Hi everyone,
My family will be moving to Japan in a couple of months and I'm trying to put a spreadsheet together of what our monthly budget will look like. We'll be living in in semi-rural Aichi, not too far by car to Okazaki or Toyohashi so I've already budgeted for fuel/train costs etc.
I'm just wondering if anybody here is in a similar-ish situation (my wife, myself and two young kids) I'm just trying to find a rough monghly budget for a 4 person household, not including mortgage/rent.
Thanks in advance for any info đ
Predicting what you need/want to spend money on is difficult because the range of what people spend is quite broad. Schools can go from 0 to millions of yen. Clothing, heating, food and holidays also have very broad ranges.
In most cases expenses get scaled to what your income is rather than the other way around. Set your max spend based on income and savings goals and fit the expenditures within that amount.
If you don't mind, about how much is the going rate for your electricity per/kWh? I've heard there can be source options to choose cheaper electricity, is it really worth switching, such as is it easy or a big process?
Similar question for water.
Not who youâre asking, but depending on where you live you may not have control over who you contract with.Â
I live in a mansion, the building has a contract with one electric company, so weâre all required to use that one.Â
This is really going to vary based on income level, location, lifestyle, etc. For example, someone buying only import foods in Tokyo for groceries vs someone cooking only local foods with little meat in a rural area, etc.Â
But out of curiosity I pulled up one of my financial docs from this past year. This is just a random snapshot of a month: As a family of three we spent about $700USD on groceries, $300 on eating out, $100 on household goods, $200 on clothes, and $800 on kid activities (mostly after school program).Â
Caveat: this is a random month, not a monthly average. Also, we didnât travel that monthâ we like to travel domestically a lot (to enjoy living in Japan). And of course, someone is going to pop on and say âYou spend HOW much on XYZ?!?â Everyoneâs lifestyle and budget is different.
ETA: this is our expenses as an âestablishedâ family. When we first arrived we were basically bleeding cash due to startup costs (furnishing a place, new clothes for kid as she outgrew whatever we brought, initial fees for kid stuff, etc).
Thanks for the reply.
Eating out is not something we do a lot. My wife loves cooking, and the kids are happy if they can go to McDonald's, Burger King etc. once a month so most of our meals will be eaten at home. My father in law has a few rice fields so don't need to buy rice.
The $2100 you mentioned works out at around ÂŁ1550, which is ÂŁ150 less than I was budgeting. I'm also talking about a "flat" month, so not including travel or any sort of big expenditure, just a run of the mill month.
I guess what I'm really asking is more an average cost of utilities. Obviously, this time of year will be higher with the extra heating, lighting etc.
To be honest some grocery bills might be mixed into âeating outâ since sometimes we have to use uber eats for grocery, but no idea for that month.Â
In December my electric bill was 11,900 yen. Water bill 8,800 yen, gas 12,000 yen. For a 4LDK in a new-ish mansion. With some family spending time out our place.Â
ETA: honestly we spend about the same year round because we probably use more electricity in the summer. Our mansion is well insulated but summer heat is brutal (live in Kanto).Â
That's something you've to figure out. There is absolutely no way anyone here can just throw out a number and make it somewhat fit your situation based on what little information you provided.
General rule of thumb for average salaries is 33% rent (including utilities), 33% daily expenses and 33% saving.
If your salary is high enough, that rule goes out the window because at some point spending 33%/66% of your salary on daily expenses / rent is ridiculous and just money thrown out the window.
Similarly, if your salary is low, it's more like 50% rent, 40% daily expenses and 10% saving.
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Hi everyone,
My family will be moving to Japan in a couple of months and I'm trying to put a spreadsheet together of what our monthly budget will look like. We'll be living in in semi-rural Aichi, not too far by car to Okazaki or Toyohashi so I've already budgeted for fuel/train costs etc.
I'm just wondering if anybody here is in a similar-ish situation (my wife, myself and two young kids) I'm just trying to find a rough monghly budget for a 4 person household, not including mortgage/rent.
Thanks in advance for any info đ
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Turn it around. Take your salary and base your expenses from there. Donât forget taxes, nenkin, hoken, and your kids schools.
As people said, each family is different. But as a family of 4, we spent ~7M yen in total last year. Since our mortgage is ~2M, that put our bill at ~5M annually, ~420k monthly.