The Kelly Reichardt anthology movie Certain Women. Which she is incredible in & as I have heard it, was what caught Scorsese’s attention eventually leading to her being cast in KotFM.
Not DiCaprip imo, I dont feel his role brought as much to the table as either of the other two actors you mentioned. DeNiro in particular, should have absolutely taken an award home.
Huge Leo fan here, I agree - pretty usual Leo stuff in this one. I found his performances in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood and One Battle After Another to be much stronger and obvious Oscar snubs
"Once Upon a Time in Hollywood" is one of his best as an adult. I felt like he was actually acting in that role, whereas I usually find him too self-consciously performative. He was the only weak link in "Django Unchained."
Di Caprio just seemed to be acting like a citizen of Idiocracy. He came off so dumb that I couldn't reconcile him being clever enough to pull of the crimes that De Niro's character pushed him to do. However, I also couldn't reconcile him being dumb enough to believe that he wasn't poisoning his wife when De Niro's character was doing all these other crimes against the indigenous people, and at the end we're supposed to believe that he actually loved her? Nope. Not for a second.
Can't agree on De Niro's performance this time. I didn't find him threatening at all. Seemed to me like he phoned it in.
Gladstone was the clear standout, which is damned impressive given how little time her character had onscreen before she spent most of it in a poisoned stupor.
The book, while being more factual and less character driven to such information being lost to too much time passing, was much better.
The three main character arcs were not well written, and the story hinges on that necessity.
Scorsese coming out at the end and doing an old-timey radio announcement was a really bad call and a waste of time. He basically just told us what we just watched, and it felt preachy instead of necessary, especially if you already agreed with the point of the story.
I think you hit everything roght om, except for DeNiro. My impression of his role was that was a smarmy, slimy, greedy dirtbag. Nothing in his character gave me "terrifying" vibes, and I don't feel like it was ever meant to feel that way in the film, with the exception that from the perspective of a Native American that has everything to lose, this type of person is absolutely the biggest threat.
I'm glad you enjoyed him. I didn't find anything interesting or compelling about him. I feel like there should have a suggestion of deeply calculated menace emanating off him like heat from stove, but he mostly seemed to just be mildly irritated. It just didn't work for me.
What the hell, I was literally just thinking about how this doesn't have a physical release like half an hour ago. I guess that's a sign that I have to buy this.
I firmly believe had Ray Liotta been cast, the film would've been better. (1) Liotta is actually non-Italian which is a massively important to the story and (2) is slightly younger than De Niro which means the de-aging would've worked better and also is a tad bit more physically fit for the role. Not to mention, it would've been a great reunion amongst the Goodfellas cast to have all three return (just cast De Niro elsewhere).
On paper, it’s a great concept. The depiction of a mob guy who truly treats it like a job and doesn’t mess around, plays by “The rules”, doesn’t act flashy. What does that look like?
Liotta is actually non-Italian which is a massively important to the story
Tbf De Niro isn't really "Italian" either, even by weird American standards. He literally had one Italian grandparent and that's it, he's just always played into it more with his film roles
Holy shit, Testament wrecked me. I watched it with my dad when I was younger just expecting a regular 70s sci-fi kinda thing and just being crushed. That scene in the garage really stuck with me.
I've seen a ton of horror movies in my life, but THREADS is truly the most horrific movie I've ever seen. It's worth a watch, but you'll never want to watch it twice.
Killers is perhaps my favorite movie of the decade. I liked Oppenheimer, but I didn’t quite get all the fuss. It was probably my #9 choice of all the Best Picture nominees that year.
I think if you also compare both these movies in terms of their attempt to address historical tragedies and contemporary legacies, KOTFM does circles around Oppenheimer.
I agree. I wanted to like it, but the character writing was poor and the direction didn't help. I would recommend the book. It sticks to the facts and is a very enjoyable read with enough detail to make it compelling despite the lack of distinct characters.
Agreed, and that should be the point. What bothers me about the film is that the story mainly revolves around the white characters. The indigenous people only get cursory screen time.
Lily Gladstone did what she could, but she spent so much of her time in a poisoned stupor that it really limited her ability to present a strong indigenous perspective. I also did not understand how a seemingly intelligent and perceptive woman could fall for an obvious fumblefuck like Ernest.
Totally agree. I think it was way too long for the story. Leo over-acted another slow adult. The real story was how the FBI worked to create itself and new technologies just for these cases. Jesse Plimmons character was the main guy.
That fire scene in native 4K is going to look incredible. The compression on the stream really struggled with the dark scenes so this is a day one buy.
Flowers was a bad adaptation of the book. It was another vehicle for Leo to act slightly retarted. The main story should have been the FBI search and the new technologies created just for these crimes. Leo's character was a bad guy but its more interesting from the other angle like the book.
I write this even though I am a fan if everyone involved in this film.
First Criterion release to ever feature Leonardo DiCaprio.
But it is the second Criterion to feature Lily Gladstone!
Jesus that's weirdly really crazy to hear, but then somewhat understandable once you think about it
Kinda crazy it's this movie too because it's not Leo's best imo or a movie where he's much of a real "lead"
Meh, it's a movie about aging made by men who are aging. The CGI is part of the film's thesis imo and it fits
EDIT: The random downvotes tears taste guuuud
are you talking about The Irishman?
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What was the first to feature Gladstone
The Kelly Reichardt anthology movie Certain Women. Which she is incredible in & as I have heard it, was what caught Scorsese’s attention eventually leading to her being cast in KotFM.
In a movie with Laura Dern, Michelle Williams, and Kristen Stewart, she unquestionably steals the show
I'll put it on the infinite queue
Really??? That's crazy I thought "The Beach" or "Blood Diamond" had a Criterion version....
APPLE SURRENDERED, WE WON!!!
I'm glad this masterpiece is getting a new life.
By the way, Gladstone, DiCaprio and DeNiro should have all won Oscars, phenomenal, best-career work from all of them.
Especially Gladstone
I was so disappointed that she didn’t win.
even Emma Stone was visibly shocked lol
Same!
Emma Stone gave a great performance but it was nowhere on Lily Gladstone’s level. She floored me with her emotional nuance
She was robbed!!
Nah. Robbed would be someone who didn't deserve it won instead. In this case it was a toss up. Both were equally deserving
Yeah that’s true I was just pissed
I couldn’t decide which one was my favorite performance that year. Maybe she lost by a vote. We will never know
Not DiCaprip imo, I dont feel his role brought as much to the table as either of the other two actors you mentioned. DeNiro in particular, should have absolutely taken an award home.
Huge Leo fan here, I agree - pretty usual Leo stuff in this one. I found his performances in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood and One Battle After Another to be much stronger and obvious Oscar snubs
"Once Upon a Time in Hollywood" is one of his best as an adult. I felt like he was actually acting in that role, whereas I usually find him too self-consciously performative. He was the only weak link in "Django Unchained."
De Niro was up against Downey Jr in Oppenheimer and RDJ in Oppenheimer was amazing. Also, De Niro already has multiple Oscars.
It feels like he ignored Kirk Lazarus’s advice and went full retard in that role
Him and DeNiro were cartoon characters compared to everyone else in that film
Di Caprio just seemed to be acting like a citizen of Idiocracy. He came off so dumb that I couldn't reconcile him being clever enough to pull of the crimes that De Niro's character pushed him to do. However, I also couldn't reconcile him being dumb enough to believe that he wasn't poisoning his wife when De Niro's character was doing all these other crimes against the indigenous people, and at the end we're supposed to believe that he actually loved her? Nope. Not for a second.
Can't agree on De Niro's performance this time. I didn't find him threatening at all. Seemed to me like he phoned it in.
Gladstone was the clear standout, which is damned impressive given how little time her character had onscreen before she spent most of it in a poisoned stupor.
The book, while being more factual and less character driven to such information being lost to too much time passing, was much better.
The three main character arcs were not well written, and the story hinges on that necessity.
Scorsese coming out at the end and doing an old-timey radio announcement was a really bad call and a waste of time. He basically just told us what we just watched, and it felt preachy instead of necessary, especially if you already agreed with the point of the story.
I think you hit everything roght om, except for DeNiro. My impression of his role was that was a smarmy, slimy, greedy dirtbag. Nothing in his character gave me "terrifying" vibes, and I don't feel like it was ever meant to feel that way in the film, with the exception that from the perspective of a Native American that has everything to lose, this type of person is absolutely the biggest threat.
I'm glad you enjoyed him. I didn't find anything interesting or compelling about him. I feel like there should have a suggestion of deeply calculated menace emanating off him like heat from stove, but he mostly seemed to just be mildly irritated. It just didn't work for me.
Uh no. Gladstone sure, but not the others. Leo has many fantastic films and could certainly have a couple more Oscars, but not for this one
What the hell, I was literally just thinking about how this doesn't have a physical release like half an hour ago. I guess that's a sign that I have to buy this.
It does, just not in the US until this. Could get it imported from Italy for the last year or so.
Killers was so good. Not the biggest fan of The Irishman but Killers was so engrossing and well-paced
I am the biggest fan of The Irishman, and I also agree that Killers was so good.
The Irishman to me has way too many flaws for it to be seen as Scorsese's best. KOTFM though is nearly perfect (personally, it is perfect to me)
The de-aging on Irishman is a real millstone around the movie. If it just had different actors playing the roles. It would have a lot more esteem.
I firmly believe had Ray Liotta been cast, the film would've been better. (1) Liotta is actually non-Italian which is a massively important to the story and (2) is slightly younger than De Niro which means the de-aging would've worked better and also is a tad bit more physically fit for the role. Not to mention, it would've been a great reunion amongst the Goodfellas cast to have all three return (just cast De Niro elsewhere).
On paper, it’s a great concept. The depiction of a mob guy who truly treats it like a job and doesn’t mess around, plays by “The rules”, doesn’t act flashy. What does that look like?
Tbf De Niro isn't really "Italian" either, even by weird American standards. He literally had one Italian grandparent and that's it, he's just always played into it more with his film roles
Wow. That is wild, I felt the complete opposite. Wanted to leave the theater, it was so uninteresting and slow.
about fucking time!
Testament
A movie as bleak as Threads but not visually disturbing.
Holy shit, Testament wrecked me. I watched it with my dad when I was younger just expecting a regular 70s sci-fi kinda thing and just being crushed. That scene in the garage really stuck with me.
I've seen a ton of horror movies in my life, but THREADS is truly the most horrific movie I've ever seen. It's worth a watch, but you'll never want to watch it twice.
Testament
WOW!
Now there is some fun for the whole family. 😏
double feature with On the Beach
Threads, Testament, On The Beach, The Day After, and the oddball, The Quiet Earth.
Yes, yes, yes. Killers of the Flower Moon was such an excellent movie and deserves to be in the criterion collection.
I thought Killers of the Flower Moon was better than Oppenheimer
Killers is perhaps my favorite movie of the decade. I liked Oppenheimer, but I didn’t quite get all the fuss. It was probably my #9 choice of all the Best Picture nominees that year.
Yes. Captivating from the start to the end. Oppen was boring and anticlimactic. It's a case study for PR and marketing done perfect.
I think if you also compare both these movies in terms of their attempt to address historical tragedies and contemporary legacies, KOTFM does circles around Oppenheimer.
KoFM had a simpler and better executed characterization/story
Aw shit! Time to unload my crate of the Italian 4K that I bought as an investment for my grandkids.
I'm glad non-Italians can now partake in a physical edition of KOTFM. And what seems like a fantastic one.
Still no official release of Goncharov...
I couldn’t finish this one. Bored the ever loving shit out of me. Just bonkers to me it’s so highly acclaimed.
Yeah, I feel like i watched a completely different movie from these people.
I know I’m in the minority but to me this movie was excruciatingly dull. It could have lost 60 minutes and been much, much better.
I agree. I wanted to like it, but the character writing was poor and the direction didn't help. I would recommend the book. It sticks to the facts and is a very enjoyable read with enough detail to make it compelling despite the lack of distinct characters.
Oof, it was a tough read. Mainly because the whole portion of history is FUBAR.
Agreed, and that should be the point. What bothers me about the film is that the story mainly revolves around the white characters. The indigenous people only get cursory screen time.
Lily Gladstone did what she could, but she spent so much of her time in a poisoned stupor that it really limited her ability to present a strong indigenous perspective. I also did not understand how a seemingly intelligent and perceptive woman could fall for an obvious fumblefuck like Ernest.
Totally agree. I think it was way too long for the story. Leo over-acted another slow adult. The real story was how the FBI worked to create itself and new technologies just for these cases. Jesse Plimmons character was the main guy.
My friend made an edit where he took out over 30 minutes and rearranged things so it was more of a mystery who was behind things. https://youtu.be/EO1xPuZDACc?si=nZa-K1rWCDRfNHZG
If you take out 60 mins, you just toss out a whole chunk of plot. Not a single minute is wasted. Every part is consequential.
I don’t agree, I’m sorry. This film was an absolute slog, and this is coming from someone who loves slow-paced films.
Hell yeah
About time.
I hope i can get it in germany
Let’s fucking go
Would prefer The Irishman tbh
That's already in the collection
Not 4k
That fire scene in native 4K is going to look incredible. The compression on the stream really struggled with the dark scenes so this is a day one buy.
At this rate we’ll never get a Lost in Translation release
FINALLY
Flowers was a bad adaptation of the book. It was another vehicle for Leo to act slightly retarted. The main story should have been the FBI search and the new technologies created just for these crimes. Leo's character was a bad guy but its more interesting from the other angle like the book.
I write this even though I am a fan if everyone involved in this film.