My (hot?) take is that Jack Nicholson's character in As Good As it Gets should not have managed to land Helen Hunt at the end. As we went through the third act of that film I thought the lesson was going to be that some relationships work better as friendships than romantic partnerships, and that Nicholson, Hunt, and Kinnear were going to form an oddball friend group after Nicholson realized it's just not meant to be. I was FLOORED when he tried one more time at the end and it worked.
Anyways, other examples?
Dracula, because that's not how the book was but somehow that's how all incarnations ended up after Coppolas version
Yes! Every time someone mentions the love story in Dracula, I ask if they mean between Jonathan and Mina, as that was the love story on the page. Bugs me so much that every adaptation has to have a Dracula/Mina love story since Coppola did it.
Also, a love story about everyone doing everything they can for Lucy, first in life, then through undeath, and then avenging her. Even after she rejected their proposals (to choose Arthur), Seward and Quincy love Lucy so much they would risk their lives for her, over and over again.
The suitors of Lucy are so ignored in every adaptation but they are the core team that destroys Dracula.
Van Helsing is just exposition given flesh and Harker is cuckolded in his own bed but Holmward, Seward, and Morris are the avenging warriors that take the fight right to the castle gates.
I mean, Herzog's version had that 14 years prior.
Its extra weird that they keep doing it too because the book has pretty heavy themes of Sexual Assault and its both with the male and female victims of Dracula
The scene where the Brides attempt to feed on Jonathan Harker is written like a rape scene, the book is not even remotely subtle about it
Book: Jonathan and Mina love each other and support each other through the SA-coded trauma they just went through. Show how love can help you overcome some of your darkest moments.
Movies: Jonathan cheats on Mina with the brides or just generally is lame. Mina is Dracula's true reincarnated love and doesn't care at all that he killed her friend.
Seriously, in the book, Jonathan promises that if Mina becomes a vampire, he'll do the same so she won't face it alone. They're soulmates who have each other's backs no matter what. And yet that almost never shows up in adaptations.
It’s crazy that Coppola’s Dracula movie is the most book accurate movie while at the same time missing the whole point of the book entirely.
They did Mina, Lucy, Renfield and yorkshire terriers dirty in the movies. They were all much more heroic in the book.
Mina's amazing in the book. And the scene where they burst in her room to find Dracula feeding on her and he basically tells them how he'll kill them all is one of the best villain scenes ever written.
Makes me realise a movie adaptation should be a grindhouse revenge movie where van helsing trains them and they hunt down and kill Dracula and his minions
Would Passengers count?
The main character essentially dooms his love interest to spend the rest of her life only with him and even after she finds out, she stays with him in the end.
First thing I thought of. Could’ve been a great “sci-fi adventure turns thriller” but it just ended up feeling like a film that ignored its own potential.
100% agree. Somebody made a YT video where they rearranged bits and it's much better and creepier
Nerdwriter1 - He's a bit of a genius in general, but this was a particularly savvy rewrite concept that makes you think it must have been like this in the first place.
I think about that edit often. It really is a horror from her perspective.
Yes, it should have been told from her POV as she figures out her pod didn’t malfunction.
The movie would be much stronger if it didn't cop out and ”redeem" Chris Pratt by having him risk his life to save the ship.
If I were to rewrite the ending, Pratt would have died. Then Jennifer Lawrence goes crazy from loneliness and wakes up someone else to be her companion.
I love this. It doesn't redeem Pratt, but it does make his actions more understandable.
Also switch the timelines a bit. Start with her waking up, then slowly realizing what happened. Turns it into a psychological thriller.
That would definitely make a decent thriller, but this ending probably wouldn't resonate as well with a thriller. I think there's potential for a tragedy about what desperate people will do to survive, and it's hard to tell that story with mystery and intrigue.
Nah, end it with her looking at another pod and considering it. Leave it vague at the end so the audience gets to consider what they would do in the same scenario.
Could you live alone for years, even decades with human contact just out of reach? Or would you doom another person to share your fate, to live and die alongside you and never see the home they left for? How long until you started rationalizing it?
Bee Movie
I love how they give the sick bee a full sized hospital bed, some poor chump waiting in the emergency room and can’t get a bed
It was a mixup, the other guy had to use a bee sized bed.
I honestly thought people were exaggerating how bad that movie was. It’s a kid movie calm down.
No. No do not calm down the reaction was justified wtf.
No Bee Movie is a laugh riot. I don't understand how anyone could think its bad.
It has lines like this.
Mosquito Lawyer: I was already a blood sucking parasite I just needed a brief case.
Another really good one.
Barry: How about a suicide pact?
Vanessa: How do we do it?
Barry: I'll sting you, you step on me.
Vanessa: That just kills you twice.
You like jazz?
Also Jack Nicholson, something's got to give. Pick Keanu Reeves!
It might help to know that both Keanu and Diane hinted that they dated during the filming of the movie (and remained close friends all the years after).
I'm definitely telling my mom that
LOL you know Diane Keaton wanted Keanu so bad but had to pick Jack because of their ages
Keanu makes me absolutely SWOON in this role.
I am forever mad that Diane ends up with f*cking Jack Nicholson in this movie.
My mom has seen like three movies but I showed her this one at some point and she was extremely mad that Diane Keaton ended up with Jack Nicholson. She was ready to marry Keanu herself.
Aren't we all
Sky High. We all wanted the girl best friend to wind up with Warren Peace
Apparently the movies were originally planned as a trilogy and they were going to end up together, but the first one didn’t do that well so that plan was scrapped. We were robbed.
This piece of info just both made and ruined my day
aka James Holden (recently started rewatching him in THE EXPANSE)
James Holden.
Miller was played by Thomas Jane.
no but only because I wanted to end up with him
Will and Layla were better as friends tbh.
I agree and I’m someone who likes the friends to lovers trope. But not for them
Top 5 character names of all time btw
I love High Fidelity but after all that behavior Laura shouldn't have gotten back with Rob.
A lot of John Cusack movies really.
Except Grosse Pointe blank, I'll give him that one.
Get your patchouli stink outta my store!
I watched that movie last week. Rob is an asshole.
I used to relate to this character heavily in my 20s. A couple decades on, I'm comfortable enough with myself to confirm that he was, in fact, an asshole
Yeah same here. As a younger guy I thought his "damn the man" professional routine was cool but his insistence at being unable to conceptualize a future for himself much less the person he wanted to share his life with makes him a huge asshole.
Like Rob what's the point man? Why even do any of this stuff.
To his credit, Rob literally says the same exact thing about himself, specifically after he confesses three things: that he cheated on her, while she was pregnant, and still owes her $5,000.
It's not a hero's journey, it's a self-indulgent story about a selfish, immature 30-something who's at least (according to him, at least), trying to become a slightly less shitty person. Naturally, us in our 20s couldn't see through the bullshit.
Cheers
Well, Liz was correct. He is an ASSHOLE!
Great choice. What a very well realised dickhead he is
Contact. McConaughey screwed Jodie Foster in the first selection hearing (though it's good he did). He comes back in the end of the third act and she says "it's okay" and they kiss. Hell no girl! Respect yourself?l!
Yeah he sabotaged her dream in life without warning for selfish reasons. No getting over that
Screwed her over because the fact that she was an Atheist meant that she thought that billions of people on the Earth were "wrong", despite the fact that many of them would say the same thing about each other.
Yeah there's a great quote that is like "everyone religious believe in one god or another and there are many of them, I just believe in one less."
Tbh I left Materialists thinking that the couple that winds up together in the end were completely ridiculous, and were either destined to break up before actually making it down the aisle or at least would certainly wind up divorced within five years, lol.
You just know they still have a few mutual friends who found out they were back together and immediately were like, "Oh jfc these idiots are really trying again?!"
Third act of that movie was a let down. I was very much hoping for a modern, realistic subversion of all the tropes it fell into. I wonder if the original script was different.
Tbh I understand why she didn't wind up with Pedro's character (she was looking for love, and he was struggling with the idea that he was capable of that - I get it) but he was still a far better option for her than Chris Evans' character was, lol.
Yeah, he was a known commodity. I feel like the whole soul mate in disguise (I can't not love you) was such a cop out from what seemed like the pragmatic messaging of the film. It started strong, but ended up in the same place as any rom-com. That's why I suspect studio influence.
I was really hoping she would end up single, and maybe meet a potential match in the last scene or something. To really drive home the point that you need both love and practicality for a relationship to work out.
This Means War. Chris Pine spends half the movie gaslighting Reese Witherspoon into thinking he’s a perfect match. In reality, he used his connections at the CIA to spy on her, show up abruptly at work, learn her interests to pass them off as his own, and breaking into her home. The red flags in that movie are insane.
Not to mention that Chris Pine’s character reveals at the end that he slept with Tom Hardy’s ex wife (even though they weren’t married anymore? at the time) years prior and never said anything.
Chris Pine’s character then tried to justify it by saying Tom Hardy ALSO slept with Reese Witherspoon while they were both after her to which Tom Hardy reveals he never did, he just made Chris Pine think he did.
For me that gave extra points for Tom Hardy because although he knew Reese and Chris slept together and could have slept with her as well, he respected her enough to not do so as well.
They may both have been after her but I feel Tom Hardy’s character actually wanted her as a person while Chris Pine’s character didn’t really see a future with her.
Apparently the first version of the film was even worse. Test audiences definitely wanted her to end up with the much nicer character of Tom Hardy. So they inserted the later scene where CP shows some decency (I forget which, been a long while since I saw it) to justify her choice.
I prefer the ending in the bloopers/extras where Tom jumps into Chris's arms at the end.
Not only that, but the most unrealistic part of that film was that she chose Chris Pine's character when Tom Hardy was right there. An absolutely flabbergasting decision.
Every Woody Allen movie where he is the romantic lead.
...way back, before all the scandals, I loved how he was lectured and left behind in Manhatten (1979). It was right on point.
Yeah, one of the most beautiful and (in retrospect) red--flag laden movies ever made.
Ocean's 11, George Clooney did nothing to deserve getting Julia Roberts back.
They just showed that Andi Garcia cared more about money, that didn't mean she had to go back to Clooney.
“That’s my husband!” Is it though lol
"Yes, Tess, of course I told your thief ex-con of an ex-husband who just robbed me that I would give you up in exchange for my $160 million back. I just told him what he wanted to hear."
As far as I can tell, Scott Pilgrim didn't deserve any of the girls he dated. Knives was a high school student, dear God.
One of the things I love about the story - all his friends call him out on his shitty behavior, but he ignores them and presses on. Every woman made the correct decision to leave him behind.
( TBH, his friends were kinda shitty, too - but they admitted their faults )
Also Nega-Scott is "a really nice guy" because he's got the opposite of all Scott's qualities.
In the original writing of the comic he actually ended up alone but a better person. That ending was changed after some talks with Edgar Wright during the filming if the movie as the story hadn't been completed by that point so it was changed that he ended up with Ramona and they both admitted they were shitty people.
In the comic Ramona and scott both grew tremendously even before the final battle
And his friends see his growth and some of them help him with it in interesting ways. He jilted Kim, and it's clear she is still holding onto a very complicated version of that. But when she sees him faltering against the Katyanagi Twins, she acknowledges their past mistakes and that he's growing and changing. So she lets him go by making him think Ramona was rooting for him.
Ya, how the fuck did that guy get Envy Adams? He wasn’t even a vegan.
They dated before she got famous. They were both just high school kids in a shitty band together, right?
Great movie, but yes, I think the best ending is Scott, Ramona, and Knives all going solo to continue figuring their own shit out. But people get back together for all sorts of reasons, so it's not unrealistic.
Robin Williams' character in Flubber did not deserve to get married in the end. It was established that he repeatedly missed his own damn wedding because he's so "absent-minded" and obsessed with his work that he keeps forgetting, and by the end of the movie he still hasn't learned a damn thing because he missed his own wedding AGAIN. And no, the fact that he "attended" remotely with a screen and camera doesn't make it better, it means he actively chose not to attend because he thinks his work is more important. This man clearly is not ready for a real relationship.
Flubber is a remake of an older and far better film, The Absent-Minded Professor, where they end up together. Thus they didn’t change the ending.
That movie does however end with him weaponizing flubber and selling it to the US government.
100% I thought that movie was funny but the character didn't learn anything meaningful at all. No change to warrant getting back with his ex.
Ghostbusters.
I fucking LOVE that movie, but Bill Murray is an absolute slimeball in it (not knocking him; he had that character perfected) and yet somehow ends up with Dana? Dude should've ended up with Zuul.
A lot of Bill Murray's characters are absolute creeps. He's genuinely full of red flags in Stripes and Groundhog Day
She has a baby with somebody else in the second one though
Man came to a date with some roofies ready to go! A true scientist, always prepared for possessions
Wedding Crashers.
Vince Vaughn's character is played for comedy relief, but during his bonkers relationship with Isla Fisher's character, he goes through a process of self discovery and growth. He deserves the happy ending that he gets.
Owen Wilson's character is a creep and a sad sack who mostly learns nothing but gets the girl anyway just by trying one last time.
Edit: yeah of course Vaughn's character starts off as a creep, but by the end he has learned he's a specific type of freak and he found the right woman for a relationship based on mutual understanding.
"I'm not asking you to marry me. I'm just asking you not to marry him!"
Vince and Owen's characters are both creeps for most of the movie but true love changes their evil ways and we're supposed to cheer them at the end
I agree that's how we're supposed to see it, and it's how I remember it from decades ago. But Owen Wilson's arc doesn't hold up on rewatch now that I'm an old man.
Love changes Vince's character, but it does it via a process of self-discovery as he bounces off another character.
Love makes Owen Wilson's character want to be different, but doesn't give us evidence of him changing, and doesn't show anything change between he and the love interest either. He just kinda shows up and mouths the correct words after feeling sad for a good bit of run time.
I think it’s a fine line between rooting for Wilson and rooting against Cooper.
I don’t think we’re supposed to see a redemption arc for Wilson’s character, rather he awakens Rachel McAdams to a world that she wants and deserves. His quote at the altar of Vaughn’s wedding to her is something like, “I’m not asking you to marry me, I’m just asking you not to marry him.”
... and you didnt even mention Chaz.
Chaz is perfect. No notes.
MA! THE MEATLOAF! FAHCK!
She's the Man.
Clearly Viola and Olivia had the most chemistry.
man i had the biggest thing for olivia when i was a teenager watching this
He’s not a piece of meat, Olivia!!
My Fair Lady...yes, I understand it's Pygmalion, but fuck Henry Higgins and especially Rex Harrison. He should have ended up alone because he's The Worst.
The thing is, in Pygmalion, Eliza and Henry DON'T get together. Henry wants her to stay with him, but as "old bachelors" ie NOT romantic. Eliza refuses and tells him she won't see him again.
And this infuriated a lot of people who wanted a traditional romantic ending. But Shaw knew what he was doing.
I got to see a production where they used the original ending and it was honestly incredible.
It was at the Shaw Festival in Niagara-on-the-Lake, so it had some strange avant garde moments, but I thoroughly enjoyed it.
Do they actually send up together at the end or is it ambiguous? Been a while since I've watched, but iirc he's expressing actual emotion at her having left, then she comes back, and he immediately reverts to the same boorish personality that pushed her away to begin with, and credits roll. If that's how it went, it implies to me that he has the capability to be someone she could love, but he's got too much masculine pride to actually be that person, and so he never will get what he wants.
In the play, it's left ambiguous but you know how audiences are, they expect happy endings.
The most recent production of the My Fair Lady musical, he apologizes and she spurns him.
It is ambiguous enough that, as a kid, I had to ask my parents, "Is she still going to marry Freddy?"
I'm still not clear if Henry wanted to marry her himself (I kinda assumed he's gay for Pickering?) Or if he just thought marrying Freddy was beneath her as she now had every opportunity available to her.
If it helps, Shaw wrote an entire essay about how she did marry Freddy and of course she didn’t end up with Higgins.
This is a funny way to phrase it because in the play the characters do not end up together. George Bernard Shaw hated the idea, but audiences revolted, and a lot of productions started to try to find ways around the ending by implying they might get back together. And then My Fair Lady just outright changed the ending.
Yeah this is why I have such a love hate relationship with that movie! I LOVE the songs and I like her character but DAMN I wanted to throttle everyone else in that house!! It would have been weird but interesting if she had ended up with Freddy.
He's not just the worst! He's also a thousand years older than she is. And they didn't have the slightest bit of romantic chemistry at any point at all.
Like, I can't even picture them kissing.
Mission impossible: The Final Reckoning. Ethan moved on from Elsa pretty quick. It would’ve been cool if his drive to complete the mission was more about avenging her.
This one is a gripe of mine - I guess because the two leads are an ideal couple to me, up there with Evie and Rick from The Mummy franchise - my single ass low key thought Ethan and Ilsa were ideal kickass goals. Then she dies and he moves on fast. I know it’s just a film, but still, I was angry about it…
I was so angry too. I love Hayley Atwell, but I wanted Ethan to have a Quantum of Solace-style sulk after Ilsa and just stay platonic with Hayley’s character.
Elsa's death is so damn shitty. How does a competent warrior with a short-sword get killed by a thug with a fucking dagger? She keeps closing distance with him when she could have skewered his balls for a damn shish-kebab from a foot away.
That death was unearned. Would have been better if she was just shot.
A Knight’s Tale, not because there was anything wrong with William — I just thought he had better chemistry with the blacksmith/Lydia from Breaking Bad.
The Princess was kinda crazy too.
"Prove you love me by losing, actually I changed my mind, if you love me you better win."
I’m certain I’ve heard that this is a retelling of a Lancelot legend. Where Guinevere had him lose as a test of his loyalty/devotion to her. So that’s why they included it
Yeah, Guienevere tells him "fight badly".
Guienevere was also kinda crazy in some Arthurian stories.
Sometimes descended from giants, obviously cheats on Arthur, very jealous which often leads Lancelot to go crazy in a forest and sometimes agrees to marry Mordred to cement his claim to usurp Arthur's throne.
Really just depends on the writer.
Yeah, that's why I didn't like her. He deserved better. I guess she fit the maniac pixie girl type of the time.
Nah, I liked that Kate was allowed to be one of the friends without needing to be paired off with a man. Besides, she was still very much in love with and mourning her husband.
This. I disliked the princess and would have loved if they had developed his relationship with Laura Fraser's character instead.
She's great in everything. Anyone here seen Titus?
I see now you're talking about 1999 Titus starring Anthony Hopkins, and not the 2001 TV FOX show starring Christopher Titus. I'm a little disappointed, to be honest. :-)
I didn't realize that was her, she barely aged between that movie and Breaking Bad.
The Switch. It’s kind of an evil movie but pretends to be sweet. Jason Bateman plays a dorky asshole stuck in the friendzone with his hot friend played by Jennifer Aniston. She’s single and wants a baby, and has linked up with a handsome professor of feminist literature who agrees to donate his sperm. The friend gets drunk and swaps out her donor’s sperm with his own, forcing her to have his baby. Years later, the professor and the female friend are dating, and after the truth comes out about her son, she inexplicably winds up the friend. I hate it.
That whole plot is disgusting.
The plot is terrible, but how it plays out makes it much worse. Bateman’s character is whiny, unlikable, and entitled. The fem lit professor is really just a nice guy. He never reveals himself to be an asshole later on or anything. Aniston’s character has no reason to choose the friend over the professor. She never really falls in love with the friend, she just kinda gives in at the end. Even if you ignore the antifeminist vibe, it’s a pretty crappy romance in general. Couldnt believe it played out the way it did.
Kickass, pretending to be gay to get close to a girl you fancy is gross.
In the comic it doesn't work and he gets the shit kicked out of him, much better.
That creeped me out so much. Not only did he pretend to be gay to get close to her, but his big plan to hook up with her was to sneak into her room in costume and have sex with her without telling her who he was.
That's Revenge of the Nerds level disturbing.
I remember thinking it bizarre that she found out and pretty much immediately pivoted to having sex with him despite the huge violation of her trust. Of course, she was an oddly written character who volunteered in a Homeless Shelter while she was simultaneously dating a murderous gang-banger (IIRC).
The Threesome. It just came out this year. The male lead is so dull and boring that I'm still confused as to what either women saw in him.
They should've just pulled a Korrasami and cut the guy out of the equation.
Sweet Home Alabama. What on earth is is Reese Witherspoon doing picking her manipulative ex husband and not kind-gentle-handsome-rich Patrick Dempsey??
Yesssss. Then she leaves him at the alter and he says “okay” with a half smile. Like what
The original ending had her and the ex going to the beach during the storm and both getting killed by a lightning strike. I wish they had stuck with that.
Edge of Tomorrow / Live Die Repeat
I thought their chemistry was better essentially as colleagues. The kiss at the end just felt like they were ticking boxes.
I feel like a lot of movies do that tbh. Pacific Rim managed to avoid it though. The two pilots are shown more like very close friends/colleagues who are fighting side-by-side and have shared experience rather than a cliched romance.
YES! One of my favorite movie moments ever! Raleigh and Mako kneeling on the life raft, facing each other…they’re going to kiss…but they just didn’t. It was wonderful.
YES. You can tell they heavily considered it in the movie but in the end they just cared for and respected each other. 🥹
A fellow Pacific Rim enjoyer I see!
I think it might be time for a rewatch!
That kind of scene always reminds me of Brendan Fraser in The Mummy.
"I thought I was gonna die. Seemed like a good idea at the time"
But ... they don't end up together. That was a future that didn't end up happening, and always felt to me like a "we're both going to die" moment than one of romantic love. In the end, he's going to her and she has no idea who he is. There's no indication they end up together, just indication that the first person he wants to see after his ordeal is her, the only person who will actually understand what he went through.
Basically any comedy movie where a relatively normal woman ends up with a total lunatic dude. Like in Elf for example there’s no need for Buddy and Zooey Deschanel to get together. Or take your pick of Adam sandler movies.
what i like about elf is it takes the manic pixie dreamgirl trope and flips the genders. Even utilizes Zooey Deschanel and doesn't make her the manic pixie.
Watched Elf again the other day and somehow that romance was the least believable part about a baby being raised amongst Santa's elves in the north pole. Will Ferrell looks way too old for her, and is completely insane.
The heart of that movie is buddy’s relationship with his father so the emotional payoff comes from the father accepting buddy into his family; the ending scene where he ends up married to Zooey feels so tacked on an unnecessary. They never really establish what Zooey sees in this lunatic twice her age
And they had a baby??! I don’t wanna imagine buddy the elf learning about sex
To be fair the women in Adam Sandler movies are not normal in that they are insanely hot.
Pretty much any romantic comedy with Jim Carrey. He's basically a real-life loony tune and it's hilarious seeing him behave like an absolute lunatic around normal, highly confused people. It's much harder to root for his perfectly nice ex-wife to ditch her stable, super nice boyfriend so she can get back with him in Liar Liar, after he's acted like a total meth-head and committed enough crimes to be in jail for the next 5 years.
Martha May Whovier and the Grinch are soulmates and I won't hear otherwise.
You know what, I can’t argue with that
Eternal Sunshine tho
This is the big exception, he’s incredible in Eternal Sunshine
Don't underestimate the power of The Claw.
Sorry Cary Elwes. You just didn't have it.
Anakin in Star Wars. There’s just so many red flags and Padme goes for him anyways.
Murdered sentient sandppl. Complains all the time. Nearly beheads her by accident. Loses his hand & nearly gets himself & Obi Wan killed.
And all of this happens before they officially hook up, also before he goes all Emo.
Not just sandpeople. Sandwomen and sandchildren.
Dude just loved killing children.
The Notebook. That carousel (edit: or Ferris Wheel i don't rmmbr) stunt was red flag crazy behavior
I believe he hung 2 feet off the ground on a carousel to get a second date with her. I have no reason to believe this, but it's what I now choose to believe.
Pretty in Pink
Passengers
Pretty much any teen romcom from the 90's. They were such bad examples for guys of that generation.
Not just a bad example for guys, but for girls too. "I can fix him!"
I recently re-watched Reality Bites for the first time since the 90's and... oof, that movie has not aged well. Ethan Hawke's character is a piece of shit man-child who spends the entire movie negging Winona Ryder, while Ben Stiller commits the crime of being a SNAG in the 90's; so of course she chooses the bad boy who is inevitably going to divorce her after several years of escalating abuse.
Hard to beat your example from a pure chemistry point of view.
About Time is one I struggle with. I think it's a fantastic movie, great ending, Domhall Gleeson, etc. But I'm not entirely sure he should've actually ended up with Rachel McAdam's character. The whole concept of the film is he uses time travel to convince her to be with him. Which in of itself has some nefarious implications lol.
But it's a Richard Curtis movie, so yeah, that wasn't going to happen. Still love it.
The Notebook. Dude gets a date by basically saying "Go out with me or I'll kill myself!" and then proceeds to be red flag city.
I think Allie should've stayed with Lon instead of running back to Noah in The Notebook. Lon seemed like a really kind guy and supportive of her, while Noah felt manipulative at times
Agree. And Allie enjoyed her upper class life, the outings with her parents and Lon. Lon was a good guy, she would have been able to study or travel or whatever she wanted with him. I don’t think she would have been trapped.
Sure she freaked out at the wedding dress fitting but she would have been perfectly happy with Lon if Noah hadn’t reappeared.
Humphrey Bogart should not have gotten Audrey Hepburn in Sabrina. His character was dull and lifeless, a total misfit for Sabrina’s joie vivre
The remake with Harrison Ford and Julia Ormond was more believable in that respect.
Still not sure he should have gotten the girl, but more believable than the other movie.
Top Gun --- Maverick seemed really in love with Charlie and then in the 2nd movie never mentions her LOL
I mean, it's literally 36 years later. They could've been together for years and still been apart several decades.
"She lost that loving feeling. "
And she liked women, so there's that.
He only lasted 6 weeks as an instructor at Top Gun. She turned down a job at the Pentagon to be with him and he gets transferred after a month and a half.
She would have been pissed.
Rule 1: Jack always gets the girl.
Rule 2: if Jack doesn't get the girl, rule 1 kicks in.
Not when the other man is Batman
The originial Overboard is very egregious, I mean the movie is even self aware that what Dean is doing is highly immoral , but she still falls for him in the end.
I guess Gone Girl would be the gender swap example
There is absolutely no reason Jack Nicholson and Helen Hunt’s characters should end up together in As Good As It Gets.
Reality Bites
Shia Labeof in Transformers 3. The first movie put him in the ONLY POSSIBLE SITUATION where he had a chance with someone like Meghan Fox.
Then in the 3rd one they’ve broken up and he’s dating ANOTHER supermodel, only she’s British.
He meets the president and has a lot of awards and recognition plus he owns a few autobots. Hes not treated like some random guy
Star Wars The Rise of Skywalker.
I'm sorry but why in the corny everliving enemies-to-lovers fuck are Rey and Ben Solo kissing when for an entire trilogy he has been committing war crimes including kidnapping and torturing her?
There was zero romantic tension between them for three movies - only Rey's hope that Ben could be redeemed and Ben's desire to use her power to help him rule the galaxy.
I hate so much about TRoS but that kiss is the most egregious part. Seems like it was just there to please a vocal "Reylo" fandom on Twitter and not because it made any sense in the context of the broader narrative.
Revenge of the nerds, he literally rapes her
Sixteen Candles, The Geek being gifted the girl is super creepy.
This one’s for Duckie. Pretty in Pink.
All the guys in Love, Actually. But maybe I just hate that whole movie.
Except for Liam Neeson and Thomas Brodie Sangster. Those 2 deserved happiness in the end.
I'd add Martin Freeman's character, too. He was polite and decent from what I remember
I wish Notting Hill ended 10 minutes earlier with Hugh Grant keeping his dignity and turning down Julia Roberts after she bad mouthed him.
Danny getting Sandy at the end of Grease. Why should she change the way she is to be with him?
But he changed the way he was to be with her?!?
This is what nobody gets/sees/notices.
"Aww, come on guys, you know you mean a lot to me, it's just that Sandy's does too, and I'm going to do everything I can to get her."
That always gets missed when this argument gets brought up.
Because they were subverting expectations on the bad boy goes good trope of the time, by making the good girl go bad.
Chris Pratt in passengers. He obsessed over a stranger, then woke her up essentially condemning her.