANAL either but if you do this I'm pretty sure they will just refuse you entry, if not charge you with whatever they want.
The regularly not following the rules so you’re foolish to actually have expectations on what I’ll do. Because they don’t care. They’ll actively fight when they have been proven and convicted of doing the wrong thing.
Oh for sure they'll refuse entry. But at least they can't use social media comments on your phone as evidence against you.
What if you just uninstall all social medias until you get through so the only thing they'll have is like your camera pictures at worst? Are they being massive pieces of shit big enough to reinstall social medias and then tell you to sign in?
Evidence of what? To use against you how? They're not cops, all they can do is refuse you entry, you're just skipping the step where they go through your phone to find a reason why they can refuse you.
They’re doing far worse and just annoying entry for people trying to come into the country. They have been imprisoning and exporting people to countries that they have never been to before see for example the Australian woman who was disappeared to El Salvador.
seriously, some of you have not been keeping up with what’s actually going on like what the fuck
Actually many of us are. And understanding the circumstances in which these things are occuring is important for knowing how to protect yourself and others from it. Misinformation and fear-mongering helps no one. Not saying it's safe to cross the border, not a snowball's chance in hell I'd consider that right now, just saying maybe don't assume everything is exactly how it's being reported. Propaganda goes both ways.
It's not the refusing entry that I'd be concerned about. It's the fishing expedition for social media comments to use as an excuse to detain me for days or weeks at a time.
https://www.npr.org/2025/04/02/nx-s1-5341465/jasmine-mooney-canadian-actress-ice-detention
Are you sure all they can do.is refuse entry? Cause this happened in april
Did that happen at a Canada-US border crossing? No. It did not. Want to find any example of that happening on this side of the country, to typical visitors that don't apply for any visa whatsoever?
Literally irrelevant. They can and will detain travellers. The US is one of the most dangerous countriea to travel to rn
Another reason to never fucking go there, thanks!
Shouldn’t be going over anyhow. Let em cook.
Not a problem if you don't go there.
I mean the only people allowed in can't have said anything bad online about the right for the last five years. So I wasn't planning to go anyways.
So the vast majority of Canadians will not be photographed. Good stuff.
Just don’t go there unless you have to. Trump‘s turned it into what he calls a shit hole country . The guy has the opposite of the Midas touch everything he touches turns to shit.
Mierdas touch.
** slow clap ** 👏
Not traveling to the US anytime soon.
Are we doing the same to them?
How will they take a photo leaving the country? Particularly via Land borders? Air and Sea ports I can understand Particularly if flying into Canada from thr US- or coming via sea from the US. But to take a photo of everyone leaving would mean either getting the Canadian border to share data, photos and fingerprints on every car and truck crossing the border; or setting up their own exit booth at each border.
I would hope that we would only share public data (license plate, general passport info, etc) and the second option is wildly expensive like billions of dollars expensive.....to say nothing of their southern border.
Afaik they don't have exit controls at airports either, and US airports aren't really set up to have exit controls as they generally mix international and domestic gates in the same terminal.
Oh, you can have a photo of my "exit" alright.
They already do…..
And we photograph people when they arrive in Canada. Does nobody remember the basic receipts you hand to people as you exit?
It’s also a thing in lots of other places. And do any trusted traveller system.
Hell, in the US it’s been normal for years to board a domestic plane by doing facial recognition instead of scanning/showing id. Totally automated.
I’m gonna have to dig in, but at first glance this sounds like a nothing burger in terms of real change now.
I will not be setting foot in the USA, possibly forever. So, not a problem for me.
Canadians swimming the English Channel are also at risk. Hopefully similar numbers.
Hell no, we won't go!
I wonder how this will work for people travelling by car. Does the officer walk around with a camera? Or does everyone have to get out of the car and walk in to be photographed!
They can take a picture of me leaving and K.M.A. Oh wait, that would mean I went there in the first place. Nope, not until America starts speaking up for its citizens.
I will just wave hello from across the river.
As if the ICEstappo ever needed photos to illegally arrest or detain anybody. From anywhere
How will this work? Everyone has to get out of the vehicle and go inside to get photographed?
The numbers of reasons not to go there is in triple digits.
You have to take a photo now at those customs booths in Canada at the airport.
This is a non story. This already happens in every country aside from ones without well guarded borders. Does anyone think there are not cameras at the airports, customs, etc?
Wait this wasn’t standard before. Was all their travel just behind the rest of the world.
Feel like this has been the norm for coming into Canada for a while now
Also if you did any of their pre check to speed up travel they have already done this since Covid
It's a rage bait article.
I'm old enough for topless pics to be a punishment. Have fun.
I don’t endorse travel to Gilead but they already capture your face like all countries upon entry
all of the border crossing points i’ve gone through (Lewiston, Peace and Rainbow) all take your photo.
I did this about a decade ago.
Hmmm, bot really planning to go to a shait hole country anyway
I mean, I'm sure it was already happening but to come out and say it outright? The US can get fucked. If they want to treat Canadians like we're some kind of security threat then they can fuck right off.
bUt WhY aReNt ThE cAnAdIaNs CoMiNg HeRe AnD sPeNdInG mOnEy AnYmOrE?
They are already doing this at airports.
That’s been going on for a while hasn’t it. I remember getting scanned a few years ago
Free copies ?
I mean, they’ve been doing that at airports for well over a decade, so…how is this any different? Your passport is already on file too
They will just make the matches to ALL THE META data Zuckerberg sent and the new data mining that Meta glasses will generate with the sale of Ray Ban glasses. Huge surveillance operations. , as well as all the files that MUSK made off with. Every single US citizen personal files were captured by Elon Musk. Photos and Fingerprints will just build the already existing profile we have.
I passed the border yesterday at YVR. They did photograph me, and then used the same face id for the scanner at the gate. I didn't have to scan my boarding pass, it just read my face.
As much as I'm not in sync with a lot of the US policies and procedures right now, having a better record of who enters your country is a good idea.
One more reason not to go to the US.
I’m camera shy. I’ll just avoid crossing the border , and fly over to Mexico
Ok. Load a bus of 16 and 17 year olds. Find out where camera is. All them strip. America now in possession of child porn. We arrest them all. Winning
You don't stop at the American border when crossing into Canada. Are the Canadians going to do it for them ?
I’m not against this on principle. Other countries do it at their border crossings too. But of course in the context of the current US authoritarian regime speedrun, it can only be seen as a means to a shitty end.
A friend of mine would joke that he was visiting the US before it crumbles when vacationing there. It turned out strangely prophetic.
who's travelling to the US?
Went across the border today near Windsor/Detroit by car. If I didn't have to go I wouldn't have gone. It was a total nightmare. Basically every Canadian car was asked to turn into a separate parking area to await a thorough car search and to speak to an agent who was definitely trained in bullying tactics.
Clickbait story. Already happens travelling to most other countries, including all of the EU.
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travelling via air and use the NEXUS booth, you need to take pictures before customs. so nothing new.