I mean, that's not anthropomorphosis, it's just attributing words that are generally used in reference to humans (rape) to the same behavior in animals. Sex inflicted by one party onto another, non-consenting party is "rape" by definition.
Negative. Consent, and use of force against the will of the recipient, are seen throughout the animal kingdom. Easy example: a dog wants to be pet and so allows you to pet it (consent), vs. a dog does not want to be touched and you pet it anyway, and it snaps at you. Of course, animals wouldn't define these things as consent because they lack the language to do so, but that doesn't mean the concept itself isn't still the same.
Nah, now you're ascribing our societal views of consent to the concept as a whole. Consent is a simple concept, we complicate it by applying morals etc. Bodily autonomy is also an instinct for nealy all relatively intelligent creatures — try to hold a bird's wing down against its will, and it will flap and peck to get you to let go. And there's another example of consent; if the bird doesn't consent to being handled in that way, it will fight against it. Sex works very much the same way across the animal kingdom.
Look, clearly we are using different definitions of consent. You are using the broad simplistic term, I am using the ethics term. Neither definition is wrong, but we are clearly talking about different things. If you are saying animals can agree to things, then yes. I agree. If you are saying that animals have advanced sense of self beyond preservation instincts, then in most cases I disagree. We don't let children sign contracts because they aren't developed enough to give consent even though they are capable of agreeing to things. Children are still more mentally advanced than any other species.
None of which is actual anything to act like is “evil” of the birds. They are animals without the ability to comprehend good and evil. They just follow instincts.
We just follow instincts, too. I'm not saying birds have a concept of "good" and "evil" but we tend to minimize and underestimate the cognitive abilities of other animals.
Non human Animals do not have the concept of rape, and killing a rival in order to mate is instinct, nature isn’t kind nor is it fair. Humans however have the ‘capability’ of knowing the difference.
This is very true. Hopefully the kid ends up wanting to emulate bowerbirds and finds a love for building visually appealing structures:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satin_bowerbird
What? Evolved past what? I literally only was saying there is no alpha male anything, cause there isn’t. It don’t exist. Alpha males aren’t a thing in humans.
"And here we see the human vicenarians in their natural habitat; the night club. As the females dance erratically among themselves, the males look on from a distance. After a male imbibes enough fermented juice, he will strut confidently towards the females. Like the gazelle, the females flee, but will leave the more sickly members of the herd behind. The intoxicated pair stumble around each other inexpertly - a sure sign that they will later mate"
Could be worse
Id prefer him to dance like a Corvid than a Criminal.
Who needs a ballroom when nature is your stage.
Yep. Could be Andrew Tate and idiots like him. I have to wash my hands after typing the name of that repulsive thing.
Well, Andrew Taint wouldn't be teaching him about how to do his hair nice
That’s the entire point of the post?
Yes.
He could've been exposed to some alpha male shit.
To be fair that’s a solid strategy.
It's the dance that really does the trick.
Don't forget the shiny rocks
You say this as a joke, but I remember a nonzero number of people who got the social clout to date from homecoming dance.
Technically still some alpha male shit, just natural and nontoxic🤣
Nontoxic? I have bad news for you about how birds reproduce. Some rape, some kill other competing birds and so on.
Carful not to anthropomorphize.
I mean, that's not anthropomorphosis, it's just attributing words that are generally used in reference to humans (rape) to the same behavior in animals. Sex inflicted by one party onto another, non-consenting party is "rape" by definition.
Applying concepts like consent to animals is anthropomorphism.
Negative. Consent, and use of force against the will of the recipient, are seen throughout the animal kingdom. Easy example: a dog wants to be pet and so allows you to pet it (consent), vs. a dog does not want to be touched and you pet it anyway, and it snaps at you. Of course, animals wouldn't define these things as consent because they lack the language to do so, but that doesn't mean the concept itself isn't still the same.
Animals understand boundaries, not the far more complex concept of consent which deals with things like morals and bodily autonomy.
Nah, now you're ascribing our societal views of consent to the concept as a whole. Consent is a simple concept, we complicate it by applying morals etc. Bodily autonomy is also an instinct for nealy all relatively intelligent creatures — try to hold a bird's wing down against its will, and it will flap and peck to get you to let go. And there's another example of consent; if the bird doesn't consent to being handled in that way, it will fight against it. Sex works very much the same way across the animal kingdom.
Look, clearly we are using different definitions of consent. You are using the broad simplistic term, I am using the ethics term. Neither definition is wrong, but we are clearly talking about different things. If you are saying animals can agree to things, then yes. I agree. If you are saying that animals have advanced sense of self beyond preservation instincts, then in most cases I disagree. We don't let children sign contracts because they aren't developed enough to give consent even though they are capable of agreeing to things. Children are still more mentally advanced than any other species.
If you're implying rape isn't rape in the animal kingdom because animals can't sign contracts, then sure, you have a point.
Antropomorphize? Nature IS ugly...
None of which is actual anything to act like is “evil” of the birds. They are animals without the ability to comprehend good and evil. They just follow instincts.
We just follow instincts, too. I'm not saying birds have a concept of "good" and "evil" but we tend to minimize and underestimate the cognitive abilities of other animals.
Dolphins, for example. I have a sneaking suspicion that they're _just_ complex enough to have inner realization and those fuckers are just _evil_.
It’s nature…survival of the fittest
If me being toxic results in being able to reproduce with more women, then it's justified, right? Survival of the fittest
Non human Animals do not have the concept of rape, and killing a rival in order to mate is instinct, nature isn’t kind nor is it fair. Humans however have the ‘capability’ of knowing the difference.
Ducks and penguins
This comment gave me a flashback to an article about duck reproductive habits.
This is very true. Hopefully the kid ends up wanting to emulate bowerbirds and finds a love for building visually appealing structures: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satin_bowerbird
So… become an artist to get chicks?
Or an architect?
Eh, that is how most humans reproduce. Ever heard of “soft rape”?
Wtf do you mean by this
No it isn’t. Cause there is not, and never will be any type of alpha crap in humans. Ever.
Nah, the non-social and non-hierarchical species known as homo sapiens have simply evolved past all that.
What? Evolved past what? I literally only was saying there is no alpha male anything, cause there isn’t. It don’t exist. Alpha males aren’t a thing in humans.
Tell him to learn to dance from the riflebird.
https://youtu.be/dDsKHhx2dyo?si=hs7suGl1dMIZfgAM
Wave your wings in the air
Like you just don't care
Beak up, getcha freak up
All the lady birds just gonna sneak up
In human form, it looks like this
That was painful to watch.
Show him the documentary about birds of paradise with David Attenborough
It'll get him to clean his nest and learn to do the Zaouli dance.
Or collect the blue-est blueberries.
It’s called peacocking.
Tell him to keep his nest clean, that's important too.
Careful, there's a chance he might become a furry in the future
A feathery.
We call them Avians
Every time I see people dance, all I think of is bird mating documentaries. The soothing British narrator almost whispers in my head
"And here we see the human vicenarians in their natural habitat; the night club. As the females dance erratically among themselves, the males look on from a distance. After a male imbibes enough fermented juice, he will strut confidently towards the females. Like the gazelle, the females flee, but will leave the more sickly members of the herd behind. The intoxicated pair stumble around each other inexpertly - a sure sign that they will later mate"
does the Carnotaurus mating dance from Prehistoric Planet
All male Homo sapiens should court like the bower bird.
Dress all pretty, do your hair, do a little dance. That's the building blocks
Dress all pretty, do
Your hair, do a little dance.
That's the building blocks
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Get him some bee documentaries for balance or he’ll grow up weird.
There are many worse masculinities to emulate.
You and me baby ain't nothing but mammals.
He’s doing it like they do on the Discovery channel!
Just wait until he finds out about the Discovery channel.
:: The Bad Touch by Bloodhound Gang starts playing ::
Sir David Attenborough is going to narrate his prom night.
You and me baby ain't nothing but mammals, let's do it like they do on the discovery channel.
Show the young man a documentary about the Manakins, and you will never have to ask him to clean his room again!
You mean I'm not supposed to dance aggressively at women?
🤣🤣🤣Everything I know I learned from Mutual of Omaha Wild Kingdom & National Geographic specials!😛 RIP Jane💕
Hahaha it’s nature’s way!
They don't know it, but the Man-o-sphere got its whole deal basically the same way.
Not that they should have! But they definitely did.
Like Bevis and Butthead from the Ben Franklin documentary!
Good! This kid is going places.
learned a lot about human behavior through watching animal documentaries as a child.
Nothing "alpha" about caring about your appearance
Shouldn't be a problem. Lots of girls are into that these days. The grandkids might have some issues growing up though
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