Corporate welfare in general, corporations pay no income tax while their CEO’s get tax breaks flying private jets. Soon will have our first trillionaire, what a dystopian nightmare.
They used to be but gave that up in 2015 due to public outcry. It made sense though and I imagine the tax burden hasn't changed, it may have just switched who is paying the check. The idea was that the NFL doesn't keep a profit, any profit the league generates is distributed to the teams and the teams have always been for profit entities that had to pay tax on that money.
Are they, it would be interesting to see the population breakdown of attendance post move. They are banking on KCMO fans to continue to support the team.
Since my response to this was removed from r/KansasCityChiefs a few minutes ago: The Hunts are welfare queens. If they are only going to pay for 30% of the cost, they should only get 30% of the revenue. They're far from the only ones to do this; it's a rarity for the people who will reap all the benefits to pay for their own facilities. The TX Rangers stadium was an issue in the GW Bush campaign, back when people were paying attention and had a problem with tax dollars paying for private sports franchises.
The only thing I argue with is that people aren’t paying attention and letting it happen. St. Louis and KC both voted no on further funding for stadiums for the Chiefs, Cards, and Royals. But then good ole daddy governor created a fund just for the poor billionaires
The State gets nothing right now. The tax incentives for the sports complex are higher than the tax revenue it generates. It operates at a deficit, which is why they don't want to pay for it.
Kansas wins again. They are going to suck the MO side dry with these tax incentives, again. This isn’t really the win you think it is.
Edit: down vote all you want. For those not on this side of the state, the chiefs are not the first company we are losing even just this last few months. It’s going on the list of tax bases that Kansas continues to eat up from the MO side. And Jackson County continues to shoot itself in the foot.
Lol. The joke is on Kansas. Professional sports stadiums are ALWAYS a net negative ROI. The economic benefits of a professional sports stadium are on par with a department store, like Macy's. So Kansas is getting ready to pony up hundreds of millions to get a Macy's.
The only people these deals benefit are the billionaire team owners and the elected officials who take their bribes.
Yeah... I really feel like this is gonna make a lot of Missourian fans feel ostracized. It was set up in a way that they played into both states but moving out of Missouri does seem like a slap in the face and all the fans across the state who adopted them once the Rams left are gonna drop them.
People think this is a crazy take since they're not moving far but people don't understand the tribalism of sports. The same reason Kansas residents are so excited even though they're on the bill for it is the same reason Missourians are gonna turn from them.
Kansas alone cannot support an NFL team especially after pissing off half the fan base and their closest neighbor. I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if they relocate again in the next decade.
How any Missourians, at least in the STL area, continued to support the NFL by shifting allegiance to the Chiefs after their fuckery with Kroenke is beyond me.
It was a huge demonstration that these owners don't have any affinity towards the fandom only money. I certainly hope many Chiefs fans learn their lesson this time. Stop supporting this wealthy welfare queens. The state (Missouri and Kansas) is a fucking shambles and those resources can be way better spent then on a soon-to-be mediocre sports team.
It looks like Missourians hard-earned Taxdollars wasn't enough to buy their loyalty for more than a season. IMO Missouri would be better of with the Kansas City Welfare Queens and the "Hunt" that owns them.
My man, read a few more comments before you drop your hot take. They had already cleared up that it was a reference to The Office. And it was an obvious joke regardless, because someone who’s happy to go wherever they “value loyalty the most” obviously isn’t demonstrating loyalty.
Former Jackson County resident. I voted no on extending sales tax increase for the stadiums last year. I literally just moved across the border into Kansas a month ago, so I guess I'll end up getting taxed for Clark's fancy new building anyway lol.
Eagles fan here so I don't have a dog in this fight. Went to the Eagles/Chiefs game in September, and as someone who went to games at The Vet, Arrowhead was great for its age. Guessing some areas need renovation, but this is purely a money grab so they can host large-scale concerts in the cold weather months and a Super Bowl/Final Four. Feel bad for Chiefs fans in KCMO, but this is hilarious that Kansas is going to foot the bill for the new stadium when the team starts descending into mediocrity.
Better remove that KC name too dont let that door hit ya on the way out, Plus I wanna give a big fuck you to all the Kroenke's and Hunt's out there and the NFL.
And only people from Missouri ever think of the a chiefs as a MO only team. I never once cared the stadium was in Missouri when I went there. Trust me, Kansans aren’t going to care if people from Missouri come to the stadium or not.
The thing is its not a Missouri's or Kansas' thing, it's the Hunt's and the Kroenke's of the world thing, if Kansas decides to say no (not saying they will) what would happen then, we would be welcoming the Salt Lake Chiefs next year. Its not about the teams its about the loyalty of the owners and unwillingness to spend money on things like stadiums like normal companies have to do. They just use the "it bring all the boys to the yard" money and act like its cause of them, no people would just spend the money elsewhere.
On top of that, cause i am bored, we spent 425 millions dollars in tax payer funds since 70's they haven't even covered that in taxes paid to the state, even including charities they donate to doesn't even scratch the surface.
They also keep saying thing about the businesses near the stadiums make money from them too, in KC that stadium was built in the middle of nowhere and still not much out there. It did not bring them to build there just have to commute or stay at a hotel now.
I love baseball, not so much football but I have the same stance w them as well, if you want us to front the bill, your output to the community needs to be the same or more. If the cardinals said pay for our stadium or we move, bye bye.
Please let this move happen while the UFL remains in existence. It would be hilarious if the Battlehawks were the best professional football team in Missouri. I mean, they are anyway, but this would solidify their claim.
I didn't say "good football," sweetheart. I said "best professional football team in Missouri." Which, if the timing works out, will one day be true. Sorry your reading comprehension level is the way it is, little one.
Taxpayer funded stadiums, particularly football, are almost always a bad idea. It isn't like the NFL isn't turning a huge profit each year either. The 50% public funding level was too high that MO was putting in. 70% is just asinine.
Soooooo, public money is handed to these sports welfare queens - so the public can visit and pay hideous amounts for tickets, concessions, apparel….etc. sincerely, F-Off.
Honestly. Thanks for 20+ years of suffering then 3 Superbowl wins. Thanks for DT. Thanks for Priest Holmes and JC. Thanks for fun with Andy Pat and Kelce.
I'm a Broncos fan, but I'm also a long time resident of St. Louis.
I'm frustrated for our state, but I'm glad MO won't be paying tax dollars for that greedy fuck. Arrowhead is my favorite NFL stadium and it isn't close. Fuck them.
Act like the ppl want this. Lol we pay shit tons in taxes and get nothing out of it. Our roads suck, schools suck, farming sucks. The rest of Kansas does not live in Kansas City Kansas.
They 100% expect this to kick off a new bidding war between the two states to see who will pay more of the $3 billion dollar new stadium.
This is very far from done and I’m sure the Hunt family is salivating over how much more they can squeeze out of tax payers as the two states fight over who can give them more money.
I’m personally fine with Johnson County taking over for these welfare queens. I can just as easily watch them lose from there as I can from Arrowhead, but I’m sure Kehoe has plans to pull as much funding from anywhere to keep them.
They’ll move in 2030, which is about when Mahomes career may or may not be over, so like most of Missouri prior to Mahomes we can all go back to ignoring them.
I hope Jackson County and Missouri continue to negotiate with the Chiefs, only to rug pull them in the end and put them in a position where then can be extorted for an exorbitant lease as a hold-over when Clark Hunt overplays his negotiating position.
Kansans may organize a go-fundme to sue the authorities involved in planning and zoning for this stadium. It happened with the speedway.
Good. And in twenty years when the Chiefs are looking for a new stadium, Missouri will get their turn again. And it can go back and forth as long as taxpayers continue to be the suckers they are.
When the owners give zero shits and no respect for the fan base by asking for tax dollars for a new stadium?? Don't let the doors hit ya in the ass packing your shit out the door.
Is there a lot of open land there that got bought up recently? As with all of these things, there is a scratch my back and I’ll scratch yours. Guessing developers will have a heyday with this. How sad
General question for KC residents from a St. Louisian. Are there any backup plans to redevelop the area if both teams jump ship to Kansas? Or could arrowhead / Kaufman just sit vacant for an extended period of time?
It will definitely just sit vacant. There’s nothing in the immediate area now, and what is around it is either industrial areas or (sadly) run down housing.
Jackson county will end up on the hook to spend millions to demolish the old stadiums or simply let them rot. So one again the taxpayers on the hook to cover the cost of the stadiums for the billionaire owners. Can't imagine anything that would suddenly pop-up in that area that would need that much space. Perhaps it can return to farmland or nature that was there before they built the stadiums.
Did you see the trick they just pulled on Kansas taxpayers?
A SEVENTY PERCENT star bond is insane. Nobody in their right mind would agree to that. Very abnormal. They used that procedure so it wouldn't require a vote and they could get around the citizens knowing that if they actually were informed of what they would be paying ahead of time they would say no.
Kansas taxpayers are going to be fronting the money for this ("It'll pay itself off in 25 years") with no chance of recuperation for decades. Kansas people, you just got played SO bad.
Always nice to see the billionaires paying their fair share…oh wait. To be honest, fuck the hunt family. This will be my last year as a season ticket holder. I’m not cucking for the Chiefs billionaire owner’s get-richer agenda. Instead of showing them, I will just have to tell my kids about how cool arrowhead was when they’re grown. Raiders 2.0. Fuck the hunts. I hope they lose their ass on the whole deal in the long run. Lamar would be rolling in his grave.
Starting today I will not support the chiefs or spend money in Kansas. Missourians can make them regret their choice. It's our dollars that the Hunts and STAR bonds are counting on. Send them a message.
What is it about Kansas City that makes entire states try to compete with us or take credit for things we're known for?
First Texas with BBQ and now Kansas with football. The state of Missouri even claims our wins constantly despite actively working against the function of the city at nearly every possible impasse.
Not even sure what you mean? Are you implying BBQ was invented in KC? I've never heard KC-style BBQ attributed to anywhere in Texas.
But as a St. Louisan, I agree that this state fucking sucks. Jefferson City doesn't like to do anything to support KC/STL but gladly takes the tax dollars that support the state and whatever other accolades the cities get.
Not even sure what you mean? Are you implying BBQ was invented in KC? I've never heard KC-style BBQ attributed to anywhere in Texas.
KC style BBQ was invented in Kansas City, obviously, and we also functionally invented burnt ends and popularized them. Texans claim basically all brisket as their own, along with multiple indications that they "invented pit BBQ" or "slow and low" styles that have complicated origins that passed through much of the midwest and the south.
Overall though, I'm more talking about how the entire state of Texas will claim to have superior BBQ to Kansas City and will then drown out any argument to the contrary with sheer numbers of people/comments. KC hosts the "World Series of BBQ" every year, so it's not uncommon to hear this kind of claim with frequency from Texas teams.
To my previous post's point, it's similar to how the entire state of Kansas has more resources at their disposal than Kansas City alone and can always outbid/outincentive the city because they have the whole state's resources available to them.
Good - Missourians don't have to socialize them anymore.
Kansas City is a cool city, but it lacks culture and interesting attractions to do because everything there revolves around sports. Any development is good development obviously… but I think it is a manifestation of Kansas City's bigger identity crisis that is preventing it from becoming a truly interesting place for outsiders to visit. Even the newer streetcar line that they are wire testing as we speak only exists to go to a new soccer stadium and some riff raff private equity apartment complexes. It's why even with St. Louis's crime reputation going heavily against it, it's still much more culturally rich and interesting place.
What makes me laugh too is they are going to build (in effect) a duplicate of this stadium with an added dome, and it's going to be way outside of town off of some suburb-pandering auxiliary interstate that is an hour from anything interesting… just like how the existing stadium is now. Oh cool… the families can go visit Hu-Hot or Red Robin before the big game! What a wasteful and stupid world we live in.
Perhaps people outside of Kansas City think everything revolves around sports (though that’s not even very accurate, with only one good team in the big 4 sports), but that’s certainly not the view of people IN Kansas City. We have plenty of culture, as long as you are open to looking.
Also, nothing here is an hour from anything. Arrowhead is about 10-15 minutes from downtown. It’s 20-30 from basically everywhere else in the metro. I can be there in 15 from my house. The proposed site is much further for me…though still only about 40 minutes because I have to go all the way across the metro. And it’s not like there’s nothing there. KCK has exploded over the last 10-15 years. I can think of worse things to do than go eat before a game.
I don't think I expressed my original comment well. My main gripe is that all of its recent expansions all have a primary focus on sports only. I'm not saying Kansas City has no culture at all - but if you're going to tell me that it does have some regionally-acknowledged, renowned culture then you are being dishonest.
The mere controversy of this sports stadium, which has been going on for years now, is pretty evident
We have quite a large and thriving arts scene here. People aren’t going to normally fly o to town to see those performances, but that’s true of any city other than Chicago and NY.
We have the Kansas City ballet, Kansas City symphony, 5 equity theatres, multiple community theatres, including the largest in the country. A world class conservatory for instrumental, vocal and dance. The Nelson Atkins museum is very well curated. Plus we have the crossroads arts district with art galleries and smaller theatres.
Having things other cities have is not a lack of culture. Having a ballet doesn’t mean the ballet is the same as another city. Having equity theatres premiering new works means they are new, unique shows. Of course, other cities have premiers, but not the same premiers.
I’m so sick and tired of major league sports making money off tax dollars. Talk about welfare.
Corporate welfare in general, corporations pay no income tax while their CEO’s get tax breaks flying private jets. Soon will have our first trillionaire, what a dystopian nightmare.
Don’t forget that the NFL is a nonprofit…
It looks like they gave up that status in 2015.
WHAT. TIL
They used to be but gave that up in 2015 due to public outcry. It made sense though and I imagine the tax burden hasn't changed, it may have just switched who is paying the check. The idea was that the NFL doesn't keep a profit, any profit the league generates is distributed to the teams and the teams have always been for profit entities that had to pay tax on that money.
Nothing sadder than billionaires begging for handouts and playing states against each other. I hope KS taxpayers don't regret subsidizing this team.
I hope they do regret it. Why should we wish the best for a state willing to subsidize billionaires at our state’s expense?
Have they even recovered from the Brownback experiment?
WE didn't have a choice, did we? I don't remember voting for this.
Are they, it would be interesting to see the population breakdown of attendance post move. They are banking on KCMO fans to continue to support the team.
Because Missouri would do it too… lol it’s just Mo government is too stupid
Since my response to this was removed from r/KansasCityChiefs a few minutes ago: The Hunts are welfare queens. If they are only going to pay for 30% of the cost, they should only get 30% of the revenue. They're far from the only ones to do this; it's a rarity for the people who will reap all the benefits to pay for their own facilities. The TX Rangers stadium was an issue in the GW Bush campaign, back when people were paying attention and had a problem with tax dollars paying for private sports franchises.
It’s so disgusting seeing them do this time and time again.
this comment needs to be higher !
Why? Every comment is saying this and has said this on every Reddit post for months. It’s not a unique or interesting opinion
Yet still nobody seems to get it
The only thing I argue with is that people aren’t paying attention and letting it happen. St. Louis and KC both voted no on further funding for stadiums for the Chiefs, Cards, and Royals. But then good ole daddy governor created a fund just for the poor billionaires
So if they pay 100% …. They get 100% of the Sales Tax and Income tax and be State gets nothing?
The State gets nothing right now. The tax incentives for the sports complex are higher than the tax revenue it generates. It operates at a deficit, which is why they don't want to pay for it.
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Not quite “nothing” and the benefits will still come to KC mo area too
Kansas wins again. They are going to suck the MO side dry with these tax incentives, again. This isn’t really the win you think it is.
Edit: down vote all you want. For those not on this side of the state, the chiefs are not the first company we are losing even just this last few months. It’s going on the list of tax bases that Kansas continues to eat up from the MO side. And Jackson County continues to shoot itself in the foot.
I don’t think you’ve looked at the economics of stadiums
Lol. The joke is on Kansas. Professional sports stadiums are ALWAYS a net negative ROI. The economic benefits of a professional sports stadium are on par with a department store, like Macy's. So Kansas is getting ready to pony up hundreds of millions to get a Macy's.
The only people these deals benefit are the billionaire team owners and the elected officials who take their bribes.
Missouri and KC will be fine without them.
This is a great thing for citizens of Missouri.
Wins again in what?
I downvoted you for crying about downvotes.
This is going to backfire so much once the mahomes era ends and they go back to being perpetually average.
Exactly - and the current lease is up in 2030. Nice job KS (Kansan here)
Yeah... I really feel like this is gonna make a lot of Missourian fans feel ostracized. It was set up in a way that they played into both states but moving out of Missouri does seem like a slap in the face and all the fans across the state who adopted them once the Rams left are gonna drop them.
People think this is a crazy take since they're not moving far but people don't understand the tribalism of sports. The same reason Kansas residents are so excited even though they're on the bill for it is the same reason Missourians are gonna turn from them.
Kansas alone cannot support an NFL team especially after pissing off half the fan base and their closest neighbor. I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if they relocate again in the next decade.
How any Missourians, at least in the STL area, continued to support the NFL by shifting allegiance to the Chiefs after their fuckery with Kroenke is beyond me.
It was a huge demonstration that these owners don't have any affinity towards the fandom only money. I certainly hope many Chiefs fans learn their lesson this time. Stop supporting this wealthy welfare queens. The state (Missouri and Kansas) is a fucking shambles and those resources can be way better spent then on a soon-to-be mediocre sports team.
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Well said!
You mean this season?
We got Mahomes until hes 36
Fuck the NFL
And Fuck the Hunts too.
It looks like Missourians hard-earned Taxdollars wasn't enough to buy their loyalty for more than a season. IMO Missouri would be better of with the Kansas City Welfare Queens and the "Hunt" that owns them.
Clark is just going wherever they value loyalty the most
Good for him. Because loyalty is SO IMPORTANT to a sports organization that trades humans like chattel.
Yea it was just an office reference, I do it anytime I see the word loyalty used lol
Fair Enough. I didn't get the reference, my bad.
Someone finally got the reference
I feel bad that you received so many downvotes for what is obviously a Dwight quote. I got a chuckle, at least.
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My man, read a few more comments before you drop your hot take. They had already cleared up that it was a reference to The Office. And it was an obvious joke regardless, because someone who’s happy to go wherever they “value loyalty the most” obviously isn’t demonstrating loyalty.
Be nice
Clark Hunt going wherever he can get the biggest check with no public vote. All those private jet flights for his prissy Lee’s Summit wife ain’t cheap
The number one way for billionaires to remain billionaires… spend someone else’s money.
Clar Kunt?
Former Jackson County resident. I voted no on extending sales tax increase for the stadiums last year. I literally just moved across the border into Kansas a month ago, so I guess I'll end up getting taxed for Clark's fancy new building anyway lol.
Just as they begin a downward slope as a shitty team again..how sad.
Sounds familiar doesn’t it ?
Go STL Rams!
Eagles fan here so I don't have a dog in this fight. Went to the Eagles/Chiefs game in September, and as someone who went to games at The Vet, Arrowhead was great for its age. Guessing some areas need renovation, but this is purely a money grab so they can host large-scale concerts in the cold weather months and a Super Bowl/Final Four. Feel bad for Chiefs fans in KCMO, but this is hilarious that Kansas is going to foot the bill for the new stadium when the team starts descending into mediocrity.
Suckers lol
$3 Billion?
For the Chiefs?
What?
Better remove that KC name too dont let that door hit ya on the way out, Plus I wanna give a big fuck you to all the Kroenke's and Hunt's out there and the NFL.
Overland Park Chiefs will be hilarious to see.
Thats where they all live anyway
They could change their name to The City Chiefs and be called the Kansas…City Chiefs.
Kansas City, Kansas exists and that’s where it’s going
Then Kansas Chiefs. Perfect
We call that fake ass Kansas city.
And only people from Missouri ever think of the a chiefs as a MO only team. I never once cared the stadium was in Missouri when I went there. Trust me, Kansans aren’t going to care if people from Missouri come to the stadium or not.
The thing is its not a Missouri's or Kansas' thing, it's the Hunt's and the Kroenke's of the world thing, if Kansas decides to say no (not saying they will) what would happen then, we would be welcoming the Salt Lake Chiefs next year. Its not about the teams its about the loyalty of the owners and unwillingness to spend money on things like stadiums like normal companies have to do. They just use the "it bring all the boys to the yard" money and act like its cause of them, no people would just spend the money elsewhere.
On top of that, cause i am bored, we spent 425 millions dollars in tax payer funds since 70's they haven't even covered that in taxes paid to the state, even including charities they donate to doesn't even scratch the surface.
They also keep saying thing about the businesses near the stadiums make money from them too, in KC that stadium was built in the middle of nowhere and still not much out there. It did not bring them to build there just have to commute or stay at a hotel now.
I love baseball, not so much football but I have the same stance w them as well, if you want us to front the bill, your output to the community needs to be the same or more. If the cardinals said pay for our stadium or we move, bye bye.
Oh no!
Anyways....
As a Jackson County, MO resident, it's time to share the love $$ (burden).
Please let this move happen while the UFL remains in existence. It would be hilarious if the Battlehawks were the best professional football team in Missouri. I mean, they are anyway, but this would solidify their claim.
Fuck the NFL, including the Chiefs.
As of like 3 months ago I would put the Battlehawks above the Chiefs
lol the battlehawks. That’s cute that you think that’s good football you’re watching
I didn't say "good football," sweetheart. I said "best professional football team in Missouri." Which, if the timing works out, will one day be true. Sorry your reading comprehension level is the way it is, little one.
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Paid for with major taxpayer bonds if the Kansas Legislature votes to approve them.
Oh well, that makes the Missouri Tigers Missouri’s true team.
ZOU
Exact response my 50 something dad gave haha, let's go Tigers! 🐅
Taxpayer funded stadiums, particularly football, are almost always a bad idea. It isn't like the NFL isn't turning a huge profit each year either. The 50% public funding level was too high that MO was putting in. 70% is just asinine.
We need to tax the mofo billionaires, not coddle them.
Maybe the Hunt family will stop spending so much money on Missouri Republicans now.
They can use their money to finally push Kobach into the governor’s mansion to ruin Kansas once and for all.
I wish there was a way to prevent them from using "Kansas City".
Just to be petty.
Well it’s going to Kansas City, Kansas…
like that Angels of Anaheim thing
They are going to be in Wyandotte? Thats KCK. Bonner Springs isnt KCK.
It’s literally within the city limits of Kansas City Kansas idk what else to tell you
Edwardsville and Bonner Springs are both in Wyandotte County, not just KCK.
But based on the rendering in the promotional video it's going here, which is indeed on the KCK side of I-70: https://maps.app.goo.gl/MFSWTuGtTvGXoki56
So instead of a Taco Bell across the street it will now be a cemetery across the street.
"Home of the Wyandotte CHIIEEEFFFSSS!" It's got a nice ring to it.
Don't you mean the winedope chiefs?
Do we know yet if the site is KCK, Bonner Springs, or Edwardsville? Just curious which they should be called going forward.
Dammit, I don't want to pay for that. What crap.
Hunt Family = billionaire welfare recipients of taxpayer $$... make it make sense.
Soooooo, public money is handed to these sports welfare queens - so the public can visit and pay hideous amounts for tickets, concessions, apparel….etc. sincerely, F-Off.
Plus 12K less seats so they can increase the average ticket cost for fans!
Honestly. Thanks for 20+ years of suffering then 3 Superbowl wins. Thanks for DT. Thanks for Priest Holmes and JC. Thanks for fun with Andy Pat and Kelce.
Bye. Might as well move to LA
Good riddance
Yea! Wasn't going to vote for more taxes for billionaires anyway.
I feel bad for Score Sports Bar & Grill.
Take the Royals next.
I hope that the Chiefs will automatically lose their status as market access partners for Missouri sportsbooks when they move.
I guess we'll have to add to the hashtag:
KROENKEandHUNTbothSUCK
I'm a Broncos fan, but I'm also a long time resident of St. Louis.
I'm frustrated for our state, but I'm glad MO won't be paying tax dollars for that greedy fuck. Arrowhead is my favorite NFL stadium and it isn't close. Fuck them.
All because they simply can’t pay for their own stadium. That’s all the people ask for.
Its your problem now, Sunshine State.
Florida is the Sunshine State.
Kansas is the Sunflower State.
Act like the ppl want this. Lol we pay shit tons in taxes and get nothing out of it. Our roads suck, schools suck, farming sucks. The rest of Kansas does not live in Kansas City Kansas.
They 100% expect this to kick off a new bidding war between the two states to see who will pay more of the $3 billion dollar new stadium.
This is very far from done and I’m sure the Hunt family is salivating over how much more they can squeeze out of tax payers as the two states fight over who can give them more money.
I’m personally fine with Johnson County taking over for these welfare queens. I can just as easily watch them lose from there as I can from Arrowhead, but I’m sure Kehoe has plans to pull as much funding from anywhere to keep them.
This is definitely over. They are moving to Kansas. MO dropped the ball if they wanted to keep them.
They’ll move in 2030, which is about when Mahomes career may or may not be over, so like most of Missouri prior to Mahomes we can all go back to ignoring them.
Home attendance for the chiefs has been consistent for over 2 decades
I hope Jackson County and Missouri continue to negotiate with the Chiefs, only to rug pull them in the end and put them in a position where then can be extorted for an exorbitant lease as a hold-over when Clark Hunt overplays his negotiating position.
Kansans may organize a go-fundme to sue the authorities involved in planning and zoning for this stadium. It happened with the speedway.
Buh bye
Good. And in twenty years when the Chiefs are looking for a new stadium, Missouri will get their turn again. And it can go back and forth as long as taxpayers continue to be the suckers they are.
When the owners give zero shits and no respect for the fan base by asking for tax dollars for a new stadium?? Don't let the doors hit ya in the ass packing your shit out the door.
Thank god! No more welfare for billionaires
They like being a bankrupt gov there
Can’t say that I ever bought into the current Hunt’s foolishness. More welfare for folks who “lovvvve this town.”
You can thank Jefferson City and the people of Jackson County
We are thanking them. Loudly.
Don’t spent my tax money on making billionaires richer.
We would rather bitch and moan
This is fine, bring on the drought!! Make sure the chiefs never win a Super Bowl again. Kansas deserves it for being the worst neighbor. Fuck KU 🖕🏽 🧨
Aw shucks!
So Missouri lost both former Superbowl champions. First the Rams (back early 2000s) and according to the rumors KC Chiefs.
Is there a lot of open land there that got bought up recently? As with all of these things, there is a scratch my back and I’ll scratch yours. Guessing developers will have a heyday with this. How sad
Look up legends in KCK. Buc-ee’s is already under construction next door too
General question for KC residents from a St. Louisian. Are there any backup plans to redevelop the area if both teams jump ship to Kansas? Or could arrowhead / Kaufman just sit vacant for an extended period of time?
It will definitely just sit vacant. There’s nothing in the immediate area now, and what is around it is either industrial areas or (sadly) run down housing.
It’s an industrial shithole that Jackson county has let rot for 70 years. Nothing can be built
Jackson county will end up on the hook to spend millions to demolish the old stadiums or simply let them rot. So one again the taxpayers on the hook to cover the cost of the stadiums for the billionaire owners. Can't imagine anything that would suddenly pop-up in that area that would need that much space. Perhaps it can return to farmland or nature that was there before they built the stadiums.
It will make a nice site for an Amazon data center
Fuck them.
This sub will have to change its name to The Bonner Springs Chiefs.
Just yet another reason why, for all its warts, college football is better.
Hopefully the citizens in kansas dont get a raw deal but looking at every other stadium they do this with, it aint looking good.
Will the chiefs have to pay a NFL relocation fee? They are moving to a new state…
I will be boycotting the chiefs in 2030 and beyond
I bet Wyandotte county was like hey, we love raising the taxes.
Way to go Missouri politicians. It takes some awesome leadership to lose a very profitable NFL franchise to your next door neighbor.
Eh, no to socialism. KS can give them a handout.
K bye
oh NO'S!!!
/s
Ew
We have a saying around here.
Good riddance.
Doesn’t relocation have to go through the NFL, since they are moving to a new state?
ITT: Missourians don't understand what STAR bonds are.
Meh I always thought football sucked anyways.
Meh, sure it's not great, but the people saying "it will be a MASSIVE hit to the KC economy" I think are probably wrong.
Buh-bye.
Did you see the trick they just pulled on Kansas taxpayers?
A SEVENTY PERCENT star bond is insane. Nobody in their right mind would agree to that. Very abnormal. They used that procedure so it wouldn't require a vote and they could get around the citizens knowing that if they actually were informed of what they would be paying ahead of time they would say no.
Kansas taxpayers are going to be fronting the money for this ("It'll pay itself off in 25 years") with no chance of recuperation for decades. Kansas people, you just got played SO bad.
Kanorado Chiefs has a nice ring to it.
Good riddance, wish they had moved out of the market completely.
Disgusting. Just put the money up yourself, Clark.
When will governments stop paying billionaires to do for them what they would do for themselves if they were unable to scare politicians into it?
Talk about corporate welfare….
And I love the Chiefs, but cannot stand the Hunt family. Or the DeWitts, for that matter.
Always nice to see the billionaires paying their fair share…oh wait. To be honest, fuck the hunt family. This will be my last year as a season ticket holder. I’m not cucking for the Chiefs billionaire owner’s get-richer agenda. Instead of showing them, I will just have to tell my kids about how cool arrowhead was when they’re grown. Raiders 2.0. Fuck the hunts. I hope they lose their ass on the whole deal in the long run. Lamar would be rolling in his grave.
I Love the Chiefs and am 100% if the State pays 100% of it ….
You think I don’t pay Tax’s and disagree in other areas where the money goes ?
Great leadership in this state. 2 NFL teams and their revenue gone in 10 years
The Cheifs are dead to me, go Bears
Starting today I will not support the chiefs or spend money in Kansas. Missourians can make them regret their choice. It's our dollars that the Hunts and STAR bonds are counting on. Send them a message.
Good work trumpsters
What is it about Kansas City that makes entire states try to compete with us or take credit for things we're known for?
First Texas with BBQ and now Kansas with football. The state of Missouri even claims our wins constantly despite actively working against the function of the city at nearly every possible impasse.
Not even sure what you mean? Are you implying BBQ was invented in KC? I've never heard KC-style BBQ attributed to anywhere in Texas.
But as a St. Louisan, I agree that this state fucking sucks. Jefferson City doesn't like to do anything to support KC/STL but gladly takes the tax dollars that support the state and whatever other accolades the cities get.
KC style BBQ was invented in Kansas City, obviously, and we also functionally invented burnt ends and popularized them. Texans claim basically all brisket as their own, along with multiple indications that they "invented pit BBQ" or "slow and low" styles that have complicated origins that passed through much of the midwest and the south.
Overall though, I'm more talking about how the entire state of Texas will claim to have superior BBQ to Kansas City and will then drown out any argument to the contrary with sheer numbers of people/comments. KC hosts the "World Series of BBQ" every year, so it's not uncommon to hear this kind of claim with frequency from Texas teams.
To my previous post's point, it's similar to how the entire state of Kansas has more resources at their disposal than Kansas City alone and can always outbid/outincentive the city because they have the whole state's resources available to them.
St. Louis doesn’t claim anything of KCMO. It’s the other way around.
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You going to ask me what high school I went to next? lol
I have no idea what you're talking about. I didn't mention St. Louis at all, lol.
BYE..cheaper and warmer to watch the games at home or a sports bar anyway.
The dome will be temperature controlled
Not cheaper.
What does this mean for all the tax payers money our legislators have given them?
Good - Missourians don't have to socialize them anymore.
Kansas City is a cool city, but it lacks culture and interesting attractions to do because everything there revolves around sports. Any development is good development obviously… but I think it is a manifestation of Kansas City's bigger identity crisis that is preventing it from becoming a truly interesting place for outsiders to visit. Even the newer streetcar line that they are wire testing as we speak only exists to go to a new soccer stadium and some riff raff private equity apartment complexes. It's why even with St. Louis's crime reputation going heavily against it, it's still much more culturally rich and interesting place.
What makes me laugh too is they are going to build (in effect) a duplicate of this stadium with an added dome, and it's going to be way outside of town off of some suburb-pandering auxiliary interstate that is an hour from anything interesting… just like how the existing stadium is now. Oh cool… the families can go visit Hu-Hot or Red Robin before the big game! What a wasteful and stupid world we live in.
This is very true but you gonna get downvoted. STL has way more history and culture and it’s not close. KC is highway heaven.
Leave your HOA, KCMO has culture lmaooo
I live in Central West End. I am a fan of Kansas City though and their jazz bars - see my other reply to ace_11325.
Perhaps people outside of Kansas City think everything revolves around sports (though that’s not even very accurate, with only one good team in the big 4 sports), but that’s certainly not the view of people IN Kansas City. We have plenty of culture, as long as you are open to looking.
Also, nothing here is an hour from anything. Arrowhead is about 10-15 minutes from downtown. It’s 20-30 from basically everywhere else in the metro. I can be there in 15 from my house. The proposed site is much further for me…though still only about 40 minutes because I have to go all the way across the metro. And it’s not like there’s nothing there. KCK has exploded over the last 10-15 years. I can think of worse things to do than go eat before a game.
I don't think I expressed my original comment well. My main gripe is that all of its recent expansions all have a primary focus on sports only. I'm not saying Kansas City has no culture at all - but if you're going to tell me that it does have some regionally-acknowledged, renowned culture then you are being dishonest.
The mere controversy of this sports stadium, which has been going on for years now, is pretty evident
We have quite a large and thriving arts scene here. People aren’t going to normally fly o to town to see those performances, but that’s true of any city other than Chicago and NY.
What types of culture are you looking for?
What exactly does this mean?
If you have to ask this question then you’re just taking out of your ass.
Answer the question. What exactly does that mean? Give a concrete answer.
We have the Kansas City ballet, Kansas City symphony, 5 equity theatres, multiple community theatres, including the largest in the country. A world class conservatory for instrumental, vocal and dance. The Nelson Atkins museum is very well curated. Plus we have the crossroads arts district with art galleries and smaller theatres.
I.e., things everywhere else has.
Having things other cities have is not a lack of culture. Having a ballet doesn’t mean the ballet is the same as another city. Having equity theatres premiering new works means they are new, unique shows. Of course, other cities have premiers, but not the same premiers.
Curious what your city has that others don’t
Hope butker takes his friend haulin hallway hawley with him
Wack.
DOWNVOTE EVERYONE THAT’S UPSET ABOUT THIS