We got a movie explaining Celestials and their Eternals, the Egyptian Gods and their Avatars, Thor, the Asgaurdians, the council of Gods, and a GOD KILLING MANIAC.
Anyone else feel it's weird they didn't try to tie them in with each other? This to me would've been the most natural setup for a movie since endgame, but it just...didn't happen.

Maybe they shouldn’t make a movie that deeply explores the gods. And only reference them and their relationship to the universe. That way the gods can remain mysterious and therefore beyond real comprehension. Giving them a powerful impact
Done right I think it could balance it well. Give us some answers, but also new lore that leaves us with even more questions
It actually is weird the things you named weren’t tied together and even weirder to me on a personal level that i never even considered that for myself
The funny thing is that Bast (Wakandan/Egyptian god), Chaak (Talokan god), and some of the Celestials did show up in Omnipotence City in L&T, but their only role in the film was literally just a cameo appearance in Zeus's audience
Since I’ve only seen the movie once and that was in theatres, so I’m now wondering if i simply didn’t notice that or if they were just that unmemorable. Probably just didn’t notice
The movie doesn't really call attention to their appearances. The main cast spends more time pointing out the two joke gods over the ones based on real world cultures
Gosh. That movie was supposed to be so much better. I heard somewhere (don’t remember if it was reliable info though) that the director literally went out his way to make the movie bad on purpose for shits and giggles. I don’t know if that’s true or not, but the movie that we got certainly makes it feel true.
Yes this would have been cool and actually important. There is so much talk of gods in the MCU. But ultimately gods should be intangible and above human comprehension. I think the eternals was the closest we could get to something like that. It more examined the gods’ creations and their relationship to them. Not fully understanding their creators or their intentions, but still having faith and perusing the mission that their gods gave them. It was actually brilliant in that way.
But simply a marvel gods movie would be very hard to make and would have to be super conceptual. Mostly because Gods are a bit different in MCU than how normal people consider them. Loki and Thor are “gods”, but in reality are portrayed as just superpowered men. Very tangible and human.
“God” in Christianity is completely intangible and never to be truly understood or seen.
So I think there is big distinction between gods and GODS in marvel.
“Gods”: like the asgardians can be very tangible. Played by actors and look completely human.
“GODS”: like eternity should be more like concepts or extra dimensional, non-corporeal entities without shape or form. Only to be represented by something tangible for the sake of the movie and audiences understanding.
So, with that said, what does a marvel gods movie look like to you? Would it be focused on the little gods, or the big GODS?
Would a god be the main character? Who? Or would it be from the point of view from someone human like doctor strange? What would they even do in the film? What would the film be called?
Lastly, I think there’s a good chance we’ll see this in the next saga. Marvel needs to keep getting bigger and bigger with their films to out do themselves over and over again. So it’s possible we’ll get a proper gods movie. Even just for the spectacle at least
This is where Moon Knight would actually shine. He's a vessel that can view the gods from a fully Human POV.
Even in his show Konshu was treated full of mystery and unexplored history. It was perfect.
I like to think there's layers. There's avatars/eternals, the servants of the gods that live amongst people. Then there's the demi-god to capital G God range, so the Olympians, Asguardians, and Egyptian gods. Then the Celestials. The world ending titans of the universe. And above them all are the forces of the cosmos and nature, Eternity, The Living Tribunal, even Love now.
I think the main cast would have been Moon Knight, some of the Eternals, and Thor + Jane. With Gorr as the main Villain and Hercules as a side antagonist that turns good in the end.
Done right it would explore the different levels of gods, give us new lore, but still leave just enough a mystery and beyond our understanding.
I wish sony and Disney could play ball better. I wanted an Avengers movie with knull as the vilian. I think this could be a great vehicle to tell the mcu gods story.
I may get downvoted for this, but I found Gorr's motivations (revenge) a bit myopic and petty for a existential level threat to the pantheons. This does not translate into an existential threat to ordinary mortals. The average viewer would likely respond with "cool visuals, let get some coffee." as the death of gods and extra-dimensional entities (even in the world of the film) has zero-impact on the price of Starbucks.
Now if Gorr had to sacrifice every mortal in the universe in alphabetical order to be able to get an audience with Eternity, then viewers would be more interested in a multi-film arc (at least those whose surname starts with the first few letters of the alphabet).
I agree. I actually like the multiverse saga more than most people, but for me the biggest missed opportunity is that they planted the seeds for SO many potential storylines and teams, but haven’t really capitalized on any of them yet, which is crazy to me.
Like you said, they’ve been fleshing out the various mythologies/pantheons quite a bit between Eternals, Love & Thunder, Moon Knight, Ms. Marvel, Shang-Chi, and Wakanda Forever. There absolutely should’ve been some kind of god war with Eternals as the central connective tissue (could have flash backs to them encountering each of the various pantheons and their avatars throughout history).
We got Thunderbolts finally, but there were a couple major missed opportunities by not including Baron Zemo on the team (perhaps disguised as Taskmaster initially before revealing himself). It would’ve been cool if he initially infiltrated the team since he knows it’s full of super soldiers and wants to kill them before an experience in the Void causes him to have a change of heart. Abomination also should’ve been on the roster imo.
We have Ms. Marvel, Stature, Kate Bishop, Patriot, Wiccan, Speed, Kid Loki, Ironheart, and America Chavez but still no Champions/Young Avengers. Back when Kang was still the plan, it would’ve have been perfect to have this team face off against some version of him with Iron Lad on the roster and a twist reveal that he’s actually another (good) variant of Kang.
We have Blade, Moon Knight, Black Knight, Agatha, Werewolf by Night, Elsa Bloodstone, and Man-Thing, but no Midnight Sons yet.
I really wish we got multiple standalone subplots going on that each built up to a team up movie against a different big bad specific to their domain. So that there was more connective tissue between all these characters and the teams had established dynamics heading into Secret Wars. It would’ve felt like an appropriate escalation from the Infinity Saga - instead of 5-6 individual heroes coming together to fight each other and eventually form a team, we would’ve had 5-6 teams fighting and then eventually forming a super team lol.
….. that’s the last issue of Infinity Gauntlet…. And they never did that!
Phase 4/5 was a "do your own thing" to the directors and the show runners. I think the connections we are finding are coincidence rather than a master plan gone wrong.
Marvel has always been hazy on how it treats gods. Like, the Asgardians call themselves that, but they’ve also been depicted as more like just another alien race when it suited them. In contrast, Khonshu and the Egyptian canon felt more like otherworldly entities. The Celestials were kinda in the middle of those - long “lived” entities who people ended up telling legends about.
I think Thor: Love and Thunder would have been fine if the film was actually good. Some more cameos during the council scene would have been a nice touch, though.
Honestly I wish they showed the Egyptian gods there with an obvious empty seat showing how Konshu disdains these types of fakeish godly activities.