Faker: I felt like Doran became nervous because I saw him make mistakes he hadn’t before. Rather than criticize situation I thought about how we could do better in the next play so I felt it was important to help him settle and ease his mind and feel comfortable
My goat conducting therapy in game 5 of the worlds finals. Who else can do that?!
If I remember correctly he even trolled Doran with Anivia dance around top lane, so yeah this therapist mindset is strong within him as well as anything else that’s goated.
omg is there a clip of this
Should be this moment
https://youtu.be/l47xGNAvX4M?si=RxQ6vE_sW--65PB7&t=857
Also after the last teamfight in this game he walled the minion's path xd
the real king of league
Tbf he was also working his second job as a BetterHelp online dispatch during the game. Just another tab open.
Nah, BetterHelp is a scam. My GOAT is way too good for that.
There's a reason why T1 are always playing to win while other teams end up playing to not lose.
Just look at BLG https://www.reddit.com/r/PedroPeepos/s/cuENpA7NUp
One bad dragon play and the team falls apart.
Right? And it's not just that he *can* do it, it's that in the most high-pressure moment of the entire year he's thinking about his teammate's mental state instead of just his own gameplay. most people would be so locked in on their own performance they wouldn't even notice someone else struggling, let alone have the emotional bandwidth to help them through it mid-game
therapy session middle of world finals insane from faker
Someone show this to Inspired
Shut up Jensen
You're all fucking NPCs
yall dont wanna win
Faker understands the role of the "big brother" of the team perfectly. He's the crutch they can fall back on when they're nervous or unsure of themselves.
Some would just call that a captain
One can be a captain without having that "big brother" mentorship. The two are not mutually exclusive.
some people in solo queue could learn from this to make their games better lol
edit: im going to add a bit to this since a good chunk of the replies are misunderstanding what i mean, and some of it my fault as well for not explaining at all.
the point of the video isn’t the encouragement, but the fact Faker recognizes his teammate is making mistakes, and instead of sighing deep or going “jjinjja?!” “ssibal!” he tells him to breathe instead. it’s not the encouragement, it’s the fact he chose to do something positive.
most likely, if you say ANYTHING—even positive—to anyone in solo queue, they’re gonna get mad. so the positive thing you could do is to just STAY QUIET. this includes times when your teammate is “bad,” or they’re “inting” (but it’s really because they’re tilted like crazy), or even straight up trolling. nothing you say will help, and if you do type anything, you:
1.) affect your gameplay, because now you’re typing
2.) affect your tilting teammate, because now they’re typing or typing more
3.) affect your teammates not part of it, because now they’re busy seeing your chat
so, literally, the best thing you could do is /muteall and not give a fuck so that you can focus on yourself. if you want to say anything, say it IRL. if you want to rage, do it IRL (to a certain reasonable point). if you really, really want to say something, just say it before the Nexus explodes (but don’t be a giant asshole and limit your trashtalk to the game).
chances are, very few are going to read this newly added wall of text, but fwiw, this is a great mindset to have in general, not just with the game
Nah.. more like every man child and spineless teenagers should learn from this.
"Hey. Let me complain and curse my own teammate. That should guarantee he plays better and will absolutely not tilt more. Their performance will definitely improve after I encourage them with negativity."
I think the logic goes like this:
"If this loss is my opponent's fault, then there is nothing more I can do - I am already trying my hardest to attack my enemies and it is not working. I have no power or control over my situation.
However, if this loss is my teammate's fault, then there is something more I can do, which is attack my teammates. This allows me to harm my enemies, giving me power and control over my situation.
In fact, when I have tried this strategy in the past, it has proven highly effective as my teammates instantly become angry. I am shown immediate evidence that my deliberate choices are successful in accomplishing my goals, suggesting that I am good at something, and I like being good at something.
Furthermore, my opponents are prepared to fight me but my teammates are not. If I go into game with the goal of attacking my teammates personally instead of winning the match I will be at a significant advantage.
Therefore, I will convince myself that my teammates are my enemies, because I am no longer helpless"
Bro cooked.
https://imgur.com/a/XbaD4oL
on one hand, d4 is the rank I associate with hardstuck griefers (disclaimer: I have never made it to diamond).
on the other hand, I'm concerned this implies the right hand individual is wise. The sarcasm might be more clear if I made them silver instead.
Whenever someone decides to troll/throw/grief when we are losing and MAYBE had the chance to make a comeback, but they decide that they would rather "control" the situation by making us lose it reminds me of the Family Guy bit where Peter entered Brian into a dog show and he "commands him to walk away."
For reference: https://youtu.be/1DQWkXjWHJE?si=rqvzWTUG3sMaLXOT&t=113
I would be much more likely to calm my teammates nerves if i had voice. In text people take everything as an attack, so I don't bother.
"It's all good, we got them next time" somehow comes across as blame.
"Bro, go roam I'll be useless now" is blame.
"Lets not fight" is blame.
It drives me crazy.
This is more because its Faker who is telling you the thing matters more random soloq teammates will never be that lol. you see it in sports all the time.
No offense but no one is trying to do all that for a soloQ win. People are just looking to release frustration
No when your solo queue teammates make a single mistake it proves they've actually been horrible at League of Legends for every second of every game they've played and the game is now lost because they are permanently horrible.
That’s like using the relax word with your girlfriend, but in that moment, you have multiple girlfriends.
Relax is a gendered word in that context, so it's no surprise girls get pissed off when they're told to "relax". It's a lot different from encouraging your solo queue teammates instead of berating them for misplays. I remember Riot released a stat a while back showing negative behaviour in solo queue decreases some people's win rates by up to 10%. It was pretty significant
edit: by gendered word I mean language which has sexist subtext and historical context. English isn't my native language and that's the phrase I am familiar with. Sorry? lol
What the fuck does "relax is a gendered word" mean?
It means that historically, men have said relax to women specifically because men believe that women are overly emotional and prone to hysteria. That is why he said "in that context", because when you say it to your girlfriend, that is how they will perceive it.
It's similar to how "boy" can be something you say to a friend, but if you say it to a black person, it'll be racist.
"Gendered word" is a poor way to say "said in a sexist manner" or "said with sexist intent".
Yep you're right! You can replace "gendered word" with what you described it as. Where I am from it's normal to say gendered word or gendered language but I'm not a native speaker, so I am sorry! Have updated my original comment too
Won't argue with that. Just explaining what he meant.
Maybe it's a mistranslation, my bad. That's how I've learned to say the phrase in English. But gendered language to my understanding is language which is used with sexist subtext towards one specific gender. In this case telling a woman to relax or calm down is an example. You can swap "gendered word" in my original comment with this explanation instead.
Look up the history of the word hysteria if you want an example of the way women were treated by society for daring to show emotion.
That still comes across as just because the word has been misused in the past, that somehow means now a man can never ask or tell a woman she needs to calm down or relax, irregardless of what the situation is or how she is acting.
Yes, it can be said in a sexist manner or with sexist intent, as Freezman13 says, but it always being sexist to ask or tell a woman to relax is ludicrous to me.
It's more about being mindful of the language we use. Telling a woman to calm down isn't always going to be sexist or unwarranted but it's always going to carry the weight of that context, so, be mindful. That's it
I'm sorry, but I just can't agree that it always carries that weight of context.
This notion that all women, for all time, will always be victims of what happened to women in the past, and so everyone else has to be especially mindful to not trigger some trauma that they didn't even experience themselves just doesn't sit right with me.
I'm happy to be considerate of someone who has experienced awful things or has had bad experiences which includes then being mindful of my phrasing and what conversation topics I will prompt, but I am not going to treat women as lessers, as not my equals, just on the off chance that they carry a resentment around with them. Especially if that resentment is that someone else was mistreated.
I've known women who are quick to anger just like I've known men who match that description. And equally I've known women who are on the opposite end of that. Same applies to getting carried away in an argument, same to getting excited quickly and every other reason where you might have to ask someone to relax, to calm down.
Let's be real tho if you told one of your SoloQ teammates who just failed an engage to take a deep breath and calm down, they'd interpret that as passive aggressive flame and probably start running it down twice as hard while cursing you out in chat.
Difference is he knows his teammate is actually trying. Many times in solo queue ppl just play with brain off.
U don't get to play together for a year in solo q, also people in solo q try their best to lose or make the game miserable for you. I agree flaming is bad but also the players are annoying cockraches thats need to get blasted all over
Crazy to say flaming is bad and in the same breath call people who have had a bad game cockroaches...
Share your match history if you're so perfect.
wasn't expecting ppl to take my comment this seirous, it was a light-hearted joke comment. But my match history will disprove you, believe me.
you're part of the problem
He is saying verbatim what I say in all chat to tilt the other team lmao
r/foundsylas
The vast majority of your solo queue teammates are not queuing up with the express intention of making the game worse for you.
Meanwhile in soloQ you get flamed by at least 2 people for falling even 10 cs behind your opponent. We live in a society.
Well yeah but your solo q teammates aren't faker lol
That's what a veteran leader looks like 🤷♂️ although Doran still made mistakes in Game 5 tho at least there's no more burden on Doran's shoulder about international shitter (sometimes he still is)
Doran giveth and taketh
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Doran makes one bad play and ppl call for his execution stg
I see no difference to the other players.
Faker misplay and the conversation becomes he is now washed and theres better midlaner that exists
Every player had this treatement, Doran is simply in the spotlight now because he regularly does this stuff for his previous team and people are either expecting him to turn it around or reproduce the same result
Honestly it is though people talked about it non stop after worlds
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All of his others are things that went poorly by a quarter of a second and honestly are good to go for.
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Listen if anyone criticizes keria his misplays I’ll allow Doran slander but because I haven’t seen those posted a thousand times I will not allow Doran slander
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he made multiple misplays in the finals and i never saw anyone talk about what he messed up on only doran.
No all of his others are him misplaying execution because of bad mechanics.
For example, Gragas first teamfight in G4 and Sion 3rd drake fight in G3 where he flashes onto the neeko but doesn't ult fast enough and neeko gets her ult off.
He tries to make game winning plays. The reason T1 is so good at world's is everyone is always trying to make plays. Doran just happens to be spotlighted more. I'm pretty sure looking at world's as a whole, Faker threw the most out of the 5, but meming Doran is funnier. Faker's TPs took a decade off my life no lie.
Heavily disagree. Doran had more game losing plays in that KT series alone than Faker during the entirety of Worlds.
Didn't Faker have 2 games where a bad tp fully lost the game by himself? One into river too far from his team and one to mid turret iirc.
Which games did Doran lose by himself?
I'm saying this as a Faker fanboy. Faker's performance this world's wasn't great.
No. Faker definitely did not play worse than doran in game 5
I saw the number 5. My had.
But no, doran definitely did not play better the entire series. His 0-7 renekton and his Gragas were embarrassing to watch.
And even then I'm pretty sure his gragas was fantastic, maybe I remember wrong. And the renekton game looked bad because he played split pusher in a losing game, but I think the only real mistake he made was trying to execute himself instead of dying for the wave. He was not the reason they lost that game.
His Gragas saved the team from being wiped due to stopping Kench from following up during that nasty ass BDD initiate. They might have been fine but that could have ended up bad.
Yeah I agree. I feel like gragas is his most consistent champ all year, I don't remember him having a bad game on it that series let alone an embarrassing one.
Only game 5? Didn't he go 0-7 on renekton this series
Wait, the LCK org employs the Korean rift announcer???
She's probably a free lancer.
For Doran, it was game 5 of the world finals.
For Faker, it was Sunday morning.
Faker know how good Doran is. Not like my teammate who picked Yasuo top feed and said "it's my fault?"
Too bad soloque players don’t have this mindset.
Well yeah, That's how it should be really. I can't believe this needed to be pointed out lmao. Flaming your teammate only results in more bad plays and animosity.
EDIT: Kinda funny I got downvoted for saying this. I am really on the league subreddit lmao. Id rather have a bad teammate than a good one who keeps flaming the bad players.
Sounds obvious but in high pressure moments most people don't have the emotional intelligence to behave in the ideal way. If you've played any sports you know that true leaders are rare and there are quite a few people who are pessimistic or toxic.
I found it the opposite in actual sports tbh.
Even if your team leader is kind of a dick they will always go to bat for you and never outrightly be toxic to you during game.
After game is fair play but I've never had a bad team leader in an actual match for actual sports.
Everyone gets heated but end of the day when you're playing with the same people weekly night in and out you tend to soften.
In league the constant anonymous roulette of teammates is terrible for team cohesion and general atmosphere. Like you ever go to a pick up game and the random guy walks into the cages (never seen or spoke to him before too) and starts being a dick to everyone? That's league teammates.
Fair enough, it sounds like our experiences have been pretty different lol. I totally get where my teammates are coming from since I’ve said things I regret too, so no hard feelings there. But in my years playing football, we definitely lost games because everyone was mad at each other and communication just died. Sometimes people just feel too much pressure and disconnect. I guess a lot of it just comes down to the environment you're in.
Nah fs it happens sometimes nothing goes right and the team mental dips it happens.
Pretty inspiring ngl. This is beautiful.
Inspired won't see this as inspiring.
What is the original video where this comes from? Doesn't look like a T1scord episode
To play the devil's advocate to whatever the narrator is saying. Even if Faker didn't do anything at all, T1 would have still won as they were on average 10k gold up at this point and Doran dying at this clip won't change the course of the game.
So yes, Faker reassuring his teammate is GOAT behavior but saying it was the reason it "helped them overcome the crisis on the biggest stage" is stretching it quite a bit as KT already we're on life support by the time Doran fucked up in the enemy base.
T1 did lose G3 in 2016 Finals when they were up 10k gold.
I have seen teams lose with a large lead, and it was because of nerves.
Atlus had to shave his head because he thought there was no way Canyon's team could lose after he gapped the game so hard with his Nidalee. anything could happen with a mental collapse and if there's a team draft gap that relies on momentum, one mistake could screw over the game
I don't think they’re saying Faker’s words were the only reason T1 won. It’s more about highlighting how much leadership actually matters. Since the documentary is specifically focused on in-game communication, it feels like a really valid point to make. Even if T1 probably would have won anyway, Faker still stepped up to help Doran through a tough moment. Using a well known situation as an example of the documentary's theme doesn't seem forced to me at all.
I honestly think if more teams had this kind of environment, we wouldn't see so many players get labeled as chokers. Take Fnatic in 2024 for example. They lost that 3-0 finals despite having huge leads in every game. If they’d had a leader there to help them stay calm and reset, they likely would have taken some games or maybe even won the whole thing.
Yeah even if it didn't matter here, it matters for the next time. This could easily have been a pivot where Doran starts to play to not look bad rather than play to win. Even in his interview after, he said he doesn't regret making that play and he thinks it was correct if he did it better. Protecting that mindset is what's important.
Look at BLG. The jungler messed up one play at dragon and the whole team spiraled for the rest of the series.
GenG were 5k above KT when Chovy decided to Zhonya and throw game away
You can never bet against giving a chance to Smolder comp
T1 has won several games from down 10 K gold it's not a auto win in league .
As if T1 isn't well known for coming back from games down 10k+ gold. Losing G5 was absolute still in the cards.
Yeah it's didn't really matters, i think narrator is trying to sell faker speech impact but the game was secured really early
EDG lost with a 9K gold lead in 2017. Never assume the game is over
Pretty much, it's why it's a minute and a bit of glazing for literally saying "calm down we're good"
Damn T1 fans mad not everyone is blowing their idol for something that is literally so common in any sports team.
Then why did Doran lose with GenG internationally multiple times? Just admit there was an impact
Video source?
LCK global yt channel. Title: Voices of the Rift
Doran probably hates this lol, I remember after the series in his first stream back he said that he wasn't nervous lol.
wtf was he thinking with that 1v5 Camille tower dive then??
like ......what? all 5 of them are there, he knows that. no minions under tower, team not nearby...... everyone at 100% hp???
He got called to look for an engage so he did. He may have been a bit too hasty about it, but he did what was instructed.
look for =/= run straight through tower 1v5
he doesn’t get to talk after engaging like this, he better fucking unleash this year this series almost killed me
"Woah Doran you bad af lmao, uninstall rn please"
With those reassuring words, Faker once again lead T1 to the win
Gotta milk them faker clips
you can't milk those!
Guys I love T1 but did we not have enough of the same things repeated? 😭😭😭
So, wtf are the other teams doing? Like, literally, their players are in vacation mode for 4 months? Not even a fucking sign of life from them.
It's intentional on T1's part. They've done more media events in the last 2 months than every other team on the planet put together. I don't even think that's an exaggeration. Other teams just have roster announcements and that's about it. Meanwhile Faker hosted a fan meet today on new years eve so that's going to be another round of posts coming up.
Meanwhile, Arnold's interview on Chovy (few days ago with french press): he doesn't like fan meets, so we don't do them, then he complains about geng not having any profit while buying the MOST EXPENSIVE franchise player from each org (chovy from DRX/HLE, canyon DK, kiin KT/freecs) I can't.
Canyon wasn't the most expensive from DK and Kiin wasn't from KT
I mean, sure, but Canyon wasn't exactly cheap. He took a paycut to join geng because they can't actually afford his 100% price. Canyon, showmaker were both franchise players on DK.
The interview.
we agree: It sucks that Canyon signed for a lot less than he deserved. He could have had better offers, for sure. I’m not going to say from where, you guys can figure that out.https://www.reddit.com/r/GenG_Esports_LoL/comments/1px5q8z/geng_ceo_arnold_on_the_sustainability_of_league/Kiin was literally bought from 2023 KT after KT's legendary summer split. Going 18-1 or something.
GenG bought Kiin and Lehends from that KT team.
Does it still count as buying them from KT if they were free agents?
Meh, there’s nothing much else going on right now in that window between worlds and the start of league splits. I’d rather have content than none at all.
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No sorry, this sub will be 50% recycled t1 stories until morale improves.
ok so there you have it reddit , the god himself says the camille 420 noscope base dive was an int.
End of the debate.
Doran was 100% inting game 5 with completely unnecessary plays while they had a massive lead. I'm not sure how much faker calmed his nerves versus T1 collectively just playing well around a few bad ints of his.
Example
Inting means intentionally trying to lose the match, was that the case? If so then this is a huge problem and must be dealt with. Missplayers are pretty natural on the other hand, so I wonder whether inting is the correct word or not
Are you new to league or language? Phrases can have multiple meanings. Inting can be literal intentional feeding or plays which are so egregious that it looks like they aren't trying to win. This sub sometimes lmao.
Was he not trying to win?
I am not new to the language per se, rather I am more worried about our definitions. Our definitions of inting was different so I wanted to settle it out
He was inting later in the game, after he (together with oner) worked towards such a sizable lead in the top lane that the inting barely mattered anymore.
After oner* got doran a lead topside.
Nah, they both did.
It was definitely just Oners doing. As soon as Oner stopped camping doran threw his leads away constantly.
You have an unhealthy obsession with posting these articles. Across multiple permabanned accounts.
You know they're dodging bans? Just report them then
Why do I feel I hear that announcer in everything korean
Doran winning worlds with that performance while some legends like Khan and Smeb never won, wild lol
Team sport.
Phew, was wondering where the Faker content had been in the last two days
WTF are the other teams doing? Literally a chance to market themselves and not a single post or tweet for fan meet or any kind of event during the off-season.
tbf we have been hearing this quote since the day of the finals
exactly, what the fuck are the other teams DOING? There's no new fucking content from anyone but T1. Like LPL and Geng, there's the Demacia Cup, sure, but what about LCS and LEC?
Other teams would get content too if they actually won. How about you actually do something about it instead of being sarcastic?
I mean if they weren't 10k ahead Doran would be the most flamed person in LoL history rn 😂
GO OUT THERE AND MAKE IT ABOUT YOU!