I've gotta say, after over 20+ years of continuous human presence in space it's incredible (in every sense of the word) that this is the first time something like this has happened
Sources at NASA have reported that psychologists with the Russian Aviation and Space Agency cited Soyuz T-14 as ending prematurely due to "mood and performance issues" with the crew. Vasyutin's illness is said to have been caused by a prostate infection or urinary tract infection, which had manifested itself as inflammation and a fever.
So, I watched the press conference. Some key takeaways for me:
Astronaut involved is now fully stable.
They cannot fully diagnose condition with diagnostic equipment on the station.
This will not be an emergency return. They're not doing a get down now mission, they're doing a nominal return as soon as they can. Normal recovery zones, normal recovery assets, not taking on any additional risk on wind/sea states and the like. They can have crew down in 2-3 hours if needed, this will not be that.
This was a health event that had nothing do do with any station operations or operational conditions. Not triggered by anything related to the spacewalk.
Moving Crew-12 up is being discussed, but still have to evaluate.
Artemis is a separate campaign with different teams and assets and preparations for that launch will not affect their decision on timing of Crew 12.
Concerning, of course. The fact this has never happened before is really amazing. But according to my friend at JSC, they've trained for this. They run simulations every week at Mission Control to practice and prepare for tons of scenarios. It's under control.
Even if they don't say which Astronaut has the health problem, more information should be released to the public if we are going to build a space economy with heavy tourism and in person exploration.
The commercial space partners generally hire aerospace medicine-certified flight surgeons who will know the ins and outs of the medical problems which crop up in spaceflight. Once the crewmember is returned safely I’m sure there will be anonymized information (maybe even a case study) shared within the relevant medical teams and possibly even some shared with the public. Speaking from experience.
NASA medical teams also do a lot of sharing of medical requirements and lessons learned with commercial providers, so there’s a healthy degree of cooperation. No one wants to see an astronaut, whether government or private, have medical issues on orbit.
Yeah, telling us, "a thing happened in space and we need to bring the crew back because it's bad... but we won't tell you what it is." isn't exactly going to help anybody.
But what will you gain from knowing?
We know someone has a medical issue, and that's why they're coming back.
It's the same when someone is sick at work, they are under no obligation to inform you about what is wrong, unless it immediately affects you (like when it is contagious).
You don't have a right to this information.
I've gotta say, after over 20+ years of continuous human presence in space it's incredible (in every sense of the word) that this is the first time something like this has happened
First time for the US. The Salyut 7 crew had to return early in a similar circumstance.
Specifically the visiting crew of Soyuz T-14.
From the wiki page:
Over a quarter century (25+ years)! It’s just fun to be able to say that.
So, I watched the press conference. Some key takeaways for me:
It’s honestly incredible they can get a crew down within 2-3 hours
Concerning, of course. The fact this has never happened before is really amazing. But according to my friend at JSC, they've trained for this. They run simulations every week at Mission Control to practice and prepare for tons of scenarios. It's under control.
It's an alien parasite, isnt it.
I saw Lifeforce in the 80s. If they bring back Matilda May, do not kiss her!
idk...I've seen it.... and she might be worth it
Alright fine. I'll take one for the team.
It’d be a really great time for aliens….
It really, really would.
Or a giant asteroid.
It’s not NOT an alien parasite.
Via 3i Atlas
The danger of the space herpey is greatly exaggerated
But not zero.
We were lucky this didn't happen during the Boeing Capsule train wreck.
Not really. They always had contingency plans for the Starliner crew, though depending on timing, it involved lying on the floor of a Dragon capsule.
I agree with this plan.
I wonder if they’ll ever get to fly again after this
Definitely not.
I cant get it to load, does it say what exactly is happening?
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Even if they don't say which Astronaut has the health problem, more information should be released to the public if we are going to build a space economy with heavy tourism and in person exploration.
The commercial space partners generally hire aerospace medicine-certified flight surgeons who will know the ins and outs of the medical problems which crop up in spaceflight. Once the crewmember is returned safely I’m sure there will be anonymized information (maybe even a case study) shared within the relevant medical teams and possibly even some shared with the public. Speaking from experience.
NASA medical teams also do a lot of sharing of medical requirements and lessons learned with commercial providers, so there’s a healthy degree of cooperation. No one wants to see an astronaut, whether government or private, have medical issues on orbit.
ah yes, broadcast someone's private information for money.
Well, there's the very real aspect that it's absolutely none of your business.
It's a hippa violation to be fair
HIPAA
Edit: HIPAA not HIPPA lol
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippa
LOL I have to edit my comment
Yeah, telling us, "a thing happened in space and we need to bring the crew back because it's bad... but we won't tell you what it is." isn't exactly going to help anybody.
But what will you gain from knowing?
We know someone has a medical issue, and that's why they're coming back.
It's the same when someone is sick at work, they are under no obligation to inform you about what is wrong, unless it immediately affects you (like when it is contagious).
You don't have a right to this information.
But they're awkwardly stuck with legal obligations to protect private health matters.
Don't tell us who, tell us what.
This seemed to happen during preparations for an EVA which strongly suggests something related to decompression sickness.
During the news conference the chief medical officer said it had nothing to do with EVA preps.
There was no EVA pre breathe or any type of pressure change in the station the day this happened.
At the press conference they said it didn’t come about from any of their duties.
What’s wrong with them? Any guesses?
Alien bum disease.
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Much more likely to be something more mundane like a cardiac event.
only in space travel would a cardiac event be considered, "mundane." heh.
Unlikely. They've been up there for almost 5 months already, and only had about a month to go on their rotation.
You're probably right, but a month is a long time to someone in distress. Regardless, hope its nothing serious.
and not contagious
They have been on station for 5 months, almost the full planned deployment.
Edit: someone wrote this already.
1/3 chance of guessing who it is so go get your bets in on draftkings everybody
The down voting in this sub is sad and rediculas. Grow up. Not everyone is going to have the same view/opinions.
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I think astronauts are smarter than that, my guy
It would be crazy if it was testicular torsion.
Ww3 here we come