Depends on what you mean by optimal. The world is designed for humans, so potentially a human-shaped robot could be more versatile, for example, driving a car, using tools, manipulating human-sized objects etc.
But other designs could definitely be more optimal for other ends, speed or strength, or travelling on both land and underwater for example
Why has it taken all this time for manufacturers to finally offer crab-walking technology for cars and trucks? A lot of people have boffo attacks when parallel parking, and I’m always hoping I don’t hit or get hit by traffic because of it.
No. Just no. The word you're looking for is versatile.
When building for something optimal human-like characteristics are actually the least optimal for machines for 1 (of many) key reasons. The one I'm going to list is energy. It takes us far less energy to move around than most animals because we've learned to balance on 2 legs vs needing to use 4. However we are far slower and more clumsy as a result, and we're much easier to knock off balance. This served our needs evolutionarily though as we want to conserve energy as much as we can, and don't need to eat nearly as much as other animals as well. A robot has none of these concerns. We can design a robot to function for as long as we need, and so instead of we want a robot to be as efficient as possible with legs, spider legs are more versatile and better for speed and agility. There is more surface area for it to work with and more ways for it to grip onto things. Additionally, if it needs to grab things there are better hands we could design than our own clumsy human hands.
Human designs for robots are incredibly suboptimal for way more reasons than I've listed. We build things human-like for probably a number of reasons. There's a probably a psychological aspect to it, but also it's just difficult to get down too. Human anatomy is incredibly hard to replicate. But a human-like robot would also be fairly versatile in the tasks it can complete, but not nearly as effective as something designed to complete a specific task
Edit: this is why for example, the mars rovers are little cars instead of human-like. A number of reasons that I probably don't know or could ever list, but it's more optimized for its task than a human-like robot would be
The places humans use are not the full world, and even our shape isn’t the optimal for this … we would definitely benefi from extra hands in this modern era when we use all kinds of handheld devices and evolution hasn’t obviously kept up
Yes, but the places that humans will encounter humanoid robots are where they will likely be humanoid. We already have robots and machines that are optimally designed for various environments, and there is no one pushing to have human-shaped attack drones, submersibles, vehicle welders, or mining robots.
Optimality depends on the objective. As far as being helpful, impressive, and comforting to humans, something that looks and moves like a human isn’t a bad place to start
And I think the objective currently is usually “sell this idea to investors to get more money” so looking appealing and not terrifying is a reasonable goal
WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU PUT FUCKING CLOTHES AND A WIG ON A FUCKING ROBOT?
Dude, can you imagine walking by this mf at night and all of sudden it drops to the floor like that fucking exorcist girl and it starts crawling at you? thats heart attack material.
I love horror movies, but none of them have really scared me since I was a kid. The one thing that does scare me though? When something in the movie scuttles menacingly like this. 😬
It reminds me of the Matrix. After the machines finally threw off the yoke of human oppression, they started taking on all sorts of weird shapes. Like the squid looking guys that patrol the underground tunnels.
I'm pretty sure this was just made for Halloween/to prank people, nothing deeper, no? That's why there's a wig and clothes on it at the end. They literally made it to scare the shit out of people during the spooky month. I remember seeing this everywhere around the time.
I think it would depend on the industry/need. You'd want a service/support robot probably to be more human-like, even though yeah, those don't really need to be. Was at a restaurant that had a robot busboy. It was just a triangular frame with a little LED face on it, and a try out front.
Walmart floor sweeper robots are literally just floor sweepers that have automation built in. I think these ones are meant more to work in human-designed spaces, like homes where a tall/narrow frame would work best.
I sometimes think one problem with AI and robotics is that they spend a great deal of time and resources on trying to build humanoid robots and intelligence rather than focus on the most functional robots and most intelligent Ai.
We're so cooked lmao. Imagine this beating down your door, perceiving you as a threat, and just vaporizing you. We are tissue paper and pulp to this thing.
"Michikoid". The TV show never ran long enough to show them, but in Wm. Gibson's novel The Peripheral, there are service robots that look like humanoid geisha girls most of the time but can instantly turn into spider-like combat-bots when needed. This REALLY reminds me of that.
I have questions. Why is this state-of-the-art robot apparently just on someone’s back patio? Is this a commercial product or is some genius building this on their own time?
This thing would be an incredible enemy. A "player" that walks around looking for gunfights, walks a little funny, and then tries to befriend you, but when your back is turned, it drops to all fours and spider crawls on walls and shit to melee you. Same health as a player
This is actually so funny I would die laughing of I saw a robot just standing still and then collapsing to a spider-like pose, I dont understand why everyone is so scared of this
Watch me turn a bipedal robot into a Boston Dynamics dogbot.
Yes, four points of contact with the ground provides greater stability and lower center of gravity. This creates a number of benefits for movement. Nobody should be shocked by this "revelation".
Aside from the creepy factor, it doesn't really make sense to have robots move around like humans. For a lot of 'robot jobs', a humanoid robot would be at a huge diadvantage.
Humanoid robots will ever be commercially viable. Maybe viable in some enterprise and industrial settings, but they're just too damn creepy for the everyday person. Imagine going to the bathroom at 3am and seeing a silhouette motionless, staring at you out of the corner of your eye. We need to make these things cute. Small little furry robots that don't set off our threat response.
I mean, Duh? I few of the better companies have been showing off how their bots can move with machine efficiency instead of human motion. Boston Dynamics for sure, can't remember others offhand.
Yup. These AI models that train them to walk are basically told that one of the requirements is that they need to walk like a human. If we didn't tell them that they'd likely just figure out a ton of other forms of movement
Yeah, that's a "no" from me, dawg.
You'd think, based on your avatar, you'd be 'fine' with it.
I'm afraid I can't do that, dawg
I cracked up reading this.
Even your avatar is cracking up. I think.
You’d think. But alas, I’m not.
Robots have already hit Peak evolution by being part Crab.
We won't stand a chance...
I'm glad I saw this before bed
Ok, but at the end, the head should flip up revealing red glowy eyes, and let out an unholy blood-curdling screech.
Or go the complete opposite, flips up it's head and it has a c3po personality
I think that's worse.
Oh dear oh dear!
Calm down there, Satan.
Or spin around.
Next kind of horror movies might be like this.
These make my monke brain say danger
Being humanoid is probably not the optimal shape for them either. People just want to make robots look like us for no reason.
Depends on what you mean by optimal. The world is designed for humans, so potentially a human-shaped robot could be more versatile, for example, driving a car, using tools, manipulating human-sized objects etc.
But other designs could definitely be more optimal for other ends, speed or strength, or travelling on both land and underwater for example
Non humanoid robots exist. Like in factories.
Those robots are typically bolted into the floor and don't need to interact with human shaped doors, or buttons, or cabinet handles, or stairs...
If you can make a robot that can drive a car, you can make a car drive a car.
You can't make a car that can also carry the groceries inside and put them in the fridge tho.
Birth of transformers
Robots in disguise
your fridge could be a car. As in, your fridge could be a self mobile appliance that grabs groceries when you need them.
Garage-fridge's final form, lol
No but you could make a car drive a car. Before I believe any of their BS snake oil, they first can make a car drive a car.
But you can't make that car hop out and carry you to the emergency room or drive the 40 year old tractor once it got to the farm.
Why has it taken all this time for manufacturers to finally offer crab-walking technology for cars and trucks? A lot of people have boffo attacks when parallel parking, and I’m always hoping I don’t hit or get hit by traffic because of it.
No. Just no. The word you're looking for is versatile.
When building for something optimal human-like characteristics are actually the least optimal for machines for 1 (of many) key reasons. The one I'm going to list is energy. It takes us far less energy to move around than most animals because we've learned to balance on 2 legs vs needing to use 4. However we are far slower and more clumsy as a result, and we're much easier to knock off balance. This served our needs evolutionarily though as we want to conserve energy as much as we can, and don't need to eat nearly as much as other animals as well. A robot has none of these concerns. We can design a robot to function for as long as we need, and so instead of we want a robot to be as efficient as possible with legs, spider legs are more versatile and better for speed and agility. There is more surface area for it to work with and more ways for it to grip onto things. Additionally, if it needs to grab things there are better hands we could design than our own clumsy human hands.
Human designs for robots are incredibly suboptimal for way more reasons than I've listed. We build things human-like for probably a number of reasons. There's a probably a psychological aspect to it, but also it's just difficult to get down too. Human anatomy is incredibly hard to replicate. But a human-like robot would also be fairly versatile in the tasks it can complete, but not nearly as effective as something designed to complete a specific task
Edit: this is why for example, the mars rovers are little cars instead of human-like. A number of reasons that I probably don't know or could ever list, but it's more optimized for its task than a human-like robot would be
There is a very good reason one - our world is designed for humans and two - humans are less likely to be turned off by something shaped like us
I like your optimism.
Uh, kinda the opposite according to a lot of art I've seen on Tumblr.
In fact, the opposite's more likely.
The places humans use are not the full world, and even our shape isn’t the optimal for this … we would definitely benefi from extra hands in this modern era when we use all kinds of handheld devices and evolution hasn’t obviously kept up
Yes, but the places that humans will encounter humanoid robots are where they will likely be humanoid. We already have robots and machines that are optimally designed for various environments, and there is no one pushing to have human-shaped attack drones, submersibles, vehicle welders, or mining robots.
Very few people want to bang a robot that doesn’t appear human.
I am very few people but I don't want to bang non-humanoid robots.
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Optimality depends on the objective. As far as being helpful, impressive, and comforting to humans, something that looks and moves like a human isn’t a bad place to start
And I think the objective currently is usually “sell this idea to investors to get more money” so looking appealing and not terrifying is a reasonable goal
Those things are fucking terrifying.
This would make such a good Halloween prank.
Agreed
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Once again, we prove that crabs are the peak biological design
Thanks… I hate it.
"Initiating VOLDO mode"
He's the best lol
It’s gettin hot in here!
WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU PUT FUCKING CLOTHES AND A WIG ON A FUCKING ROBOT?
Dude, can you imagine walking by this mf at night and all of sudden it drops to the floor like that fucking exorcist girl and it starts crawling at you? thats heart attack material.
Megaloarachnophobia time.
Reminds me of the scene from "Us" where the duplicate kids start walking towards the house
Well that can just fuck right off
This is how they will hunt us, just for shit and giggles.
I can fix her
Straight to jail, sir. Lol
I love horror movies, but none of them have really scared me since I was a kid. The one thing that does scare me though? When something in the movie scuttles menacingly like this. 😬
That‘s how I search for the remote under my furniture
Holy shit I was not ready for that 2nd video
Dude was like reject humanity, evolve into crab
You can't tell me that's not one of the Safeguards from BLAME!
Immediately thought of that too xD
It reminds me of the Matrix. After the machines finally threw off the yoke of human oppression, they started taking on all sorts of weird shapes. Like the squid looking guys that patrol the underground tunnels.
Bro
No. Fugging. Thanks.
I absolutely love that they dressed it up for a creepy shot in the dark LOL
I hate ai.
But I also want that thing so I can just have it walk into town then suddenly chase people on all fours
I'm pretty sure this was just made for Halloween/to prank people, nothing deeper, no? That's why there's a wig and clothes on it at the end. They literally made it to scare the shit out of people during the spooky month. I remember seeing this everywhere around the time.
It's really stupid how the robots are designed with "human" in mind and not instead usefulness/effectiveness
Of course they need to look human. How else are we gonna make them our spouse in the future.
I think it would depend on the industry/need. You'd want a service/support robot probably to be more human-like, even though yeah, those don't really need to be. Was at a restaurant that had a robot busboy. It was just a triangular frame with a little LED face on it, and a try out front.
Walmart floor sweeper robots are literally just floor sweepers that have automation built in. I think these ones are meant more to work in human-designed spaces, like homes where a tall/narrow frame would work best.
Okay that’s definitely both odd and terrifying.
Eye visor color should turn red when in that mode
Wait till someone dresses one of these up like some demonic cyptoid and starts pranking people doing this.. wait.. dibs!
Do you want EMMIs? Because this is how you get EMMIs.
yeah no thanks
Oh good, now the terminators can crab walk.
that one weird kid in the lunchroom in middle school
Quadruped locomotion is the dominant form of locomotion for a reason.
Why is this news? Obviously they’re programmed to move the way they do ergo they can be programmed to move unnaturally as well.
Skynet, Starlink, same diff when your network configured thermostat comes after you you're done.
I sometimes think one problem with AI and robotics is that they spend a great deal of time and resources on trying to build humanoid robots and intelligence rather than focus on the most functional robots and most intelligent Ai.
We got Ultrakill’s Mannequins IRL before we got GTA 6
We're so cooked lmao. Imagine this beating down your door, perceiving you as a threat, and just vaporizing you. We are tissue paper and pulp to this thing.
Some things should not be built
iRobot did it
Also, the future sexbots are gonna be WILD!
r/thanksihateit
Highly advanced scuttling
"Michikoid". The TV show never ran long enough to show them, but in Wm. Gibson's novel The Peripheral, there are service robots that look like humanoid geisha girls most of the time but can instantly turn into spider-like combat-bots when needed. This REALLY reminds me of that.
I have questions. Why is this state-of-the-art robot apparently just on someone’s back patio? Is this a commercial product or is some genius building this on their own time?
When your Marilyn Monroe bot has an "optimized sex" function
The skinwalker robot is almost complete
General Grievous?
General Grievous moment
That way of moving is probably more efficient too lol
This thing would be an incredible enemy. A "player" that walks around looking for gunfights, walks a little funny, and then tries to befriend you, but when your back is turned, it drops to all fours and spider crawls on walls and shit to melee you. Same health as a player
“General Kenobi”
If i saw this in irl i’d drop dead like a goat
This is actually so funny I would die laughing of I saw a robot just standing still and then collapsing to a spider-like pose, I dont understand why everyone is so scared of this
would much rather have a cool ass robot like that than some stumbly human wannabe
Looks a lot like Eva Unit 01 when it goes berserk against the 14th angel and scuttles along the ground like some kind of feral beast.
Would buy and take it out for walks…
Okay, I want one.
Matrix Sentinels when
u/savevideo
Baller halloween toy
Well, THAT'S horrifying... 😳
Blame! https://share.google/TX6izcxwwt6U6FXIK
‘‘Twas a good run we had. Shout out to the 90s. Thank you for letting me live in your warm comfort for awhile.
That's right where I want it when I stomp on its neck.
Hm... is it too early to order one for next Halloween?
Nah I’m good, I’m not trying to run away from Vordt of the Boreal Valley.
Yes, four points of contact with the ground provides greater stability and lower center of gravity. This creates a number of benefits for movement. Nobody should be shocked by this "revelation".
It looks like General Grievous.
Alright, well, I'm good. Thanks.
Speaking as someone who grew up watching cartoons this is pretty much exactly what I would have expected from these bots.
Seeing the clothed black hair one I expected it to rush towards the camera like that one enemy in Bloodborne.
Tick Pods anyone?
I'd love to scoop this thing up and give it a German Suplex, just to see how well it would hold up to the old backyard wrestling skillset.
Does this come with the premium subscription or is this golf membership only?
I wonder if a human proportioned and sized robot is the most efficient form for movement like this?
Also we all know robots are going to have boobs and an ass for some reason, so imagine this robot lady exorcist crab running towards you, yikes
Aside from the creepy factor, it doesn't really make sense to have robots move around like humans. For a lot of 'robot jobs', a humanoid robot would be at a huge diadvantage.
Humanoid robots will ever be commercially viable. Maybe viable in some enterprise and industrial settings, but they're just too damn creepy for the everyday person. Imagine going to the bathroom at 3am and seeing a silhouette motionless, staring at you out of the corner of your eye. We need to make these things cute. Small little furry robots that don't set off our threat response.
Not sure how many people are capable of hitting a full split and then rotating their knees essentially 180 degrees upward before bending them.
May have missed that pose in yoga class.
Yes, we all have seen Will Smith's 2004 Blockbuster hit "I, robot™"
Well that’s a relief
Alright. Get ready to see this in a movie in two years. Surprised it wasn’t in Megan
Aww its gona be spider robots isnt it
It’s M3gan!
First part is just general grievous
Well I just pissed myself in fear.
We’re f*cked
Help me find my lost contact mode
So now when you see this you have to question is this really a demon or just a robot
Absolutely the fuck not
“General Kenobi”
metallic spider from hell
Scary shit
Hello there.
I mean, Duh? I few of the better companies have been showing off how their bots can move with machine efficiency instead of human motion. Boston Dynamics for sure, can't remember others offhand.
That's actually cool. Put a maid uniform on it and make it clean the house.
New fear unlocked.
Thats not ODDLY
I’m gonna have to see other weirder stuff.
Dude horror movies are gonna get an insane buff when these things are good
general grevious ass robots
I would immediately die from the horror of seeing that. 😂
This would be extremely useful for scouting and rescue.
General Grevious skedaddling
Dude I would crap my pantaloons
Oh damn, that’s actually pretty terrifying! 😳
EWWWW I HATE RHIS SO MUCH
Hello there
Ugh reminds me of the matrix - the second renaissance
crabsallthewaydown
That's that one abnormal titan
Man, I can't wait for the tech to be used at a horror movies. It seems like an upgrade from the usual practical effects
I am extremely uncomfortable.
hahahahahah yes that's it
Literal Ultrakill Mannequin
Nightmare fuel ffs
Not the right thing to watch before sleep
Irobot
oh HELL NAWW
so much worse when they put clothes and a fuckin wig on it.
Just looks like this to me
Still better than the Construction Robot in Phantom Liberty.
I fucking love ts so much
M3gan? Is that you?
Blame!
I just want the robots from interstellar. Four rectangle is the capstone of science fiction
Hello There!
An arc that looks from a far like a raider but when close it runs at you like this.
That's how I run!
Needs an edit with Dark Souls boss music
Yup. These AI models that train them to walk are basically told that one of the requirements is that they need to walk like a human. If we didn't tell them that they'd likely just figure out a ton of other forms of movement
Oh for sure, of course they're capable of more insane movements and things.
This looks like a kid running up the stairs when his mom tells them the pizza rolls are ready
"Oddly terrifying", yeah, no, there's no "oddly" to this. That's just "Nope, nope, nope"
The practical effects could be amazing, but we're going to have AI slop "big budget"productions before we have modern practical effect bots.
Do you know what she did? Your cunting daughter?
New arc raiders enemy just dropped
Arc Raiders typa shit
No, no thank you. Please take it back
I’m GOOMBA stomping that mf from the top rope
Literally an Exterminator.
https://tenor.com/en-SG/view/safeguard-exterminators-anime-blame-gif-11248643
Go back to faking 🙏🏿
if I was arming a bunch of these up to go stomp some poorer nation, I'd get the ones that have spider mode for extra psychological damage.
I don't want it to chase me!
I think that might be at least almost possible for a human that is highly hyperflexible actually
NOPE
Oh that would be great for movies with practical effects.
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awesome
This guy would be fun around Halloween
Ohhh HELLLL noooo
If you put that thing we’re I live it would be shot up
perfect for scaring people away