• They made the kid go hungry? Healthy or not, the kid should not be left with zero food

    They made the kid go hungry? Healthy or not, the kid should not be left with zero food

    There's massive amount of morons who think that not eating is better than eating something too caloric.

    This is a completely dumb take for kids, but people improvise themselves health experts because they read some stupid article on the internet.

    kids need food first; “healthy” takes a backseat when hunger is involved.

    That goes for adults, too. The current groupthink that says that poor people should be made to starve to death because otherwise their diets will be unhealthy is...infuriating, to say the least.

    It gets worse with that one; many adults do not understand that those shit boxes of sugary cereal, frozen pizzas, and especially processed meats are what can stretch on the budget they have. It would be nice if eating healthy wasn't so damn expensive, sadly this point is never really considered with anything approaching good faith.

    They also don't take into account that people need time to prep and cook healthy food. And they may not even have the basic appliances to do so.

    Either because the place just doesn't have it or they don't work and the slumlord isn't in any kind of hurry to repair them.

    Very true, I myself lived in a place where we had to buy our own range stove because there was no working stove or oven. That range stove, our crock pot, and our electric griddle all came in handy during this time.

    Crockpots are so clutch, you can usually get them pretty cheap secondhand and you can run them off anything, including a car battery.

    We gave ours to my in-laws when we got the pressure cooker. I can still use it as a slow cooker.

    I got an instant pot vortex a few years ago for Christmas and that thing never ceases to amaze me. It even has a separate lid to turn it into an air fryer.

    My house didn't have a kitchen when we moved into it, and the amazing, lifesaving appliance for us was a rice cooker. We used it for everything for weeks until we'd installed a kitchen. My friend's parents are Chinese, and her mum called us "the smartest white people" for having what she deemed the most sensible kitchen appliance before bothering with anything else. It was a proud moment.

    I have a crock pot that belonged to my grandmother, given to my mom, and now it's mine. Damn thing is at least 50 years old and it is by far one of my favorite appliances I use at least two times a week minimum. I also have a Japanese rice cooker that my grandmother bought during a trip to Japan also over 50 years ago and I still use that also at least three times a week because I love rice. I will be so sad when it stops working because it's so old I don't think I'll be able to find a replacement for either of them sadly 😢

    But yeah they work wonderfully. I'm cooking a pork roast in mine tonight. Kansas BBQ flavor pork loin with fresh garlic, onions, carrots, potatoes, and lots of seasonings slow cooking in beef broth. And I think that's my favorite thing about crock pots is the smell you get to walk home into after work!

    But yeah especially the rice cooker I don't think I'd be able to replace it I don't know if they make them anymore and I don't even know if I could look up the model because everything is written in kanji in Japanese and I have no idea what the hell it says LOL.

    They are truly appliances of the gods.

    I especially like how you can get the cheap cuts of beef shoulder and make them delectable using a crock pot. Any meat will do but beef shoulder just softens up real nice, especially if you do a 12 hour slow cook with some good chili as a base🤗

    Hit that Google lens bro

    We have a lot of kids in our district who don’t have access to a kitchen AT ALL. Even if they wanted to buy their own stove or crockpot or what not they couldn’t they live crammed in room they rent with many other family members and don’t have access to the kitchen so all of their meals are either packaged and shelf stable, fit in a mini fridge if they are allowed to have one, or purchased at the closest bodega or gas station that they can walk to

    Yeah, that was one of the main situations I was thinking of.

    I had to explain this to my montessori friend when she was aghast that anyone would feed their kids instant mashed potatoes. "But potatoes are so cheap!"

    Time isn't. Time to make them, time to go to the shop for more because they spoil faster, time to drive further, a LOT further if you live in a food desert (we are in the UK so that last concept is alien to her).

    This pisses me off. Instant mashed potatoes are literally just potatoes. The only processing is to make them shelf stable and lighter to ship by removing most of the water.

    Yep, I have been in huge arguments with right wingers who are literally incapable of even understanding that people don't have cabinets full of various seasonings, never mind that people don't have a nearby supermarket, a car, an oven, a fridge, pits and pans, more than one cupboard, or enough money to even buy one very large bag of rice and stretch it out.

    It's honestly sad that they are so incapable of imagining anything outside of their own life experience, what a pathetic way to live. Of course, it's even sadder that they lash out at less fortunate people to feel better about their miserable existence.

    Sadly, it's not just the right wingers. I've dealt with it from fellow lefties.

    I've lived without a car in two different areas that were more or less food deserts and it makes getting groceries so hard. Luckily I have been able to afford Instacart, but without that grocery shopping would be so difficult and time-consuming than it otherwise would with buses and trying to cart food around. Not to mention, it's harder to get perishables when you're busy and can't get to the store often because you might not be able to eat them before they go bad, especially if they're for a recipe where you can't run back to the store easily for a forgotten ingredient or if you mess something up.

    I think this is the biggest issue. People who have long commutes, single parents who have to drive half an hour across town to pick up their kid from school after work, work 2 jobs, use public transport which eats up hours of your day... It's fucking hard to be motivated to fix more than a handful of croutons and a huge spoonful of blue cheese dressing.

    I mean, honestly, you can eat pretty damn healthy on a low budget, like frozen vegetables are sometimes better than "fresh" that's been sitting in trucks and on shelves for weeks and they're stupid cheap for huge bags of generic/store brands. Rice, dried beans, lentils, etc... All really cheap. The problem is, when you're constantly exhausted from constantly working and stressing and worrying, it's nearly impossible to have to motivation and/or energy to turn all that stuff into something appetising.

    As a single person who fights depression, sometimes all I have in me is a frozen meal. That’s a lot of the time, actually. I try my best to eat healthily and I love vegetables, but I am so damn tired at the end of the day (also not helping was my sleep apnea that went undiagnosed until last year).

    We really need to give people more grace.

    Hard to have time to make food when you worked a 12 hour day or labor and you know you have another one coming tomorrow

    What really frustrates me is people getting upset at poor people eating McDonald's because it isn't "healthy". What they mean is that it's calorie dense. That's bad for trying to lose weight, but it's good when you need fuel to work. Sure, there's more nutritionally complete calorie dense food out there, but not at that price and level of time commitment.

    Those same folks rarely provide a realistic alternative beyond a nebulous 'figure it out' or 'do better'. It is a very tiring dynamic, to be constantly around that kind of low level thinking.

    What really gets me is the attitude that some people don't deserve to make choices for themselves that are within their means, just because the means they have are less than the means of the person complaining about it. Like, just because a person is poor doesn't mean they shouldn't enjoy a Big Mac once in a while if they can afford it.

    These judgey rich people act like poor folks should be forced to wear sackcloth and eat dust until they can magically afford a time share in Florida, at which point they will be deemed sufficiently prosperous to be allowed to make decisions for themselves and enjoy things. Life can't always be about maximum utility to the exclusion of joy, no matter what your income is.

    This is true, but there's also another factor.

    I grew up poor. And eating the same cheap food. Mac and cheese, ramen, hot dogs, etc. Over and over and over makes you a little crazy. A fast food burger was a treat and at some points the only thing that saved our sanity. Was it smart budget-wise? No. But it's hard to explain how much those once or twice a month "treats" meant to us as kids.

    If they actually cared, they would provide healthy food at cheaper prices.

    And then people are like “rice, beans, frozen vegetables, there! Healthy meals you can stretch!” And while, yes, those things aren’t too expensive usually and can be stretched and make for healthy meals, they take time to cook. Even rice takes 20+ minutes, plus you gotta make the other stuff, and I’m not gonna expect someone working 12 hour shifts at a shitty job to want to stand at a stove cooking for a half hour every night (or longer one night to make multiple days’ worth). Would it be better for them? Sure. Is it reasonable to expect everyone to have the energy to cook after working all day at a job where they’re overworked and underpaid and probably treated like shit by customers/the public, especially when they also have kids to take care of? Absolutely not.

    “Well, I was able to do it, so why can’t they?” Not everyone is you. You can’t hold literally everyone to the standard of what you specifically are capable of. That’s absurd. People have different limits, not everyone who isn’t able to push themselves to do what you could is just being lazy. There are people out there working far, far harder than you in every aspect of their lives, does that make you lazy? Should they judge you because what they’re doing comes so much easier to them than it would for you? If your answer is anything but “yeah I’m an incredibly lazy POS who’s just not trying, I could be doing a lot more and it wouldn’t even be much effort” then you have no right to judge people who aren’t able to do as much as you, for whatever reason.

    I hate seeing that argument, it’s like people forget that not everyone is the same.

    Also with stuff like meal prepping, I’m a renter and I have a TINY freezer. I don’t have space to make a lot of stuff in advance.

    My partner didnt understand why I was so mad when he got nice food when I have been budgeting out my ass and eating frozen pizzas. I wish I knew how to word it

    It's the choice of having much of something inferior and not all that good versus having quality food but way less of it, it is all on what you can stretch. Much of it is also thinking outside the box. Pre-pandemic, I would make a chicken alfredo with ingredients from the Dollar Tree, even the boneless chicken came from there. With all the ingredients, it would come out to roughly 8 bucks.

    No you don’t understand it’s your fault for being poor /s

    Seriously though poverty is the ultimate sin to so much of our society.

    Especially considering any breakfast cereal that doesn’t taste like sawdust is absolutely loaded with sugar. It was such a successful scam convincing people breakfast has to be a particular thing - granted a lot of it was sold because of its convenience.

    people don't understand just because we shouldn't start a starving person's diet with too much calories doesn't mean we should starve them. we just have to start small and slow until their body gets used to it and demands a normal amount but i guess some brains don't understand nuance

    The current groupthink thinks poor people shouldn't get fancy food period. How dare poors get luxurious food EVER... that's RICH people food.. but I digress. People are all equal, money, job, or not, and I hate that groupthink more than anything.

    I have seen people criticize people on food assistance for buying a birthday cake. They’re allowed a treat.

    Especially when their tax dollars are the reason alot of food exists to begin with. People punch down on people getting SNAP and ignore the multiple billions in subsidies given to corporations and farmers to produce the food. The average corporation gets much more in subsidies than the average person on food stamps

    Food should honestly be free since we already pay for it in taxes in many cases

    Wait, this stupid argument is back? I thought we went through this long ago! During the time of "poor people will just spend it on drugs/alcohol."

    That and the kid's more than likey going to run that entire meal off across the day. Kids are made of energy unless they're getting super high heavy foods for all their meals, then they get heavier and slow down a little, but your average kid will run a croissant's worth of energy off during recess no question.

    that pretty much the rule for every human, if what i can get is a big mac and ive not eaten all day then i guess im eating the slop regardless on how id prefer a steak with a salad.

    kids need calories tho. Their metabolism is insane and they are constantly growing, they don't have the same health requirements as a grown adult

    Yeah that's what I meant.

    Growing children need calories and nutrients to grow healthy but adults need more calories to sustain there fully grown bodies. It should be unacceptable to let anyone starve. Food being important for growth doesn’t make it non important for basic survival. Kids need to eat smaller amounts more often but adults need a greater supply of calories to power a fully grown body

    In my area, the few schools who do this replace it with a healthy lunch and charge the parents.

    I don’t think they do it anymore, tho, because it made the news when they took a lunch of leftover roast and veggies and replaced with with crackers and cheese.

    someone wanted leftovers LOL

    Beats a weak ass lunchable. Hello, veggies and protein? Confiscate that and dole out some government grain and cheese, jackasses.

    and makes me wonder if these weren't the first parents to say something or if the others just rolled over since there is no way this was the only time it happened

    That's beyond fucked up.

    Yeah, five bucks for cheese and crackers.

    Honestly, I’m against any and all lunch policing.

    There’s just no way possible to do it without discrimination. You will end up harming kids with dietary restrictions (including food aversions. Those count.), minority kids whose home cooking the staff don’t immediately recognize (I don’t know what’s in that, so I’m going to assume it’s got no nutritional value), and poor kids eating what their family can afford.)

    Like, are you going to require that every kid have their dietary restrictions written on their lunchbox? If it’s a texture aversion or arfid or whatever, it’s not gonna be straightforward and it’s probably not gonna fit. Force every kid to bring in a complete ingredients list? Are you providing a wide variety of free alternatives in a way that doesn’t single out or shame the kids who have to take them?

    Of course not. You’re going to say that all kids should eat anything, make up some absolute nonsense about why curry shouldn’t ever enter the lunchroom, and offer only off-brand allergen biscuits as a price-gouged alternative to “punish” the parents for their “lazy” lunch packing skills. (At least, I’ve never seen a lunch police that didn’t quickly devolve into something closer to lunch gestapo. They start out well-intentioned, but that initial energy-and funding-runs out, people get complacent and lazy and out come their unexamined, unconscious biases.)

    As someone with ARFID, this comment is like reading a horror story. I would leave the school if they implemented that shit.

    As a kid with huge taste and texture issues, I absolutely would've starved myself if I had my food taken and replaced

    You mean the children are individuals and not a hostage, that as a consequence have to feed?

    Even if a kid brought in a lunchbox full of candy and soda, it shouldn’t get taken away. Maybe a call home and talking to the kid, but taking food should never happen.

    In the adult world my boss wouldn’t take away my lunch because they deem it unhealthy. If they did, they would either make a bad joke or say something. To which, depending on severity, I could go to HR and they would be in the wrong for discrimination.

    Exactly. If the lunch situation is such that there’s a real worry about the kid getting adequate nutrition aside from calories, it’s reasonable to require that they eat something healthy provided by the school before they get into their box of sugar. But taking food away from a child is so far beyond cruel that there’s basically no situation outside anaphylactic allergies that it could be acceptable.

    Damn I would have been a very mad kid, leftover roast and veggies was my favorite, even more than just cooked. I always ate (free) school lunch so never brought it from home but I would have loved to bring that

    Yeah, the mom was PISSED.

    The idea of someone else policing what I feed my kid is not cool, unless I’m literally starving them or it’s something extreme like that. But daily monitoring of what I feed my child is not at all okay. And also get your hands off my child’s belongings! Don’t touch their stuff!!

    Do I have a child? No… but if I did!!!!

    My school attempted banning food from home citing allergen and healthy eating concerns. It was accompanied by a huge hike in lunch prices. The amount of food remained the same K-12 but prices increased by grade.

    Lunch for a high schooler was $4-5 and looked something like 4 chicken nuggets, a spoonful of canned fruit, and a small carton of milk or juice. If you couldnt afford it they would give you 2 slices of bread

    The blanket ban wasnt in effect for longer than a couple weeks, nor was it really respected. They maintained a hard stance on no peanut butter, which was odd considering for field trips they would provide celery or carrots and peanut butter

    allergen 

    Most schools are terrible with providing allergen-friendly food; kids with allergies were definitely safer eating their own packed foods 

    I mean what is even the point of not leeting him atleast eat the banana, apple and seeds?

    I hope this is ragebait.

    Let him eat it, because it is the lesser of two evils, and send a note home asking to better follow the standards at school. Or, even better, tell the to piss up a rope. My kid's meals were heavily criticized, but they are allergic to milk, eggs, and nuts, and didn't eat sandwiches. So, yeah, they got weird meals of whatever it was that they would eat. And if it was cut up hot dogs and pickles, at least they were eating.

    I was a weird kid who liked to eat from a ziploc baggie full of either cold beans from a can, cold cubes of extra firm tofu, or cold crinkle-cut beet slices from a can. (Rinsed and drained, of course.) My parents were treated like they were insane for letting me take this as my snack to half-day school. One time they actually got told during pickup that they should feed me “more appropriate” snacks like Goldfish, Cheerios, or fruit snacks. They were like “ok show me proof that those foods are more nutritious and we will consider it.” They never heard back. 

    Kids are weird. I exclusively ate mustard and cheese sandwiches in first grade lol

    My guess is that was more about it being easier to clean up goldfish than beet slices. I’m imagining your little purple hand prints everywhere.

    Shaming the parent.

    This shit happens all the time in America. Fucking Lynda Carter had to go to congress to argue against public schools sending students home with letters from the school nurse saying "Your child is medically overweight," because of her own kid and many others being bullied for getting them.

    "Health" decisions that mostly come down to "Shaming people for what they eat" are incredibly common.

    If you take something i will eat away and replace it with something I won't eat than I'm not left with zero food, but the result is the same.

    Had it been my kid, I would've gone full Karen mode to the head of the school district and the news

    Had this been my mom, she'd be in jail for assaulting a teacher. Don't starve babies.

    Welcome to America, we starve people and children for the sole purpose of starving them.

    Aside from the fact that croissants aren’t bad for children, as long as it’s not 3 times per week or something. A parent who adds sunflower seeds and apple slices probably also makes sure the kid eats some veggies and beans now and then.

  • Teachers inspect lunches and determine if it’s healthy enough?

    No, but there are part-time lunch monitors who occasionally get unduly enthusiastic. 20-ish years ago I had one refuse to release me to the playground until I finished everything in my lunch, particularly my chocolate milk. I was so baffled to be required to drink all of my chocolate.

    I got a talking to a while ago because Licking my Plastic Knife was seen as Impolite.

    Fuck off Ms. Tammy I was 8. I wanted all of the jelly.

    “A while ago”

    “I was 8”

    Lmao my guy held a grudge (unless you’re 9)

    You've never seen me hold a grudge. I can put Indigo Montoya to shame.

    My mom always said I was a grudge holder. And I’ll never forgive her for it!

    It’s Inigo, btw ☺️

    They are talking about a different guy

    Hallo! My name is Indigo Montoya. You kissed my father. Prepare to cry!

    I'm still mad 30 years later about the preschool teacher that scolded me for drinking my cereal milk from the bowl like I was drinking from a mug. How the fuck else am I supposed to drink my cereal milk?

    Fuck off Ms. Tammy, I'm in my 30s and I'm gonna lick the fucking jelly.

    When I was in 2nd grade the principal walked up to my table and spun my tray around when I was eating something on the top half of the tray to put the food closer to me. To this day, decades later, I am still furious at the fucking audacity.

    This happened to my brother in grade school -- he wasn't hungry and some powertripping old lady made him sit and forcefeed himself his entire lunch. He promptly vomited all over the cafeteria and my mom lost her shit at the teacher.

    She was one of this bitter, vindictive old teachers who's been doing it for 30 years because she has to but hates children. Made everyone around her miserable. Probably dead now. Good riddance.

    Woof, my brother and I were also forcefed in kindergarten. Adults can be so insane to children.

    I remember one I had way back in elementary school that would take energy drinks away from the kids and throw them away lol. I personally don’t think kids should be drinking that stuff at all, but I wouldn’t snatch it away from them smh. I’d mind my own business.

    Oh, and the gym teacher back then would walk through the cafeteria and belittle and degrade any kid with chocolate milk because “you’re making yourself fat and disgusting.” Meanwhile he had a huge beer belly and was gross all around.

    I’m glad I’m long done with school lol

    On gym teachers, the one I had in high school refused to accept my scar tissue lungs as an exemption from running. Basically I have scar tissue in my lungs from chronic acid reflux as a child. Overworking my lungs sends them into spasms.

    Teacher was ex-military and made me run laps outside in the cold until my vision started going black and I vomited and then she slapped me on the back and said, “Good job.”

    I guess she thought I was just lazy or a wimp but I’ve never been out of shape or overweight. So I think she literally targeted me because she didn’t believe that my condition was real.

    Sheesh. Why are gym teachers all such douchebags.

    Something similar/kind of opposite(?) happened years ago with this gym teacher and he finally got his ass fired. Some little girl forgot her sneakers, and the gym teacher was mad about it so he forced her to run barefoot on the blacktop in 90° weather until he said she could stop. And this was a little kid. Probably six or seven, so not really someone who’d stand up for themselves and tell him to fuck off. Her feet were burnt, blistered, and bleeding so bad she couldn’t walk. They had to take her by ambulance to the hospital.

    And he did those things all the time. The only shocking thing is that he wasn’t fired before that. Y’know, like maybe when he killed a student riding a bicycle while he was drunk driving. That sounds like firing material to me, and yet…

    OMFGS WHAT NO SEND THE MAN TO PRISON????

    My school had a yearly sporting event where all the kids in the school were forced to run timed laps around a couple of football fields. It was notoriously impossible to get exemptions from, even for valid medical reasons, and if you didn't finish within a certain time they'd fail you for gym class that year. Not even stormy weather could stop it (teachers would stand around with coats and umbrellas while us kids got soaked and shivering).

    I remember slipping in the mud, coughing up blood and being on the verge of passing out from those runs. My heartbeat went crazy and irregular. It felt like dying. No one cared. It was only years later that doctors confirmed what I always knew - that I had a heart condition - and shouldn't do exactly this kind of HIIT cardio. It can literally kill me.

    So nice how no one listens to you until some guy in a lab coat says it.

    I had a PE teacher do this to me with my asthma, we had a state-level swimmer in my year who also had asthma, therefore I must be totally fine to run cross country!

    So I purposefully gave it my all and had to be taken to hospital 🤣 (don't try this at home, kids...or at school)

    I swear PE teachers are either the biggest assholes, the biggest idiots, or both.

    Same here, I walked out of class after getting the wind knocked out of me and struggling to breathe. By the time I got to the nurse's office (where they kept my inhaler in those days), he'd already called her and was mad.

    Stay mad, dude.

    You know what? Energy drinks is the rare thing I agree with taking away from elementary school kids. They don't need them and they're an immediate danger.

    Yeah I agree, there’s literally no reason an elementary school kid needs an energy drink.

    Yeah, that’s one thing that’s closer to kids taking drugs then just eating unhealthy food. Energy drinks are not great for full grown adult adults much less children.

    Also I don't blame school staff for not wanting to deal with a jittery kid hyped up on Monster.

    I went to a small private school as a kid maybe 25 years ago and any teachers didn’t want us talking at lunch. Lunch had to be silent and we would get yelled at for talking. I guess they wanted us to finish our food quickly and clear out the cafeteria on time. But as an adult and after having attended numerous different schools, this no talking during lunch was so weird and toxic.

    One of the lunch monitors in my school was pretty racist to my baby sister(Black and Indigenous), but trying to talk about it to the principal was hard because the lunch monitor was south Asian. We finally got through to him, but I think she was really ashamed because she was super nice to my sister after that.

    Same, except it was the crappy cafeteria pizza. A teacher took it upon herself to send me to the office until i ate the pizza, I didn't eat it. One of the office ladies sent me out after realizing i wasn't going to eat it.

    I wasn't even a complainer, i could wait until i got home to eat, so I wasn't worried about being hungry.

    Idk wtf kinda power trip that woman was on, but i won the war of stubbornness. The cheese on those pizzas could bounce like bouncy balls.

    My twin and I were shy picky eaters in kindergarten. We were held in the cafeteria after our grades were released and returned to class for refusing to finish a meal. The grades above us came into get served lunch and were getting lined up and we're still in there. Our principal got so upset that she separated us and force fed us by squishing our faces and shoving a spoon into the back of our throats while we were crying. Some of the older kids in line got so freaked out by watching that, they went home and told their parents what happened. My parents fought the school, ended up on the news, nothing changed, we got homeschooled for a year and moved away. The food was mashed potatoes with gravy on a slice of toast. I was too shy too ask for no gravy. Ate everything else though.

    Lol, I had a lunch monitor always coming to our table, chastising me for always having cheese sandwiches, my friends for having goldfish, mini chocolate cookies, don't get me started on buying chocolate milk with our own money! How unhealthy! But not finishing it? How dare you, spoilt little brat!.. She weren't really leading by example, considering the old crone had a McDonald's burger every day...

    I distinctly remember being threatened by a lunch monitor with not being allowed to go out to play after eating because I was eating “dessert” before my actual lunch. It was a Fig Newton.

    I had that happen except I accidentally grabbed strawberry milk, which I'm allergic to, and I told them that. They still wouldn't let me go to the playground unless I drank it all.

    I obviously didn't drink it, but that was a lawsuit waiting to happen. 

    I got yelled at once by a lunch lady for sitting on my leg on my seat in the cafeteria because I "had my shoes on the furniture." Mind you this was a round plastic seat with no back that was attached permanently to the table. She called me a liar when I was confused and said I did it at home all the time.

    My siblings and I had the same issue in primary school. When a particular teacher was monitoring lunch she would force us to eat everything in our lunch box and take out stuff she didn't think was healthy. My my case it was the opposite to you, my teacher would remove chocolate milk (or anything milk) because she said milk is bad for you because her son was lactose intolerant (her son was a fully grown adult that didnt attend the school at all).

    My Mum would always pack a ton of food, so when this teacher was on, I would spend 40 minutes of the hour long lunch break trying to force myself to eat everything.

    i won't forget the pizza party we had in first grade where we had to eat a cup of raw celery and carrot sticks first. i pretended to be sick and spit them up and then got told i couldn't have pizza bc i was "sick" (obviously the teacher knew i was not).

    I'm 42 now and most of my diet is fresh vegetables bc i like eating a lot of volume but watch calories. But even still, I can't eat raw carrots and celery like that, it's just torture.

    When I was in primary school we'd have food in our lunch boxes confiscated if it was like chocolate or something and we were made to eat the sandwiches first. They'd take out yogurts and stuff if they caught us trying to eat it before sandwiches

    So that was a universal experience and not just my school then?

    It's all gonna end up in the same stomach, why is it the end of the world if I have crisps before a sandwich?

    That's crazy. I usually ate the sandwich last cause it's almost always the yummiest

    They’d take out yogurts and stuff if they caught us trying to eat it before sandwiches

    This is insane. When I have multiple things to eat, I like to go back and forth; a few bites of sandwich, then some yogurt, that way I’m done with both at about the same time.

    It's common with certain types of teacher and in some locations, I've heard of some sending home grades for the parents or even red light/green light print outs about whether the food is 'healthy' or not. I think it's gross, especially as a disability worker who deals with a lot of kids with ARFID.

    id be sending them back a note telling them that if they wanna dictate what my kid eat they can foot the bill.

    Yes. My stepson often comes home beaming with pride because he was told he has the healthiest lunch in the class. Although here they work by praising healthy lunches instead of preventing kids from eating the unhealthy ones it wouldn't surprise me that some jerk decided to use the stick instead of the carrot.

    This is also not healthy, tho.

    They sure do.

    In second grade, a teacher took my lunchable because she didn't think it was healthy enough. She also made me sit out recess and sent a letter home with me, addressed to my mom.

    My single father who was doing his absolute best with the resources he had at the time, who had gotten custody of my brother and due to our mother being in and out of jail and rehab, got the note. I remember him just putting his head in his hands and saying "I'm doing my best dammit"

    I'm so sorry for your dad. I hope he managed well, despite the criticism (and how did the school not know about that particular bit of background? Sounds like they were failing you in more than one way.

    In my experience schools often criticize single parents more and will go out of their way to find problems even tiny ones. My mom often got negative feedback from the schools about almost anything we did. It only got worse when we swapped from public to Catholic schools.

    Yes. Happened to me in primary school. Not healthy enough? Came home with a note from my teacher 

    They did when I was a kid, they'd take anything they decided was "too unhealthy"

    I never experienced that and didn’t realize this was a thing

    Maybe it's different locations, I'm British, and every school I went to under the age of 10 was like this.

    They absolutely do, and pretty much zero of them have any health or food qualifications.

    In my country though they send a strongly worded letter and let them eat it anyway.

  • Very much a real thing. Don’t know how it is anywhere else but here in the UK this kind of thing is strict. Many schools would take away certain sweet items and it only got changed in my local school when a good two thirds of the parents filed complaints.

    Yeah I remember going home hungry because they confiscated my Nutella sandwiches. Which like yeah weren't healthy but it was all my picky ass could stomach at that age lol

    Unreal anyone tolerates this nonsense from schools. The very concept of parents packing a lunch and anyone at a school having the audacity to undermine a parents decision is crazy.

    Yeah, there is a line somewhere, if you forced me to look for it, where a school should step in. But that line is all the way over there nearing physical endangerment. Maybe if the kid was packed nothing but sugar cubes and ketchup packets. But if it even resembles real food i would rather see kids eat.

    Unpopular opinion here probably but I can't believe schools get away with half the shit they do, or can do. One time I was held for an after school detention at one shitty teacher's discretion because I refused to take my jacket off indoors (because - get this - I was cold) and I had to call my dad to come pick me up, wasting our time and gas, because... Uhhh... I wore a jacket.

    Same with how they freely confiscate and trash things. I can understand jailing a phone for being a disruptive distraction, but I've seen way too many instances of just harmless treats like lollipops just get trashed in front of the kid in the hall. It's absurd.

    In my middle school, this one particular administrator had it out for me. I honestly have no clue why; I was a pretty good kid. When I wore sandals one day, he made up a rule on the spot that open-toed shoes were against the rules. He took me to the office and got ahold of my lawyer father, who asked him to read the school rule against it then called him a wiener when he couldn't.

    You're dad is awesome for that weiner comment

    It’s a power trip. This is what happens when you underpay teachers, you get crappy candidates.

    Definitely not an unpopular opinion. Teachers and cops are apples from the same tree in today's society.

    "ooo Nutella... sorry, gonna have to confiscate this... too delicious for children... YOINK!"

    Yea, definitely wouldn't fly where I'm from. Especially near me. You don't mess with people's food. Sure, you can advise them to save desserts for last, but if I saw anyone trying to confiscate a kid's food, I'd go ballistic.

    same, my mums a prep teacher and regularly stresses over some of the kids who will come in with very little/only super unhealthy food, they make little sandwiches to offer the kids that don’t have enough but i can’t imagine them just taking it all away from them

    Thats really fucked, especially for kids who may take necessary vitamins in gummy form or T1 diabetics who need sugar. Im surprised they let that fly with how invasive and potentially medically dangerous it could be.

    Back when I was going to school as a T1 diabetic. Literally every teacher was fricken scared to death of me. My home ec teacher didn't want me in her class because she "Didn't know how to find sugar free recipes!"

  • Fruit and a croissant for breakfast isn’t even uncommon. She even added sunflower seeds for a teeny bit of healthy fat and protein. 

  • This is healthier than any breakfast I’ve eaten in the last 30 years lol

    Compared to the lunches I've seen at my daughter's school it's awesome. We used to let her get hot lunch on Fridays. But after asking a few times and getting answers like, "I had macaroni and cheese and spaghetti." We stopped. Once she got sick and while we couldn't for sure blame the hot lunch we had our suspicions.

    Then once after we stopped letting her have hot lunch, I went to have lunch with her at school and her best friend sat with us and her lunch that day consisted of two incredibly dry pieces of fried chicken and a quarter of a waffle drowned in syrup. I wish the schools around here did better.

    Every snack she brings home from school is like, lucky charms or candy or one of those little bear shaped juices.

  • If it's in their box, it's their food, confiscating it for being "unhealthy" is basically just theft with extra steps. If I had the money and time I'd absolutely waste their resources with a petty lawsuit over it

    School very much is cool with theft, here they take our phones and sometimes say that they'll give it back next day, or even next week, taking something away from our property is already wrong in my opinion, but well, people under 18 don't have rights, so no one gives a shit

    I had a year level coordinator who apparently used to go through people's lockers if they were unlocked and would take things and keep them in her office so she could lecture you when you came to report your stuff missing.

    Like ma'am we were in year seven, we're not always gonna remember/want to lock our lockers...Funny thing is, that was the only year that locks were compulsory. 

    My school kept getting mad that people wouldn’t lock their lockers and faculty would lock the locks on backwards. The next year lockers just had carabiner clips lol

  • I was a teacher for 3 years in a rough neighborhood. One day, a boy about 10 years old that wasn't even in my class asked me for something to eat. When I inquired, he told me his parents still sleep when he gets home from school. He never had breakfast. Or a lunch box. He had to get up, get dressed, and go to school all on his own. From this day, I started to "accidently pack too much" in my lunch box. An extra sandwich. A spare apple. Something to give to the kids if I noticed they didn't have anything, as most were to ashamed to ask and just go hungry.

    How a teacher can deny a student your lunchbox is absolutely beyond me. Many of the kids at my school just had a bag of chips or ate a block of dry ramen noodles. This was horrible to watch, but we were glad when they were given anything at all.

    That happened with my Spanish teacher back in 2010. She had told the class that she always kept snacks for the students in her classroom, even if it was against the rules. The reason why was because she had a student who came in hungry because her parents spent their entire paycheck on a fancy car and refused to buy her food. The teacher further argued that you don't know any kid's individual situation, and they can still be struggling even IF they look well-off on the outside.

    You and my Spanish teacher are examples of why I support teachers.

    You really never know. When I first saw the mother of one of my students, I feared the worst. She looked like a crystal meth addict and had 7 kids from 7 different guys.

    But she was a really loving and caring mother. Her kids always had healthy food. She brought them to school and picked them up. She helped them with homework and made sure they were studying. She was sewing clothes with her kids favorite Disney characters on them, because they were poor and couldn't afford stuff like that. With one exception, they were all very well behaved, smart, adorable kids. All of the dads were helping out, too. The kids called all of them dad. And each one cared for them like they were all their children. I'm still completely baffled about all this.

    I got the feedback that I was a good teacher, but it broke me mentally. I couldn't go on. I had a year off therapy and now have another job.

    I have a friend who's a science teacher and she does this too. Kids learn better if they're not hungry.

  • this seems, like, ten times healthier than a regular bowl of cereal

  • So we get free lunch and such in school in my country but we usually had fruit from home.

    My dad usually gave me sliced apples with cinnamon and I loved it.

    He did the same for my sister a couple of years later and was told that apples and cinnamon was deemed "candy" so she couldn't have it and it was unfair because none of the other kids got it.

    My dad went fucking ballistic and told them that he'd drive there and watch her eat the apple if they didn't allow her to eat it and wanted to know why cinnamon just miraculously made the apple more unhealthy haha.

  • I absolutely believe this is real. Something similar happened to me in fourth grade because my granola bar had tiny chocolate chips in it.

    Same. My confiscated lunches were normally because they were "unbalanced". The cheese and crackers they gave us instead were less balanced than the lunches were most of the time.

  • This reminds me of the time a pediatricians kid wasn’t allowed to eat her lunch because it was unhealthy. It was rolled up lunch meat, a pickle and something else.

    I’m a resident anesthesiologist currently working the trauma night shift, and my wife is a dentist. Last week, our son’s principal (who is obese) sent us an email stating our son’s lunches are unacceptable and unhealthy. He was given prepackaged things like Lunchables and oat bars while I was on night shift. He has autism and doesn’t eat anything, and is in the 3rd percentile for growth. So the last two days we’ve been sending fresh fruits, veggies, and hard boiled eggs, to have his entire lunchbox come back untouched. We’re beyond pissed.

    If it was the upper part of North America the something else was probably cream cheese.

    That is my kind of lunch, NGL.

  • My kid was starved by their school many times for reasons like "those oatmeal and raisin biscuits might be healthy but they look like unhealthy biscuits and the other kids will be jealous", so I can believe it

    I’ve never even seen an oatmeal raisin biscuit. But how are biscuits bad? It’s not like it’s a cookie or candy

    If I had to guess -- biscuits in the British 🍪 sense, not the American sense

    Americans like you and I would call them oatmeal raisin cookies.

  • I've had a colleague say they poured out his daughter's juice box because the school forbids sugary drinks. I understand promoting healthy behaviours, but they should let kids and parents have a bit of freedom, especially if that's making the kid go hungry

    Exactly, what if a family was struggling and the food in the kid's lunch box was the only thing they could get? Sorry little Kaei'leigh, I know you're going to bed hungry and rationing meals for your little siblings, but this orange juice is promoting unhealthy habits, have you seen the sugar percentage?

    Say goodbye to those vitamins, children!

    Imagine her being a type 1 diabetic and already taking insulin for it. 

    Thankfully, she wasn't

  • I still had candy and pop vending machines for a while in elementary school and nobody really cared as long as you actually had food

    My little sister had a whacky "lunch rules" at her school where it was basically nothing processed or prepackaged was allowed,

    My mom and lots of other parents kinda lost their shit on the school rightfully so and they did kind of relax the "rules" but it was still nothing prepackaged. The parents and school fought again and settled on the kids bringing the prepackaged garbage home lmfao

    That's when the parents should have stormed the teachers lounge and thrown away any "prepackaged" foods.

  • The kid's food is unhealthy, so might as well let him starve. I know what I'm doing!

  • I don’t like this because who gets to decide what’s unhealthy? Does a vegan teacher get to confiscate someone’s chili? If it’s that much of a concern, let the kid eat their lunch and contact the parents later. 

  • This is a growing kindergartner, FFS, he'll have those calories and carbs burned off by 2 in the afternoon or earlier.

    Poor little Bub. ❤️

  • What in the world do they feed them if this was unhealthy?

    In my experience, nothing. One of my schools would replace confiscated lunches with cheese and crackers, though, and then by high school they could no longer take our lunches.

    Did they charge for the cheese and crackers? One lady took it to the media round here when her kids roast and veggies got replace by cheese and crackers and they charged her five bucks.

  • I was a very picky kid in and would often buy icecream after eating just the bread from my sandwiches. A teacher started checking my lunch and wouldn’t let me get icecream if I didn’t eat it all, and that started my thing of skipping lunch entirely

  • So I guess starving him is more healthy? Wtf lol

  • Who the fuck do these people think they are that they can override a parent’s decisions on what to feed their kid?

    I get that some parents don’t make healthy choices for their children, but it’s not a teacher’s place to interfere on this level. If it’s that bad and the child is suffering because of it, call CPS and let professionals handle it. You are not the authority on childcare because you teach kindergarten lmao

  • This thread makes me glad I don't have kids, because I feel like if I found out half of the stuff in here happened to my kid I'd be in prison.

  • Nothing made me angrier over the course of my children’s education than the day my kid’s horrible teacher took away his lunch because it was inappropriate/not healthy enough. It was after Covid and they had closed the school kitchen so we had to send lunch in with the kids, they gave us 12 hours of notice. My son has ARFID and I sent him with a thermos of jambalaya. Rice and turkey kielbasa with spices etc, very basic. I sent both kids with some goldfish crackers for snack, one of the few snacks he would eat and having no notice. His food was confiscated including the snack because it wasn’t fruit, even though they hadn’t said the snack could only be fruit and he wouldn’t eat fruit anyway even if I sent it. The jambalaya was declared inappropriate and the goldfish were said to be too unhealthy. It was the final straw and we immediately switched schools. You don’t starve my 10 year old to make a point when she could have just asked me to send something else.

  • in 7th grade I packed my own lunch which was a nacho lunchable and an energy drink. my teacher took them both from me and bought me a school lunch. I was so pissed.

    I bless you with all the nachos and energy drinks.

  • No clue if this happens. If it does, the only way I would be okay with it is if the school provided an alternative that was both free AND healthier, and if the "unhealthy food" made it back home. I would not tolerate my child going hungry for no reason, nor would I tolerate an administrator throwing away food that I bought and paid for.

  • yeah id be talking to the principle/ whoever is in charge about this. regardless of if they find the meal unhealthy is still a damn sight better than letting a small kid go hungry, the teacher is there to teach and make sure they don't put a fork in a power socket, not overrule what a parent has deemed appropriate.

  • This is worse than what they did in my schools. They made sure they knew who had money and who didn't.

    I went to a middle school and two high schools and it was the same.

    Unless you brought food from home, you make for the normal school food. If you didn't have any money in your account or enough OR if your parents didn't fill out the free lunch forms they would take your food try away and just hand off a tiny PBJ on whole wheat wrapped in saran wrap. That's for the poor. If you were rich or had extra money you could go to the special lines and get pizza and chips. And not school pizza like Papa John's or Domino's $2 per slice plus some brownies and other things. Sometimes you'd get to buy a Kristy Kreme for $1 (this was like 2008).

    And that was lunch. They also had breakfast. And if you had no money then you wouldn't even get anything then. Its the weirdest way to segregate people economically I've ever seen

  • Also that food is not that unhealthy. Bread and fruit. God forbid a child eat BREAD AND FRUIT.

  • Schools need to butt out of what kids eat when it's not cafeteria food.

    Seriously.

    If the parents send the food, the kid gets to eat it. And it's none of your business what parents send.

    Preachy scolds strike again, ruining kids days over not-your-pig-not-your-farm-not-your-problem stuff.

  • Thanks to something like this happening to my son with ARFID, he generally just doesn't eat at school.

    I would send him with some healthier options that he was generally not going to eat. Then with 2 oreos and some doritoes. So, 2 foods he would eat, as long as they weren't broken.

    The lunch monitors started taking away his safe foods until he ate the healthier foods. So, he didn't eat. His older sister caught it happening one day and flipped out on them and told me what was happening.

    The next day, I taped a giant paper in his lunch box saying he could eat his food in whatever order he chose and if all he ate was one cookie, at least he had something in his stomach.

  • I used to be an assistant instructor at summer school (private school) and I got scolded for spending the snack budget on unhealthy snacks, although that's the kind of thing that's well within the school staff's control (as much as I was internally like c'mon, they're stuck at school on summer vacation, they don't want fukken rice cakes). Could I see it getting more unreasonable at an even stuffier place? Maybe. Idk.

  • I was required to take fruits and vegetables from the salad bar in elementary school even if I brought my own lunch. Never ate any of that crap. I think they started requiring kids to eat that stuff after I left, though. If I was required to do that, I would have defied that order.

  • Tell the teacher to pipe down. Imagine going through your entire life without having tasted a croissant. And then you die.

  • It does happen. It happened to me when I was in school/ during dance classes. I remember getting Babybel cheese and a Vegemite sandwich taken out of my lunch box by a teacher, because it was "too salty".

    The dance classes were even worse. I remember going to class with a soft pretzel on my 9th birthday (the only food I had). And the dance teacher (a 16 yr old girl) confiscated it and made a big announcement to the class about being "careful not to eat too many carbs."

  • I just texted my sister about this. She has been a k-8 teacher for 23 years. She can count on one hand the number of times someone has had their lunch taken away. Each of those times it was because the food was literally bad, as in rotten or spoiled.

    It's good she works with good and reasonable teachers

  • cuz school staff would never act like petty tyrants and abuse what little power theyr'e given. /s

  • Apples, bananas, sunflower seeds and some bread is too unhealthy for this school?

  • Now imagine your child is diabetic and teachers think they can do the same thing... NICE TRY, MOTHERFUCKER, GO RE-READ THAT 504 PLAN

  • Imagine the PARENTS of THEIR child choosing food for THEIR child and some Karen ass teacher “mmm, I don’t like it, you can’t eat it, you’ll go hungry”

    Holy fuck I’d be crashing out in the school admin building IMMEDIATELY

  • Well it’s healthier than the school lunches I remember. Pizza, soda, chips, candy, tuna fish sandwiches on white, french fries, chocolate milk etc. So a croissant may not be the healthiest thing in the world but maybe that’s what the kid wanted. He was excited about his breakfast, so let the kid eat.

  • This should be categorized as child abuse and the teacher should lose their job.

  • So they preventing him from eating because they care so much

    But don’t care enough to provide a healthy option?

    Is a croissant that bad? We’re other kids eating bread or toast or bagels or other things that seem similar?