Green Bay had the right idea and the NFL freaked the fuck out. I will watch the Saints when they make the playoffs, but I basically stopped caring about the NFL when I cut the cord 20+ years ago.
Wow so you got hit twice. There’s just not another team that could pull me back in. I used to watch every single game I could every night it was on. Never again.
Yep, I make sure I make this whole situation known when I go over to my parents house. Watching the Fing Chiefs while bitching about a mom who is dressed nice at the grocery store using food stamps. Okay, sure.
Be mad at the politicians for letting it happen. They own the land and the stadium. They made their bed and now have to sleep in it. If Missourians don’t like it, head to the polls and let your politicians hear your voice.
ya know, for an extended period of time when the Colosseum in Rome stopped being used it was inhabited by squatters, both homes and businesses. so you might be on to something!
Because an abandoned stadium would cost $5-10 million per year in maintenance alone. Significantly more if it were maintained well enough to host a few events per year. It would be way cheaper long term to demolish it and sell the land.
Because the dome in St. Louis struggles to be solvent when you remove the settlement from the Rams. And that venue is enclosed and can accommodate more events. Arrowhead will never bring in the funds to justify keeping it maintained.
So the options are to leave it up and end maintenance or demolish and try to redevelop the property into something that generates tax revenue.
The USFL Battlehawks play there, and sell very well. Also they still have concerts with pretty decent acts. AC\DC is coming in September and some country star. This idea that the Rams left and it sits unused is not true. If anything, it's used slightly more because they don't have to block off 18-20 weeks for the NFL schedule.
That’s not at all what’s happened with our dome and convention center in STL. We actually make more money hosting conventions, it’s just we had a very expensive upgrade planned and St. Louis County fucked up their approvals and financing and the convention board didn’t pivot fast enough. We keep downtown way busier with the convention only use than we ever did with the Rams. Stadiums are a bad investment but other purposes are not.
It's not the state. Jackson county owns the stadium. The headline on the article is inaccurate and trying to simply get clicks. At the end of the day yes Jackson county is on the hook for whatever happens to the stadium after the Chiefs leave because they own it. They can choose to tear it down or perhaps sell it all off to some other developer that wants to do something with the property. Could be something similar to Kemper Arena that was sold for $1 to a developer that wanted to reuse it for a different purpose.
Makes 0 sense for a team that takes in MILLIONS for them to not pay for their own building. That’s like saying i should make the city pay to build my restaurant because im feeding the community food (ignore the fact that the food isn’t free and im making profit)
Cities Counties States match funds all the time for certain types of projects. they build out storm, sanitary sewer, roads etc to try and drive business.
It happens for commercial and residential and all kinds of development.
If you don’t want the state to pay for that sort of thing then so be it. I don’t really disagree. But you can’t get mad when they leave. Because that’s not how business in the United States works.
Missouri should rescind all benefits and support provided to the Chiefs for the remainder of their time there. Let THEM foot the ENTIRE cost to operate. The savings can go towards the eventual destruction of their stadium.
They and some other investors recently purchased the Country Club Plaza in KC and are in the process of a major renovation.. they’re not so easy to shake
The NFL & Rams paid that settlement to avoid having to go into "discovery" because they knew Kroenke was moving before he was legally allowed to look AND more importantly because the 30+ old white owners emails would be brutal
And got rewarded with their franchise value doubling overnight ($1.45B to $2.9B in year 1) now all the way up to $10B, making the cowboys the only NFL franchise worth more. They went from 28th to 2nd in only 10 years.
Obligatory FUCK BILLIONAIRES. I am so sick of rules meaning nothing to these affluent fuckwads because they can just pay whatever amount of money is necessary to not follow the rules.
Wouldn’t have been quite as bad to start with if they actually invested in their team while they were here instead of letting it rot and blaming the fans.
Those dumb "Hunts" helped WRITE the contracts. And yet, somehow, the results weren't to their liking. Why should WE pay in order to enable their GREED!?!
Considering how "fast and loose" the Missouri and Federal legislature have been with "Laws" and "Contracts" recently, I see NO REASON they couldn't renegotiate...
How can they negotiate anything when our dipshit governor is trying to eliminate income tax, thereby eliminating any value the tax incentives they’d be able to offer have, anyway!!
You are confusing the current contract from the previous sales tax vote (yes) with the more recent vote to extend it (no) and the subsequent efforts after that no vote to keep the teams.
Also, why do you randomly capitalize words in every post?
Yup, because my interest is in social media doesn't extend far enough for me to learn how to properly use it. That response may SEEM sarcastic, but it is genuine.
The chiefs came out on top by receiving 58m while only contributing 55m back into the local economy. Yes, but none of it was from the state. Jackson county pays for ALL of it. That’s why Jackson county gets early access to single game tickets. Because we foot the bill. Not Missouri as a state.
Lmao why would the federal govt contribute to the chiefs? I swear god wtf is happening to critical thinking?????
They should fire up the bulldozers tomorrow. Let the Hunts figure out what they’re going to do for the next 6 years until their welfare castle is built.
yeah. they cover that in business law. what's your point? I'm not allowed to complain on Reddit unless I have a constructive solution? I'll keep that in mind next time. God you're fun.
Ok, you can give stupid ideas and then when people call out a crucial gap in facts you can just go "it was a joke, you're no fun". Great stuff. So funny and witty.
Why do you think he never reinvested into Arrowhead? They’ve been getting that “F” rating by the players for years now. The plan was to always to leave. There have been subtle hints for years. People should not be surprised.
Unfortunately it’s how it works and will continue to work. If you are a major metro and want to pro team this is now expected. People keep bringing up the broncos and the Walmart heirs paying for “all” the stadium. Well Walmart doesn’t own the Chiefs and there are different levels of extreme wealth. It’s not all the same. I also think the Broncos isn’t fully privately funded. There is always more than meets the eye.
It certainly hasn’t been a victory for St Louis and the area. I expect it has little impact on most people or the economy as a whole. The loss is more about the prestige, culture and identity of the region and having a common ground that brings the people together.
Plus - it’s fun to have cool things in your city they bring joy to people.
So I don’t disagree with any of those points but they are only moving 20 min west and will still be in the Metro and still be the KC Chiefs but do understand it is different. But like I said I don’t agree with the move at all as Arrowhead is iconic but I also don’t mind the new tax burden not being put on Missourians. Clark Hunt made it abundantly clear what his view is if the fan base.
That is a good point. This is an entirely different thing than losing a team to LA. It won’t hurt the metro culturally overall. The real impacts would be a hit to KC itself plus the economic shifts.
I will just add - Arrowhead is beloved by fans, but it is an outdated dump. A major investment was required regardless - and a new stadium brings many more opportunities to use it for more than just a football venue. Building a new stadium instead of renovating makes sense all around.
Wait what? Why would we just demolish it? It’s a historic, record-setting stadium.
There are many historic unused bowls still around and nobody is automatically talking about tearing them down. Take the cotton bowl for example, it’s empty and useless for like 340 days a year it’s still standing and useful.
Sounds like it’s definitely time to get a ballot initiative together to end the MO subsidy early though since they’ve already announced they’re leaving for such a massive deal.
They just spent $140m in taxpayer money on the empty cotton bowl. Paying billionaires to move their teams here is insanity. Paying to NOT have a team? That’s not better.
I don't remember much around that area, besides subdivisions. No hotels, or any other amenities that you find around other stadiums, and that's with a current NFL team there.
Sounds like maybe your homework assignment should be to go check the area out then. You’re mostly right, but if you don’t remember, that means you must not have been there enough. I encourage you to drive over there and just see how far it is from the rest of the city’s amenities.
People will pay to live at Arrowhead if you develop the stadium into a mixed use location with amenities. Develop the land, especially if the Royals move that's a huge area. It might convince the Royals to not move if there were shit around their stadium.
"Back in 2006, Jackson County voters approved a 3/8-cent sales tax to finance a major share of renovations at Arrowhead Stadium and Kauffman Stadium. That vote helped fund roughly $425 million in improvements. And in return, it tied the Chiefs and Kansas City Royals to the Truman Sports Complex through the 2031 season.
Fast forward to 2024, and that long-standing arrangement began to unravel. With the existing tax nearing its end, Jackson County voters were asked to extend the 3/8-cent sales tax. The extension would have funded further renovations at Arrowhead. And it’d have helped finance a new downtown stadium for the Royals.
Voters rejected it.
Question 1, which would have replaced the existing tax with one lasting through 2064, failed by a decisive margin. We’re talking about 58% voting “no,” compared to 42% “yes.” The result means the stadium tax will expire in 2031, when both teams’ leases run out. And the funds can only be used for the existing Truman Sports Complex. The argument, though, was simple.
Organizations like KC Tenants, Stand Up KC, and small business groups contended that public money should not be used to subsidize privately owned franchises. “We feel so encouraged that more and more people are realizing poor and working class folks don’t have to subsidize a billionaire’s private profits,” said KC Tenants organizer Magda Werkmeister."
My guess is JaxCo will request proposals and those wonderful, civic-minded folks at Hunt Midwest will submit a plan for warehouse development including a plethora of tax incentives to take care of the problem they helped create.
We should turn Arrowhead into a museum of sorts that becomes a destination for people that visit and use the revenue to enrich our community more than we’d ever have done with having the chiefs there.
Because the legislative body in Missouri has spent more time trying to gerrymander the state, and reverse the abortion rights being on the ballot. This time could have been spent working on a plan to keep the chiefs in KC.
Isn't corporate welfare great? We should be thanking the Hunts for the privilege to shovel their shit after they are done dumping on this state.
A core pillar of the nfl business model is largely based on corporate welfare. I wouldn’t watch this trash league or trash team if they paid me.
Green Bay had the right idea and the NFL freaked the fuck out. I will watch the Saints when they make the playoffs, but I basically stopped caring about the NFL when I cut the cord 20+ years ago.
I quit when the rams left. The nfl let everyone know nothing but cash matters. I hope I never have to suffer through another nfl game again.
I get it and would have done the same if I were from St. Louis.
I had quit when the Browns left Cleveland, but the Rams sucked me back in for a few years. Mid-2000's was it for me.
Wow so you got hit twice. There’s just not another team that could pull me back in. I used to watch every single game I could every night it was on. Never again.
Fantasy Football killed it for me finally in like 2013.
Yep, I make sure I make this whole situation known when I go over to my parents house. Watching the Fing Chiefs while bitching about a mom who is dressed nice at the grocery store using food stamps. Okay, sure.
The billionaires have earned our tax dollars and it will trickle down any decade now 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Poor people trying to buy food is the real devil in this county.
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Be mad at the politicians for letting it happen. They own the land and the stadium. They made their bed and now have to sleep in it. If Missourians don’t like it, head to the polls and let your politicians hear your voice.
Maybe a dumb question but why does it need to be demolished?
It could be like the Roman Colosseum
They could hold trumps patriot hunger demolition derby rodeo games there until the ballroom and ufc pit are finished at the White House.
Haha yeah the hunger games were a few years ahead of schedule but this admin really moves
Well when you describe it like that, it sounds kinda awesome
I volunteer you as tribute.
ya know, for an extended period of time when the Colosseum in Rome stopped being used it was inhabited by squatters, both homes and businesses. so you might be on to something!
Or the Astrodome.
Exactly! Coming soon!…
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This made me spit my beer and I am stealing it
Because an abandoned stadium would cost $5-10 million per year in maintenance alone. Significantly more if it were maintained well enough to host a few events per year. It would be way cheaper long term to demolish it and sell the land.
Because the dome in St. Louis struggles to be solvent when you remove the settlement from the Rams. And that venue is enclosed and can accommodate more events. Arrowhead will never bring in the funds to justify keeping it maintained.
So the options are to leave it up and end maintenance or demolish and try to redevelop the property into something that generates tax revenue.
I know why they didn’t but I always thought you could throw another sport in there tbh
The USFL Battlehawks play there, and sell very well. Also they still have concerts with pretty decent acts. AC\DC is coming in September and some country star. This idea that the Rams left and it sits unused is not true. If anything, it's used slightly more because they don't have to block off 18-20 weeks for the NFL schedule.
It’s definitely not unused, but it’s definitely underused for the investment that was made.
Now there’s a venue no one will cry about when it’s torn down.
Why would they tear it down? We use our convention center regularly. The Rams were holding us back from landing long-term events.
Because it’s a venue with bad sight-lines, a terrible sound system, and no parking. And it’s ugly as homemade soap.
Who owns the land?
That’s not at all what’s happened with our dome and convention center in STL. We actually make more money hosting conventions, it’s just we had a very expensive upgrade planned and St. Louis County fucked up their approvals and financing and the convention board didn’t pivot fast enough. We keep downtown way busier with the convention only use than we ever did with the Rams. Stadiums are a bad investment but other purposes are not.
Can’t just let it fall apart and become a hazard
Then let the billionaire pay for it. Why is it a state problem?
Should never be in the deal to make tax payer remove these.
Edit: people need to read entire comment before posting.
Because the state owns it and didnt have language in the contract to cause the Chiefs to demolish it.
It's not the state. Jackson county owns the stadium. The headline on the article is inaccurate and trying to simply get clicks. At the end of the day yes Jackson county is on the hook for whatever happens to the stadium after the Chiefs leave because they own it. They can choose to tear it down or perhaps sell it all off to some other developer that wants to do something with the property. Could be something similar to Kemper Arena that was sold for $1 to a developer that wanted to reuse it for a different purpose.
The billionaire doesn’t own it, so unless it’s in the lease that the have to demolish it, then They won’t.
Because they won’t pay for it, so if it’s left to dilapidate and someone is harmed because of it, who do you think pays the lawsuit?
Yeah but it could be maintained and used for something else. Maybe a soccer field or something.
Maintenance costs several million annually.
For who?
Anyone one who wants it? What do you want from me?
Fantastic analysis. Thank you for your contribution
Yeah upgrade the Current
Not sure they have the budget, but I sure wouldn't mind that.
So musical chairs with THAT brand new facility?
You’re not wrong. Shit like this is why I never became a city planner.
Plus, I'm willing to bet a full demo and haul away, and razing will cost more than 150 million
Charge admission for people to come take it apart. Thousands of seats, chunks of concrete. (I have some pieces of the old Checkerdome.)
What are you gonna use it for?
WTF else is it useful for? It doesn’t have a dome. The new stadium in KS will, making it useful during the off season
Stop subsidizing team sports already its a business let them pay the 💰
They did stop and that’s why it will be abandoned. But since ‘we’ own it, we have to get rid of it.
Why would anyone ever subsidize anything?
Because the people that vote of the subsidies get subsidies from the people getting the subsidies.
Are you suggesting a conspiracy?
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“We don’t want to pay for it” and “it’s ridiculous they are leaving” has a strong overlap on Social media in the venn Diagram of stupid.
How's that billionaire boot taste?
Oh I think billionaires should be taxed at 1950s tax rates.
It’s just really interesting seeing people in red states cry over it. Y’all voted for this.
Venn
Diesel.
As you can see above me here, we have an example of a “Venn diagram of stupid”.
Love you
Makes 0 sense for a team that takes in MILLIONS for them to not pay for their own building. That’s like saying i should make the city pay to build my restaurant because im feeding the community food (ignore the fact that the food isn’t free and im making profit)
Cities Counties States match funds all the time for certain types of projects. they build out storm, sanitary sewer, roads etc to try and drive business.
It happens for commercial and residential and all kinds of development.
If you don’t want the state to pay for that sort of thing then so be it. I don’t really disagree. But you can’t get mad when they leave. Because that’s not how business in the United States works.
They’re moving across the state line lol why is everyone acting like they’re gone to LA
Yeah, I think it’s hilarious. Like people aren’t gonna drive 20 more minutes to a much nicer stadium.
Missouri should rescind all benefits and support provided to the Chiefs for the remainder of their time there. Let THEM foot the ENTIRE cost to operate. The savings can go towards the eventual destruction of their stadium.
That is the best idea I've heard. Great idea!
And rescind all benefits to Hunt Midwest, the development company owned by the Hunt family.
The Hunts voted to allow the Rams to leave StL and now they are taking the Chiefs to KS. They should not be welcome to do business here. Fuck them.
They and some other investors recently purchased the Country Club Plaza in KC and are in the process of a major renovation.. they’re not so easy to shake
There's a contract
Like the Rams had a contract?
Yes, and the Rams/NFL paid huge penalties ($790M) for breaching that contract… not sure that is what Missouri wants to do here lol
The NFL & Rams paid that settlement to avoid having to go into "discovery" because they knew Kroenke was moving before he was legally allowed to look AND more importantly because the 30+ old white owners emails would be brutal
- SEE John Gruden as an example
Rams paid 790 million dollars to settle the lawsuit for breaking the contract
And got rewarded with their franchise value doubling overnight ($1.45B to $2.9B in year 1) now all the way up to $10B, making the cowboys the only NFL franchise worth more. They went from 28th to 2nd in only 10 years.
Holy shit that is CRAZY.
Obligatory FUCK BILLIONAIRES. I am so sick of rules meaning nothing to these affluent fuckwads because they can just pay whatever amount of money is necessary to not follow the rules.
Guillotines when???
Wouldn’t have been quite as bad to start with if they actually invested in their team while they were here instead of letting it rot and blaming the fans.
That's a lawsuit that Missouri will lose.
I'm sure you've read the contracts and this totally would work.
Those dumb "Hunts" helped WRITE the contracts. And yet, somehow, the results weren't to their liking. Why should WE pay in order to enable their GREED!?!
Huh? Clearly the results for them are just fine and they were hardly dumb.
Maybe KCMO avoided another bad deal. Maybe KS will get the benefits to justify the cost. We'll see, not worth being totally unhinged about.
This is a great idea which means there’s no way in hell it’ll happen.
Missouri isn’t giving the chiefs anything right now anyway, it’s Jackson county paying for the 3/8 cent tax.
Isn't Jackson county a part of Missouri? Whatever support being provided is CLEARLY not needed, or appreciated. So, why waste OUR MONEY?
Because in the real world there are contracts and rules that control these things.
Considering how "fast and loose" the Missouri and Federal legislature have been with "Laws" and "Contracts" recently, I see NO REASON they couldn't renegotiate...
How can they negotiate anything when our dipshit governor is trying to eliminate income tax, thereby eliminating any value the tax incentives they’d be able to offer have, anyway!!
Well, you could start with the fact that this has nothing to do with the state of MO or federal government. It’s a contract with Jackson County.
Missourians voted AGAINST giving additional money to the Chiefs, it was the LEGISLATURE that overrode the voters to offer incentives.
You are confusing the current contract from the previous sales tax vote (yes) with the more recent vote to extend it (no) and the subsequent efforts after that no vote to keep the teams.
Also, why do you randomly capitalize words in every post?
Emphasis.
It would have been better bolded, but Internet traditions die hard.
Yup, because my interest is in social media doesn't extend far enough for me to learn how to properly use it. That response may SEEM sarcastic, but it is genuine.
Jackson county voted against it, Missouri as a whole don’t get a say
So, why did the MISSOURI legislature interfere in a LOCAL ISSUE? I thought these guys were all about SMALL GOVERNMENT
Because Jackson county voted no so they tried to get something done at the state level?
Swear I read a study from 2023 that found that the Chiefs benefited from $58 million that year in federal, STATE, and county tax revenue.
I don’t think Jackson County was the only government subsidizing the Hunts.
The chiefs came out on top by receiving 58m while only contributing 55m back into the local economy. Yes, but none of it was from the state. Jackson county pays for ALL of it. That’s why Jackson county gets early access to single game tickets. Because we foot the bill. Not Missouri as a state.
Lmao why would the federal govt contribute to the chiefs? I swear god wtf is happening to critical thinking?????
Fuck the hunts. Enjoy never paying back that debt Kansas.
They should fire up the bulldozers tomorrow. Let the Hunts figure out what they’re going to do for the next 6 years until their welfare castle is built.
They’re under contract until 2031
Same kind of contract the Rams had when they left? Funny how those are optional when it’s convenient.
This is the MFer who backed the Rams outta town with his vote. Fuck all of them.
But Hey, I’m just a Missouri voter, the legislature doesn’t give a fuck what my vote means anyway….
Exactly the same. And the Rams had to pay nearly a billion dollars for breaking the contract. Should taxpayers have to do the same just to be petty?
It’s a joke. We’re allowed to be bitter. It’s only been a few hours since this shit came down. We can make rational decisions next week.
They paid an $800mm penalty after lawsuits. How are you missing that?
I already responded to this exact comment. How are you missing that?
I guess i didn't search the entire thread... meanwhile I assume you still don't get what contracts mean.
yeah. they cover that in business law. what's your point? I'm not allowed to complain on Reddit unless I have a constructive solution? I'll keep that in mind next time. God you're fun.
Ok, you can give stupid ideas and then when people call out a crucial gap in facts you can just go "it was a joke, you're no fun". Great stuff. So funny and witty.
Came here to say this Also, slightly off topic, but FSK.
Kansas is giving them a free stadium, the least they could do is pay for the demolition
Clark Hunt being an F-rated owner continues to be true
Why do you think he never reinvested into Arrowhead? They’ve been getting that “F” rating by the players for years now. The plan was to always to leave. There have been subtle hints for years. People should not be surprised.
At least they aren't leaving for San Jose or some other metro area.
But still, people have to vote out these politicians to keep on handing money to sports teams.
Unfortunately it’s how it works and will continue to work. If you are a major metro and want to pro team this is now expected. People keep bringing up the broncos and the Walmart heirs paying for “all” the stadium. Well Walmart doesn’t own the Chiefs and there are different levels of extreme wealth. It’s not all the same. I also think the Broncos isn’t fully privately funded. There is always more than meets the eye.
It sucks but better then the billions KS residents are on the hook for.
Yes, no doubt. The Chiefs leaving the state is a huge victory for KCMO! Woo hoo!
I mean I’m not happy they are leaving at all but also don’t think people should be held hostage by billionaires.
This whole thing is a study on whether people care more about idealogy or the real world impacts on the area they live.
I would be interested to see the effects of the Rams leaving St Louis economically.
It certainly hasn’t been a victory for St Louis and the area. I expect it has little impact on most people or the economy as a whole. The loss is more about the prestige, culture and identity of the region and having a common ground that brings the people together.
Plus - it’s fun to have cool things in your city they bring joy to people.
So I don’t disagree with any of those points but they are only moving 20 min west and will still be in the Metro and still be the KC Chiefs but do understand it is different. But like I said I don’t agree with the move at all as Arrowhead is iconic but I also don’t mind the new tax burden not being put on Missourians. Clark Hunt made it abundantly clear what his view is if the fan base.
That is a good point. This is an entirely different thing than losing a team to LA. It won’t hurt the metro culturally overall. The real impacts would be a hit to KC itself plus the economic shifts.
I will just add - Arrowhead is beloved by fans, but it is an outdated dump. A major investment was required regardless - and a new stadium brings many more opportunities to use it for more than just a football venue. Building a new stadium instead of renovating makes sense all around.
Sue the Hunts.
For what?
For money
That’s not how lawsuits work.
Just because someone is shitty doesn’t mean they legally did anything of damage.
Don't ask logical questions here. They'll downvote you because vibes.
Well it was a smart ass joke in the first place /s my bad
Wait what? Why would we just demolish it? It’s a historic, record-setting stadium.
There are many historic unused bowls still around and nobody is automatically talking about tearing them down. Take the cotton bowl for example, it’s empty and useless for like 340 days a year it’s still standing and useful.
Sounds like it’s definitely time to get a ballot initiative together to end the MO subsidy early though since they’ve already announced they’re leaving for such a massive deal.
They just spent $140m in taxpayer money on the empty cotton bowl. Paying billionaires to move their teams here is insanity. Paying to NOT have a team? That’s not better.
How much will maintenance cost to keep a useless stadium around?
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What revenue?
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What events would they hold there lmao you don’t think those same events will be held at the new stadium instead?
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This is the first question I’ve asked you and maybe if you can’t find the answer to it, you’re an idiot for suggesting it to begin with
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Lmao don’t put it on me! You’re the one who can’t read usernames or answer a question without sass
I don't remember much around that area, besides subdivisions. No hotels, or any other amenities that you find around other stadiums, and that's with a current NFL team there.
Sounds like maybe your homework assignment should be to go check the area out then. You’re mostly right, but if you don’t remember, that means you must not have been there enough. I encourage you to drive over there and just see how far it is from the rest of the city’s amenities.
Why would I waste my time driving 4 hours to a stadium that I don't care about in the middle of nowhere?
Sorry, thought I was commenting on the KC sub with that one. You can still see what I’m talking about on maps though.
The area around that stadium is really sad considering how much business these stadiums are supposed to bring to the area.
why can't the billionaires ever clean up after themselves when they move to steal from another city? they're literal parasites..........
STOP SUBSIDIZING TEAM SPORTS!!
Don't demolish it. Turn it into something useful!
Great example
People will pay to live at Arrowhead if you develop the stadium into a mixed use location with amenities. Develop the land, especially if the Royals move that's a huge area. It might convince the Royals to not move if there were shit around their stadium.
Let's just make a new football team
Missouri Moccasins
I was thinking the arrowheads but sure.
We need more Alliteration
Make the Hunts pay for it!
I'm glad to see them leave. They provided no benefits to the community.
Ka Kaw it is.
Not that anyone will recognize the team after the idiotic and complete upheaval of rosters and coaching staff.
Demolish it and leave rhe remains on I70 at the border
I think they should turn it into apartments
The Hunts will get another tax cut, a free stadium, and whatever republicans they want to purchase.
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You own your house, the chiefs do not own the stadium.
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Bingo
Why demolish it? William Jewell University and defending state champion Lees Summit could move their games there!
The good news from the article
"Back in 2006, Jackson County voters approved a 3/8-cent sales tax to finance a major share of renovations at Arrowhead Stadium and Kauffman Stadium. That vote helped fund roughly $425 million in improvements. And in return, it tied the Chiefs and Kansas City Royals to the Truman Sports Complex through the 2031 season.
Fast forward to 2024, and that long-standing arrangement began to unravel. With the existing tax nearing its end, Jackson County voters were asked to extend the 3/8-cent sales tax. The extension would have funded further renovations at Arrowhead. And it’d have helped finance a new downtown stadium for the Royals.
Voters rejected it.
Question 1, which would have replaced the existing tax with one lasting through 2064, failed by a decisive margin. We’re talking about 58% voting “no,” compared to 42% “yes.” The result means the stadium tax will expire in 2031, when both teams’ leases run out. And the funds can only be used for the existing Truman Sports Complex. The argument, though, was simple.
Organizations like KC Tenants, Stand Up KC, and small business groups contended that public money should not be used to subsidize privately owned franchises. “We feel so encouraged that more and more people are realizing poor and working class folks don’t have to subsidize a billionaire’s private profits,” said KC Tenants organizer Magda Werkmeister."
When are we going to learn that the NFL is poisonous
Why demolish it? Let it rot until some developer wants to do something with the land and then they can pay for it.
I’ll do it for 2/3 of the price.
$150 million? We’ve seen people taking down other things for way less than that
Charge it to the billionaire who’s getting a free ride from the idiot politicians in Kansas.
We should of finished off the Kansas assholes in civil war or as I see itNorther Aggression! Piss on Cunt Hunt!
Only reasonable tradeoff is if they want us to pay for their stadium, then tickets should be free for Jackson county residents…
Demolish it a year or two before they are scheduled to leave. We have to get going on redevelopment. No time to waste!
Why wouldn’t it be used for other events? makes no sense…
My guess is JaxCo will request proposals and those wonderful, civic-minded folks at Hunt Midwest will submit a plan for warehouse development including a plethora of tax incentives to take care of the problem they helped create.
Kansas is on the hook for about 6 billion, so...that's nice.
Billionaire's needing the public's money....they should pay it back with interest.................................
Love this for Mizzou
For Mizzou vs Kansas each year?
We should turn Arrowhead into a museum of sorts that becomes a destination for people that visit and use the revenue to enrich our community more than we’d ever have done with having the chiefs there.
Can we just make our own football team? The arrowheads? 🤔
I don’t live in metro KC and I don’t want my tax dollars paying for demolishing Camarohead Stadium. Let Jackson County residents pay for it.
Bring the Chargers in to play there. They need a home of their own.
If it wasn’t Missouri I’d care but that backwards ass state deserves whatever bad shit happens to it.
allow other teams fans to come and fuck it up for free, that should get you down to the point of just hauling the shit away when they are all done.
Put a liner in it and fill it with garbage
How in the world does it cost $150 million to demolish a alstadium?
Even if so, it’s cheaper than what we would spent on a stadium.
The flyover states are filled with rubes.
Why am I not surprised. Missouri more worried about pleasing trump.
What does this have to do with Trump?
Because the legislative body in Missouri has spent more time trying to gerrymander the state, and reverse the abortion rights being on the ballot. This time could have been spent working on a plan to keep the chiefs in KC.
Oh so you wanted the state to pay for a billionaires stadium? Is that a progressive thing?
why is it not repurposed???? taxpayers built that stadium….and now we have to pay to demolish it???? this sounds like money laundering at this point
Repurpose it into a giant skating rink. 🤷🏾♂️