Electing Pedos to lead the nation, at least. In all manner of positions of power, really, since corporations literally control which candidate is able to run/wins etc
As someone who lives in Canada and has a US employer I kind of take exception to this take.
We can rely on them for jobs. At the very least.
Many, MANY Canadians still work for US based companies while living in Canada and while I get the desire to just blanket dislike all things American currently I still think we should recognize for various financial and economic reasons many of here are working for American firms with mostly American clients.
We may just be a cheaper and reliable labour market for them, but let's recognize still how dependant we are on them to keep the lights on for many of us.
We shouldn't be extending expensive patents for them anymore. We need to start beefing up our pharmaceutical processing powers and making more immunization research facilities.
I'm sure we can rely on the people, hospitals and smaller institutions not run by the feds but we need to be more self reliant and pump funding into poaching researchers who want to flee.
This would have been an excellent idea except that instead we decided to appeal to our own nativists by crashing all the foreign student programs so now universities have no funding to hire new labs.
Faculties of education are, on average, running 80% part time course instructors for 20% full time tenure track profs… Our education system is being gutted from the top and the bottom nation wide
The people we want to attract as students are still eligible via PhD and MA programs or they can apply through express entry categories. There are targeted draws and programs for healthcare.
The provinces are the main driver of this issue. The feds had to overstep jurisdictional lines to cap students because provinces were not funding schools and institutions were abusing the system in order to make record breaking profits. Anyone who applies to come to Canada to study with a study permit can only be processed if they had an acceptance from an institution. The onus is on the DLI to check to make sure the student is qualified for the program, not immigration officers. Immigration officers only process based on the federal criteria and check for inadmissibility.
We are still accepting many many international students at our top universities and colleges for all programs.
It's not the students the other poster was talking about, nor me. It's the faculty. But the universities need to be in proper fiscal shape to recruit. We intentionally caused a round of cost-cutting at exactly the time that they would want to be recruiting Americans.
Given provincial underfunding, the best lever the feds can pull is to bring in more students.
What I am trying to say is, respectfully, something that should be entirely obvious: you can't "poach" American researchers because we're cutting the budgets of the institutions who would do that.
We have intentionally cut off a major revenue source for all universities in this country when we reduced the number of foreign students.
So it's, again respectfully, not very smart to think that they're going to go out aggressively recruiting American talent at the very moment we've intentionally cut their budgets. They're going to be focused on downsizing instead. Because that's what we told them to do. All that top talent will have to flow somewhere else, off this continent.
Why have we then already poached top American researchers in the humanities like Timothy Snyder who is now at UofT? Carney already said they're focusing on poaching h1b students, but not all researchers land in universities. They can work for private companies, the public service, hospitals, and probably many other places.
We also built an entirely new immigration stream for healthcare workers which I'm expecting will attract American healthcare workers and researchers given this article.
Respectfully, I don't think your argument makes sense. Funding will always be there if top American minds want to immigrate to Canada.
Because poli sci professors are cheap. They don't require labs. They just need an office and maybe a couple extra journal subscriptions in the library, although a place like U of T presumably already has that covered.
Where is this "poaching" of yours going to take place?
Anyhow, the fact that you can name three (I'm guessing?) political scientists and historians recruited by one Canadian university kind of goes to prove that we're not exactly in a position to take in a deluge. The primary means we have to attract top existing researchers is universities. And those are being cut to appease anti-immigration people. There is simply no way to overlook this or get around it. If you want to poach top American researchers then we need our universities to be in a place where they can recruit those researchers.
You're obsessed with universities when that's one of several routes people can take? Also for any of the top researchers and scientists that would want to flee to a Canadian university, they would make sure the funding is there for them if that's where they wanted to land. I don't think you realize how much these people make off articles and research for the university's they're stationed at. The amount they would bring in with international funding, talks, talent at the graduate student level would mean universities would move money around or find a private investor to donate.
Make off articles?? None. Academic journals generally don't pay. Public intellectuals like Snyder may be high-profile but are doing basically nothing to advance their respective fields of study.
The funding isn't there. Because the universities are cutting back.
What kind of conservative Victorian silliness is this, "oh, well, we don't need the public funding because private charity can cover anything really necessary."
Correct. The foreign researchers are the people the universities hire as professors, using the money they get from the foreign students. Cuts to one mean cuts to the other.
By "diploma mills" you mean basically every single publicly funded university in Canada there. They all rely on foreign students for revenue. Or at least, they used to until you geniuses had a bright idea.
Conestoga College and St Francis Xavier are the same, to me.
The solution - for the sake of housing remaining affordable and entry level jobs actually being available - isn't to fire up more store front colleges, it's restoring provincial funding
You're deliberately conflating Canadian research universities with the colleges that made taking in (largely unqualified) international students their entire buisness model. I don't really feel like continuing this, have a good night man
Ahh, but we (and they) have relied heavily on research being done at universities -- students and professors -- working hard on important medical problems. Remember Banting and Best.
Now some provinces are cutting PSE funding, banning foreign students, basically killing research, potential innovation and discovery.
It isn't just the U.S. that has become unreliable. We have at least two very unreliable provincial governments right now.
It’s kinda taken too long for this penny to drop. I think this is likely to be another area where we need to align our drug and health guidance, and the underlying research it depends on, with European sources.
It's why our research and development went from being one of the best in the world to a massive brain drain under Harper selling us out to privatization. We had and still continue to have some of the best medical minds in the world especially at our universities and we keep losing them because we allowed this partnership with the US to destroy our industry in favour of supporting theirs.
Allowing a global superpower to provide services to us at a lower cost to them will always undermine our economy and push our any Canadian innovation in favour of funding theirs.
You aren't wrong, particularly about Harper. Myself and everyone I knew getting a PhD (genetics, cognitive science, organic chem) in the 90s wound up going into other fields when they pulled all the funding and neutered NSERC grants. We all thought we'd come back and hey back on the pure research in a few years after sanity prevailed... Thirty years later, nothing's changed and not one of us has.
No shit Sherlock - you'd have to be pretty slow to have not concluded that when Captain Brain Worms became the lead health representative and started fucking with immunization guidelines.
In the future the FDA will probably decide which drugs to certify by requiring the pharma company to found a special cryptocoin for that drug. Whichever 30% of the coins grow most over two years get approved.
The government just “announced $1.7 billion to launch the Canada Global Impact+ Research Talent Initiative, a suite of programs that will attract leading international researchers to Canada, as outlined in Budget 2025.
This initiative represents one of the largest recruitment programs of its kind globally, uniquely designed for exceptional speed and flexibility in securing top research talent. These features will ensure Canada remains at the forefront of scientific innovation.”
Minister Marjorie Michel is not wrong. Given that lunitics are in charge in the US, and RFK is reforming American healthcare in the name of pseudoscience, I think RFK is doing what some US politicians have been pushing for all along, though he is just more committed.
Post-COVID, I thought we planned to set up labs right here in Canada to develop our own vaccines and respond to National Security-related threats. Has that goal fizzled out since Trudeau left office?
Has anyone noticed an uptick in patients in hospital waiting rooms who are dying because they did not receive timely or accurate assessments or were outright ignored?
That is excellent information. At present, my concern is the avian flu we seem to have, along with emerging variants in the USA. Thank you for sharing. I am grateful.
Isn't that only because our government is stuck on traditional science though? Under RFK the new scients down there has been progressing in leeks and bonds. They don't even need vaccines down there anymore because children will be fed beef tallow and blue food dye which might prevent lots of things. I am really excited about the daily ivermectin supplements scheduled to start next year. Even if there are some formally preventable diseases that slick through the craps there, you're hearse will have never felled better.
Source: am self-educated PHd-level microbiologist.
I genuinely have no problem with gullible right-wingers thinking that beef tallow and lard are healthy replacements for vegetable oils. I encourage them, actually. The sooner they have their heart-attacks, the better.
We're going to have to rely on ourselves and other countries that use science based health solutions and not like on the following video from Monty Python's 'The Holy Grail'.
We used to have very good gasoline, the best gasoline, all thanks to lead. Many people are saying we should go back and my administration is studying that very strongly. Just the other day the military came to me and they said, "Sir, the lead-free gasoline is a serious national security problem." By the way we are going to be taking over Greenland soon, we also need that for the national security. But anyway, the gas, we are probably going to be looking at putting the lead back into the gas and putting it in very powerfully. They've actually offered to name one of the mines after me so I'm a very big fan of lead, some would say the biggest fan.
We're going to be putting a very large tariff on foreign lead though, to protect American lead mines. Very, very large. I expect our lead tariff will actually pay for the entire cost of the new lead additives so gas prices won't even go up. The failing New York Times will say lead is dangerous, but that's fake news. Look at me, I grew up in the age of leaded gas and I have great genes.
Why would we trust a country that fumbled COVID so badly and then stole the PPE that we had purchased from them before-hand? The same country that now has the World's stupidest individual, Robert F. Kennedy, at the lead for that country's health? The same country that is now A-OK with allowing harmful chemicals and substances BACK into the food chain and environment?
Would not be surprised if they decide to reintroduce Lead back into gasoline!
That's an understatement. I don't listen to anything that comes out of the CDC. I check with what our Canadian healthcare institutions say and European ones are trustworthy too. I don't know how you can even trust research coming out of a country that's gone so far into anti-science junk and conspiracy theories.
Most Americans are happy to trust them. What's not to trust? I always had a feeling about Tylenol. And maybe ivernmectin won't cure everything, but at least your horse will feel better. Who's to say how much of modern medicine is actually necessary in a society of 300 million until we've tried doing without it?
And what exactly can you rely on in Canada? MAID as one of your first two options?
Just another empty headline so liberals/leftists can feel good about themselves shitting all over everything the United States does while completely ignoring Canada's massive shortcomings.
Um, I'd say you can't rely on US for anything anymore.
Exactly
Well you can rely on them for mis information, racist traits, being pedos etc
Electing Pedos to lead the nation, at least. In all manner of positions of power, really, since corporations literally control which candidate is able to run/wins etc
Electing a Pedo is tacitly approving of them, we all knew since the last time he's a pedo rapist and an idiot and they elected him a SECOND Time.
They're all complicit now.
Corporation control who run. Citizens control who wins.
With corporate PR pushing voters one way or the other by casually dropping hundreds of thousands of $ into media content intended to do the above.
Some say they never saw such pedo. The biggest pedo ever!
That’s not true. You can rely on them to continually export hatred and division, misinformation, the normalization of pedophilia…and war crimes…
You forgot to add: guns. They love exporting guns.
Legally or not.
Not even to keep their word
Yeah but the health minister is rightly staying in her lane and talking about what she knows
The rest of us can extrapolate
As someone who lives in Canada and has a US employer I kind of take exception to this take.
We can rely on them for jobs. At the very least.
Many, MANY Canadians still work for US based companies while living in Canada and while I get the desire to just blanket dislike all things American currently I still think we should recognize for various financial and economic reasons many of here are working for American firms with mostly American clients.
We may just be a cheaper and reliable labour market for them, but let's recognize still how dependant we are on them to keep the lights on for many of us.
We shouldn't be extending expensive patents for them anymore. We need to start beefing up our pharmaceutical processing powers and making more immunization research facilities.
I'm sure we can rely on the people, hospitals and smaller institutions not run by the feds but we need to be more self reliant and pump funding into poaching researchers who want to flee.
This would have been an excellent idea except that instead we decided to appeal to our own nativists by crashing all the foreign student programs so now universities have no funding to hire new labs.
Fully trained researchers are not students.
The students pay the teachers' salaries. Have you not noticed the job cuts over the past year??
Can't be many universities eagerly looking to recruit a bunch of new faculty at a moment when enrollment is sharply declining.
At the federal level, Canada just increased its funding to universities so that more researchers can be hired. This Reuters article notes that the goal this year is to attract 1000 top-talent international researchers. https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/article/canadian-universities-aim-to-attract-top-global-scholars-with-funding-boost/
Faculties of education are, on average, running 80% part time course instructors for 20% full time tenure track profs… Our education system is being gutted from the top and the bottom nation wide
That was true even before the recent glut of foreign students.
The people we want to attract as students are still eligible via PhD and MA programs or they can apply through express entry categories. There are targeted draws and programs for healthcare.
The provinces are the main driver of this issue. The feds had to overstep jurisdictional lines to cap students because provinces were not funding schools and institutions were abusing the system in order to make record breaking profits. Anyone who applies to come to Canada to study with a study permit can only be processed if they had an acceptance from an institution. The onus is on the DLI to check to make sure the student is qualified for the program, not immigration officers. Immigration officers only process based on the federal criteria and check for inadmissibility.
We are still accepting many many international students at our top universities and colleges for all programs.
Conestoga College* watching this post intensely 👀
*Edit: Conestoga Administrators
It's not the students the other poster was talking about, nor me. It's the faculty. But the universities need to be in proper fiscal shape to recruit. We intentionally caused a round of cost-cutting at exactly the time that they would want to be recruiting Americans.
Given provincial underfunding, the best lever the feds can pull is to bring in more students.
I don't know what you're trying to say. But I did indicate they can apply for express entry.
What I am trying to say is, respectfully, something that should be entirely obvious: you can't "poach" American researchers because we're cutting the budgets of the institutions who would do that.
We have intentionally cut off a major revenue source for all universities in this country when we reduced the number of foreign students.
So it's, again respectfully, not very smart to think that they're going to go out aggressively recruiting American talent at the very moment we've intentionally cut their budgets. They're going to be focused on downsizing instead. Because that's what we told them to do. All that top talent will have to flow somewhere else, off this continent.
Why have we then already poached top American researchers in the humanities like Timothy Snyder who is now at UofT? Carney already said they're focusing on poaching h1b students, but not all researchers land in universities. They can work for private companies, the public service, hospitals, and probably many other places.
We also built an entirely new immigration stream for healthcare workers which I'm expecting will attract American healthcare workers and researchers given this article.
Respectfully, I don't think your argument makes sense. Funding will always be there if top American minds want to immigrate to Canada.
Because poli sci professors are cheap. They don't require labs. They just need an office and maybe a couple extra journal subscriptions in the library, although a place like U of T presumably already has that covered.
Where is this "poaching" of yours going to take place?
Anyhow, the fact that you can name three (I'm guessing?) political scientists and historians recruited by one Canadian university kind of goes to prove that we're not exactly in a position to take in a deluge. The primary means we have to attract top existing researchers is universities. And those are being cut to appease anti-immigration people. There is simply no way to overlook this or get around it. If you want to poach top American researchers then we need our universities to be in a place where they can recruit those researchers.
You're obsessed with universities when that's one of several routes people can take? Also for any of the top researchers and scientists that would want to flee to a Canadian university, they would make sure the funding is there for them if that's where they wanted to land. I don't think you realize how much these people make off articles and research for the university's they're stationed at. The amount they would bring in with international funding, talks, talent at the graduate student level would mean universities would move money around or find a private investor to donate.
Make off articles?? None. Academic journals generally don't pay. Public intellectuals like Snyder may be high-profile but are doing basically nothing to advance their respective fields of study.
The funding isn't there. Because the universities are cutting back.
What kind of conservative Victorian silliness is this, "oh, well, we don't need the public funding because private charity can cover anything really necessary."
Not surprised that it's in this sub that I find contributors shilling for the diploma mills.
Yes, "diploma mills" like UBC, U of T... get rid of those first!
the "students" at the diploma mills and foreign researchers (the guys getting the SSHRC/NSERC type grants) are not the same people, come off it
Correct. The foreign researchers are the people the universities hire as professors, using the money they get from the foreign students. Cuts to one mean cuts to the other.
By "diploma mills" you mean basically every single publicly funded university in Canada there. They all rely on foreign students for revenue. Or at least, they used to until you geniuses had a bright idea.
Conestoga College and St Francis Xavier are the same, to me.
The solution - for the sake of housing remaining affordable and entry level jobs actually being available - isn't to fire up more store front colleges, it's restoring provincial funding
Conestoga College and St Francis Xavier are the same, to me.
Anyone whose opinion on educational policy starts with this statement should probably go and have a think.
You're deliberately conflating Canadian research universities with the colleges that made taking in (largely unqualified) international students their entire buisness model. I don't really feel like continuing this, have a good night man
Okay but what if Carney thinks we should cut as many government jobs as he can get away with instead? Does that help?
Ahh, but we (and they) have relied heavily on research being done at universities -- students and professors -- working hard on important medical problems. Remember Banting and Best.
Now some provinces are cutting PSE funding, banning foreign students, basically killing research, potential innovation and discovery.
It isn't just the U.S. that has become unreliable. We have at least two very unreliable provincial governments right now.
It’s kinda taken too long for this penny to drop. I think this is likely to be another area where we need to align our drug and health guidance, and the underlying research it depends on, with European sources.
It's why our research and development went from being one of the best in the world to a massive brain drain under Harper selling us out to privatization. We had and still continue to have some of the best medical minds in the world especially at our universities and we keep losing them because we allowed this partnership with the US to destroy our industry in favour of supporting theirs.
Allowing a global superpower to provide services to us at a lower cost to them will always undermine our economy and push our any Canadian innovation in favour of funding theirs.
You aren't wrong, particularly about Harper. Myself and everyone I knew getting a PhD (genetics, cognitive science, organic chem) in the 90s wound up going into other fields when they pulled all the funding and neutered NSERC grants. We all thought we'd come back and hey back on the pure research in a few years after sanity prevailed... Thirty years later, nothing's changed and not one of us has.
No shit Sherlock - you'd have to be pretty slow to have not concluded that when Captain Brain Worms became the lead health representative and started fucking with immunization guidelines.
In the future the FDA will probably decide which drugs to certify by requiring the pharma company to found a special cryptocoin for that drug. Whichever 30% of the coins grow most over two years get approved.
We need to get LifeLabs back into Canadian hands. Why is our health data owned by the usa?
Let’s stop trusting their FDA who knows what’s going on with all that food we import.
We never should be.
Me, looking at the
aggressive population reductiontactics employed south of the border: "Neat, huh, don't bring that shit here"US Health Institutions????
Ultraviolet Colonoscopys and Lysol Injections??
NO KIDDING
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAZvxyM9sfo
Yeah, their Health and Human Services Secretary is very pro-disease
Health minister saysCanada can’t rely on U.S.health institutionsanymoreThe only thing we can rely on the US for is that they will be giant assholes and they might want to invade us.
The government just “announced $1.7 billion to launch the Canada Global Impact+ Research Talent Initiative, a suite of programs that will attract leading international researchers to Canada, as outlined in Budget 2025.
This initiative represents one of the largest recruitment programs of its kind globally, uniquely designed for exceptional speed and flexibility in securing top research talent. These features will ensure Canada remains at the forefront of scientific innovation.”
Government of Canada launches new initiative to recruit world-leading researchers
They probably cost universities more than that by crashing the foreign student numbers.
It’s about time.
Americans can't even rely on US health care ffs.
Minister Marjorie Michel is not wrong. Given that lunitics are in charge in the US, and RFK is reforming American healthcare in the name of pseudoscience, I think RFK is doing what some US politicians have been pushing for all along, though he is just more committed.
Post-COVID, I thought we planned to set up labs right here in Canada to develop our own vaccines and respond to National Security-related threats. Has that goal fizzled out since Trudeau left office?
Has anyone noticed an uptick in patients in hospital waiting rooms who are dying because they did not receive timely or accurate assessments or were outright ignored?
That's already been done. We have vaccines produced in Canada for COVID. This was accomplished before JT even left.
That is excellent information. At present, my concern is the avian flu we seem to have, along with emerging variants in the USA. Thank you for sharing. I am grateful.
Isn't that only because our government is stuck on traditional science though? Under RFK the new scients down there has been progressing in leeks and bonds. They don't even need vaccines down there anymore because children will be fed beef tallow and blue food dye which might prevent lots of things. I am really excited about the daily ivermectin supplements scheduled to start next year. Even if there are some formally preventable diseases that slick through the craps there, you're hearse will have never felled better.
Source: am self-educated PHd-level microbiologist.
O rly?
There’s no relying on the Pirates of the Caribbean for anything anymore
That's an insult to Pirates of the Carribean. LOL
We never should have.
I genuinely have no problem with gullible right-wingers thinking that beef tallow and lard are healthy replacements for vegetable oils. I encourage them, actually. The sooner they have their heart-attacks, the better.
And yet:
Canada Gazette, Part 1, Volume 159, Number 51: Order Providing for Reliance on Decisions of, or Documents Produced by, Foreign Regulatory Authorities in Respect of Certain Drugs https://gazette.gc.ca/rp-pr/p1/2025/2025-12-20/html/reg4-eng.html
We're going to have to rely on ourselves and other countries that use science based health solutions and not like on the following video from Monty Python's 'The Holy Grail'.
https://youtu.be/FirWKqP7wNU?si=IO5FEodZVpn0ypNv
We used to have very good gasoline, the best gasoline, all thanks to lead. Many people are saying we should go back and my administration is studying that very strongly. Just the other day the military came to me and they said, "Sir, the lead-free gasoline is a serious national security problem." By the way we are going to be taking over Greenland soon, we also need that for the national security. But anyway, the gas, we are probably going to be looking at putting the lead back into the gas and putting it in very powerfully. They've actually offered to name one of the mines after me so I'm a very big fan of lead, some would say the biggest fan.
We're going to be putting a very large tariff on foreign lead though, to protect American lead mines. Very, very large. I expect our lead tariff will actually pay for the entire cost of the new lead additives so gas prices won't even go up. The failing New York Times will say lead is dangerous, but that's fake news. Look at me, I grew up in the age of leaded gas and I have great genes.
Why would we trust a country that fumbled COVID so badly and then stole the PPE that we had purchased from them before-hand? The same country that now has the World's stupidest individual, Robert F. Kennedy, at the lead for that country's health? The same country that is now A-OK with allowing harmful chemicals and substances BACK into the food chain and environment?
Would not be surprised if they decide to reintroduce Lead back into gasoline!
That's an understatement. I don't listen to anything that comes out of the CDC. I check with what our Canadian healthcare institutions say and European ones are trustworthy too. I don't know how you can even trust research coming out of a country that's gone so far into anti-science junk and conspiracy theories.
Pretty sure most 'Muricans can't either
Most Americans are happy to trust them. What's not to trust? I always had a feeling about Tylenol. And maybe ivernmectin won't cure everything, but at least your horse will feel better. Who's to say how much of modern medicine is actually necessary in a society of 300 million until we've tried doing without it?
They mean in the sense that their scientific results are cooked
And what exactly can you rely on in Canada? MAID as one of your first two options?
Just another empty headline so liberals/leftists can feel good about themselves shitting all over everything the United States does while completely ignoring Canada's massive shortcomings.
You have to be an American or a bot lol.