J. D. Vance stakes out a bold pro-murder-as-long-as-the-victim-isn't-a-fascist stance in comments to the press
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  • 468 points Newworldrevolution

    There are no good republicans

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    117 points Whitecastle56

    Based.

    https://preview.redd.it/u8a17c58w7cg1.png?width=640&format=png&auto=webp&s=c928a07ec930a0186aebc0203621ce8419fab1b2

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    23 points Ill-Command5005

    Was just having an IRL conversation with a friend earlier how Dem "leadership" is absolutely fumbling this so bad that they're losing the normie resistlib winemom types who are holding signs saying that Chuck Schumer and other dems should ███████████████

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    6 points FOSSBabe

    Library bakesale grannies shall chair the Nuremberg (PA) trials. 

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    46 points Kindly_Map2893

    Republicans delenda est.

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    25 points itsokayt0

    ARA..B?/s

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    11 points admiraltarkin

    Why'd you put the /s?

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    9 points itsokayt0

    Because Arab people don't deserve to be compared to Republicans

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  • 125 points hibikir_40k

    At some point, one gets to wonder if it'd not be better if this kind of conservative Christian would be better off worshipping Khorne, because then at least they'd not care from whence the blood flows.

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    29 points Average_Tired_Dad

    Look man, I'm not entirely certain that they aren't already. They're praying to something, and The Blood God didnt have any qualms pretending to be Ursun. Maybe he's been pretending to be Republican Jesus, too.

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  • 115 points meraedra

    Remember guys. Political Violence is Bad™️ :)))

    You should never, EVER call for political violence against these people :)))

    EVER ;).

    You should NEVER ever hope to resubjugate the deep south ;).

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    34 points okatnord

    /r/ShermanPosting

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  • 48 points Not_A_Browser

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  • 153 points Far_Shore

    First article

    Second article

    Recall that, by Vance's standards, quoting Kirk verbatim and saying that we don't need to sanctify him to condemn political assassinations is celebrating his death.

    And finally, something that I feel is very pertinent:

    https://www.mprnews.org/story/2026/01/08/renee-good-woman-killed-by-ice-agent-in-minneapolis-was-a-mother-poet-and-new-to-the-city

    Her ex-husband, who asked not to be named out of concern for the safety of their children, said Macklin Good had just dropped off her 6-year-old son at school Wednesday and was driving home with her current partner when they encountered a group of ICE agents on a snowy street in Minneapolis, where they had moved last year from Kansas City, Missouri.

    ....

    Her ex-husband said she was no activist and that he had never known her to participate in a protest of any kind.

    He described her as a devoted Christian who took part in youth mission trips to Northern Ireland when she was younger. She loved to sing, participating in a chorus in high school and studying vocal performance in college.

    Get involved, people. They'll kill you either way. Might as well die for something.

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    16 points ohsoGosu

    So when this comes out it will just turn into “Gay bad” right? God forbid this woman was straight, MAGA would have to find something even more ridiculous to be angry about. “All these deranged people with curly hair”

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    3 points Far_Shore

    Oh, the rightoids are way ahead of you. It did almost immediately.

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  • 273 points dweeb93

    Charlie Kirk is already a meme, most people moved on.

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    234 points Far_Shore

    The point is to highlight the fact that this abject incarnation of evil is putting in legwork to create a permission structure for murdering anyone his cronies please.

    This woman was not the person he's claiming she is, but even if she was, it wouldn't matter, because the video makes it painfully clear that this was an act of outright murder.

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    91 points Windows_10-Chan

    I think it also highlights really well the right's cynicism.

    Probably the hardest Destiny has cooked in a long time was on Charlie Kirk, liberals don't have to apologize for anything until Republicans are actually willing to collaborate in turning down the temperature, and Trump and co are blatantly unwilling.

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    76 points MehEds

    🎵WE ARE CHARLIE KIRK🎵 is unironically his greatest legacy and I'm glad its just that

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    77 points Throwaway24143547

    Imagine putting in all that hard work to try and further the goals of the American right and all people really remember you for is an AI generated song and memes mocking your death

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    10 points LightningController

    The best version is the one where Epstein saves his life and they have a conga line.

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    12 points General_Mongoose_281

    I feel bad for him.

    Imagine getting shot and your legacy is a clash royale meme song.

    I always thought he’d end up in congress or something. He had a lot of talent.

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    25 points RaaaaaaaNoYokShinRyu

    You’re just not carrying the flame and fighting for the gospel hard enough, buddy

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    55 points Mickenfox

    It's interesting how much they tried to make him a martyr and how quickly that fizzled out. It seems they couldn't get anyone outside the right to care about him.

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    44 points MehEds

    They really wanted to make Charlie Kirk like MLK when he is infinitely closer to Destiny when it comes to actual political relevance.

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    41 points skrrtalrrt

    Charlie Kirk is literally Destiny if he knew how to PR a little bit better

    Edit: WAS

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    20 points Throwaway24143547

    I don't think they even have anyone who could really have that effect outside of Trump himself. Everyone they have is incredibly divisive at best, soundly hated outside of conservative circles at worst

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    1 points SnooPoems7525

    When Trump dies will a new religion called Trumpism replace Christianity in the US, right? Christianity seems too woke for them at this point.

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    129 points GUlysses

    Most normal people have moved on. They are just mad that Charlie Kirk didn’t turn into the Reichtag Fire moment they wanted.

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    69 points Mickenfox

    I think they are so hostile all the time rhetorically they just have no room to escalate, which makes a "Reichtag Fire moment" hard.

    There was that meme of the guy saying "that's it liberals, we're not playing nice anymore", taking off the Hitler mask to reveal a second Hitler mask, that sums it up pretty well.

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    13 points Actual-Ad-7209

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    118 points Status-Air926

    Charlie Kirk’s murder was supposed to be their Reichstag Fire, but instead it split the right. Now you have a large amount of the MAGA base who listen to Candace and Tucker who believe that Israel and the CIA killed Kirk, and that Erika Kirk is a ghoul who is profiting from her husband’s death. Candace Owens, I’ve noticed, has made her entire schtick about being anti-Israel and talking about Kirk’s death. She never talks about current political events or ‘wokeism’ anymore. Most of her videos are about bashing Ben Shapiro and Mark Levin.

    That’s the problem with allowing the conspiracists into the tent. There always need to be new conspiracies, and eventually they turn on you too.

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    68 points Messyfingers

    In hindsight it's impressive how well Charlie Kirk managed his business where while it was clear to many that he was just a professional debater challenging neophyte college students to harvest sound bites, many didn't notice that. As soon as he died it became clear his widow is a grief grifter and everyone around him seemed to flock to the corpse of his business trying to see what they could capitalize off of and the whole thing seems to be coming down and splitting into cliques.

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    49 points homeboy-2020

    Whale fall

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    17 points Messyfingers

    Shockingly good analogy.

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    9 points homeboy-2020

    You inspired it Edit I mean your comment, not you btw I hope you don’t misunderstand me

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    12 points Messyfingers

    I'm gonna misinterpret it anyways because that ego boost will get me through the rest of the day of generating shareholder value.

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    12 points homeboy-2020

    Damn, at least the place that doesn’t pay me is owned by a single person

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    9 points RaaaaaaaNoYokShinRyu

    He was also a contributor to Jan 6 lol

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    2 points MehEds

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  • 32 points The_DanceCommander

    I can’t believe I actually kinda liked him around 2013. What a fucking maniac.

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    8 points remote_control_bjs

    The book was entertaining when it was a book. This is lunacy and like watching a Bond Villain take shape in real time.

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    2 points spoirs

    You liked him before Hillbilly Elegy? Wasn’t he a nobody?

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  • 26 points baz4k6z

    Vance isn't dumb and senile like trump, he's doing this shit as a calculated move, on purpose. He is simply vile

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  • 87 points AffableAndy

    Being a leftist isn't a capital crime though. Neither is obstructing traffic.

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    41 points willstr1

    And even if it was due process is foundational to our justice system

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    10 points RatManCreed

    Unless your Fred Hampton or various other minority's throughout the United State's history.

    Joe hill didn't get justice either.

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    9 points maybvadersomedayl8er

    ...yet!

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    18 points MURICCA

    To conservatives, EVERY crime ought to be met with the death penalty. You know back in the old days when people were tortured in the street for stealing a single loaf of bread? They crave that.

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    8 points yiliu

    That's not really it, though. Members of the out-group can and should be killed for any resistance whatsoever--or for being an inconvenience. No crime required. Police killed an innocent person who just didn't respond to their demands fast enough? Totally understandable! Nothing to get upset about.

    On the flip side, any punishment whatsoever for people in the in-group? Horrifying oppression. Do you realize some people went to prison just because their overwhelming patriotism led them to storm the capital with intent to lynch congresspeople? Unacceptable!

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    15 points RatManCreed

    I mean history has shown otherwise.

    Two entire Red scares and Anti-Union sentiments even persevere here.

    Edit: here's a list of massacres done against Unions in the United States 

    Lattimer massacre

    Columbine Mine Massacre

    And probably one of the most horrifying. Ludlow Massacre

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    3 points [deleted]

    It think it is in Florida.

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  • 17 points patdmc59

    The only belief JD Vance holds firmly is the belief that JD Vance should be in power.

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    2 points SpecialBass5552

    Not true he is genuinely infused with huge levels of grievance and hatred.

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    1 points No-Kiwi-1868

    Then why, if he wants to get rid of the grievance and hatred he faced in his childhood, and understandably so, is he a fucking sadistic moron??

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    2 points SpecialBass5552

    I don't think he wants to get rid of it. He is a maladjusted and unhappy person.

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  • 33 points WeLoveNazunaHere

    I cut a childhood friend, someone I've known for 30 years out of my life over his deranged behavior in this case. It was a long time coming as his feeds are a cesspit of racism, sexism, homophobia you name it but today was the final straw. I am shaking with rage at this murder and I think most of my fellow libs are as well.

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  • 112 points Any-Feature-4057

    I really hate this era man. Instead of having sympathy and make us united, politicians would just go for political score and light up their bases

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    177 points Far_Shore

    Remember that this isn't a "politicians" thing. This is a "Republicans" thing. Contrast the reactions of very nearly every elected Democrat to Kirk's murder to Vance's reaction to Renee Good's murder.

    The GOP is actively working to create a permission structure for violence against the rest of the population, and, within their base, I would say that they have already mostly succeeded. MAGA people will never see the reality of what happened to this woman, because their leaders are acting in lockstep to smear her as vermin that needed to be put down.

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    1 points Tozeken

    Are we entering the "May 15th incident" era of US politics?

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    -108 points Any-Feature-4057

    Jesus man. Some Democrats are literally defending Maduro to score some political points and light up their bases. When in reality Obama and Biden wanted him dead too. Maduro was literally murdering people for fun ffs

    My guy John Fetterman and Hillary Clinton would never sell their soul for this

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    56 points DataSetMatch

    Some Democrats are literally defending Maduro

    Drop one name, cmon dog, drop just one name

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    51 points MacEWork

    Name a single elected Democratic official that is defending Maduro. Just one.

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    75 points HOU_Civil_Econ

    Some Democrats are literally defending Maduro to score some political points and light up their bases.

    Give me links to three non purple hair democrats (eg popularly elected by more than 5,000 votes in whatever position), saying "Maduro was a good guy, actually" as opposed to "this violated domestic and international laws".

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    -69 points Any-Feature-4057

    International law bla bla bla

    My girl Hillary Clinton doesn’t give damn about international law. If we think our actions are gonna make the world a better place, we are gonna do it

    Since when Neoliberal are bunch of cowards. We literally bomb Serbia and ending Gaddafi’s regime ffs

    This is why Putin attacked during Biden’s presidency. Because he knows Biden’s staff wouldn’t dare making attacking move like Hillary did

    Somebody please put my guy John fetterman as Secretary of State man

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    42 points lovedmoi

    How does Maduro being gone but his regime remaining make the world a better place?

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    26 points Terrance-Flaps

    Where is the link.

    Where is the link to people defending Maduro.

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    20 points HOU_Civil_Econ

    I actually agree with you that the accepted Democrat and Republican increasing violation of norms and laws, but it is okay as long as it is someone that we like doing, through history has speed our path to where we are today.

    But that was not your claim.

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    14 points AlloftheEethp

    Let me get this straight: you think Hillary Clinton, the former Secretary of State, doesn’t care about international law?

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    15 points SpecialBass5552

    Defend your original statement, liar.

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    11 points n00bi3pjs

    Disgusting

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    38 points BloodySaxon

    Yeah you sure showed that strawman.

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    44 points Currymvp2

    Bullshit. Not even Tlaib, who is the most left wing Dem in Congress, is defending Maduro

    The criticisms I've seen from Dems in Congress are "no congressional approval", "Trump is using this to deport more Venezuelans", "Trump is fixated on oil", "Trump empowered Chavistas even more and isn't creating Democracy", "This violated international norms", and "This set a bad precedent"

    My guy John Fetterman would never sell their soul for this

    Fetterman who goes on Newsmax demanding Israel's president pardon war criminal Netanyahu? Fetterman who yesterday said US should purchase Greenland? Fetterman who Trump has lauded for his rhetoric on ICE? Yeah okay lmao

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    16 points TF_dia

    Fetterman who yesterday said US should purchase Greenland

    Psssst, if you go their post history, they are pro-purchasing Greenland.

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    22 points realsomalipirate

    Ok this has to be a troll lol. No real person would compare that clown to our Queen

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    8 points Inevitable_Sherbet42

    My guy John Fetterman and Hillary Clinton would never sell their soul for this

    You're arguing that Fetterman has not sold his soul. Really. The guy who is openly praising the Trump administration damn near every other week. Who refuses to use his screen time to point out what Trump's signature legislation is going to do to rural p Pennsylvanians' access to Healthcare. He hasn't sold his soul. Right.

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    -9 points n00bi3pjs

    Hillary Clinton wanted to censor social media because images of dead kids are turning young Jewish people against Israel.

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    5 points SpecialBass5552

    This is a lie.

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    -3 points n00bi3pjs

    It is quite literally true

    Clinton also noted that when it comes to who’s being influenced, it’s “not just the usual suspects.” She explained, “It is a lot of young Jewish Americans who don’t know the history and don’t understand.”

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    2 points SpecialBass5552

    TikTok is very much rife with misinformation and Israel Palestine is actively being pushed as a wedge issue in the West.

    You predictably spun that in the most bad faith way possible.

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    -3 points n00bi3pjs

    🥱

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    -2 points n00bi3pjs

    0 sources for any of your claims and yet you call me uninformed or incapable of having adult arguments.

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    24 points earthdogmonster

    Not even an attempt to look neutral/unbiased/concerned about the truth. These guys really are pathetic.

    I honestly think this is going to be the last straw for a lot of people who have been trying to cut the admin every ounce of benefit of the doubt they could muster. And I don’t even mean the killing. Literally the awful ghoulish response.

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    18 points shallowcreek

    I can only pray this era ends with Vance crying like a child as he’s sentenced to jail for whatever treason he inevitably ends up participating in

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    6 points WGSMA

    Every time ICE does this, it enables Trump to further radicalise his base. Trump loves it.

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    1 points Not3Beaversinacoat

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  • 13 points Apprehensive-Gold829

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    7 points LoudestHoward

    Initially I thought the "domestic terrorist" label was a bit much, but having seen this she did have all the necessary kit.

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  • 36 points jason082

    I’m not sure what anyone expected given the empowerment and sickening level of funding for a Protection Squadron.

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    33 points scottbrosiusofficial

    You people always show up with your "and you're surprised?" superiority complex in threads like this. YES, it is good to maintain standards of decency and continue to be outraged by the inhumanity of the monsters in power.

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    9 points jason082

    Relax, chief. We don’t disagree on the content. Take the griping to the people that are backing this nonsense.

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    4 points Inevitable_Sherbet42

    You can be outraged without being surprised.

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  • 17 points god_damnit_reddit

    wait he’s just cool with killing leftists?

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    44 points Far_Shore

    J. D. Vance wrote the a blurb for Unhumans, a book I can only describe as a modern Mein Kampf. It explicitly praises Pinochet's example:

    You may already be a subject of unhumans. You are employed by unhumans. You are married to . . . you get it. You know. There’s nowhere for you to run or to hide. You are at the mercy of those who show no mercy. We will not fault you for doing what you must to survive…

    Pinochet offered reciprocal punishment to the communist revolutionaries, demoralizing their cause and diminishing their ranks. All allies of anti-civilization were ruthlessly excised from Chilean society. The story of tossing communists out of helicopters hails from Pinochet’s elimination of communism during the mid to late 1970s. Wherever Pinochet was, there was no communism. And the globalist intelligentsia didn’t like that. Not one little bit.

    Yes, he is.

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    14 points RatManCreed

    Anti-Communism is a Major core tenant of Fascism historically and even now.

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    2 points god_damnit_reddit

    right but being against leftism is still pretty far away from literally condoning their murder in the street

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    12 points RatManCreed

    This is ironically how Genocide starts first they start dehumanizing the people.

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    21 points n00bi3pjs

    Fascists always start with “leftists”.

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    7 points demoncrusher

    Don’t forget to buy your AR 15 now before you need it

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  • 37 points mrjowei

    I wonder if Nicole's family has a case for difamation (libel/slander)?

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    21 points Desperate_Path_377

    The laws might be different in Minnesota, but my general understanding is that you can’t sue for defamation for statements made about a dead person.

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    10 points Far_Shore

    That seems rather obviously problematic when said statements are being used as part of a propaganda campaign aimed to justify someone's death.

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    18 points Desperate_Path_377

    The point of defamation laws isn’t to address propaganda campaigns 🤷‍♂️.

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    4 points stupidstupidreddit2

    I'm sure SCOTUS will give him immunity

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  • 22 points FloggingJonna

    Devoted Christian who took part in youth mission trips to Northern Ireland when she was younger.

    This line is saying a lot of things but the it certainly doesn’t is partisan Democrat imo.

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    22 points Pretty_Marsh

    The narrative is currently "she was a good Christian girl until the leftists turned her queer after her husband died." Wish I was making that up.

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  • 6 points LoneLuxx

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  • 3 points ETsUncle

    If republicans didn’t have double standards, they would have no standards at all

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  • 3 points badusername35

    Wasn’t she literally just driving home and not involved in the protest at all?

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    3 points Intergalactic_Ass

    This article linked in other comments seems to imply that she wasn't protesting: https://www.mprnews.org/story/2026/01/08/renee-good-woman-killed-by-ice-agent-in-minneapolis-was-a-mother-poet-and-new-to-the-city

    Not sure I understand why her wife would've been out of the car if they weren't protesting though. And obviously neither situation calls for her being murdered.

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  • 3 points jpenczek

    This event pushed my dad into finally believing Trump is a deranged lunatic and voting for the democrats in the midterms.

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  • 2 points Old_Suggestion_3653

    most punchable face

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  • 1 points RevolutionaryBoat5

    This asshole calls himself pro-life.

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  • 1 points Damian_Cordite

    There’s a video of a cop executing a woman when she clearly poses no threat to anything except that cop’s ego. The fact that they’re doubling down on excusing this when we can see the murder with our own eyes is just proof that they intend to continue killing their own civilians as long as they belong to a perceived opponent political group. That they can’t say “yeah we’re investigating, maybe that officer should face charges” like any normal government official would, when there’s video of the brownshirt shooting the civilian for next to no reason, is just proof that they view the persecution of random civilians as actively desirable.

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  • 1 points diebartdie99

    But if I call the man fatally shot by Tyler Robinson a deranged fascist, I’d get thrown into an el salvadoran prison

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  • -10 points WGSMA

    Its so frustrating that this all could have been avoided if Biden dropped out in 2022 after the Mid Terms lol

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