Considering they will probably add apprentice IDs before any other named character its really unlikely Faust will get another one when she started with Proselyte... right PM?
(need more info on her character since i dont really know what sinner fits her best. Sinclair or Meursault maybe. Sinclair is probably the funniest option and gives him the irony of having a fully "robotic" ID)
I was discussing this with my friends, i think they dont release 2 seasonal ids for the same part of a season, so its unlikely Faust gets an ID for another canto character, but a id for an intervalo can still happen
Nshu and Daiyushu are the only ones we could think of and it’s more of a continuation of egos we already had for a while that happen to show up with the 2 bums from N Corp.
Now this one is an excellent one, hadn’t thought about that one…but firefirst was basically willed into existance and I doubt they were thinking of making it at the season start.
Another Finger ID for Faust, we have Two all we need is Three more! (But in all seriousness, Faust and Meursault shouldn’t get Finger Apprentice IDs this season considering they both already have 2 finger IDs)
Kim Jihoon just called, there’s going to be one mention of an offscreen heishou grunt in the middle of part 2 and that’s the justification for season 7 to be all heishou ids
Honestly if they would just add the last two Heishous to complete the 11 Heishou team as random Standard IDs in the middle of this Season it'd be aight, then just never add more Heishous after that
The funny thing is that given that the udjat teams are seemingly based on zodiac signs, we could simply get spammed with unnamed udjat IDs instead since that's essentially the same thing as heishous at this point
But Ares is also the name for the Greek God of War. Moses also mentioned a Euryalos Squad back in the Smoke Wars, Euryalos being one of the 3 Gorgon Sisters
I'd have to check but I am pretty sure that's not the case? It's Euryalos(a person) from the Argos squad, considering that I think it's probably one of the Argonauts named Euryalos
One of the smaller details being Euryalos was one of the argonauts who was in the Trojan Horse. Makes you wonder what exactly happened in the Smoke Wars that will be the parallel for that.
Inflicting bleed count when hit would probably be insane for the bleed team, I don’t play bleed but I know maintaining count is a huge problem for them
Unfortunately I can't just use sanguine desires every time a boss uses a move with 16 unbreakable coins that delete my count
On the other hand (imo) the actual bleed id's are stupid broken and never die so hitting winrate has not failed me in over a year
Bloodfiends have a flesh and blood body just like everyone else. There's no indication they would be resistant to surgery or augmentation, we just haven't seen a Bloodfiend with a prosthesis yet (likely because they don't really need them)
Blood is EVERYTHING to Bloodfiends, I doubt it helps the illness to remove the blood you naturally have in your body. That would be taking away so much in terms of their sanity away, it would be a permanent state of starvation.
Resistant to prosthetics or augmentation is irrelevant compared to the existential state all Bloodfiends are cursed with, lessening the blood they have in their bodies is a net negative for handling the thirst.
PM would also probably need to explain how Sancho would let that happened if Rocinante was removed in the process too
IDs that I want PM to make from part 1 of this season...
1. Lucio Hong Lu--or maybe Sinclair?
2. Valencina Rodion--please not Outis.
3. Faust Albina--she has the robotic charm, no?
4. Yi-Sang or Heathcliff Ren?
Lucio Sinclair would be pretty awful since we already have thumb sinclair and he's pretty good. I wouldn't mind Honglu. As an aside I also think Lucio is an ID some of the females could pull off, I could kinda see Rodion pull it off. Or Faust. They even both can tie into his textbook gimmick storywise, him amounting to a prop to a more important person fits with Rodion and the textbook gimmick is easy to work into Faust's own deal too.
I could see Rodion as worthy candidate--Lucio might be quiet, reserved and obedient, but that's because he earnestly wanted to earn Valencina's acknowledgement, and he was willing to do everything--even enduring her abuse. This could mirror how Rodion strives for acknowledgement from others, wanting to be special.
Hong Lu on the other, was more like him being burdened with Valencia's expectation and had to do it for his survival, this was, quite unlikely to suit him though...
I don't want Faust, she already got an ID this week.
Nah this character is Meursault coded:
- Iron Maiden, which is an execution device, like how Meur was executed
- Sun motiffs
- Eyes similar to the eyes seen on Chains of Others
- Tank (which Meur has somewhat been ever since the game released, with this changing only now)
Her personality is extremely unlike Muersault. She wants to have fun and eventually can't stop herself from breaking her assignment. To the point where she gets punished.
This character is SO Meursault coded its crazy:
- Iron Maiden, which is an execution device, like how Meur was executed
- Sun motiffs
- Eyes similar to the eyes seen on Chains of Others
- Tank (which Meur has somewhat been ever since the game released, with this changing only now)
Honestly you might have better chances than people wishing for the nursefather ids. The apprentice seems specifically madde so we have ids more at our level than people who can fight with virgil
at our level than people who can fight with virgil
Tbh I think that's starting to be less and less of a factor as time goes, last season we got like 3 LV75 IDs and one LV83 ID with Lei Heng who seems to outrank Valencina. Season before that we also got two LV85 IDs.
I do think the apprentices are more likely than the nursefathers though, two nursefathers really seem to have non-playable designs (ring is obvious but pinky also doesn't look like the kind of design we get on IDs) and the others seem very typical of their factions(Valencine is pretty much a 1 to 1 from Lei Heng's design), compared to the apprentices where they seem to have been designed to really pop and look unique. I would be a bit surprised if we don't get the index nursefather though, but for the others yeah I think they might not be coming.
Mind you, it’s mentioned in LCA Outis’ story that the Index Spider was a former Star of the City all on his own. I’m assuming by “former”, it means he went inactive at one point, possibly from whatever incident happened with Ryoshu when she left, and the SotC bounty for him simply didn’t matter anymore, rather than because he actually weakened.
With the Index Spider being that strong, the others would likely be of a similar caliber, even if they aren’t necessarily exactly the same. That said, I agree that “being too strong” isn’t really a relevant criteria anymore. The fact of the matter is, it’s already been established in Dante’s Notes that our Sinners aren’t necessarily as strong as the IDs are, either in skill (uptie tier) or in augments (levels).
If we don't get the Nursefather's as Ids, I expect bad end Ryoshu to have killed all of hers. Since the apprentices are presumably all modeled after what was imparted onto her, she could feasibly substitute for their teachers, so it's no problem on the logistics front.
It actually does kinda check out not only with the knightly armor but also with how she tries to go off script and disobey the plan after the fight which is very Don Quixote of her
They could make the argument that any E.G.O. user can resonate with the E.G.O. of anyone else, but this character doesn’t even have an E.G.O. in the first place, so it doesn’t matter.
I found her bulky look in the armor equally adorable as her unarmored look
Where's that one pic of armored Albedo-
Considering they will probably add apprentice IDs before any other named character its really unlikely Faust will get another one when she started with Proselyte... right PM?
(need more info on her character since i dont really know what sinner fits her best. Sinclair or Meursault maybe. Sinclair is probably the funniest option and gives him the irony of having a fully "robotic" ID)
kromer questioning everything
Another one so soon? No. Another one? Not unlikely, alot of characters got atleast 2 ID last season.
So we could still get Albina Faust. Sinclair will probably get Ren or Lucio IMO.
I was discussing this with my friends, i think they dont release 2 seasonal ids for the same part of a season, so its unlikely Faust gets an ID for another canto character, but a id for an intervalo can still happen
Gubo Sang and Horse Sang (not even that far apart)
also NShu and Daiyushu
Gubo is from a canto, Horse intervalo.
Nshu and Daiyushu are the only ones we could think of and it’s more of a continuation of egos we already had for a while that happen to show up with the 2 bums from N Corp.
Also Greg with firefist and priest
Now this one is an excellent one, hadn’t thought about that one…but firefirst was basically willed into existance and I doubt they were thinking of making it at the season start.
>i think they dont release 2 seasonal ids for the same part of a season
Events are listed with the season. Heathcliff and Meursault both got 2 seasonal IDs (Caposault+Meurssetti and Roostercliff+WHeathcliff)
I meant like 2 ids from a character for a canto, one is from a rerun and the other id from a canto character
Aweshu an Daishu, both IDs of Canto 8 characters
if sinclair gets a second thumb identity i’m gonna scream
Probably Ren then, I'd prefer that anyway. The other idea I saw for Lucio was Hong Lu.
yeah, hong lu’d be better imo. hong lu’s been needing a new burn identity anyways (even if tremor’s the primary gimmick)
I’m hoping for Renclair, if only for the Blubberbubble synergy it would allow
I think Lucio will probably go to Yi Sang so he gets a new burn ID to go with the seasonal E.G.O (Unless... Valencia Sang somehow)
Another Finger ID for Faust, we have Two all we need is Three more! (But in all seriousness, Faust and Meursault shouldn’t get Finger Apprentice IDs this season considering they both already have 2 finger IDs)
Mao Faust doesn't have The Pinky as a tag
But then again, Lei Heng, Pinky Apprentice and Kong Qiu (Zilu too) aren't Pinky in their tags either. I guess it's just a Pinky thing.
what’s Faust’s second finger ID? afaik she got her first with index
Maost is a pinker
We still need to see the Index Apprentice somewhere.
I reckon Meursault Ring, Ishmael Thumb and Sinclair Pinky of the three apprentices we fought so far.
Please don’t make this another Family Hierarch situation where all the characters with cool designs don’t get IDs.
I want to play as Miss Dark Souls
Kim Jihoon just called, there’s going to be one mention of an offscreen heishou grunt in the middle of part 2 and that’s the justification for season 7 to be all heishou ids
Nah season 8 is going to be called "Uh Oh All Heishou!" and every character is going to be a Heishou Pack member including Dante and Mephistopheles.
Honestly if they would just add the last two Heishous to complete the 11 Heishou team as random Standard IDs in the middle of this Season it'd be aight, then just never add more Heishous after that
Well, I think there will be at least 1 for the nocturnal sweeping/spring cultivation bokgak(if they don't go only ego route).
Evil Sweeper Abno EGO jumpscare
The funny thing is that given that the udjat teams are seemingly based on zodiac signs, we could simply get spammed with unnamed udjat IDs instead since that's essentially the same thing as heishous at this point
But that will be canto 11 probably.
... Aren't they Egyptian?
Can't read your other comment
But Ares is also the name for the Greek God of War. Moses also mentioned a Euryalos Squad back in the Smoke Wars, Euryalos being one of the 3 Gorgon Sisters
I'd have to check but I am pretty sure that's not the case? It's Euryalos(a person) from the Argos squad, considering that I think it's probably one of the Argonauts named Euryalos
TIL there's another person called Euryalos (not Euryale) in Greek Mythology.
But either way, it's not a Zodiac, both names are Greek.
One of the smaller details being Euryalos was one of the argonauts who was in the Trojan Horse. Makes you wonder what exactly happened in the Smoke Wars that will be the parallel for that.
There is seemingly no random faction that will produce a ton of same looking ID's
But KJH could do the funniest thing and just make half the season heishou again because why not
Meanwhile PM in the corner ready to release twenty mannequin IDs
We could just get a ton of generic finger IDs though. It's already a faction tag so it wouldn't be too hard for them to synergize for some reason.
Still salty about not getting a Xue Pan ID
WRONG
12 billions Udjat IDs
Prolly wont happen but I rlly hope it does, this design rlly stood out to me
Inflicting bleed count when hit would probably be insane for the bleed team, I don’t play bleed but I know maintaining count is a huge problem for them
That already exists. Contempt Awe Ryoshu can do it at 7 gaze. It's pretty easy to set up, too.
Don’t even need 7 gaze for that lmao, just guard anytime
Huge problem without thinking*
Unfortunately I can't just use sanguine desires every time a boss uses a move with 16 unbreakable coins that delete my count
On the other hand (imo) the actual bleed id's are stupid broken and never die so hitting winrate has not failed me in over a year
But you can lol. Bosses only do that like once every 3 turns, you can easily fuel Sanguine in 3 turns.
We’re limbus players, we don’t do that thinking stuff
thinking? whats that?
Kid named Sanguine Desire:
Bwo, you Sanguine Desire? When you get your first stacks, the boss just ends in a death spiral
Even if it killed me, if this is the iron maiden then I don't mind
even if its not likely it's gonna be so funny if sinclair gets her as an ID
The exact same thoughts that filled my mind when i saw her, i don't care who gets it but please KJH give someone a Ring Apprentice ID.
https://preview.redd.it/jucwep6d0oag1.png?width=782&format=png&auto=webp&s=61f5766f3f492f30f44f726b8f4ddb64d9be5564
Feel like A Faust or Fish ID
robot don in your future
I'm honestly wondering how PM would make her a cyborg, while keeping her a Bloodfiend. And more importantly, where is Rocinante going?
Bloodfiends have a flesh and blood body just like everyone else. There's no indication they would be resistant to surgery or augmentation, we just haven't seen a Bloodfiend with a prosthesis yet (likely because they don't really need them)
Blood is EVERYTHING to Bloodfiends, I doubt it helps the illness to remove the blood you naturally have in your body. That would be taking away so much in terms of their sanity away, it would be a permanent state of starvation.
Resistant to prosthetics or augmentation is irrelevant compared to the existential state all Bloodfiends are cursed with, lessening the blood they have in their bodies is a net negative for handling the thirst.
PM would also probably need to explain how Sancho would let that happened if Rocinante was removed in the process too
We did in fact see a Bloodfiend with prosthesics already. Sasha, Casseti's Kindred.
Rocinante goes in a chest compartment with a foot inside obviously!
IDs that I want PM to make from part 1 of this season... 1. Lucio Hong Lu--or maybe Sinclair? 2. Valencina Rodion--please not Outis. 3. Faust Albina--she has the robotic charm, no? 4. Yi-Sang or Heathcliff Ren?
Lucio Sinclair would be pretty awful since we already have thumb sinclair and he's pretty good. I wouldn't mind Honglu. As an aside I also think Lucio is an ID some of the females could pull off, I could kinda see Rodion pull it off. Or Faust. They even both can tie into his textbook gimmick storywise, him amounting to a prop to a more important person fits with Rodion and the textbook gimmick is easy to work into Faust's own deal too.
I could see Rodion as worthy candidate--Lucio might be quiet, reserved and obedient, but that's because he earnestly wanted to earn Valencina's acknowledgement, and he was willing to do everything--even enduring her abuse. This could mirror how Rodion strives for acknowledgement from others, wanting to be special.
Hong Lu on the other, was more like him being burdened with Valencia's expectation and had to do it for his survival, this was, quite unlikely to suit him though...
I don't want Faust, she already got an ID this week.
Thumb Ishmael with Valencia being her "Ahab" figure (someone to emulate who abuses her).
P L E A S E either Ishy, Faust or Don in an armor-gown
Nah this character is Meursault coded: - Iron Maiden, which is an execution device, like how Meur was executed - Sun motiffs - Eyes similar to the eyes seen on Chains of Others - Tank (which Meur has somewhat been ever since the game released, with this changing only now)
Her personality is extremely unlike Muersault. She wants to have fun and eventually can't stop herself from breaking her assignment. To the point where she gets punished.
That's Donqui behavior.
Faust already got an Index ID. I feel like this one would probably go to Rodya or Ishmael
This character is SO Meursault coded its crazy: - Iron Maiden, which is an execution device, like how Meur was executed - Sun motiffs - Eyes similar to the eyes seen on Chains of Others - Tank (which Meur has somewhat been ever since the game released, with this changing only now)
Honestly you might have better chances than people wishing for the nursefather ids. The apprentice seems specifically madde so we have ids more at our level than people who can fight with virgil
Tbh I think that's starting to be less and less of a factor as time goes, last season we got like 3 LV75 IDs and one LV83 ID with Lei Heng who seems to outrank Valencina. Season before that we also got two LV85 IDs.
I do think the apprentices are more likely than the nursefathers though, two nursefathers really seem to have non-playable designs (ring is obvious but pinky also doesn't look like the kind of design we get on IDs) and the others seem very typical of their factions(Valencine is pretty much a 1 to 1 from Lei Heng's design), compared to the apprentices where they seem to have been designed to really pop and look unique. I would be a bit surprised if we don't get the index nursefather though, but for the others yeah I think they might not be coming.
Mind you, it’s mentioned in LCA Outis’ story that the Index Spider was a former Star of the City all on his own. I’m assuming by “former”, it means he went inactive at one point, possibly from whatever incident happened with Ryoshu when she left, and the SotC bounty for him simply didn’t matter anymore, rather than because he actually weakened.
With the Index Spider being that strong, the others would likely be of a similar caliber, even if they aren’t necessarily exactly the same. That said, I agree that “being too strong” isn’t really a relevant criteria anymore. The fact of the matter is, it’s already been established in Dante’s Notes that our Sinners aren’t necessarily as strong as the IDs are, either in skill (uptie tier) or in augments (levels).
If we don't get the Nursefather's as Ids, I expect bad end Ryoshu to have killed all of hers. Since the apprentices are presumably all modeled after what was imparted onto her, she could feasibly substitute for their teachers, so it's no problem on the logistics front.
Lei Heng and Jiq Qiu aren't at our level and both got IDs.
For no logical reason aside from it being funny, please make it Don Quixote.
The second coming of Reindeer Rodion
It actually does kinda check out not only with the knightly armor but also with how she tries to go off script and disobey the plan after the fight which is very Don Quixote of her
Sorry pal but you're getting only 2 options for new ID's:
New Heishou
Expedition 33
Choose wisely.
I yearn for the maiden
She's so cool...
More armored Ishy...
Sorry, Yi Sang Pinky Apprentice only
Understood
Giving this Identity to Faust
we ❤ albino
please project moon make this an id and give it to Faust
My goat needs more busted IDs, I don't even care if it goes to bleed
This season is gonna have some baller IDs
Giant kitchen knife and matryoshka doll ID
She's a fighting game character, and I love her.
Guilty Gear crossover when.
I want to imagine the ID is still straight up Albina: the actual ID replaces Fascia instead.
Sinclair's meat shoved into a sword
No, 20 more heishou units
I could see that being an ego and Albina being the id to create a pair similar to the fell bullet yi sang id and ego
an ego seems more fitting
She’s not an abnormality though? That wouldn’t make any sense
what about the base egos? they arent extracted from abnos
Those are personal EGO, they’re unique to the sinners.
They could make the argument that any E.G.O. user can resonate with the E.G.O. of anyone else, but this character doesn’t even have an E.G.O. in the first place, so it doesn’t matter.
You guys have a skill for picking the worst possible IDs
Yeah let's ask for poise guy with sword instead of the badass iron maiden robot with a living greatsword
How’s this a worst possible ID?