You can move it to the very right of all the apps practically hiding it and secondly it is „just“ an app, meaning if you don’t use it, it doesn’t get your data or am I missing something.
I understand the outcry that LG just force installs an app, but don’t they do this all the time?
At this point it really seems like they want to please investors by making up a whole lot of ai users out of thin air when it's counting people just turning on their tv. I still don't get how this will eventually turn a profit for microsoft, is the plan to trick people into using it and then ask them to pay a subscription?
Okay so, you want companies to control what software is allowed on the devices that you paid money for? Okay, message heard loud and clear: You will never have any freedom in this area again. You'll install apps and there will be a secret network for companies to bid on "automatic uninstalls" and the same already exists for "malware style forced app installs" as we can see.
I wonder how much Microsoft paid to have their software installed on people's devices "malware style?"
Would you outbid them to have control over your own devices?
Think about how ultra lazy and spoiled big tech is?
They can't even be bothered to market their products anymore? They're just going to force their scam tech on people's devices?
So, everybody else is suppose to spend all of this money marketing and advertising their brand to generate users for their product, but not big tech. They ram their scam tech in our faces like it's malware.
Yeah exactly. Why the heck are they ramming scam tech on to our devices? So, that's "how their operating system business works?" They need to make extremely serious changes at the organization to avoid the bankruptcy they are headed directly towards. There is a mega serious disconnect with what that company is doing and what their customers are expecting and when they do eventually go under, that will for certain be the reason: "Not meeting customer expectations," aka they scammed their customers.
They keep looking at everything besides the most important thing, so they are doomed. It's guaranteed failure ahead if they can not get their company turned around and headed back into the correct direction.
Its a fucking app - If you dont want it, dont fucking launch it. Its not magically sitting there spying on you and your family.
That's... Not how apps work. You don't get to decide when an app launches unless you are the root of the OS.
For what the user knows and can feasibly know, the app may launch in the background without any visible trace. Almost every app running in your smartphone and smart tv are background running apps that weren't opened by you, but by your operating system. That's why you can get notifications and updates even without touching the device.
Its not magically sitting there spying on you and your family
you know that because you trust them? If they change their minds and starts spying, do you think they'd tell you? Even if they have all the intentions of making it not spy and be perfect, what would happen if some overworked engineer slip up and make a mistake and created a bug that cause your app to start misbehaving? Why take on any of that risk if you just have a way to delete it?
I know that because they are the worlds largest security company, with the largest amount of legal regulations and compliance overheard and spend a billion a year safeguarding user security. Not some friggin Russian bot farm.
Ni there are not - 2 billion devices get updates from Microsoft every 4 weeks - 99.9% of those have zero issues.
Windows has NEVER been healthier and more secure. Any previous decade was massively more risky for users - Whether it was the dozens of Windows versions all unpatched, the aimless way in which software got tested and deployed, the crazy way we used to simply install software we found on the internet.
We have gone from PCs which crashes and blue screened constantly and about 50% of devices being vulnerable to simple attacks, machines needing rebuilding every few months - to now. Now my PC has been working for a decade and is running faster and more securely and more consistently now than the day I built it.
I have not faced a crash that wasnt a failed bit of hardware for over a decade.
I have been working in IT managing hundreds of thousands of PCs and I can tell you - there has never been a cleaner, more secure, safer operating system than the way Windows is right now.
Of course they find fucking security issues, that because unlike the past, they actually spend millions looking for them.
You can probably run pi hole and disable it at the dns level however most people probably won't know how to do that.
You have to redirect all 53 port trafic to yours pihole. Because TV have often hardcoded DNS addresses.
And even then, TV can have hardcoded IP adresses or even make some sort of tunnel :)
Of course not. That's why their evil scheme will work. They're just going to ram it into their TVs.
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Now you’re a prospective customer
Now you’re a resource they can mine for data
Its about data collection.
Cuz they've admitted themselves that no one wants to use it. Gotta fool the investors somehow.
I disconnected my Samsung smart tv from the internet a few years back. TV usage is so much more enjoyable now.
What does your TV do with internet? My Samsung Q60T does nothing, but if I do not use it with my PS4, PC, or WiiU, I use it (often) for YouTube.
lots of people use their TV for subscription-based media: Netflix, Hulu, etc
MarvinStolehouse obviously doesn't.
That you can also access by connecting a pc to the tv
Yes, I'm aware, and my set up is a lot more complicated than that. I'm not normal people and that's why I don't use the TV apps. Normal people do.
Shows me ads.
fuck off with this garbage microsoft. no one wants this
Disable internet on your smart TV. Reset it to factory settings and then never configure wifi again.
Use an external streaming device like a Roku, Fire TV, Apple TV, etc.
You can move it to the very right of all the apps practically hiding it and secondly it is „just“ an app, meaning if you don’t use it, it doesn’t get your data or am I missing something.
I understand the outcry that LG just force installs an app, but don’t they do this all the time?
At this point it really seems like they want to please investors by making up a whole lot of ai users out of thin air when it's counting people just turning on their tv. I still don't get how this will eventually turn a profit for microsoft, is the plan to trick people into using it and then ask them to pay a subscription?
All the better reason to ignore the “smart” part of TVs and build a small machine as a media server instead. Easy to control and avoid crap like this.
Is it free?
And then I block its command and control urls on my firewall
https://ccb.belgium.be/advisories/warning-critical-vulnerabilities-lg-webos-television-software-patch-immediately
MS loves to destroy its own product lol
Well, if they allow ChatGPT and Gemini to be installed from the App Store , then it makes sense.
If they don’t, maybe we need to ask EU about this ? Don’t expect the US to protect consumer choice and consumers choice to alternatives.
Never wanted to use the smart part of LG TV and that certainly doesn't make me feel like giving it a try.
Never buying an LG tv or monitor ever again
Only valid response to this madness
Whats ridiculous is the insane hand wringing from people like you.
Its a fucking app - If you dont want it, dont fucking launch it. Its not magically sitting there spying on you and your family.
Okay so, you want companies to control what software is allowed on the devices that you paid money for? Okay, message heard loud and clear: You will never have any freedom in this area again. You'll install apps and there will be a secret network for companies to bid on "automatic uninstalls" and the same already exists for "malware style forced app installs" as we can see.
I wonder how much Microsoft paid to have their software installed on people's devices "malware style?"
Would you outbid them to have control over your own devices?
How much is your freedom worth to you?
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Think about how ultra lazy and spoiled big tech is?
They can't even be bothered to market their products anymore? They're just going to force their scam tech on people's devices?
So, everybody else is suppose to spend all of this money marketing and advertising their brand to generate users for their product, but not big tech. They ram their scam tech in our faces like it's malware.
you are the spoiled one, if you are able to take such things for granted
Oh grow up - Microsoft are an operating system company. You dont own anything except a license to use.
Yeah exactly. Why the heck are they ramming scam tech on to our devices? So, that's "how their operating system business works?" They need to make extremely serious changes at the organization to avoid the bankruptcy they are headed directly towards. There is a mega serious disconnect with what that company is doing and what their customers are expecting and when they do eventually go under, that will for certain be the reason: "Not meeting customer expectations," aka they scammed their customers.
They keep looking at everything besides the most important thing, so they are doomed. It's guaranteed failure ahead if they can not get their company turned around and headed back into the correct direction.
That's... Not how apps work. You don't get to decide when an app launches unless you are the root of the OS.
For what the user knows and can feasibly know, the app may launch in the background without any visible trace. Almost every app running in your smartphone and smart tv are background running apps that weren't opened by you, but by your operating system. That's why you can get notifications and updates even without touching the device.
Nobody should even have the thought of “let’s put an ai chat bot on a tv” in the first place
you know that because you trust them? If they change their minds and starts spying, do you think they'd tell you? Even if they have all the intentions of making it not spy and be perfect, what would happen if some overworked engineer slip up and make a mistake and created a bug that cause your app to start misbehaving? Why take on any of that risk if you just have a way to delete it?
I know that because they are the worlds largest security company, with the largest amount of legal regulations and compliance overheard and spend a billion a year safeguarding user security. Not some friggin Russian bot farm.
they spend billions and there's still serious security issues every fucking day. The amount of security problems they face is endless.
Ni there are not - 2 billion devices get updates from Microsoft every 4 weeks - 99.9% of those have zero issues.
Windows has NEVER been healthier and more secure. Any previous decade was massively more risky for users - Whether it was the dozens of Windows versions all unpatched, the aimless way in which software got tested and deployed, the crazy way we used to simply install software we found on the internet.
We have gone from PCs which crashes and blue screened constantly and about 50% of devices being vulnerable to simple attacks, machines needing rebuilding every few months - to now. Now my PC has been working for a decade and is running faster and more securely and more consistently now than the day I built it.
I have not faced a crash that wasnt a failed bit of hardware for over a decade.
I have been working in IT managing hundreds of thousands of PCs and I can tell you - there has never been a cleaner, more secure, safer operating system than the way Windows is right now.
Of course they find fucking security issues, that because unlike the past, they actually spend millions looking for them.
Finding and fixing issues is good.
Pretending its worse than it is - is not.
https://ccb.belgium.be/advisories/warning-critical-vulnerabilities-lg-webos-television-software-patch-immediately
I guess it's good I've been holding off updating my TV.