Zionism is an ethnocultural nationalist movement that emerged in late 19th-century Europe; it primarily seeks to establish and support a Jewish homeland through the colonization of Palestine, which corresponds to the Land of Israel in Judaism and is central to Jewish history. Zionists wanted to create a Jewish state in Palestine with as much land, as many Jews, and as few Palestinian Arabs as possible.
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Zionism, Jewish nationalist movement with the goal of the creation and support of a Jewish national state in Palestine, the ancient homeland of the Jews (Hebrew: Eretz Yisraʾel, “the Land of Israel”). Though Zionism originated in eastern and central Europe in the latter part of the 19th century, it is in many ways a continuation of the ancient attachment of the Jews and of the Jewish religion to the historical region of Palestine.
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Zionism is a political and national movement that supports the right of the Jewish people to self-determination in their historic homeland, centered in what is now Israel.
Zionism holds that Jews are a people/nation, not only a religion
Like other nationalist movements of the 19th–20th centuries, it argues that Jews should have a state of their own
The movement focused on re-establishing a Jewish homeland in the Land of Israel (historically known as Zion)
As a Kenyan-American who ended up finding this place by various means I want to entirely apologize for the Somali scam as they sent alot of that money to Kenya to smuggle to Somalia. Given how even in Kenya they're a issue and the level of hatred they have towards us k#ffar in our own home country makes me have no sympathy for them.
In addition I feel many of you guys who are still squishy about Islam need to understand this. Paradox of tolerance, you can't tolerate a religion that can't tolerate others, nor can it tolerate your core cultural beliefs. People stealing money to send to literal terrorist organizations should automatically result in de-naturalization and deportation. Two -tiered justice systems and extremely lax laws on extremism kills societies.
There was a thread on arr Toronto about vandalism against Jewish homes. Apparently like 15 homes had their mezuzahs stolen/torn off.
In the comments section there were several Jewish people talking about how tired they are, and I get it, but also there's a lot of "As a leftist who has spent years defending other communities, I was SHOCKED that all my friends turned their backs on me"
Really, you were shocked? Really?
This is a sentiment I see all over the place and it boggles my mind. As an outsider, this was very predictable. I saw this coming a million miles away. I think basically anyone who wasn't themselves a left wing secular Jew could have predicted this
Really, what did they think this situation would look like in their head? Like, in the event of rising Muslim antisemitism they thought, what, the socialists and the feminists and the intersectional POC Black Latinx Queer community would rally around them? As a leftist they must be aware that they are seen as white and they must also be aware of how the oppression hierarchy works.
Of course they were gonna go full Doctors Plot. This was always going to be the outcome.
There’s a harsh lesson I learned a while back. When you are fully deracinated, you can be pushed over and made to crumble.
You have to find things to value in your origins (and sometimes even present background or context) and take them seriously and keep them going. If you think they’re antiquated or irrelevant, get over that feeling. It doesn’t have to be everything, and you shouldn’t exclude all else. But at least something has to be carried forward. Nor does it just apply to minority identities either—I don’t say it just for my ethnic origin or religion but broadly for being an American as well.
You can try throw it over for cosmopolitan individuality. You can try to be assimilative, acquisitive, progressive, or dissociative as a replacement. But that will not work at the end of the day. You can run from what you are, but the people who hate you for a given identity will never stop seeing it and will not refrain from using it against you.
You can completely give up your Judaism and actually Muslims will tolerate you. Or you can invert it and wear the trappings of Judaism as a skinsuit while decrying zionism and some leftists will even embrace you.
It’s a notable difference between antisemitism of today and Nazi-style, it isn’t about genetics anymore. You can in fact escape your Jewishness.
Historically, the American Jewish establishment has portrayed SJP and its ilk as a foreign phenomenon, an import from the Middle East, fueled by Arab financing, radical Arab academics, and the influx of radical Arab and Muslim students—a form of jihad, but with laptops and lattes. In contrast, a December profile of the group in The New Yorker, the Time magazine of progressive Ivy League graduates, presented a snapshot of a prototypical intersectional movement. SJP students and professors, some of them Jewish, were portrayed as embattled social justice prophets persevering in the face of oppression by a corrupt establishment, and the unreasoning hysteria of pro-Israel activists. The Anti-Defamation League’s Jonathan Greenblatt was briefly quoted as making allegations that SJP provided and received funds from terrorist organizations—accusations which The New Yorker author brushed aside as arbitrary and without merit.
The heroic-cartoonish slant of the essay aside, the author did capture a central fact about pro-Palestinian activism, including that which endorses Islamist genocidal movements, which many American Jews are still too quick to deny: Instead of being a marginal cause supported and funded by foreign elements, anti-Zionism is in fact the flagship foreign policy cause of the international left and the academic vanguard of progressive activism. A cause that was once regarded as fundamentally foreign is now mainstream across blue American cities and liberal elite institutions.
Whether wearing a hijab or a Star of David, SJP anti-Israel activists are not simply freaks who demonstrate in favor of Hamas. They are mainstream products of the monoculture of the academic left. They are similar, indeed identical, to the social justice, Black Lives Matter, climate, gender, decolonizing, and woke activists who have been wreaking havoc on the U.S. and tearing apart our institutions for years. The synthesis of causes, habits, mores, and aesthetics of the Middle East and of radical Western ideas has become part of the American elite vernacular.
This vanguard of American progressivism harmoniously merges Marxism, intersectionality, Third Worldism, liberalism, Muslim identity, grassroots activism, and other elements of leftism in a way that is reminiscent of the stock rhetoric of the vanguard left in the 1960s and ’70s. But whereas in the ’60s and ’70s, radical groups that espoused the Palestinian cause as part of a movement of international solidarity with Third World “liberation struggles” were generally outside the mainstream, and not under the umbrella of a major political party, the opposite is now the case.
See the part that surprised me about the huge wave of anti-Israel and antisemitic protests wasn't that leftists and the academic left hated me, like this piece talks about. That part was pretty well known to most somewhat politically informed Jews. Sure maybe we hand waved it a little too much by saying it was a foreign movement but it was still pretty widely understood as existing.
What shocked me was that the boring, average, every day Democrat voter hates Israel and thinks that Israelis are going out every day and murdering children for fun as a matter of fact.
I'm a pretty standard American guy from a blue city who went to public school and have a pretty standard American social circle and every single one of them hates Israel as of today. 3 years ago none of them had a single bad thought about Israel, and barely any thoughts about Israel except that it exists and they occasionally hear me mention that I'm going there for a couple weeks.
The immediate switch of average people was what shocked American Jews. That and the incredible speed of the mass radicalization of a huge percentage of the country.
Even before the war more Democrats symphatized with Palestinians over Israelis. That's why just a month after the ground invasion began most Dems were already opposed.
Truthfully its been a years long idealogical and demographic change in the Dem base that has led to this point.
Idk I think there's a big difference between sympathizing with Palestinians over Israelis vs hating Israel and Jews. Like I sympathize with Palestinians. They have much worse living conditions and limited autonomy. Israelis live pretty good lives in a rich country and travel the world freely.
Before Oct 7 I would probably have said I sympathize more with them than Israelis even. I'm pretty young, I don't remember any of the terrorism against Israel prior to Oct 7 and I deeply opposed a lot of how the current government treated Palestinians before Oct 7. For my entire adult life it had pretty much been Israel killing terrorists and terrorists failing at attacking Israel.
I think all of that is very different than when I see a random college friend who never had any real opinion on this posting about how my friends and family are "colonialists" and "baby killers" and "genociders". People use the word Zionist as a slur, I never even knew that was possible. I don't tell strangers I'm Israeli or Jewish anymore from fear.
On Oct 7 I knew that we would go into Gaza and I knew a lot of people would die. But I thought people would stand by us because we were invaded and we were attacked and we were slaughtered by terrorists.
The way the seemingly normal people reacted is all new to me.
Taking the Palestinian side in the conflict is a gateway into the kind of hatred you've seen directed at Jews/Israel in the past 2 years. If your baseline opinion was already that Palestinians were the victims and Israel the bad guys, you're much more likely to fall victim to the propaganda campaign of the past 2 years leading to hatred of Jews/Israel.
Obviously things have gotten much worse in the past 2 years, but my point is that the foundation for this was already being set years prior. So yes it has been wild to see how seemingly normal people have adopted antisemitic beliefs over the past 2 years, looking back in hindsight I don't think we should have been too surprised.
Some of the people who talk like this were just normie libs who happen to be Jewish and I feel for them, but others are clearly people who were 100% on board with all the hardcore leftist insanity right up until it turned on them.
People who were all in on cancel culture, who would have been fine with ruining my life over political disagreements, who thought Canada is an illegitimate settler colony, and were probably willing to throw Israel and right wing Jews to the wolves too until they realized that they are going to be targeted too just for being Jewish. Turns out antisemites don't stop to ask if you're a left wing antizionist Jew when they go around targeting Jewish homes and businesses!
Import fewer to none imo and entirely change citizenship requirements I'd say so they're far more difficult. Instantly deport any who advocate for extremism
The lesser the better. Yes the worst impulses of Islam mix the self absorption of Hasids or fundamentalist Mormons with calls to violence unheard of in the West. I am not jumping for joy to import 1 trillion uneducated Syrians or Lebanese. But there are more moderate strains of Islam where the evil yahud are not front and center in one's mind all the time. Saudi Arabia is maybe the best current example, look at KAUST, they are civilizing by force.
Muslim liberals tend to still be obsessed with Jews from my experience, they're just better at presenting it to Westerners so they'll give them a pass which they will.
That includes American Muslims who are "Pro America", I have Muslim family in America and they are very educated individuals, incredibly hardworking and intelligent and they support Islamist politics without getting too into it.
But there are more moderate strains of Islam where the evil yahud are not front and center in one's mind all the time. Saudi Arabia is maybe the best current example, look at KAUST, they are civilizing by force.
I do not trust the Saudis at all, Their population hates Americans from my experience and their motives are completely suspect.
Shouldn't we want bad muslims? If you have a religion that has a penchant towards extremism and barbarism, I'd probably favor the least devout and most secular members of that religion.
She was parroting the dancing Israelis on 9/11 conspiracy theory months ago and agreed with a post saying Americans across the political spectrum used to be in agreement on the Jewish question. She's been mask off for a while.
She's flirting with MAGA communism nowadays, so she's probably safe from any big backlash.
I think that's gonna be the route most far left and right pundits take now. Socially right, fiscally left, and anti-jew with the variance being which one they choose to focus on the most.
The types of people who follow her want her to be more radical. Any sane person who used to follow her has already left a really long time ago (that is assuming sane people ever did follow her to begin with which is probably not that likely).
I think that's gonna be the route most far left and right pundits take now. Socially right, fiscally left, and anti-jew with the variance being which one they choose to focus on the most.
I do think there is more and more cross aisle populism going on between far-left and far-right influencers, but in my opinion, the far-right is a lot more in touch with people than the far-left. TYT was always more populist than it was progressive, their entire worldview is solely based around what will get them more influence and support from the "working class".
Anyone with a shred of knowledge about the actual political views of the average working class person knows they aren't immediately sympathetic to progressive ideas unless it is something they know they would clearly benefit from. TYT morons decide that becoming socially right wing will be a better way to sell leftist economics and isolationism.
The problem is, they end up looking far more ridiculous than anyone associated with the DSA. You already have to be terminally online to know who TYT is, they have very little following, and valence populism is only appealing to politically alienated dumbfucks who have zero influence or respect by any politically active organization/partisan voters. Ultimately, the far-right just tolerates people like this because it gives them an avenue to get the left to side with them on antisemtism, illiberalism, anti-capitalism and isolationism.
When I was an atheist, I am ashamed to admit, I used to love reading rational wiki articles.
I think it’s pretty dumb now, but I still think they have some good articles about certain topics. In fact, I bet you could post their articles about ranked choice voting, majoritarianism, and populism, and get heavily downvoted in leftist Reddit subs.
I have said this before, but I respect hard materialist atheists more than I do people who label themselves as “spiritual but not religious”.
I don’t agree with the hard materialist worldview, but they at least have a logical foundation to their belief system based around the assumption that everything is a result of natural processes. They acknowledge the weakness of the human mind in uncovering the truth, but they reject Divine Revelation and instead trust the scientific method as the best method of finding the truth.
Christians also acknowledge the human mind is flawed and to put our trust in God and scripture. But the “spiritual but not religious people”? If you talk to them it is solely based around anecdotes about their house being haunted, horoscopes being true, or even their feelings. It’s truly just picking and choosing what you want to believe based on whatever they want to be true.
Most atheists don’t become the hard materialist skeptics, instead they will say they don’t believe in God, but they believe in ghosts, demons, healing crystals, astrology, and a lot of other dumb bullshit.
2035 kids be like "you shouldn't have studied something useless like plumbing, there's too many plumbers. You should have studied English prelaw instead."
You shouldn't have gotten that PhD in machine learning from Caltech bro. The AI is making a new algorithm every few weeks and humans can't keep up. Go flip burgers or something
There are always jobs that are both high paying and require less initial investment, time, and education relative to other high paying jobs (Doctor, Lawyer, etc). People quickly gravitate towards those jobs. The market becomes oversaturated. Companies try to find ways to save money by outsourcing and cutting those jobs. The market collapses. You have a ton of people angry that they didn't get what they were promised and start to pressure the government to bring these jobs back. Rinse repeat for the next profession with an attractive profit-cost ratio.
This discourse is just the “I want to fuck toasters” greentext but for politics. 20 years ago Loomer or Owens or whoever would have told this to some dude at a bar, he’d laugh and say “I’m not sure about that one”, and it would never be discussed again.
My boomerlib family members are like this. It is impossible to have a discussion about anything politics related without them finding a way to tie it back into Trump. They refuse to admit that there are people who are far worse than Trump in both parties.
It is honestly so irritating when you can't have an honest discussion about any political issue without it being being completely hijacked by the extreme level of alarmism most of the left is operating under when it comes to Trump and MAGA.
Trump has no master plan to destroy democracy and become the dictator. He is a dumb ass who acts on impulse. He gets joy out of occupying so much of the headspace of his opponents and he is to insecure to admit when he loses.
You can hold that opinion while also thinking the progressive left is going to have a far more corrosive impact on society in the long term and that Trump is probably a bulwark against the increasingly extreme faction of the GOP.
By the halfway mark of Mr. Biden’s term, the failure of his approach was impossible to ignore.
The Border Patrol reported 2.2 million apprehensions along the Mexican border the previous year, up from 400,000 the year Mr. Biden was elected. In 2023, the number of unauthorized migrants in the country who were not detained and were waiting for their cases to be resolved surpassed 6 million, almost doubling since 2020.
The White House began experimenting. In January, the Department of Homeland Security started admitting migrants from Cuba, Haiti, Nicaragua and Venezuela, provided they could find an American sponsor, pass a background check and pay for a plane ticket. By giving those migrants an official way to enter, the program — called C.H.N.V., after the names of the four countries — sought to reduce their incentive to cross the border illegally.
People are mad about illegal immigration so if we just make all immigration legal that solves the problem, right? Hilarious incompetence
Honestly the conservative pussyfooting around just saying that mass migration is bad damages their legitimacy. Stop saying no we're just against illegal immigration or no we're just against criminal illegals. Just say what you mean.
"Mass migration is bad and we don't want millions of low skilled, third world immigrants entering the US every single year." That is a winning message that 75% of Americans agree on
They're not going to say that because a lot of their big donors in the Tech, Agriculture, and Hospitality sectors are still pretty reliant on said cheap labor, and explicitly running on stopping it will get them to flee to the dems.
Yeah true. Its exactly what happens in Europe too. Stopping immigration from third world countries is unbelievably popular among the entire voter base, but yet both left and right wing parties just keep letting them in no matter what.
For Europe, it's because of their birth rates. With less and less people, there isn't anyone to pay into the welfare system, so you have to import who you can.
My Alma matter spent god knows how much on DEI stuff in 2020 and when I visited last week the new rooms and parts of the building were very visibly closed unlike most other buildings on campus
Funniest thing that my alma mater did was, immediately after the marched with MLK, old guard black mathematician president retired, the first thing the new president did was look for a Vice President of DEI, because apparently we didn't even have one before.
Because they HAD to hire someone with a hyphenated name (Michelle Barnaby-Jones), who holds a BA in Liberal Studies. in a DEI field because they hold a cert they received in a $250 DEI in Academia seminar.
Polis is a retard. A so called libertarian that makes Colorado one of the most regulated states is retarded. Its hilarious watching the progressives start openly despising him though
If I hear another thing about Irish and Italians bringing welfare states they didn’t fucking have at that time to the US during the late 19th to early 20th century, I’m gonna fucking lose it. You would think you would at least blame the Germans since they actually had one during that time.
Canada had this in the form of Finnish immigrants.
They were called "Red Finns" and until WW2 they were the dominant brand of Finnish immigrant. They were actual Leninists and they settled in places like Thunder Bay.
They're notable because they made up a lot of the membership in early Communist orgs in Canada
I was taught about Japanese internment as one of the “human rights abuses of the Second World War” in middle school alongside the Holocaust, the nuclear bombings, and a very brief mention of Soviet massacres in Germany.
Japanese war crimes weren’t touched, and we were made to read like 3 stories about how sad Japanese Americans were about Prejudice, and spent a day talking about the word “jap” and it’s harmful implications. That isn’t an exaggeration, that was the premise of its entire lesson.
Shitlibs would rather cause sympathy for the Axis powers among middle schoolers than admit America can be good sometimes.
That's not just a shitlib thing. Conservatives love using the interment camps to attack FDR (They aren't wrong on that, but still).
In general, Japan being a huge ally and China being an enemy is probably the reason it isn't really touched upon, especially since, unlike Germany, we were fine keeping most of that Government (Probably necessary to stop the any Soviet aligned government from taking over, but not a great look nonetheless).
Probably involves helping people who have bad credit score get loans, because we all known loosening the regulations about how financially stable you need to be for a loan has no negative side effects whatsoever!
Conservatives with power have still gone too easy on the left.
I think what a lot of people are feeling right now is probably what a lot of conservatives felt during the right wing resurgence after the New Left hippie era. But really it was the hippies who won that cultural battle.
The "woke" identity left isn't dead by any means. And I think the cultural conservatives are making too many of the same mistakes that they did in the 60s-70s
I actually was going to post this on a different comment earlier, but changed my mind.
The trump repudiation of "woke", should not be taken as some great victory of conservatism or some great return to traditional values, but simply halting that particular aspect of progressive culture. American society and culture is still degraded and increasingly defined by the lowest common denominator. All it means is if things returned to the same trajectory they were on prior to the mid 2010s
Conservatives with power have still gone too easy on the left.
That's partially because they have no real power. They've captured zero institutions.
And with the little power they do have, it's because the "conservatives" in charge are MAGAtards who are incompetent at everything they do. Imagine that, people whose entire persona is rejecting anything "establishment" are completely clueless at governing.
I can walk into any given school in my district and see an infinite amount of implicit and explicit support for social liberalism being endorsed by the curriculum. This is a red county, blue state. I know this because I’m a substitute and walk into those schools on a regular basis.
If we simply rewrote the standards on a national level to no longer use Howard Zinn as the basis for all our liberal arts education, it would do incredible things for us.
There are some really obvious first steps that Trump could take but hasn't and won't.
Banning TikTok was a really obvious and easy win. Biden and the Dems already did the legwork. Social media is a huge part of the problem right now and MAGA is unwilling to take it on.
Trump should have done more with the universities too. He seemed willing to go nuclear and then he just kind of backed off after he made a deal with Columbia.
A social media ban wouldn’t do anything to actually address the problem. Bullshit leftie propaganda on Tik Tok or instagram is ultimately a filter and those that buy into it would be shitlibs anyway.
The real solution is to throw the book at leftists who flout the law. Actually detain antifa members for their crimes. Bring charges against the democrats who were encouraging service members to disobey orders. Theres plenty of clearly illegal shit the left gets away with because Pam Bondi is a lazy bimbo.
If you needed a reminder of why the MAGA movement is going to accomplish nothing in the end... Trump is openly admitting that he pardoned Cuellar to try and get him to switch parties and provide a buffer in the House.
But he was so dumb that he didn't actually see if Cuellar would commit to it. The fact that MAGA can't even get a guy who is known for corruption to make a backroom deal is absolutely baffling.
it is quite clear that every immigrant who tries to kill or assault someone because of book burning, or is gleeful from the aforementioned actions, is harmful to society and should be expelled immediately
it is quite clear that every immigrant who tries to kill or assault someone because of book burning, or is gleeful from the aforementioned actions, is harmful to society and Muslim should be expelled immediately
"You can go to live in France, but you cannot become a Frenchman. You can go to live in Germany or Turkey or Japan, but you cannot become a German, a Turk, or a Japanese. But anyone, from any corner of the Earth, can come to live in America and become an American."
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As a Kenyan-American who ended up finding this place by various means I want to entirely apologize for the Somali scam as they sent alot of that money to Kenya to smuggle to Somalia. Given how even in Kenya they're a issue and the level of hatred they have towards us k#ffar in our own home country makes me have no sympathy for them.
In addition I feel many of you guys who are still squishy about Islam need to understand this. Paradox of tolerance, you can't tolerate a religion that can't tolerate others, nor can it tolerate your core cultural beliefs. People stealing money to send to literal terrorist organizations should automatically result in de-naturalization and deportation. Two -tiered justice systems and extremely lax laws on extremism kills societies.
fuck my neurodivergentcel life
There was a thread on arr Toronto about vandalism against Jewish homes. Apparently like 15 homes had their mezuzahs stolen/torn off.
In the comments section there were several Jewish people talking about how tired they are, and I get it, but also there's a lot of "As a leftist who has spent years defending other communities, I was SHOCKED that all my friends turned their backs on me"
Really, you were shocked? Really?
This is a sentiment I see all over the place and it boggles my mind. As an outsider, this was very predictable. I saw this coming a million miles away. I think basically anyone who wasn't themselves a left wing secular Jew could have predicted this
Really, what did they think this situation would look like in their head? Like, in the event of rising Muslim antisemitism they thought, what, the socialists and the feminists and the intersectional POC Black Latinx Queer community would rally around them? As a leftist they must be aware that they are seen as white and they must also be aware of how the oppression hierarchy works.
Of course they were gonna go full Doctors Plot. This was always going to be the outcome.
There’s a harsh lesson I learned a while back. When you are fully deracinated, you can be pushed over and made to crumble.
You have to find things to value in your origins (and sometimes even present background or context) and take them seriously and keep them going. If you think they’re antiquated or irrelevant, get over that feeling. It doesn’t have to be everything, and you shouldn’t exclude all else. But at least something has to be carried forward. Nor does it just apply to minority identities either—I don’t say it just for my ethnic origin or religion but broadly for being an American as well.
You can try throw it over for cosmopolitan individuality. You can try to be assimilative, acquisitive, progressive, or dissociative as a replacement. But that will not work at the end of the day. You can run from what you are, but the people who hate you for a given identity will never stop seeing it and will not refrain from using it against you.
You can completely give up your Judaism and actually Muslims will tolerate you. Or you can invert it and wear the trappings of Judaism as a skinsuit while decrying zionism and some leftists will even embrace you.
It’s a notable difference between antisemitism of today and Nazi-style, it isn’t about genetics anymore. You can in fact escape your Jewishness.
Even worse are the ones who went through this and still carry water for people who they know despises them
This piece provides a pretty good answer:
See the part that surprised me about the huge wave of anti-Israel and antisemitic protests wasn't that leftists and the academic left hated me, like this piece talks about. That part was pretty well known to most somewhat politically informed Jews. Sure maybe we hand waved it a little too much by saying it was a foreign movement but it was still pretty widely understood as existing.
What shocked me was that the boring, average, every day Democrat voter hates Israel and thinks that Israelis are going out every day and murdering children for fun as a matter of fact.
I'm a pretty standard American guy from a blue city who went to public school and have a pretty standard American social circle and every single one of them hates Israel as of today. 3 years ago none of them had a single bad thought about Israel, and barely any thoughts about Israel except that it exists and they occasionally hear me mention that I'm going there for a couple weeks.
The immediate switch of average people was what shocked American Jews. That and the incredible speed of the mass radicalization of a huge percentage of the country.
Even before the war more Democrats symphatized with Palestinians over Israelis. That's why just a month after the ground invasion began most Dems were already opposed.
Truthfully its been a years long idealogical and demographic change in the Dem base that has led to this point.
This is exactly why the idea that if Israel had fought the war the “right way” they wouldn’t have gotten blowback is such BS.
Idk I think there's a big difference between sympathizing with Palestinians over Israelis vs hating Israel and Jews. Like I sympathize with Palestinians. They have much worse living conditions and limited autonomy. Israelis live pretty good lives in a rich country and travel the world freely.
Before Oct 7 I would probably have said I sympathize more with them than Israelis even. I'm pretty young, I don't remember any of the terrorism against Israel prior to Oct 7 and I deeply opposed a lot of how the current government treated Palestinians before Oct 7. For my entire adult life it had pretty much been Israel killing terrorists and terrorists failing at attacking Israel.
I think all of that is very different than when I see a random college friend who never had any real opinion on this posting about how my friends and family are "colonialists" and "baby killers" and "genociders". People use the word Zionist as a slur, I never even knew that was possible. I don't tell strangers I'm Israeli or Jewish anymore from fear.
On Oct 7 I knew that we would go into Gaza and I knew a lot of people would die. But I thought people would stand by us because we were invaded and we were attacked and we were slaughtered by terrorists.
The way the seemingly normal people reacted is all new to me.
Taking the Palestinian side in the conflict is a gateway into the kind of hatred you've seen directed at Jews/Israel in the past 2 years. If your baseline opinion was already that Palestinians were the victims and Israel the bad guys, you're much more likely to fall victim to the propaganda campaign of the past 2 years leading to hatred of Jews/Israel.
Obviously things have gotten much worse in the past 2 years, but my point is that the foundation for this was already being set years prior. So yes it has been wild to see how seemingly normal people have adopted antisemitic beliefs over the past 2 years, looking back in hindsight I don't think we should have been too surprised.
Leopards ate my face!
It's hard to sympathise with some of them.
Some of the people who talk like this were just normie libs who happen to be Jewish and I feel for them, but others are clearly people who were 100% on board with all the hardcore leftist insanity right up until it turned on them.
People who were all in on cancel culture, who would have been fine with ruining my life over political disagreements, who thought Canada is an illegitimate settler colony, and were probably willing to throw Israel and right wing Jews to the wolves too until they realized that they are going to be targeted too just for being Jewish. Turns out antisemites don't stop to ask if you're a left wing antizionist Jew when they go around targeting Jewish homes and businesses!
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Physicists have to deal with emails from this guy everyday
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All muslims should
notbe expelled from the United States immediatelyEdit: This was an experiment and I got 77% up vote ratio to the 33% of the original statement
No, just import fewer
Import fewer to none imo and entirely change citizenship requirements I'd say so they're far more difficult. Instantly deport any who advocate for extremism
The Pharmacy I work at is owned by Muslims, so I can't support this in fear of losing my job. I guess capitalism does make people less racist lol.
If only it made Muslims less racist as well
I'm going to expel you out of a canon.
> Post on NWO: All muslims should not be expelled from the United States immediately
>Upvote ratio: 33.3%
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You chose Iranians as your anecdotal evidence in favor of Muslim migration? Most Catholics are better Muslims than Iranians.
The lesser the better. Yes the worst impulses of Islam mix the self absorption of Hasids or fundamentalist Mormons with calls to violence unheard of in the West. I am not jumping for joy to import 1 trillion uneducated Syrians or Lebanese. But there are more moderate strains of Islam where the evil yahud are not front and center in one's mind all the time. Saudi Arabia is maybe the best current example, look at KAUST, they are civilizing by force.
Nah dude. Saudis outside of the richest people in the peninsula are pretty indistinguishable from the average Palestinian in terms of savagery.
I was thinking of replying with my anecdotal evidence vs yours but that wouldn’t get us anywhere at all
Muslim liberals tend to still be obsessed with Jews from my experience, they're just better at presenting it to Westerners so they'll give them a pass which they will.
That includes American Muslims who are "Pro America", I have Muslim family in America and they are very educated individuals, incredibly hardworking and intelligent and they support Islamist politics without getting too into it.
I do not trust the Saudis at all, Their population hates Americans from my experience and their motives are completely suspect.
Shouldn't we want bad muslims? If you have a religion that has a penchant towards extremism and barbarism, I'd probably favor the least devout and most secular members of that religion.
Most of the Iranians you want are not the types that identify as Muslim then.
I'll take ∞ Zoroastrians
The last bastion of principled conservatism has fallen...
IRC is our only hope at this point
I know what they think about Christians, Jews, and America.
Maybe we actually are all retarded and it’s not just a meme
!pin
https://www.reddit.com/r/jewishpolitics/comments/1pgu9k8/ana_kasparian_the_jewish_lobby_does_control_the_us/ This is going to be a big test in my mind. Ana Kasparian went full mask-off. Will anything happen to her? Any condemnation, demonetization, etc?
If so they're not doing an impressive job.
And of course, after I see this, I read historical revisionism about WW2 (thankfully not the Shoah) in the Claremont Review.
What is becoming of our country?
She was parroting the dancing Israelis on 9/11 conspiracy theory months ago and agreed with a post saying Americans across the political spectrum used to be in agreement on the Jewish question. She's been mask off for a while.
She was so close to being mugged by reality, but it turned out she was once again mugged by leftist brain rot.
No she wasn’t. Some people called this a while ago
Prophetic.
I never had any faith in her, don't get me wrong lol
My bigger question is why is hasan piker getting platformed
Is this really any worse than usual TYT?
No. Just look at what they are named after.
Wow
She's flirting with MAGA communism nowadays, so she's probably safe from any big backlash.
I think that's gonna be the route most far left and right pundits take now. Socially right, fiscally left, and anti-jew with the variance being which one they choose to focus on the most.
It’s a shame nobody could’ve predicted this
The types of people who follow her want her to be more radical. Any sane person who used to follow her has already left a really long time ago (that is assuming sane people ever did follow her to begin with which is probably not that likely).
I do think there is more and more cross aisle populism going on between far-left and far-right influencers, but in my opinion, the far-right is a lot more in touch with people than the far-left. TYT was always more populist than it was progressive, their entire worldview is solely based around what will get them more influence and support from the "working class".
Anyone with a shred of knowledge about the actual political views of the average working class person knows they aren't immediately sympathetic to progressive ideas unless it is something they know they would clearly benefit from. TYT morons decide that becoming socially right wing will be a better way to sell leftist economics and isolationism.
The problem is, they end up looking far more ridiculous than anyone associated with the DSA. You already have to be terminally online to know who TYT is, they have very little following, and valence populism is only appealing to politically alienated dumbfucks who have zero influence or respect by any politically active organization/partisan voters. Ultimately, the far-right just tolerates people like this because it gives them an avenue to get the left to side with them on antisemtism, illiberalism, anti-capitalism and isolationism.
I know the answer. You ready?
States rights?
Nothing?
revenge game for my Houston Texan alt account
This is a good season
RationalWiki is really funny because it gives a perfect glimpse into 2010 liberalism.
Their Bill Kristol article’s main topic is complaining that he endorsed McCain, who’s So Bad That Even Lots Of Republicans Won’t Endorse Him.
When I was an atheist, I am ashamed to admit, I used to love reading rational wiki articles.
I think it’s pretty dumb now, but I still think they have some good articles about certain topics. In fact, I bet you could post their articles about ranked choice voting, majoritarianism, and populism, and get heavily downvoted in leftist Reddit subs.
I have way more respect for out and out atheist organizations than the “satanists”
I have said this before, but I respect hard materialist atheists more than I do people who label themselves as “spiritual but not religious”.
I don’t agree with the hard materialist worldview, but they at least have a logical foundation to their belief system based around the assumption that everything is a result of natural processes. They acknowledge the weakness of the human mind in uncovering the truth, but they reject Divine Revelation and instead trust the scientific method as the best method of finding the truth.
Christians also acknowledge the human mind is flawed and to put our trust in God and scripture. But the “spiritual but not religious people”? If you talk to them it is solely based around anecdotes about their house being haunted, horoscopes being true, or even their feelings. It’s truly just picking and choosing what you want to believe based on whatever they want to be true.
Most atheists don’t become the hard materialist skeptics, instead they will say they don’t believe in God, but they believe in ghosts, demons, healing crystals, astrology, and a lot of other dumb bullshit.
2035 kids be like "you shouldn't have studied something useless like plumbing, there's too many plumbers. You should have studied English prelaw instead."
You shouldn't have gotten that PhD in machine learning from Caltech bro. The AI is making a new algorithm every few weeks and humans can't keep up. Go flip burgers or something
There are always jobs that are both high paying and require less initial investment, time, and education relative to other high paying jobs (Doctor, Lawyer, etc). People quickly gravitate towards those jobs. The market becomes oversaturated. Companies try to find ways to save money by outsourcing and cutting those jobs. The market collapses. You have a ton of people angry that they didn't get what they were promised and start to pressure the government to bring these jobs back. Rinse repeat for the next profession with an attractive profit-cost ratio.
Me becoming a merchant mariner be like:
Same as it ever was
Wait so Israel shot Charlie Kirk because he was gay? I’m confused
No, it was a bee cult that wears maroon shirts
No you fucking retard it was the French Foreign Legion
This discourse is just the “I want to fuck toasters” greentext but for politics. 20 years ago Loomer or Owens or whoever would have told this to some dude at a bar, he’d laugh and say “I’m not sure about that one”, and it would never be discussed again.
You do not ever, in fact, have to hand it to Nick Fuentes, actually.
I can already foresee a Bulwark article on this
Liberals are gonna signal boost this fucking homosexual nazi to the front of conservatism aren't they...
They did it with Trump
Anything to get clicks
Liberals always shine the spotlight on the right’s biggest retards to make themselves look like the sane ones
My boomerlib family members are like this. It is impossible to have a discussion about anything politics related without them finding a way to tie it back into Trump. They refuse to admit that there are people who are far worse than Trump in both parties.
It is honestly so irritating when you can't have an honest discussion about any political issue without it being being completely hijacked by the extreme level of alarmism most of the left is operating under when it comes to Trump and MAGA.
Trump has no master plan to destroy democracy and become the dictator. He is a dumb ass who acts on impulse. He gets joy out of occupying so much of the headspace of his opponents and he is to insecure to admit when he loses.
You can hold that opinion while also thinking the progressive left is going to have a far more corrosive impact on society in the long term and that Trump is probably a bulwark against the increasingly extreme faction of the GOP.
Dems are so bad at politics it's insane
The consequences of living in a bubble
Between the strange new respect for MTG and now this, I’m happy that I’m an unreconstructed 2012 Romney-Ryan conservative
https://x.com/i/status/1997813725928251824
Lmao it would be funny if its true
https://x.com/bennyjohnson/status/1997851675021955483
Oh no!
Anyway…
FOG
FOG?
Something occupied government
Breaking news: Bears still suck
The best QB in Bears history is still Sid Luckman.
Someone's still salty about scaring off wom*n
People are mad about illegal immigration so if we just make all immigration legal that solves the problem, right? Hilarious incompetence
Honestly the conservative pussyfooting around just saying that mass migration is bad damages their legitimacy. Stop saying no we're just against illegal immigration or no we're just against criminal illegals. Just say what you mean.
"Mass migration is bad and we don't want millions of low skilled, third world immigrants entering the US every single year." That is a winning message that 75% of Americans agree on
They're not going to say that because a lot of their big donors in the Tech, Agriculture, and Hospitality sectors are still pretty reliant on said cheap labor, and explicitly running on stopping it will get them to flee to the dems.
Yeah true. Its exactly what happens in Europe too. Stopping immigration from third world countries is unbelievably popular among the entire voter base, but yet both left and right wing parties just keep letting them in no matter what.
For Europe, it's because of their birth rates. With less and less people, there isn't anyone to pay into the welfare system, so you have to import who you can.
But what if the imports suck up welfare also?
By the time the Muslims are old enough for pensions there won't be any Europeans left. Not a problem
My Alma matter spent god knows how much on DEI stuff in 2020 and when I visited last week the new rooms and parts of the building were very visibly closed unlike most other buildings on campus
Best use of donor money ever
Mine promoted someone in the office of student affairs, who was an alumnus of our most bitter rival, and looked like the guy from those cursed Grubhub commercials, then he hired a lady that looked like the pigs from Angry Birds to replace him.
Both were gone in less than a year after huge student/alumni pushback
Funniest thing that my alma mater did was, immediately after the marched with MLK, old guard black mathematician president retired, the first thing the new president did was look for a Vice President of DEI, because apparently we didn't even have one before.
Because they HAD to hire someone with a hyphenated name (Michelle Barnaby-Jones), who holds a BA in Liberal Studies. in a DEI field because they hold a cert they received in a $250 DEI in Academia seminar.
https://x.com/i/status/1997773963859292203
Polis is a retard. A so called libertarian that makes Colorado one of the most regulated states is retarded. Its hilarious watching the progressives start openly despising him though
Polis is overly online whodathunk
https://x.com/PalantirTech/status/1997720487187636260
This is my first time don't like something PALT has done.
Neurodivergent is a bullshit word made up by dumbass low IQ garbage sociologists instead of smart biologists.
I’d rather be called retarded tbh
True. You should just beat your kids until they sit still so they can study and become doctor astronaut!
If I hear another thing about Irish and Italians bringing welfare states they didn’t fucking have at that time to the US during the late 19th to early 20th century, I’m gonna fucking lose it. You would think you would at least blame the Germans since they actually had one during that time.
The Irish brought the other pillar of leftist governance: blatant political corruption
Already there. That’s just New York I suppose.
You can just call it Catholicism
A lot of those Germans were actual socialists too
The Radical Republicans were disproportionately ‘48ers who settled in the Midwest
Canada had this in the form of Finnish immigrants.
They were called "Red Finns" and until WW2 they were the dominant brand of Finnish immigrant. They were actual Leninists and they settled in places like Thunder Bay.
They're notable because they made up a lot of the membership in early Communist orgs in Canada
Thank God for Operation Wetback
Germans have that Protestant work ethic. Italians just want to siesta, commit crime, and worship the pope.
We got a lot of Catholic Germans too let's not let them off the hook.
Re: Japan in WWII
I was taught about Japanese internment as one of the “human rights abuses of the Second World War” in middle school alongside the Holocaust, the nuclear bombings, and a very brief mention of Soviet massacres in Germany.
Japanese war crimes weren’t touched, and we were made to read like 3 stories about how sad Japanese Americans were about Prejudice, and spent a day talking about the word “jap” and it’s harmful implications. That isn’t an exaggeration, that was the premise of its entire lesson.
Shitlibs would rather cause sympathy for the Axis powers among middle schoolers than admit America can be good sometimes.
That's not just a shitlib thing. Conservatives love using the interment camps to attack FDR (They aren't wrong on that, but still).
In general, Japan being a huge ally and China being an enemy is probably the reason it isn't really touched upon, especially since, unlike Germany, we were fine keeping most of that Government (Probably necessary to stop the any Soviet aligned government from taking over, but not a great look nonetheless).
I got scolded once in school for referring to the Axis as Krauts and Japs while in high school.
No regrets. I was right, anyone on the Allied side at the time would have fully agreed with my description.
Duh, because it was done to intentionally be edgy
Same was true for me, and I lived in a red state at the time.
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Do leftoids even believe their own bullshit?
What does "inclusive and equitable" credit scores even mean
https://old.reddit.com/r/LoveForScalpers/comments/n4dv9d/ive_made_this_affirmative_action_guide_to_solve/
Lmao at the top comment
Probably involves helping people who have bad credit score get loans, because we all known loosening the regulations about how financially stable you need to be for a loan has no negative side effects whatsoever!
+100 to your fico if you’re mexican, +150 if you’re black and +200 if you’re Native
What if I am mixed race between two Indian tribes (used to be one, tbf)?
+800 per pronoun
+3000 if you're Palestinian.
I'm shocked you would think they'd put them in that order.
Conservatives with power have still gone too easy on the left.
I think what a lot of people are feeling right now is probably what a lot of conservatives felt during the right wing resurgence after the New Left hippie era. But really it was the hippies who won that cultural battle.
The "woke" identity left isn't dead by any means. And I think the cultural conservatives are making too many of the same mistakes that they did in the 60s-70s
It’s against the nature of conservatism to want to actually undo anything that the left has already accomplished
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I actually was going to post this on a different comment earlier, but changed my mind.
The trump repudiation of "woke", should not be taken as some great victory of conservatism or some great return to traditional values, but simply halting that particular aspect of progressive culture. American society and culture is still degraded and increasingly defined by the lowest common denominator. All it means is if things returned to the same trajectory they were on prior to the mid 2010s
For about six months, anyway.
That's partially because they have no real power. They've captured zero institutions.
And with the little power they do have, it's because the "conservatives" in charge are MAGAtards who are incompetent at everything they do. Imagine that, people whose entire persona is rejecting anything "establishment" are completely clueless at governing.
Do you think its possible for conservatives to destroy a cultural movement? I feel like that's kind of impossible bar authoritarianism
I can walk into any given school in my district and see an infinite amount of implicit and explicit support for social liberalism being endorsed by the curriculum. This is a red county, blue state. I know this because I’m a substitute and walk into those schools on a regular basis.
If we simply rewrote the standards on a national level to no longer use Howard Zinn as the basis for all our liberal arts education, it would do incredible things for us.
How do we do this? There's no national education curriculum. Each district/state sets its own
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Bribery.
Oh they know that
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There are some really obvious first steps that Trump could take but hasn't and won't.
Banning TikTok was a really obvious and easy win. Biden and the Dems already did the legwork. Social media is a huge part of the problem right now and MAGA is unwilling to take it on.
Trump should have done more with the universities too. He seemed willing to go nuclear and then he just kind of backed off after he made a deal with Columbia.
A social media ban wouldn’t do anything to actually address the problem. Bullshit leftie propaganda on Tik Tok or instagram is ultimately a filter and those that buy into it would be shitlibs anyway.
The real solution is to throw the book at leftists who flout the law. Actually detain antifa members for their crimes. Bring charges against the democrats who were encouraging service members to disobey orders. Theres plenty of clearly illegal shit the left gets away with because Pam Bondi is a lazy bimbo.
https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/1pg8c1j/donald_trump_with_the_dells_michael_and_susan_at/
This post is so gross.
just remember libs will not allow you to say a 400 kg 🚂 has an ugly face
"Sexism and racism is okay, but only when I don't agree with their politics".
And then they wonder why people don't believe their crocodile tears about "TRUMP IS SO MEAN!" and "He's breaking all the norms!!!!"
https://x.com/espn/status/1997772829496885471?s=46&t=4KE37irD8YTJMMBgL3HxRA
What a bunch of babies
Most over rated team in CFB history
I mean what's the point in playing in the Tax Slayer Gator Bowl. Who gives a fuck, abolish bowl games already
Lib
As cool as good Indiana is this is an objectively awful time in CFB history
Nah, Oregon is closer than it’s ever been to a championship so it’s great
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grim...
So long as time exists, we will be the some in US (or me not in US, for that matter, little that it matters).
If I order at the counter and get my food at the counter then I am not tipping, I don't care what the iPad says
If you needed a reminder of why the MAGA movement is going to accomplish nothing in the end... Trump is openly admitting that he pardoned Cuellar to try and get him to switch parties and provide a buffer in the House.
But he was so dumb that he didn't actually see if Cuellar would commit to it. The fact that MAGA can't even get a guy who is known for corruption to make a backroom deal is absolutely baffling.
That is so beyond retarded
https://x.com/Araya_Touka_222/status/1997219967696359494
You people can't even imagine whats coming....
Whoa, China is supporting Ukraine?
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Pour one out.
Avenge the Chinese Paddlefish and we won't have to worry
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This psychopath Xitter is everywhere, but self-defines as a "Palestinian" Muslim, so he doesn't live in the West, yeah?
We need a firewall.
He talks about killing Jews on GCs and praises Hitler in DMs, and then randomly changes his opinions and hates on Christians.
T. was on Xshitter
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Who is T?
Lurk moar newfriend.
it's an old meme that means "with regards" basically. Hard to explain it.
You're not supposed to capitalize it though.
Victim of phoneposting.
it is quite clear that every immigrant who tries to kill or assault someone because of book burning, or is gleeful from the aforementioned actions, is harmful to society and should be expelled immediately
Honestly, Quran burnings may be useful to the end of identifying the antisocial element and offering justification for their removal
Yes
No
Thanks Reagan
"You can go to live in France, but you cannot become a Frenchman. You can go to live in Germany or Turkey or Japan, but you cannot become a German, a Turk, or a Japanese. But anyone, from any corner of the Earth, can come to live in America and become an American."