This is exactly right, and also why I love to reread good books. I read Jane Eyre in 5th grade and again in high school. While I understood the words and the general plot when I was reading it as an 11 year old (or however old 5th graders are) I severely lacked the necessary social and cultural knowledge to really get the point of what those words and the subtext actually meant in the way that I did when I was 17. I’m sure if I read it again now at 27 I would feel similarly as I have grown and matured and continued to learn.
I recently did this. I'm in school to be a teacher so I'm passively building up a small classroom library whenever I see a book I liked at that age for a good price. I had some points from a second hand online book retailer after buying some textbooks, so I had about 4 free, under $5, book rewards so I got 4 of my favorite paper backs from when I was 10-12.
One of the books, I had read in my TAG reading club in 5th grade. It was called When You Reach Me by Rebecca Stead. The book has a lot to do with the racial climate of 1970s NYC and also heavily featured time travel. I could read the words on the page and understand them, and could understand the plot well enough to discuss it as a group. But it wasn't until I reread the book in my 20s, that I ACTUALLY understood the time travel elements and the racial context behind the story.
The difference between reading Slaughterhouse-Five as a sheltered high-schooler and again as an adult with difficult memories to look back on was astronomical for me
I feel like the adhd saved me from this hell. P sure im autistic also.
Whatvi mean is, i was a le to read above grade level. And I had a pretty fair understanding of topics above my grade level- preferred to talk with the adults bc kids my age perplexed me (classic audhd yeet). But I wouldn't read something if it didn't capture my attention, and what captured my attention was the kind of fiction, the types of stories, the escape from reality, that teen/YA lit provided. Didnt help me socialize butn I thinks thats more bc I read and didn't care for tv instead of how well I was reading and what I was reading.
Honestly I remember the days when people thought they were unique for reading Harry Potter despite it being one of the most popular books series of all time, it’s kinda refreshing to know that there’s always a bigger nlog
It grinds my gears when people equate being precocious with intelligence. They can and do oftentimes seem to go hand in hand, but, doing a thing early is not necessarily an indication of some superhuman, genius abilities.
So, my son learned his alphabet at 13 months old. Age 2, he read at an elementary school level. At 4, he could read practically anything.
However, he dislikes reading for enjoyment. He was a great student, got accepted into a nice university, has a career he loves. But, insofar as reading, one's peers do catch up. That's the important part. Doing something early is great, but unless you keep going on that upwards trajectory, the others acquire the same abilities.
It was delightful, this little guy reading the newspaper, sitting next to his grandpa. 😅😍 I'll admit that.
I mean Harry Potter isn't exactly light reading either. Not sure what their point was? Of Mice and Men is also a much, much shorter book. Maybe she was lazy?
Shakespeare which perhaps if she said she had done a report on one of his plays I might've been impressed just because it's a hard read at almost any age.
The age difference between second grade and eighth grade is... Vaste. Of mice and men would be a difficult read for a second grader, and even if it wasn't challenging language wise, it deals with violence and there's animal death which can be a very difficult subject for a 7 or 8 year old
I mean, I saw the movie when I was around 13 and it definitely did traumatised me 😅 We are not required to read it in school, I'm not from US nor UK, and I'm not sure if I will ever read the book or watch the move again 😅 I can definitely see how a second grade child can be horrified.
That's assuming that the book report was detailed but Old Yeller Sounder those books with dogs whose owners have to murder them are required as well so we get used to it.
She’s missing that beauty mark though. And I know it’s not much, but sometimes something that can be seen as a flaw just gives an extra oomph.
I think about how after Jennifer Grey got her nose job that she kinda lost some of her charm. Sometimes something a little quirky gives someone that extra something. I don’t know how to describe it.
You guys are too comfortable talking about other women’s bodies/appearances. The woman is a super model but by your logic, “she’s missing that beauty mark.” And who are you?
She’s gorgeous. I’m not saying she’s not, but sometimes what could be seen as a “flaw” gives someone something unique that sets them apart.
Someone said she’s a carbon copy of her mom and I said she didn’t have what was arguably her mom’s most known feature. She even had a commercial where she “licked it off” (I think it was for coke or Pepsi). I also thought Jennifer Grey was beautiful before her nose job.
I was like this but i also know it indicates nothing at all about intelligence or capability in the child lmfao. Hyperlexia only describes children who develop an early interest and aptitude for reading. Nothing else.
That being said, really? I would have found that age appropriate at that age, since it's so short and not a complex story, but i was also reading dickens by second grade.
Is it really NLOG if it's someone else writing about the person? This is just a puff piece on an actress and the quotes from the actress herself aren't NLOG at all they're just random quotes about her work.
I mean, it's not that big of a stretch. In second grade, my mom had to sign a release at the library because I was reading adult books way above my age group. It's not that unusual to have very advanced readers. What is silly is pretending that Of Mice and Men is somehow more complex or difficult to read than Harry Potter.
It's not any more traumatic than The Red Pony or Bridge to Terabithia, both of which grade school kids read pretty early on.
I was like this. It's called hyperlexia. I read early and read anything I could get my hands on, if I could process it emtionally or not. I didn't understand how age inappropriate so much of it was. That caused awkwardness when I shared some of the stories I'd read in public.
This is an actual thing that actually happens.
Is the idea of this sub supposed ot be that none of us can stand out in any way or have unique experiences?
It's not advanced language or difficulty or length. Of Mice and Men contains deeply disturbing events. A woman attempts to seduce a mentally disabled man who procedes to kill her because he doens't know his own strength, so his best friend mercy kills him. That's the book she was doing a report on for second graders. That's what she's saying.
It’s not the fact that she read Of Mice and Men at an early age, it’s the comparison to her peers reading Harry Potter and the implication that this makes her not like them but better than them in some way
That seems like a distinction without a difference to me. If she's reading age inappropriate material, then there must exist age appropriate material that the people of that age are reading.
The only real difference I see is specificity. She named the age appropriate material.
Steinbeck writes simply. That's who she chose as what she was reading. Somebody whose work is very accessible.
Then she keyed in the difference between what she was reading and what they were reading, and it wasn't about superiority. She didn't say she confused them or that it was above their heads or that it was too advanced for them. She said it traumatized them.
And if that's the actual difference... think it through. She was also that age.
I have two second-graders. Of course I think they're smart, but they aren't picking up Steinbeck because that is ridiculous thing to expect of an 8 year old.
This was me but it was because I was so emotionally mature from being abused at home. I couldn’t identify with kid friendly books and fantasies. Definitely not a flex.
Of Mice and Men is not a difficult book. It’s pretty short and the prose is direct and easy to comprehend. I read it one day when I was sick in middle school, never considered bragging about that lol
There’s a difference between reading literature and understanding literature.
This part
This is exactly right, and also why I love to reread good books. I read Jane Eyre in 5th grade and again in high school. While I understood the words and the general plot when I was reading it as an 11 year old (or however old 5th graders are) I severely lacked the necessary social and cultural knowledge to really get the point of what those words and the subtext actually meant in the way that I did when I was 17. I’m sure if I read it again now at 27 I would feel similarly as I have grown and matured and continued to learn.
I recently did this. I'm in school to be a teacher so I'm passively building up a small classroom library whenever I see a book I liked at that age for a good price. I had some points from a second hand online book retailer after buying some textbooks, so I had about 4 free, under $5, book rewards so I got 4 of my favorite paper backs from when I was 10-12.
One of the books, I had read in my TAG reading club in 5th grade. It was called When You Reach Me by Rebecca Stead. The book has a lot to do with the racial climate of 1970s NYC and also heavily featured time travel. I could read the words on the page and understand them, and could understand the plot well enough to discuss it as a group. But it wasn't until I reread the book in my 20s, that I ACTUALLY understood the time travel elements and the racial context behind the story.
Yes justice 4 Bertha Mason!!!!!!
The difference between reading Slaughterhouse-Five as a sheltered high-schooler and again as an adult with difficult memories to look back on was astronomical for me
I feel like the adhd saved me from this hell. P sure im autistic also.
Whatvi mean is, i was a le to read above grade level. And I had a pretty fair understanding of topics above my grade level- preferred to talk with the adults bc kids my age perplexed me (classic audhd yeet). But I wouldn't read something if it didn't capture my attention, and what captured my attention was the kind of fiction, the types of stories, the escape from reality, that teen/YA lit provided. Didnt help me socialize butn I thinks thats more bc I read and didn't care for tv instead of how well I was reading and what I was reading.
Honestly I remember the days when people thought they were unique for reading Harry Potter despite it being one of the most popular books series of all time, it’s kinda refreshing to know that there’s always a bigger nlog
You’ve illustrated your position so well….
What is the purpose of this comment?
Traumatized them how by reading required reading a few years sooner
Ikr? We read it in 8th Grade. It’s not exactly a difficult read.
Do Anne Frank next hahahaha
Idk what's so funny about it? It's a common book we read in school in germany
I was being sarcastic these are books that are required reading. It doesn't make you special or smart to read something we all have read.
It grinds my gears when people equate being precocious with intelligence. They can and do oftentimes seem to go hand in hand, but, doing a thing early is not necessarily an indication of some superhuman, genius abilities.
So, my son learned his alphabet at 13 months old. Age 2, he read at an elementary school level. At 4, he could read practically anything.
However, he dislikes reading for enjoyment. He was a great student, got accepted into a nice university, has a career he loves. But, insofar as reading, one's peers do catch up. That's the important part. Doing something early is great, but unless you keep going on that upwards trajectory, the others acquire the same abilities.
It was delightful, this little guy reading the newspaper, sitting next to his grandpa. 😅😍 I'll admit that.
I mean Harry Potter isn't exactly light reading either. Not sure what their point was? Of Mice and Men is also a much, much shorter book. Maybe she was lazy?
She identified with Lenny
Agreed, these books are a common denominator among school-aged kids, especially Anne Frank!
Steinbeck and J.D. Salinger are also super common authors that are required reading in school.
Shakespeare which perhaps if she said she had done a report on one of his plays I might've been impressed just because it's a hard read at almost any age.
We read it in the US.
No idea if they still do, but it's not uncommon. I was in 6th grade.
2nd grade and 8th grade are actually worlds apart. Of mice and men would absolutely be a difficult read for a 2nd grader.
The age difference between second grade and eighth grade is... Vaste. Of mice and men would be a difficult read for a second grader, and even if it wasn't challenging language wise, it deals with violence and there's animal death which can be a very difficult subject for a 7 or 8 year old
I don't think Harry Potter is appropriate for most second graders either tbf
I mean, I saw the movie when I was around 13 and it definitely did traumatised me 😅 We are not required to read it in school, I'm not from US nor UK, and I'm not sure if I will ever read the book or watch the move again 😅 I can definitely see how a second grade child can be horrified.
edit: typo
That's assuming that the book report was detailed but Old Yeller Sounder those books with dogs whose owners have to murder them are required as well so we get used to it.
Lmao that was my first thought. Congrats on the required reading 😂 maybe by middle school, she understood what it was actually about
I once cut a highschool presentation on child labor and trafficking short by half because it was so graphic my classmates were going pale.
All of the information in it came from books in the school library.
Everybody wants you to see their edges. Even as a child I had a big impact. LOLZ it just comes naturally
Who's Gerber?
I’m assuming it’s Kaia Gerber - she’s a model, Cindy Crawfords daughter
Yup.
Sadly not as iconic-looking as her mother.
She just doesn’t have the it factor that her mom does. That went to her brother
Agree.💯
idk about that lol she's like a carbon copy of her mother, at least physically
She really is. Next they’re gonna say Maya Hawke looks nothing like her mom
She’s missing that beauty mark though. And I know it’s not much, but sometimes something that can be seen as a flaw just gives an extra oomph.
I think about how after Jennifer Grey got her nose job that she kinda lost some of her charm. Sometimes something a little quirky gives someone that extra something. I don’t know how to describe it.
You guys are too comfortable talking about other women’s bodies/appearances. The woman is a super model but by your logic, “she’s missing that beauty mark.” And who are you?
She’s gorgeous. I’m not saying she’s not, but sometimes what could be seen as a “flaw” gives someone something unique that sets them apart.
Someone said she’s a carbon copy of her mom and I said she didn’t have what was arguably her mom’s most known feature. She even had a commercial where she “licked it off” (I think it was for coke or Pepsi). I also thought Jennifer Grey was beautiful before her nose job.
I’ve only seen her in AHS and she’s a terrible actress.
Thats the first thing i thought too. Shes just so bad
i had no idea she even acted. i skimmed the article and was like, “are they talking about kaia? nepo baby model kaia?”
“Acted” is generous.
It hurt me deeply to watch her.
That’s the name of my old high school 💀. Jump scare.
I had to Google her because I love AHS and didn't recognize the name. How is she 24 and looking 40 in some pics??
She was in one of the worst seasons so very easy to forget
Or you can read both? Like okay?
she’s so well-read for her age 😍 she finished all of shakespeare’s plays in under an hour when she was only two years old!
Harry Potter books are MUCH bigger than Of Mice and Men
Kaia wants so badly to step out of nepo baby status, but I don't think she'll ever be percieved to be as smart as her mom
She was so sigma 🐺
I would honestly argue that Harry Potter is more traumatic than Of Mice and Men. I love both books but there’s so much more death in harry potter
Justice for Hedwig !
Justice for… idk how to spoiler tag 🤦♀️
Like this but without spaces: > ! name ! <
BLESS!! Ty lol. Justice for Tonks
quantity =/= quality
That's actually really funny
I was like this but i also know it indicates nothing at all about intelligence or capability in the child lmfao. Hyperlexia only describes children who develop an early interest and aptitude for reading. Nothing else.
That being said, really? I would have found that age appropriate at that age, since it's so short and not a complex story, but i was also reading dickens by second grade.
See? Anyone can do it. Lmao
Is it really NLOG if it's someone else writing about the person? This is just a puff piece on an actress and the quotes from the actress herself aren't NLOG at all they're just random quotes about her work.
Can you NLOG other people?
I call BS. Maybe a parent read her the book or she knew the story but doubt she read the book.
I mean, it's not that big of a stretch. In second grade, my mom had to sign a release at the library because I was reading adult books way above my age group. It's not that unusual to have very advanced readers. What is silly is pretending that Of Mice and Men is somehow more complex or difficult to read than Harry Potter.
It's not any more traumatic than The Red Pony or Bridge to Terabithia, both of which grade school kids read pretty early on.
Bridge To Terabithia destroyed me as a kid.
no literally. y’all remember where the red fern grows?
Why did you have to remind me of that book man 😭
Imagine reading that book when you have two dogs of your own 😭 I was inconsolable lmao
I believe she read it but I doubt she actually understood it.
Sorry who is this
I was like this. It's called hyperlexia. I read early and read anything I could get my hands on, if I could process it emtionally or not. I didn't understand how age inappropriate so much of it was. That caused awkwardness when I shared some of the stories I'd read in public.
This is an actual thing that actually happens.
Is the idea of this sub supposed ot be that none of us can stand out in any way or have unique experiences?
It's not advanced language or difficulty or length. Of Mice and Men contains deeply disturbing events. A woman attempts to seduce a mentally disabled man who procedes to kill her because he doens't know his own strength, so his best friend mercy kills him. That's the book she was doing a report on for second graders. That's what she's saying.
It’s not the fact that she read Of Mice and Men at an early age, it’s the comparison to her peers reading Harry Potter and the implication that this makes her not like them but better than them in some way
That seems like a distinction without a difference to me. If she's reading age inappropriate material, then there must exist age appropriate material that the people of that age are reading.
The only real difference I see is specificity. She named the age appropriate material.
Steinbeck writes simply. That's who she chose as what she was reading. Somebody whose work is very accessible.
Then she keyed in the difference between what she was reading and what they were reading, and it wasn't about superiority. She didn't say she confused them or that it was above their heads or that it was too advanced for them. She said it traumatized them.
And if that's the actual difference... think it through. She was also that age.
Too bad this isnt oc
I have two second-graders. Of course I think they're smart, but they aren't picking up Steinbeck because that is ridiculous thing to expect of an 8 year old.
Hahahahahaha I was traumatized by of mice and men too but only cuz I’m scared of both mice and men but mostly mice
We read that in my Freshman and Junior English classes. Hated that book.
My third grade teacher gave everyone else “the fifth grade magic hat club” and gave me “the giver.” DO YOU SEE ME PUTTING THAT SHIT IN THE NEWSPAPER
Man, the petty in here. All most likely women who feel threatened. It’s okay, we know.
This is not it. This sub should be for calling out internalized patriarchy, not for shitting on reading women?
This was me but it was because I was so emotionally mature from being abused at home. I couldn’t identify with kid friendly books and fantasies. Definitely not a flex.
Most second graders dont read Harry Potter
Wow so smart, you read a book that is required school reading slightly earlier than most kids. Congrats on knowing how to read in second grade.
Now someone ask her what Of Mice and Men is about.
Of Mice and Men is like 150 pages long. It's an extremely quick and easy read.
Harry Potter requires commitment. I won't say it's more challenging than OMAM, but it's not a whole lot easier.
SECOND GRADERS aren't reading either of these. That's just not happening.
Someone pat her on the head!
Wow. Girl must think Harry Potter is a children’s book series thus traumatizing events would not take place.
Sounds like bs. Second grade level is not harry potter. Thats 4-5th maybe older as the series progresses.
So I just learned Gen Z influencers use the word “traumatized” in place of “bored.”
No one was reading Harry Potter in second grade.
Wow she's so cool and mature and smart.
Of Mice and Men is not a difficult book. It’s pretty short and the prose is direct and easy to comprehend. I read it one day when I was sick in middle school, never considered bragging about that lol
Bro, I love Of Mice and Men, but who's reading that in second grade? 0_o
Imagine kids who did both 🙋♂️
In 2nd grade? Sure Jan.
I feel like some people in this comment section have never picked up a book.. If a 2nd grader can read harry potter, they can read of mice and men.
I’m not doubting that she can read it at that age but picking it and understanding the context? No.
My ass was not even reading chapter books in the second grade wtf 😭