10,000 less seats and season ticket costs are likely to triple or quadruple with PSLs added, like happened with the new Buffalo stadium that taxpayers funded. Glad it's not MO funding it atleast.
Look on the bright side - 10k fewer seats means a significantly higher cost per ticket just to generate the same amount of revenue, so a bunch of rich assholes that don't live in the area have a lot more room to party without any of these nasty poor Kansans getting too close to them.
Just another case of tax payers funding a palace for multi billionaires and millionaire players to play a game. These deals are never good for the. City or state
100%, sadly, Kansas is just pulling companies and business from across the state line. No one wants to go there, so only locals will. Kansas doesn't have a "power house" city and sucks the teet of KCMO.
Personal Seat License. It's something YOU get to buy to get the PRIVILEGE to buy season tickets. We had them in St. Louis for the Rams before they went bye bye.
Yep. For the Bills, the PSL for a decent seat is $8k. Have friends who have had season tickets for 40 years and the Bills said “great, you can keep your seats in the new stadium BUT you owe us $32k + $9k for those 4 seats next year.” He said “no thanks” and he is done with attending games. Season ticket holder will be lose their asses if/when Josh Allen slows down. I’m predicting a half empty stadium in their years ahead. 1982-1991 and 1995-2019 were difficult.
I remember those. I had an aunt who was well off who bought one for a few years in the 90’s. If she wasn’t attending a game, someone else in the family would get them. I was lucky enough to snag tickets for the playoff game that sent them to the Superbowl.
As far as the Chiefs go, screw ‘em. I’ll watch if they make it to the Superbowl, but they’re Kansas’s problem now, and good riddance to the greedy bastards that own them.
The core precept of the American economy is to separate the payor from the benefittor, so that the payor carries the burden without benefit, and the benefittor obtains the benefit without the burden.
Separating the cost from the benefit is how the American economic model works!
That’s how our Congress wants ALL business. Oil and Gas? ✔️ Health insurance ✔️ construction infrastructure ✔️ new roads✔️ Big corps paying peanuts so their employees qualify for federal programs ✔️. Unless you are a small ma and paw shop. Then you can kick rocks. I can’t say it’s R or D. It lobbyist and PACs that buy their way.
You should put away your fake sports rivalry and realize that when billionaires get their way like this, every working class American loses. The Kansans who are on the ground actually fighting against the wealthy’s hold on their state’s politics are unsurprisingly among the ones getting fucked by the bad things you’re celebrating.
The Kansans on the ground have been voting for their corporate overlords for so many decades it defines their very existence. This is the most Kansas move.
My cousin works for a millionaire farmer who routinely has dinners with the Kansas Governor and the chief of police in Topeka. I assure you, what you just said is extremely accurate. The average Kansan is a backwoods fucking idiot and i have a front row seat unfortunately.
Moved here for college. There’s zero sense of civic engagement or responsibility. Zero community cohesion beyond “muh farm.” Rampant corruption. It’s fucking embarrassing, no wonder they’re in a recession.
The overall sentiment from the locals is actually as you’ve said. I talk to people from Kansas everyday and it’s like I’m struggling to understand how they people are not able to see it
Why is it called “economic improvement “ when you,give over a billion dollars to millionaires but is called welfare when you give the same amount to people with nothing?
This is one protest I'd be at. $1k per or $6k per. Should be nothing. Then the owner hikes up ticket prices and tv packages sky high? For what? What are the residents actually paying for?
Debatable. Our government is doing what Kansas did not too long ago that completely tanked their economy, so we're in no position to gloat just yet. But yeah, this instance is a win
Absolutely. I don’t live in MO anymore, but loosely follow the politics. How the state Congress just overturns the will of the people over and over is disgusting.
Hey, STL got a butt load of cash from Stan.. That 14 mil the city spent to try and keep the Rams here, major ROI on that! Hindsight 50/50, but the city came out with a big fat W on that one! The dome is aging but just fine. Hosting events year round instead of blocking off 18-20 weeks for the NFL. Get fucked Stan!
Americans love making billionaires richer!! The football team gets billions but people go bankrupt over silly things like healthcare cost. Or in this case the city won't have money to repair potholes or to build a transportation infrastructure...
Look at who owns the land around the new location for the venues. They are the ones who benefit from the deal. Think hotels, restaurants and other venues.
As with most things political, follow the money to find the truth.
Absolutely. Who drives to arrowhead Sunday morning, pays $60 to park, $200+ for tickets, tailgates 3 hours drinking, watches a 3 hour game drinking, waits in a line of cars leaving the parking lot for 1 hour, and thinks "I wish there were an overpriced sports bar across the street"? Even if they did, businesses can't survive on 10 days of customers a year.
NFL stadiums generally only host a few non-football events per year, even in bigger cities than KC. There are just not a lot of events big enough to warrant taking place in a football stadium.
Arrowhead definitely hosts 130+ private catered events a year. Now will that translate into business for the surrounding business. Probably not. But to say nfl stadiums host few non nfl events per year is shortsighted.
Yeah of course they use the facility for small catered events, but catered events by definition don't generate business for nearby restaurants. Also all 130 of those events combined amount to a tiny fraction of the attendance of a single large event.
It depends a lot on the stadium design. There is a big difference between petco park and arrowhead stadium. One of them has been a consistent driver of a growing neighborhood economy. One definitely has not.
For the individual businesses, this is true. But the developers who will already bought the land and have big plans to develop it will make lots and lots of money.
That's the thing, the owners don't give AF about the locals and the fans. They literally came out and said, this new stadium will open the door to host Super Bowls, Final Fours, etc.. So they will build hotels, casinos, shops, etc around the dome. They too will own these buildings, and even if they get one major event every other year, it will pay for itself hand over fist, because just like this thread has said, 100% profits go to the owners, and the sales taxes gets funneled right into their pockets. Schools\roads\police\fire all be damned.
Those police will work 75 hours the week of the super bowl and be thankful to their owner overlords for giving them jesus christ their lord and savor for allowing such amazing billionaires. /s
If the traditional tailgating continues, no one is going to be going to those businesses. Everyone will drink and eat in the lots and then wander back home.
These terms might be worse than Rams debacle here in St Louis back in the mid 90s. Although it appears the Chiefs may be putting some construction money up.
But, the City did collect amusement/sports sales taxes from ticket sales, and 1% earnings tax from the the Rams [and visiting clubs, IIRC]
The state will receive one complimentary suite within the stadium. If that suite becomes unavailable due to circumstances beyond the Chiefs' control (e.g., the World Cup or Super Bowl), the team must provide the state with a comparable suite. The state will cover all food and beverage expenses inside its suite.
When I saw this deal, I’m glad Missouri said bye bye. Funding a multi billionaire is nonsense. When are cities going to stop playing this game? They get 10-12 dates a year? I don’t see how that can offset 3 billion in tax payers money.
Probably for the best for Kansas to foot the bill. After all the team demonstrated this season they’re on a downward trajectory with Mahomes out and a pretty lackluster showing this season.
As a chiefs hater, see ya! So glad we aren’t paying for this horseshit. The NFL is becoming a league of welfare billionaires and I stopped watching the day the rams left. Such a scam league.
Before we dunk on Kansas too much, Field of Schemes is reporting that yesterday was merely the announcement of a non-binding term sheet between Kansas and the Hunts. With Gov. Moron Mike saying he wants to see how much more money we'd have to give the Hunts to stay in MO, I suspect this was simply a leverage play by the Hunts to see if Missouri is a big enough mark to get suckered into an even bigger bidding war to "win" the team. I'd like to think it's a done deal, but I've followed sports and public policy too long to be confident that it's really done as in done until binding documents are signed..... and even then it's never really over until the games start being played.
I find it incredibly stupid for Kansas legislators to bail out the billionaire Hunts. It must be leftover stupid from the Sam "Trickle-down" Brownback's administration.
There might be a way this benefits people in the KC metro area. While trying to get a business to relocate to Johnson County, having a nice new shiny stadium and an NFL team for the president to get season tickets to, it might help sway them. It wouldn’t be the only reason, but it could help.
Trying to find a positive here. It is Christmas, after all.
Good luck Kansas! NFL stadiums are notoriously money pits when financed with taxpayer money. It’s crazy that the people who are for this are the same ones that balk when people receive welfare.
I live in MO, but not a Chiefs fan. How or why anyone in either MO or KS would still support the team is beyond me. I hope all the KS residents enjoy making Hunt richer.
The wealthy whites move to Kansas to get away from those “different- non white” people. I’m not happy with billionaires and corporations holding cities & states hostage for free stuff or they move… but that is the way pure unchecked capitalism. Owner first. Kansas will be left in the dust as soon as another city offers more.
Anybody heard how much they will raise ticket prices - since fans will get an enclosed stadium…. They should pay more.
We’ll see if Kansas sees much economic benefit from this. I feel like stadiums out in the suburbs don’t generate much traffic to other businesses nearby. This is especially true when so many fans tailgate. As it is Arrowhead doesn’t have much around it.
The Bears are trying to pull the same crap in the Chicago suburbs and just threatened to move to Gary, Indiana. Far as I’m concerned they can jump right over. I’m sure Indiana taxpayers will love to eat that cost, and I just know the NFL is dying to have a Super Bowl in the birthplace of Michael Jackson.
Just posted about this in r/stlouis. Privatize gains socialize the losses for billionaire pet projects. Like I said there. I’d love to see the profit and loss for taxpayers as politicians try to sell their ai data centers as the next big “savior” for the region. 😂
That’s how a small market city keeps its team. Look at Buffalo. You have two choices, folks, pay the NFL cartel or they take your team. Hell, STL could have given the Rams a free stadium and they wouldn’t take it because the television money from teams in LA made them that much richer. If you’re a Missouri Chiefs fan, you should be dancing. You keep your team less than 3000 miles away and Kansas pays for it. Truck in your own booze and food to tailgate, all it costs you is inflated ticket prices in a brand new stadium. I don’t get why KS and MO fans hate each other, but if you do, MO fans got a gift.
Incorrect evidently. Everybody argued with me about this earlier and changed my mind. This is good for KS and bad for MO. We are losing big time. It's not just 23 miles in the same broadcast area. /s
So by 2031, Chefs should be a big stinking team of shit. So don’t care.
Hope this opens the door for Royals downtown. Mayor Lucas better make some moves. Sure he doesn’t want his legacy to be mayor who lost both pro sports teams.
It’s so interesting to me that you guys will make excuses for Somalis stealing billions in fraud, the billions we send overseas, the billions we waste on illegals but will cry about a new stadium in your own backyard.
The Hunts are cunts.
Welfare queens
Socialism for thee, not for me.
cHunts
I say they are Cosplay Christians.
10,000 less seats and season ticket costs are likely to triple or quadruple with PSLs added, like happened with the new Buffalo stadium that taxpayers funded. Glad it's not MO funding it atleast.
Yep. I’ll go or I won’t. But I don’t have to pay for it which is nice.
Look on the bright side - 10k fewer seats means a significantly higher cost per ticket just to generate the same amount of revenue, so a bunch of rich assholes that don't live in the area have a lot more room to party without any of these nasty poor Kansans getting too close to them.
What's not to love?
Just another case of tax payers funding a palace for multi billionaires and millionaire players to play a game. These deals are never good for the. City or state
100%, sadly, Kansas is just pulling companies and business from across the state line. No one wants to go there, so only locals will. Kansas doesn't have a "power house" city and sucks the teet of KCMO.
Shall we call them the Kansas Shitty Chiefs now?
I was thinking of calling them the chumps
What is PSL?
Personal Seat License. It's something YOU get to buy to get the PRIVILEGE to buy season tickets. We had them in St. Louis for the Rams before they went bye bye.
Thank you! I keep reading PSL and couldn’t figure it out.
Yep. For the Bills, the PSL for a decent seat is $8k. Have friends who have had season tickets for 40 years and the Bills said “great, you can keep your seats in the new stadium BUT you owe us $32k + $9k for those 4 seats next year.” He said “no thanks” and he is done with attending games. Season ticket holder will be lose their asses if/when Josh Allen slows down. I’m predicting a half empty stadium in their years ahead. 1982-1991 and 1995-2019 were difficult.
They will drop the PSL price if the team isn’t winning.
I remember those. I had an aunt who was well off who bought one for a few years in the 90’s. If she wasn’t attending a game, someone else in the family would get them. I was lucky enough to snag tickets for the playoff game that sent them to the Superbowl.
As far as the Chiefs go, screw ‘em. I’ll watch if they make it to the Superbowl, but they’re Kansas’s problem now, and good riddance to the greedy bastards that own them.
No, those are season tickets. PSLs is something you buy before you buy the season tix
At the time I said, "That's a tax I don't have to pay. "
Pumpkin Spice Latte, obviously!
Yeah, but so many more corporate boxes, that’s where the money is.
It’ll be less total seats but more premium spaces. Premium seating is often 4x or more per head, often netting more cash with less people to serve.
Buffalonian here. Love me the bills but gd, what the fuck is with this socializing the cost but then privatizing earnings?
There is no way to make it make any sense.
Missouri learned their lesson. Kansas will learn theirs with this one.
How do you know there will be less seats?
It's stated in the linked article and the president of the Chiefs said that when talking to reporters at the announcement.
He explicitly said 65K-68K seats, which means 65K, and which would put it in the BOTTOM three of seating capacity.
Arrowhead, at 76K, is the 4th largest. Say goodbye. :(
love it. see ya later loudest stadium in the league.
Thanks.
Socialize funding, privatize profits.
The core precept of the American economy is to separate the payor from the benefittor, so that the payor carries the burden without benefit, and the benefittor obtains the benefit without the burden.
Separating the cost from the benefit is how the American economic model works!
That’s how our Congress wants ALL business. Oil and Gas? ✔️ Health insurance ✔️ construction infrastructure ✔️ new roads✔️ Big corps paying peanuts so their employees qualify for federal programs ✔️. Unless you are a small ma and paw shop. Then you can kick rocks. I can’t say it’s R or D. It lobbyist and PACs that buy their way.
I believe it goes, privatizing profits, socializing loses
Happy for MO, sucks for Kansas
As a Missourian, god I hope this goes through 🤞
Rare missouri W
Aren't both these states welfare states? Is California helping pay for this stadium?
I'm happy about bad things happening to kansas
I’m not happy for Kansas by any means. Anytime lower and middle class fund projects and the profit goes to billionaires it’s a bad situation.
You should put away your fake sports rivalry and realize that when billionaires get their way like this, every working class American loses. The Kansans who are on the ground actually fighting against the wealthy’s hold on their state’s politics are unsurprisingly among the ones getting fucked by the bad things you’re celebrating.
The Kansans on the ground have been voting for their corporate overlords for so many decades it defines their very existence. This is the most Kansas move.
As someone from Missouri you should be able to empathize with being in a minority sane voters in a sea of right wing nut jobs.
My cousin works for a millionaire farmer who routinely has dinners with the Kansas Governor and the chief of police in Topeka. I assure you, what you just said is extremely accurate. The average Kansan is a backwoods fucking idiot and i have a front row seat unfortunately.
Moved here for college. There’s zero sense of civic engagement or responsibility. Zero community cohesion beyond “muh farm.” Rampant corruption. It’s fucking embarrassing, no wonder they’re in a recession.
The overall sentiment from the locals is actually as you’ve said. I talk to people from Kansas everyday and it’s like I’m struggling to understand how they people are not able to see it
We shouldn't let the entitlement class divide us poors and set us against each other.
That's the same trick they've played across all human history to enrich themselves by fucking everyone else.
It’s not like the state is going to funnel that money into public programs, but at least the Chiefs aren’t a drain on us.
I guess it really is all about the money. KC has a fantastic downtown, and the Power and Light district to take care of the fans, but..oh well.🤷♂️
Welfare for the billionaires.
Billionaires would not exist without it.
They got the guns…we got the numbers…may take a week…may take longer…
Fucking A
Why is it called “economic improvement “ when you,give over a billion dollars to millionaires but is called welfare when you give the same amount to people with nothing?
About $6000 per resident. Absolutely insane.
$1k/Kansas resident, but that's still absolutely fucking insane. Corporate Welfare Queens.
This is one protest I'd be at. $1k per or $6k per. Should be nothing. Then the owner hikes up ticket prices and tv packages sky high? For what? What are the residents actually paying for?
I love how r/NFL has a few threads on this matter and it's full of people shitting on Kansas.
Thanks r/Kansas for showing us there are still states even dumber than ours.
Debatable. Our government is doing what Kansas did not too long ago that completely tanked their economy, so we're in no position to gloat just yet. But yeah, this instance is a win
Consistent with Kansas' history of budgetary prowess.
Missouri is over here recycling brownback’s bullshit ideas, so we’re still losing.
Absolutely. I don’t live in MO anymore, but loosely follow the politics. How the state Congress just overturns the will of the people over and over is disgusting.
The Hunts are no different than Stan Kronke. Except that they Kansas to foot the bill. Horrible people
Obligatory FUCK STAN KRONKE. I hope that mfer rots next to Satan's sweaty ball sack for eternity
Stan stole the Rams from STL. Such a toad…
Hey, STL got a butt load of cash from Stan.. That 14 mil the city spent to try and keep the Rams here, major ROI on that! Hindsight 50/50, but the city came out with a big fat W on that one! The dome is aging but just fine. Hosting events year round instead of blocking off 18-20 weeks for the NFL. Get fucked Stan!
Of the rich, by the rich, for the rich!
Of the talented, by the people, for the rich FTFY
3/5’s…
Kansas got fucked. Sideways.
Glad MO ain't footing the bill.
Americans love making billionaires richer!! The football team gets billions but people go bankrupt over silly things like healthcare cost. Or in this case the city won't have money to repair potholes or to build a transportation infrastructure...
Look at who owns the land around the new location for the venues. They are the ones who benefit from the deal. Think hotels, restaurants and other venues.
As with most things political, follow the money to find the truth.
their is a lot of research saying the opposite happens, people just drive to game & leave.
Locals will also avoid those area'd due to traffic.
Absolutely. Who drives to arrowhead Sunday morning, pays $60 to park, $200+ for tickets, tailgates 3 hours drinking, watches a 3 hour game drinking, waits in a line of cars leaving the parking lot for 1 hour, and thinks "I wish there were an overpriced sports bar across the street"? Even if they did, businesses can't survive on 10 days of customers a year.
I live in Houston, and the area around NRG is notoriously rough. The stadium hasnt done a damn thing to improve the area
The only reason it has some decent apartments nearby is the Texas Medical Center
And NRG has been around for over 20 years now
They can only play football at the new stadium?
NFL stadiums generally only host a few non-football events per year, even in bigger cities than KC. There are just not a lot of events big enough to warrant taking place in a football stadium.
Arrowhead definitely hosts 130+ private catered events a year. Now will that translate into business for the surrounding business. Probably not. But to say nfl stadiums host few non nfl events per year is shortsighted.
Yeah of course they use the facility for small catered events, but catered events by definition don't generate business for nearby restaurants. Also all 130 of those events combined amount to a tiny fraction of the attendance of a single large event.
It depends a lot on the stadium design. There is a big difference between petco park and arrowhead stadium. One of them has been a consistent driver of a growing neighborhood economy. One definitely has not.
For the individual businesses, this is true. But the developers who will already bought the land and have big plans to develop it will make lots and lots of money.
Kansas is giving out $1B to build up various venues in the area, so it is likely that somebody is going to make use of the money.
That's the thing, the owners don't give AF about the locals and the fans. They literally came out and said, this new stadium will open the door to host Super Bowls, Final Fours, etc.. So they will build hotels, casinos, shops, etc around the dome. They too will own these buildings, and even if they get one major event every other year, it will pay for itself hand over fist, because just like this thread has said, 100% profits go to the owners, and the sales taxes gets funneled right into their pockets. Schools\roads\police\fire all be damned.
Those police will work 75 hours the week of the super bowl and be thankful to their owner overlords for giving them jesus christ their lord and savor for allowing such amazing billionaires. /s
If stadium adjacent land was so valuable there would be more than just a taco bell next to Arrowhead.
Unless you aren't willing to pay the price the owner of said land wants.
If the traditional tailgating continues, no one is going to be going to those businesses. Everyone will drink and eat in the lots and then wander back home.
I know what you mean. Just look at the Adam’s Mark. I stayed there after the last home game. It was awesome, I think i have tetanus and Hep. B now.
It’s called corporate welfare.
In other news, GO BEARS 🐻
Yes, the Indiana Bears apparently. Fugg ‘em.
😂 that’s the De Motte, Indiana Bears… thank you very much
Gary Bears has a nice ring to it.
If by that you mean Missouri State Bears, then yes 🐻
Imagine how many poverty-stricken people that could feed and house, but since I was born into an oil family, I call dibs on government handouts.
Government is merely a business. The only interest in its people, err, subjects, is control.
Either state was going to hosed.
Yes, but if I have to choose, I’m glad it wasn’t the one where I live.
i love the Packers more now than ever
Just leaning in to inform on something I just learned.
After the Packers, the NFL outlawed publicly owned teams like that. The whole organization is rotten.
They're thinking of allowing institutional investors to own teams, which could be a loophole for that
NFL is greedy AF
These terms might be worse than Rams debacle here in St Louis back in the mid 90s. Although it appears the Chiefs may be putting some construction money up.
But, the City did collect amusement/sports sales taxes from ticket sales, and 1% earnings tax from the the Rams [and visiting clubs, IIRC]
Yeah well Missouri is trying to get rid of income tax, so I guess we’re only losing the sales tax then? :/
How will the Hunts ever feed themselves if they couldn't afford to fund this themselves...
Welfare for the rich is good. Welfare for the poor is bad. Murica 101
The state will receive one complimentary suite within the stadium. If that suite becomes unavailable due to circumstances beyond the Chiefs' control (e.g., the World Cup or Super Bowl), the team must provide the state with a comparable suite. The state will cover all food and beverage expenses inside its suite.
What a great deal for Kansas
When I saw this deal, I’m glad Missouri said bye bye. Funding a multi billionaire is nonsense. When are cities going to stop playing this game? They get 10-12 dates a year? I don’t see how that can offset 3 billion in tax payers money.
Socialism for the rich, bootstraps for everyone else. Now please enjoy your $18 beer.
The Hunts are billionaires for a reason. Just like nearly every billionaire they exploit everyone and then move on to a new exploitation.
Welcome to the wonderful world of Pay to Play Sports Stadium Baiting.
Kansas is not the smartest knife in the drawer. I am not happy about any of this crap.
They just bought a loosing team, with a past his prime coach and injuries and retirements clouding the teams future.
Now I can root for the Colts.
Glad to be rid of the parasite
This is why Jackson County voted "no".
The Hunts own the land already and will sell it to the chiefs at a profit. Tack that on.
Enjoy the taxes, Kansas.
Time to file a lawsuit to stop this. Billionaires can afford to build their own stadium. The governor should be recalled if Kansas law allows it.
All so the Kansas City Chiefs can now be called the Kansas City Chiefs.
Kansas City Kansas Chiefs, I like the connotation that comes with it lol
KaChiefs
Moving from the intersection of 70 & 435 to the intersection of 70 & 435
The Bonner Springs Chiefs
Kansas Chiefs or Big Tyme Jayhawks is what’s being thrown around
😂
I don’t want to say it, but it must be said. It’s the dead dynasty payout.
Good for us. Fucking paying them $3b
Hahaha Kansas is a state run by complete idiots. They manage to make our state nincompoops actually look competent
I don’t think I’d go that far.
Probably for the best for Kansas to foot the bill. After all the team demonstrated this season they’re on a downward trajectory with Mahomes out and a pretty lackluster showing this season.
Is Sam Brownback governor again?
As a chiefs hater, see ya! So glad we aren’t paying for this horseshit. The NFL is becoming a league of welfare billionaires and I stopped watching the day the rams left. Such a scam league.
These are all the same people that thought Trump was a good idea. So this line of thinking checks out.
These deals need to be outlawed. They NEVER give back as much in lost tax revenue.
It's a real shame tax payers still put up with this
I would expect nothing less from the morons in Kansas.
Missouri dodged a bullet on this deal... don't let the door hit you on your way out, Hunt
Kansas doesn’t make good financial decisions
Before we dunk on Kansas too much, Field of Schemes is reporting that yesterday was merely the announcement of a non-binding term sheet between Kansas and the Hunts. With Gov. Moron Mike saying he wants to see how much more money we'd have to give the Hunts to stay in MO, I suspect this was simply a leverage play by the Hunts to see if Missouri is a big enough mark to get suckered into an even bigger bidding war to "win" the team. I'd like to think it's a done deal, but I've followed sports and public policy too long to be confident that it's really done as in done until binding documents are signed..... and even then it's never really over until the games start being played.
Simple message to this franchise: yo ship sailed yo.
Welcome to Kansas! We're not that bright.
Let Kansas have them, poor devils
I find it incredibly stupid for Kansas legislators to bail out the billionaire Hunts. It must be leftover stupid from the Sam "Trickle-down" Brownback's administration.
Remember this in the 2070s when they come begging for another new stadium.
Good luck!
Happy to be a broncos fan. lol
Idiots
Why the F is the state even providing funding?? What a con.
Pretty typical US deal.
Kansas isn’t really all that smart when it comes to $
Missouri=smarter than Kansas
That’s Kansas problem now
Kansas government: “we did it” Kansans: “we did it” Kansas government: “Ah poor people! SECURITY!”
Kansas kissing the hunts ass,big surprise
There might be a way this benefits people in the KC metro area. While trying to get a business to relocate to Johnson County, having a nice new shiny stadium and an NFL team for the president to get season tickets to, it might help sway them. It wouldn’t be the only reason, but it could help.
Trying to find a positive here. It is Christmas, after all.
Good luck Kansas! NFL stadiums are notoriously money pits when financed with taxpayer money. It’s crazy that the people who are for this are the same ones that balk when people receive welfare.
"Let's create a gang that has the right to use violence to take money from everyone!"
"That's awful, we can't do that! That's just mobsters with a protection racket!"
"We'll rationalize it by using the money to support the public welfare."
"Ok, I guess I can accept that."
"Great! Now let's give most of the money to rich assholes!"
"What!? No! That's not what we agreed to!"
"I only said most. We'll spend a tiny bit on the public and you'll be glad to get it."
"That's not what we agreed to!"
"So what? We have your money, and a huge gang of armed assholes who will gladly hurt you if you do anything to try to stop us."
"... fuck..."
Congrats taxpayers of Kansas... You got played.
I live in MO, but not a Chiefs fan. How or why anyone in either MO or KS would still support the team is beyond me. I hope all the KS residents enjoy making Hunt richer.
Socialism….?
AND it might be after the wrong side of a dynasty….oh dear.
Missouri makes a good decision FOR ONCE
15 years ago Missouri had 2 teams in 10 years they’ll have non. lol
The wealthy whites move to Kansas to get away from those “different- non white” people. I’m not happy with billionaires and corporations holding cities & states hostage for free stuff or they move… but that is the way pure unchecked capitalism. Owner first. Kansas will be left in the dust as soon as another city offers more.
Anybody heard how much they will raise ticket prices - since fans will get an enclosed stadium…. They should pay more.
The only thing Kansas knows is poor economic decisions.. feel bad for the people there, but they keep voting in the same folks
The stadium will boost a lot of businesses, hotels , restaurants, bars etc
Suckers
Sad what nfl teams and the elected officials do to city with these deals.
Jackson county dodged a bullet.
We’ll see if Kansas sees much economic benefit from this. I feel like stadiums out in the suburbs don’t generate much traffic to other businesses nearby. This is especially true when so many fans tailgate. As it is Arrowhead doesn’t have much around it.
This is the worst thing Missouri has done to Kansas since Quantrill.
Welcome to the economics of sports……to all those that are all weepy,,” you’d take the same deal
You get what you vote for
The Bears are trying to pull the same crap in the Chicago suburbs and just threatened to move to Gary, Indiana. Far as I’m concerned they can jump right over. I’m sure Indiana taxpayers will love to eat that cost, and I just know the NFL is dying to have a Super Bowl in the birthplace of Michael Jackson.
Shame, how did that even happened…
Kansas is contributing 1.8B
Just posted about this in r/stlouis. Privatize gains socialize the losses for billionaire pet projects. Like I said there. I’d love to see the profit and loss for taxpayers as politicians try to sell their ai data centers as the next big “savior” for the region. 😂
Oh, you don't say? Its almost like it was a bad deal from the start.
Kansas gets the taxes though…
All just to have a team. Screw the grifters.
Kansas got bent over.
People,
For Christ's sake. The purpose of this exercise is to steal the Chiefs from Missouri and Kansas has won!!!!
Obviously "price is no object" is the key point here and in a quarter of a century the cost will mean nothing.
Chill
If the MO legislature would have proposed this, most of these negative Redditors would be celebrating.
absolute robbery by billionaires. disgusting.
Change the name to Kansas City Kansans
See who goes to a game then, eh?
Taxes
Goodbye NFL. Please don't ever darken the Show Me State's door again.
That’s how a small market city keeps its team. Look at Buffalo. You have two choices, folks, pay the NFL cartel or they take your team. Hell, STL could have given the Rams a free stadium and they wouldn’t take it because the television money from teams in LA made them that much richer. If you’re a Missouri Chiefs fan, you should be dancing. You keep your team less than 3000 miles away and Kansas pays for it. Truck in your own booze and food to tailgate, all it costs you is inflated ticket prices in a brand new stadium. I don’t get why KS and MO fans hate each other, but if you do, MO fans got a gift.
Classic
The Hunt family are the real welfare queens.
Welfare for billionaires
As a taxpayer with zero interest in football, bye-eee!
Incorrect evidently. Everybody argued with me about this earlier and changed my mind. This is good for KS and bad for MO. We are losing big time. It's not just 23 miles in the same broadcast area. /s
definitely not a W for Mo, the train wreck is there for KS , but that's saying it won't generate enough sales tax to pay back the bonds
legislator was already not worried about infrastructure or schools or anything useful like medical care or pot or gta 6
(remember they gave tax -free promises, to a waterpark which later murdered one of their kids)
but of course had luck with village west, and sporting park
*tldr its a pending* w for kansans
Wow the chiefs org really are trying to be a hated team. Incredible moves.
So by 2031, Chefs should be a big stinking team of shit. So don’t care.
Hope this opens the door for Royals downtown. Mayor Lucas better make some moves. Sure he doesn’t want his legacy to be mayor who lost both pro sports teams.
It’s so interesting to me that you guys will make excuses for Somalis stealing billions in fraud, the billions we send overseas, the billions we waste on illegals but will cry about a new stadium in your own backyard.
Who here is making excuses
Bread and games for the masses paid by the masses
All profits goes to the organizers
Hail Caesar. Pax Romana