I still hope they'll release a 16 or even 20 points mod that makes them able to go automatically, even if they only deal 75% or even 50% of the damage.
I wish there was a gear item (don't say specters) that could temporarily have your Warframe autopilot when you leave it, like an npc operator taking over to cover for you for a little bit.
Would also be the solution for voidrigs, give us a gear item like with archguns, it's essentially the same thing, especially with Tauron strikes now I feel like it could somewhat make sense for the operator to summon one temporarily. Now that they remember that power they can tweak it and make it work for other purposes.
I don't even think you need to discourage overuse, I mean beside being in your necramech when do you extensively leave your Warframe?
Unless they make necramech available in more missions there'd be no reason to "overuse" your Warframe being on autopilot, all it would do is help make operator more fun to play and have more Warframe buffs available to them. It would work with the same AI as specters so you could make them stay in one place if needed.
If specters aren't broken I don't see why umbra-like AI would be, they functionally work the same with a few exceptions. It wouldn't make specters obsolete either, they just add on top of it, except your own Warframe being controlled would use mods just like Umbra.
It is possible. The system tend to put players after the new war with other player after the new war and vice versa. But if you get a mission/bounty rhat can be done by players b4 the NW and there’s no other match you are put with them in the pre new war version of the open worlds.
Also if you team up with pre new war players b4 going to the open worlds and then go there together you are loaded with them in the pre NW version.
Necramechs are my favorite say to play Conjunction Survival, or just the Railjack Corpus Survival missions. Yeah, it's kinda mindless to sit in a corner and shoot the explosive autocannon, but better than casting warframe abilities only for a nullifer to come and wreck my battle plan.
Voidrig is objectively better, and by far, but only because the arqebex is ludicrously overpowered and turns everything into a red mist. You don't need to heal it everything that could have damaged you is atomized as soon as you see it
But the bonewidow is more fun: it's got the better survivability and building for the sword is a ton of fun
Remember the hidden room where you got a mech during Heart of Deimos?? Necraloid chills there and sells blueprints for both mechs, a couple weapons and other small stuff
Second Dream is still one of the Early-Middle Missions, is when you get the Operator as a fifth ability, then you have War Within (i think is the name on english) where you unlock the Operator as the "second character" we know.
Exactly 2 mission types. Orphix and profit taker. In both cases they're used as stationary summoned guns because they're sluggish and whatever otherwise
Yes, they were. They were before Warframes, actually. Father tells us that they were the original super weapon of the Orokin, but then the Helminth was figured out by Ballas and they became useless for some time. Then the Warframes started going insane, and necramechs were brought back into play to some extent. Then the Tenno were recovered from the Zariman and necramechs were forgotten once again since the more agile and Warframes were able to be used again.
I don’t think I would call them sluggish. With the right mods I can easily keep up with regular frames, even in eta and orphix. They just require some different movement knowledge to understand how to move around in them quickly.
Just solo tricap'd for the first time with it. Forgot to change setups and had hush on instead of amalgam serration. It took 30mins, but i was also using Zenurik instead of madurai. The limbs wile t down in around 1 second.
Dante: Necra this, Necra that... Necra please! One time I heared Bonewidow say "Can a Necra borrow an orokin reactor". And my first thought wasn't "Oh my god, he said it. The N word!". It was "Now how is a necra ganna borrow an orokin reactor? Necra is you ganna give it back?!"
Can you be 12 ft tall, with some poor sod twitching impaled on you, as you drain their life to boost yours, while you whale on people with a sword the size of a surfboard ? Didn't think so :D
Warframes and regular weapons are easily built to be more powerful than Necramechs, to be sure, because they just have more toys in Arcanes, Shards and mods that the mecha don't have access to.
Even if DE wanted to rein those in somewhat, the louder voices in the playerbase would melt down online , review bomb and send death threats (not hyperbole.. they have), so Necramechs were always doomed to be powercrept.
Which leaves 'because they are cool!' , for those that find them cool. I do, so that's Necrawhy I use them :D
Or you can be a gun turret I guess, with Voidrig. I prefer Bonewidow ;)
And please let us use them in the Perita missions. It would...be..awesome!!
Depends on the frame. I regularly use my Mech in Elite Archimedea because I went all in on investment(6 Forma in Voidrig and Bonewidow). So they are very useful tools to whip out for certain missions.
Go back to Deimos and go talk to the necraloid in the necralisk. Do Deimos vault bounties from mother to earn resources and standing to buy from necraloid and build the necramech.
They should really just let you summon it in loid's murmur basement all the time, rather than finding having to find a computer and hack it before it spawns somewhere else
Yeah, I don't even bother, I don't get why it's so weird. I did the work to get it, it's mine, why couldn't I just summon it? Why I gotta do a mini challenge?
I think they kinda suffered from a lack of direction. Like, yeah, it's cool from a story perspective: "So, the enemy of the Tenno have found a way to deny them the use of their Warframe. So, let's revive a really old piece of tech that the enemy won't expect and can't manipulate!"
Gameplay, though? Not enough missions call for it. And on the missions where they're necessary, they're far too weak. It doesn't help that you can equip 20 mods if none of them are anywhere near easy enough to acquire or strong enough to justify the grind. They added a bunch of mods to a vendor, and they're still a royal pain.
I think one way they could rectify a lot of these issues- not just with Necramechs, but Archwing as well, guns and melee -is by just adding corrupted mods for them. Add corrupted Necramech mods to the derelict vaults and you'd see people use them a bit more, even if it's marginal. Because me, personally? I hate that the Voidrig's main survival tool's duration and strength are this low even with relevant mods. Storm Shroud is only as useful as its duration, because the time it takes to build your secondary health bar is the same amount of time it'll take the enemy to shred it. It has to have a decent multiplier to give you any breathing room. If I can trade efficiency for duration or strength, I'll be fine. The energy pool for necramechs is easy enough to manage if I can just get it to stay in a fight past level 50.
I dont mind the necromech being used in limited areas, we just need more areas. Bonewidow needs a big buff, and let's even make her stronger than voidrig. We also need a 3rd necromech who is support based for buffing the team, then that'd cover Gun, melee, and support. It'd be great to see a large heal like trinity, some motes like wisp, and maybe some ammo generation.
Make the support necromech be gas themed ffs. Gas skull mote would be sick af for a necromech. Gas universal ammo for teammates, let's go.
The main advantage of it over summoning your heavy gun is there’s no ammo for the Necramech and the “reload” is basically non existent. Theres also no such thing as self stagger so you don’t need to pay the Prime sure footed tax.
I love necramechs for being full on giant robots.... Thoe the day we get a Warframe that becomes a necramechs is probably the day I never touch the base ones again...
To quote Ordis: "Gun...gun...GUNNN!!!"
Hmmm... necramech has gun for you, operator
They are strong but really not strong enough to justify them being locked to just 3 or so missions. DE it's been 5 years let them go
Let me show true terror to the scaldra with the equivalent of a desecrated corpse powering a 4M tall robot
Aoi mentions she sees us stomping around in one. Must have been when we were using the Vintage Tech peely pix.
Omg wait Necramechs are just 40k Dreadnoughts
Apparently they were even designed by a guest/former Warhammer 40k artist, too.
Even in death I still serve
Farm*
The grind never stops
the ferrite farm awaits thee
The fields of argon stand ready for harvest.
Debt*
Of course they were. It screams Warhammer.
Yep. But dedicated to Khorn. Thus CornMechs.
MECH VS TANK!!!!
https://i.redd.it/ifkwxzccxcag1.gif
RULES OF NATUUURREE >:O
I still hope they'll release a 16 or even 20 points mod that makes them able to go automatically, even if they only deal 75% or even 50% of the damage.
Get in the Necromech, Umbra, or the Operator will have to do it again.
The humble Railjack:
Gotta say, it's real fun zapping my Necramech into a hapless Corpus cruiser
You get a doom robot of death ! And then you put it into a BIGGER DOOM ROBOT OF DEATH !!! WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT !!!!
Actually you have to leave the smaller one to get into the bigger one
If you have Umbra, he'll follow you around like a little bodyguard lol
I wish there was a gear item (don't say specters) that could temporarily have your Warframe autopilot when you leave it, like an npc operator taking over to cover for you for a little bit. Would also be the solution for voidrigs, give us a gear item like with archguns, it's essentially the same thing, especially with Tauron strikes now I feel like it could somewhat make sense for the operator to summon one temporarily. Now that they remember that power they can tweak it and make it work for other purposes.
That would be dope. Maybe a device that turns any frame Umbra-like for a certain time, but give it a high resource cost to discourage overuse.
I don't even think you need to discourage overuse, I mean beside being in your necramech when do you extensively leave your Warframe? Unless they make necramech available in more missions there'd be no reason to "overuse" your Warframe being on autopilot, all it would do is help make operator more fun to play and have more Warframe buffs available to them. It would work with the same AI as specters so you could make them stay in one place if needed.
If specters aren't broken I don't see why umbra-like AI would be, they functionally work the same with a few exceptions. It wouldn't make specters obsolete either, they just add on top of it, except your own Warframe being controlled would use mods just like Umbra.
Happy cake day!
Necramechs are callable loadout, useful if you get a bad EDA/ETA loadout
Voidrig is also a great portable turret
Void rig is fine but I'd love buffs to bonewidow so it can actually compete with the VR
As with so many other content islands, Deimos benefits from investment. Not much else.
It is kinda fun to break it out on the plains to just "haha Arqubex go brrrrrrt" sometimes though.
i hunt doma thumpers with mine :)
What's your preferred method?
Flaunt it around newbies on POE
Can you still get matched with newer players on Plains of Eidolon/Orb Vallis after doing The New War?
Since, y'know, the landscape(s) changed during the quest.
Punch me if somebody answers this question, because I want to know now too
It is possible. The system tend to put players after the new war with other player after the new war and vice versa. But if you get a mission/bounty rhat can be done by players b4 the NW and there’s no other match you are put with them in the pre new war version of the open worlds.
Also if you team up with pre new war players b4 going to the open worlds and then go there together you are loaded with them in the pre NW version.
I've seen a couple of them, but they may have been with friends who were teaching them. I'm not sure.
Necramechs are my favorite say to play Conjunction Survival, or just the Railjack Corpus Survival missions. Yeah, it's kinda mindless to sit in a corner and shoot the explosive autocannon, but better than casting warframe abilities only for a nullifer to come and wreck my battle plan.
Exists to be compared to Bonewidow
Yeah, because Voidrig's the best
Perhaps. I'd rather have buttons that actually do something than cosplay an AA turret
I expected bonewidow to use archmelee instead of guns
Well, her 4 does exactly that. And the blade is pretty loaded compared to other archmelees (plus you get a projectile on heavy attack)
I know, i just expected some love to archmelee
I grabbed Bonewidow instead of Voidrig cause beeg mecha Khopesh
I fw the bonewidow drip though.
Voidrig is objectively better, and by far, but only because the arqebex is ludicrously overpowered and turns everything into a red mist. You don't need to heal it everything that could have damaged you is atomized as soon as you see it
But the bonewidow is more fun: it's got the better survivability and building for the sword is a ton of fun
To be fair, Bonewidow does have its uses. I'd run VR for Defense; BW for extermination.
Ok Mr subpar archmelee, I’ll keep my subpar archgun tyvm
Tbh I'm glad there is a choice at all
How do you get the Bonewidow without Plat?
talk to necraloid in the necralisk, he has his own little syndicate in there with bonewidow and some necramech guns to get.
Remember the hidden room where you got a mech during Heart of Deimos?? Necraloid chills there and sells blueprints for both mechs, a couple weapons and other small stuff
Lot and lot of vault runs
Bro can't even read wiki
Is like your Warframe, but your build cant keep up so you bring the big guns to play.
Exept most builds outpower the necramech
It depends, not all players are capable yet to go Steel Path, so the Necramech is still a great help.
Isn't the necramech somewhat of a later game thing? (I got it when they came out so i cannot relate well to newer tenno).
They’re at Deimos which is early if I remember right. I finished the star chart except for stuff locked behind quests.
you still need to do second dream to get necramechs
Ngl I don’t remember what that is. I basically did every quest in like 2 days just so I could get back to where I was pre quests.
Second Dream is still one of the Early-Middle Missions, is when you get the Operator as a fifth ability, then you have War Within (i think is the name on english) where you unlock the Operator as the "second character" we know.
Oh yeah you basically get operator as like the wisp 4th ability right? That was short lived.
Yes, and the next mission is when you properly get control of the operator, thats why most forgot about it.
Not really, is around Early-Middle game, it just got delayed because of all the other new missions for begginers that were added on these years.
Cool in concept but limited to only like a few missoon types.
Exactly 2 mission types. Orphix and profit taker. In both cases they're used as stationary summoned guns because they're sluggish and whatever otherwise
albretcht labs, open world missions, conjunction survival
theres a bit few more places thst lets us use necramechs
sad we couldnt use necramechs in the memory of war missions thoo
Lore masters, I beckon ye, have necramechs been a thing at the point of Old Peace?
Yes, they were. They were before Warframes, actually. Father tells us that they were the original super weapon of the Orokin, but then the Helminth was figured out by Ballas and they became useless for some time. Then the Warframes started going insane, and necramechs were brought back into play to some extent. Then the Tenno were recovered from the Zariman and necramechs were forgotten once again since the more agile and Warframes were able to be used again.
Useful in ETA since they have infinite heavy weapon ammo and aren't totally bad.
You can use mechs there. They're not useful there, hence I didn't include them
I don’t think I would call them sluggish. With the right mods I can easily keep up with regular frames, even in eta and orphix. They just require some different movement knowledge to understand how to move around in them quickly.
Railjack
It lets you level your Archgun without having to install a Gravimag or (ugh...) play Archwing missions.
Taker?
It pops its 4 to do as much damage as a well built weapon, but its only usable in content that doesnt really need that much oomph
A necramech is a machine that turns too much time into too little MR points
Tbh I wish we could just use them in any map, sure you might get stuck sometimes but you can just exit the mech
Volt and Wisp join the squad:
"sometimes"
Arqebex to kill eidolon maybe
Powercrept by operator finger blaster
We’ve really gone full circle haven’t we?
And torid incarnon
You cannot be serious. Torid is one of the worst weapons for Eidolons
I've been using it against them and it has been evaporating them
That's not really mathematically possible. At least, not for it to be better than Voidrig
Just solo tricap'd for the first time with it. Forgot to change setups and had hush on instead of amalgam serration. It took 30mins, but i was also using Zenurik instead of madurai. The limbs wile t down in around 1 second.
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Heres the rhino build i used
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Dante: Necra this, Necra that... Necra please! One time I heared Bonewidow say "Can a Necra borrow an orokin reactor". And my first thought wasn't "Oh my god, he said it. The N word!". It was "Now how is a necra ganna borrow an orokin reactor? Necra is you ganna give it back?!"
Am I the only person who wants more necramechs?
i honestly thought whispers in the wall will get us a new necramech since it brought a new faction literally called necramech, but nothing 😢
Exalted necramech warframe when
Can you be 12 ft tall, with some poor sod twitching impaled on you, as you drain their life to boost yours, while you whale on people with a sword the size of a surfboard ? Didn't think so :D
Warframes and regular weapons are easily built to be more powerful than Necramechs, to be sure, because they just have more toys in Arcanes, Shards and mods that the mecha don't have access to.
Even if DE wanted to rein those in somewhat, the louder voices in the playerbase would melt down online , review bomb and send death threats (not hyperbole.. they have), so Necramechs were always doomed to be powercrept.
Which leaves 'because they are cool!' , for those that find them cool. I do, so that's Necrawhy I use them :D
Or you can be a gun turret I guess, with Voidrig. I prefer Bonewidow ;)
And please let us use them in the Perita missions. It would...be..awesome!!
DE please let me use my war mech for war
I've recently finished my build.
It's VERY worth investing into
In what sense ? You deal more damage than a frame?
I have very little in the way of archgun/necramech mods and his 4 still hits in aoe for 400k per shot.
'better than a frame'? Idunno that's dependent on a lot of things, but I would rather play a necramech than half the frames I own
Depends on the frame. I regularly use my Mech in Elite Archimedea because I went all in on investment(6 Forma in Voidrig and Bonewidow). So they are very useful tools to whip out for certain missions.
Because if you get one you get an archwing weapon that doesnt suck, at least for me, i didnt like the archwing weapons and farming them took too long
I fucking adore these things. I have yet to find anything its 4th cant one shot including eidolons
If I was allowed more freedom to use my Necramech I WOULD
counter question: necrawhere?
One shots eidos
Levels archguns quickly
Farms aura
We all love it, its the thing we use to clear cambion drift obelisks and nothing else
Which one is better, necramech or bone widow? I've hesitated to build the necramech bc of bone widow but idk which is worth making.
Meta wise, definitely voidrig. Its 4 is legitimately good. However, bonewidow has much more aura.
And how would one build the voidrig? I just unlocked old peace so I'm pretty new.
Go back to Deimos and go talk to the necraloid in the necralisk. Do Deimos vault bounties from mother to earn resources and standing to buy from necraloid and build the necramech.
Thanks, but one last question if I may: what mods should I go for with it? And should I go for high crit chance/damage or status?
For 3 minutes of carnage to shake things up every once in a while when grinding out Conjunction Survival.
I basically never play missions where I can use it, so I legit forgot about necramechs.
They should really just let you summon it in loid's murmur basement all the time, rather than finding having to find a computer and hack it before it spawns somewhere else
Yeah, I don't even bother, I don't get why it's so weird. I did the work to get it, it's mine, why couldn't I just summon it? Why I gotta do a mini challenge?
Arquebex has saved me on EDA ETA more than once it's a powerhouse built well
Mausolon well build covers bad weapon weeks too
I love mine
Fun anti air in open world
From my experience, i use it and only the 4th ability is worth it in SP until its destroyed within 15 seconds
I feel that if change warframes for necramechs on the cónclave both things would benefit greatly
Or that they let us use the necramech in 1999 I just want more content to feel that my effort on getting the necramech wasn’t on vain 😞
I just want a new Necramech, and to be allowed to use them in any mission.
these would be so great if they redesign underwater missions to be nechramecs instead of archwings, deepsea diving kinda vibe
3 words
Prepare for titanfall
I think they kinda suffered from a lack of direction. Like, yeah, it's cool from a story perspective: "So, the enemy of the Tenno have found a way to deny them the use of their Warframe. So, let's revive a really old piece of tech that the enemy won't expect and can't manipulate!"
Gameplay, though? Not enough missions call for it. And on the missions where they're necessary, they're far too weak. It doesn't help that you can equip 20 mods if none of them are anywhere near easy enough to acquire or strong enough to justify the grind. They added a bunch of mods to a vendor, and they're still a royal pain.
I think one way they could rectify a lot of these issues- not just with Necramechs, but Archwing as well, guns and melee -is by just adding corrupted mods for them. Add corrupted Necramech mods to the derelict vaults and you'd see people use them a bit more, even if it's marginal. Because me, personally? I hate that the Voidrig's main survival tool's duration and strength are this low even with relevant mods. Storm Shroud is only as useful as its duration, because the time it takes to build your secondary health bar is the same amount of time it'll take the enemy to shred it. It has to have a decent multiplier to give you any breathing room. If I can trade efficiency for duration or strength, I'll be fine. The energy pool for necramechs is easy enough to manage if I can just get it to stay in a fight past level 50.
I dont mind the necromech being used in limited areas, we just need more areas. Bonewidow needs a big buff, and let's even make her stronger than voidrig. We also need a 3rd necromech who is support based for buffing the team, then that'd cover Gun, melee, and support. It'd be great to see a large heal like trinity, some motes like wisp, and maybe some ammo generation.
Make the support necromech be gas themed ffs. Gas skull mote would be sick af for a necromech. Gas universal ammo for teammates, let's go.
So starting players have a decent early option for firepower & defense I guess (good for bounties and railjack)
It does lose some utility once you unlock the possibility to use your archgun with a warframe or start min maxing your mods, but that takes time
The main advantage of it over summoning your heavy gun is there’s no ammo for the Necramech and the “reload” is basically non existent. Theres also no such thing as self stagger so you don’t need to pay the Prime sure footed tax.
That's true, I didn't consider that
Comes with Mausolon, the best archgun
Necra-Meh. Especially given how many resources and time it require to max out.
Big gun big number
Necramech more like Arqubex because what other reason am I using them?
Giving us some Nora rep time to time. It's ain't much but it's honest work.
vallis orbs
To make open world bounties ez
More damage than you'll ever do is what he do
We need a merge of Railjack and necromech
30 mastery levels, thats it
He kills eidolons :)
Kill
To press 4
Free Mausolon
It's the best way to hunt eidolons without making a specific hunting build
I love necramechs for being full on giant robots.... Thoe the day we get a Warframe that becomes a necramechs is probably the day I never touch the base ones again...
Plagie star is the first time i used it outside of quests
Beep boop, big gun!
I’m pretty sure you can use them in most missions since I’ve used them in standard grineer ones in the ships
a lot of damage that's what
always love having someone with a built mech in my bounties/EDA
They need more mods, there are only so many builds and none of them are strong enough
Two guns strapped to a coffin.
I just think we need a necramech exclusive game mode
and since time travel is a thing we could go back to when necramechs were used to fight off the infestation and sentients
I'd think it'd be fun and they could give us more necramech mods and maybe give them arcanes?
also considering there very dumb in lore I think it would be funny seeing them mess up and make mistakes
I have never truly stress tested it, but I am pretty sure my Necramech build is invincible.
His best, and it's pretty frickin great
He makes me invincible, when I blast my lich. I like that very much
Giant sword or giant mortar and bigger gun for both
I don't like em, they're goofy. I just wanna play my Guyver sim
Play your guyver sim while I waste entire hallways with my blappy mech