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Huge love to the incredible trans men included here too. I felt bad not saying queer people in general. You are seen and heard. I'm just venting my frustrations as a trans queer woman đŤ
Thanks, huge love to you too! As a trans man who often gets annoyed when we are left out I do see this as an exception. The majority of trans porn is focused on trans women. It happens to us too, but genuinely a lot less
Totally. I've just been going through my journey and getting through it because of wonderful queer community. It's so important to me that trans women and trans men have each other's back. I never ever want y'all to feel alone or forgotten. Gender diverse people are all in this together â¤ď¸
you shouldnât feel bad, itâs okay to focus on a certain issue it doesnât mean other issues donât exist as well (said as someone who is transmasc)
You'll see in the comments below a few people taking issue with it even with my comment above đ It's hard to talk about specific issues in such a diverse community because it always has the potential of making someone feel left out. And that's the last thing I want to do for any queer person.
Ultimately I agree with you, but I care more about queer people's feelings than being 'right'. Which I know is a losing battle, but I'll keep trying anyways! Some people will always be upset any time I say anything because everything is up for interpretation, but I won't stop trying to make the most amount of queer people I can feel loved and seen while still talking about the specific challenges different parts of our queer community face.
eh, I would say women liking yaoi can be fetishistic. However, I don't think it's bad, so long as they can differentiate fantasy from reality and don't harass gay men. Same with men watching lesbian porn. It's fine if you aren't weird about it, but too many men are weird about it.
Remember, Orange Pedophile and nazis from H*ritage Foundation stated in their 2025 Manifesto how our mere existence is "pornographic" and how we "should be banned from public spaces". They really don't want to see us as humans.
It's honestly sad that people are fetishizing queer (mostly transgender) people in pornography, I had a transgender male boyfriend and one day he came to me and asked how I'd feel if in the future he got bottom surgery, I replied "I don't mind if you have gender reassignment surgery or not, it will never change my view of you at all, the only thing that matters to me is you doing whatever makes you feel comfortable" he told me I was the best bf ever and said he'd heard stories from trans people who dated cis people and he knew I wasn't like that, I didn't understand what he meant until now, he meant that some trans people's cis partners pressured them into getting gender reassignment surgery because they fetishized them, it's actually disgusting
It's just awful and tragic, I never knew about this and thought my response to my ex asking me about gender reassignment surgery was a response every cis person with a trans partner gave, now his reaction of calling me amazing and the best person ever makes so much more sense
I hate that the bar is that low. Reddit still has soooooo many of those slur subreddit names still. It makes me ill seeing some trans girls post on them. Like it's your life girl, I still respect you. Get that bag, queen. But I sure hope you are making amazing money off it cause that shit is so fucked.
The bar is in hell.
Thanks for the empathy â¤ď¸ It's so frustrating.
I've genuinely met straight men who thought lesbian was just a porn genre made to appeal to them. They refused to believe women would actually do that to each other without a camera.
Various demographics of women being simultaneously shat on by society and heavily fetishised is a common trope. Lesbians and transgender women get hit hard by that, as do many women of various races e.g. Asian and Latina women.
Never my intention to make anyone feel alone. Feel free to read my top line comment in this thread. I explicitly called out how important it is to ensure trans men feel seen and heard.
Careful about that last statement. I know you are saying that within the umbrella of Trans and gender diverse people, but for clarity's sake, trans women and lesbians are absolutely both queer women. And the fetishization of Femininity is what this meme is about within the context of adult content consumed by a majority cis male audience.
It doesn't diminish our gender diverse community to talk about how feminine queer people are sexualized. Context matters here.
Oh I will help him clarify his last sentence. I believe he means "being trans (person) doesn't (just) mean you're a queer woman (it could mean you're a queer man or queer enby too)." He just wants to be included. Because ya know, even in most inclusive space, almost no one remembers trans men exist and only think of trans people as trans women. I don't think he means "trans women are not queer women". Hope this helps.
Ah yeah- I was mostly referring to trans men, I assumed they were the primary victims due to their anatomy. Iâm not on the hub, let alone on that category- so I wasnât quite sure. But yeah, youâre super right!
Actually for better and worse thats changing. The stats say:
As for subcategories though, the site determined that users searched for "FTM" porn eight times more than "MTF," with male users viewing trans porn 22% more than women.
Also interesting is the fact that women watch "trans maleâ porn 115% more while searches for âFTMâ also apparently grew by 202% on the PornhubGay side of things, making it the offshoot's 20th most popular category.
Itâs literally not lmao. I said that because saying âwomenâ is not inclusive to other identities of people with female genitalia. Itâd be sexualization if I said âoh yeah our pussies make us desirable in porn.â
The vast majority of the people in transgender category on PH are pre/non-op trans women⌠so like, no, itâs not âpeople with vaginasâ itâs women. Nearly exclusively women.
That category is DOMINATED by trans women on sites like PH. Like 1000:1. If this included indie content creators and independent SWers, Iâd be totally with youâthereâs so much nonbinary and transmasc/male content in those circlesâbut on sites like PH that post mostly mainstream content for cishet men, itâs nearly exclusively trans women in the transgender category.
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Fetishization â support.
If anything itâs kinda the opposite. They wouldnât fetishize you if they respected your autonomy.
Itâs not fetishising. And itâs mostly straight women that watch lesbian porn
What would you call it when a group of people is seen as a porn category and reduced to their sexuality or body parts?
Lol. Do you have sources for that bold claim?
It's a peculiar thing, where hetero porn appeals to bisexuals and homo porn appeals to semisexuals
what's semisexuality?
It's having sex twice a year, rather than once every 2 years like bisexuals.
I can't lie, I snorted.
Huge love to the incredible trans men included here too. I felt bad not saying queer people in general. You are seen and heard. I'm just venting my frustrations as a trans queer woman đŤ
Thanks, huge love to you too! As a trans man who often gets annoyed when we are left out I do see this as an exception. The majority of trans porn is focused on trans women. It happens to us too, but genuinely a lot less
Totally. I've just been going through my journey and getting through it because of wonderful queer community. It's so important to me that trans women and trans men have each other's back. I never ever want y'all to feel alone or forgotten. Gender diverse people are all in this together â¤ď¸
Absolutely! The men and women and all the enby's too, love y'all so muchđ
you shouldnât feel bad, itâs okay to focus on a certain issue it doesnât mean other issues donât exist as well (said as someone who is transmasc)
You'll see in the comments below a few people taking issue with it even with my comment above đ It's hard to talk about specific issues in such a diverse community because it always has the potential of making someone feel left out. And that's the last thing I want to do for any queer person.
Ultimately I agree with you, but I care more about queer people's feelings than being 'right'. Which I know is a losing battle, but I'll keep trying anyways! Some people will always be upset any time I say anything because everything is up for interpretation, but I won't stop trying to make the most amount of queer people I can feel loved and seen while still talking about the specific challenges different parts of our queer community face.
thatâs really considerate <3 go easy on yourself though, some people will die on any hill yknow
Fetishised but otherwise treated with disrespect and/or outright hated
And they said trans women would never be treated like "real" women
They think it's hot when we have sex, but only want us to do it for their entertainment.
There's no "otherwise" about it, fetishization is a form of disrespect and hatred.
Itâs not fetishising. Just like women liking yaoi isnât fetishising
To treat a group as sex objects and then object to their rights and freedoms is about as foundationally fetishising of a group as is humanly possible
A lot of yaoi is outright fetishization.
It very much can be.
yes the hell it is lmfao
eh, I would say women liking yaoi can be fetishistic. However, I don't think it's bad, so long as they can differentiate fantasy from reality and don't harass gay men. Same with men watching lesbian porn. It's fine if you aren't weird about it, but too many men are weird about it.
Maybe not inherently? But it very much can and is fetisization
It's not always fetishization. But very, very often it is.
Remember, Orange Pedophile and nazis from H*ritage Foundation stated in their 2025 Manifesto how our mere existence is "pornographic" and how we "should be banned from public spaces". They really don't want to see us as humans.
It's honestly sad that people are fetishizing queer (mostly transgender) people in pornography, I had a transgender male boyfriend and one day he came to me and asked how I'd feel if in the future he got bottom surgery, I replied "I don't mind if you have gender reassignment surgery or not, it will never change my view of you at all, the only thing that matters to me is you doing whatever makes you feel comfortable" he told me I was the best bf ever and said he'd heard stories from trans people who dated cis people and he knew I wasn't like that, I didn't understand what he meant until now, he meant that some trans people's cis partners pressured them into getting gender reassignment surgery because they fetishized them, it's actually disgusting
The opposite also happens where partners will pressure trans people into not getting specific surgeries done.
It's just awful and tragic, I never knew about this and thought my response to my ex asking me about gender reassignment surgery was a response every cis person with a trans partner gave, now his reaction of calling me amazing and the best person ever makes so much more sense
Remember slave owners fucked their slaves
Not fucked, raped. Slaves cannot consent to owners
Those are both the same thing in context.
Ohmaagaadddd
That hit too hard đ
What is orchid sexual? Because the first thing that comes to mind is trees for some reason
I'm so sorry if this is offensive in any way btw, I'm genuinely curious
Feeling sexual attraction or arousal but never wanting to act on it I believe
Ohhhhhh ok, thank youuu
Ohh don't be đ
It is afterall a micro label under the ace spectrum
I feel sexual arousal and stuff - but I don't actually have intercourse with anyone - mostly đ
Ohhhhh ok, thank you so much, have a great rest of your day
As an intersex person, at least the category names they decide to use for all of you have moved away from the practice of teaching people new slurs.
But back to being serious, this shit sucks.
I hate that the bar is that low. Reddit still has soooooo many of those slur subreddit names still. It makes me ill seeing some trans girls post on them. Like it's your life girl, I still respect you. Get that bag, queen. But I sure hope you are making amazing money off it cause that shit is so fucked.
The bar is in hell.
Thanks for the empathy â¤ď¸ It's so frustrating.
Ah yes, because weâre âcategories.â
I don't think there was any offense intended here
I wasnât meaning OP was being offensive, Iâm talking about the hub
yes
The exact opposite actually, they see us as a porn genre, not people
I'm going to tear my skin off
Same, queen. Same.
It's crazy...the more they hate, the bigger the fetish.
I feel a bit icky now. Damn. This is exhausting...
If the queers are illegalised, whoâs going to make more?
No! Iâm not saying that Queers only exist in porn. Iâm saying that because where are they going to watch it if theyâre non-existent?
This is just disgusting sorry
I've genuinely met straight men who thought lesbian was just a porn genre made to appeal to them. They refused to believe women would actually do that to each other without a camera.
If it wasn't so sad, I'd find it amusing in a sad way, how much the people who'd call for jailing trans people, still jack off to porn about them.
Various demographics of women being simultaneously shat on by society and heavily fetishised is a common trope. Lesbians and transgender women get hit hard by that, as do many women of various races e.g. Asian and Latina women.
Being a trans man is kind of a trip because it becomes more and more obvious that people just see transgender as trans womenÂ
Transgender doesnât just mean trans women, being trans doesnât mean youâre a queer woman lol.Â
Never my intention to make anyone feel alone. Feel free to read my top line comment in this thread. I explicitly called out how important it is to ensure trans men feel seen and heard.
Careful about that last statement. I know you are saying that within the umbrella of Trans and gender diverse people, but for clarity's sake, trans women and lesbians are absolutely both queer women. And the fetishization of Femininity is what this meme is about within the context of adult content consumed by a majority cis male audience.
It doesn't diminish our gender diverse community to talk about how feminine queer people are sexualized. Context matters here.
Oh I will help him clarify his last sentence. I believe he means "being trans (person) doesn't (just) mean you're a queer woman (it could mean you're a queer man or queer enby too)." He just wants to be included. Because ya know, even in most inclusive space, almost no one remembers trans men exist and only think of trans people as trans women. I don't think he means "trans women are not queer women". Hope this helps.
People with vaginas canât do literally anything without being sexualized & fetishized, istg.
i hate to be that girl but most trans girls do not have vaginas đđ
feminine people canât do anything without being sexualized and fetishized though so your point gets across
Ah yeah- I was mostly referring to trans men, I assumed they were the primary victims due to their anatomy. Iâm not on the hub, let alone on that category- so I wasnât quite sure. But yeah, youâre super right!
oh nope trans men are forgotten in porn like in every other space in the world
Actually for better and worse thats changing. The stats say:
interesting
I mean isnât reducing people to their genitals also kinda sexualizing them
Itâs literally not lmao. I said that because saying âwomenâ is not inclusive to other identities of people with female genitalia. Itâd be sexualization if I said âoh yeah our pussies make us desirable in porn.â
The vast majority of the people in transgender category on PH are pre/non-op trans women⌠so like, no, itâs not âpeople with vaginasâ itâs women. Nearly exclusively women.
Oh, the dream...
Technically, it just shows that people who are reasonable and open minded are watching more porn, which also seems like it tracks.
For many it is only a fetish sadly
In fact, itâs the reverse fetishization shows a lack of respect for your independence.
Transgender doesnât just mean trans women there are trans men and non binary ppl. You could write queer people and this meme would make more sense.
That category is DOMINATED by trans women on sites like PH. Like 1000:1. If this included indie content creators and independent SWers, Iâd be totally with youâthereâs so much nonbinary and transmasc/male content in those circlesâbut on sites like PH that post mostly mainstream content for cishet men, itâs nearly exclusively trans women in the transgender category.
Well there is more support for queer women than queer men globally