Tim seemed like he was such an absolute dumbass. For all Ted’s faults, he was a literal fucking genius so just seems like a crazy friendship— like Stephen Hawking hanging out with someone like Epstein…oh wait.
This most recent update episode reminded me of something I did as a kid. My dad’s a programmer and owns his own small tech business. I remember seeing the Unsolved Mysteries segment on the Unabomber when I was like 8 or so, and I promptly wrote a letter to give to my dad with the list of what to look out for.
Even though my dad was very much small fries when it came to the tech industry, I was so scared he was gonna get a random bomb in a box to his office one day. I should ask him if he still has that letter. If he does and knows where it is, I’ll see if he can scan it and email it to me. That would be a gem of a find.
Kaczynski was a straight up racist, misogynist and homophobe and these things are neither hard to not find in his self-published works, or something you can’t find enviromentalist and+or anti-tech writers who don’t base their ideology on those types of principles.
I have some personal sympathy for him as a product of his personal experiences, but I have no patience for people who a t like his only fault was ”being too early with the right ideas”
Yeah his manifesto is full of ridiculous bullshit. It’s easy to agree with some of his environmentalist points, but the next sentence will be ranting about how women shouldn’t be allowed to make decisions for themselves.
its really horrifying to me how many people in this thread are just glossing over all of that
even if you're okay with bombing people (which is fucked), a great deal of his manifesto was just him blaming everything on "political correctness", lgbt activism and feminism. maybe we don't need to act like he was right all along lol
People do the same shit to Heemeyer who almost by a matter of luck didn’t kill a bunch of innocent civilians. All because he was angry that his god given right to dump a bunch of literal human shit on his land was denied. A problem which took the new owners 24 hours to resolve.
Alternate Universe Ted K: "Yeah, I was in a really dark place after dropping out of college. But, I ended up going to a group therapy session, joined a green peace group, and really found a sense of community. Now I help young men and women who are similarly disillusioned, as I was. I tell ya, it's been a wonderful ride!"
I mean…he deserves to be villainized even if he was right about aspects of technology going south. Mailing bombs that kill and maim people tends to get you on a few shit lists, and deservedly so.
He was right about some things at least
Yeah. His politics were just absolute horse shit. Like most Americans, unfortunately.
I don't think "most Americans" would become friends with Timothy McVeigh though, yanno?
Tim seemed like he was such an absolute dumbass. For all Ted’s faults, he was a literal fucking genius so just seems like a crazy friendship— like Stephen Hawking hanging out with someone like Epstein…oh wait.
This most recent update episode reminded me of something I did as a kid. My dad’s a programmer and owns his own small tech business. I remember seeing the Unsolved Mysteries segment on the Unabomber when I was like 8 or so, and I promptly wrote a letter to give to my dad with the list of what to look out for.
Even though my dad was very much small fries when it came to the tech industry, I was so scared he was gonna get a random bomb in a box to his office one day. I should ask him if he still has that letter. If he does and knows where it is, I’ll see if he can scan it and email it to me. That would be a gem of a find.
Kid logic: Worried about dad because Unabomber
Also kid logic : I should voice these concerns in a letter.
"You opened this, thus proving me right. Please listen closely Dad."
Oh, that’s so sweet. Please share if he’s able to find it.
He hasn’t texted me back yet, but tbf he’s 85. Probably dozing.
As he should! 85? Good for him!
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Kaczynski was a straight up racist, misogynist and homophobe and these things are neither hard to not find in his self-published works, or something you can’t find enviromentalist and+or anti-tech writers who don’t base their ideology on those types of principles.
I have some personal sympathy for him as a product of his personal experiences, but I have no patience for people who a t like his only fault was ”being too early with the right ideas”
Yeah his manifesto is full of ridiculous bullshit. It’s easy to agree with some of his environmentalist points, but the next sentence will be ranting about how women shouldn’t be allowed to make decisions for themselves.
He’s basically the king of the incels.
its really horrifying to me how many people in this thread are just glossing over all of that
even if you're okay with bombing people (which is fucked), a great deal of his manifesto was just him blaming everything on "political correctness", lgbt activism and feminism. maybe we don't need to act like he was right all along lol
They talk about his close friendship with TIMOTHY MCVEIGH in the episode!!! One absolutely, positively, does not have to "hand it to him"!!!
People do the same shit to Heemeyer who almost by a matter of luck didn’t kill a bunch of innocent civilians. All because he was angry that his god given right to dump a bunch of literal human shit on his land was denied. A problem which took the new owners 24 hours to resolve.
Not sure what you're talking about because I'm just a frog... Anyway the water was nice and minute ago but starting to get a bit too warm.
Hey! This one’s starting to notice!! Call the guards!
No one that voluntarily shits in a bucket is right about anything
Get outta here with this 1997 was 28 years ago shit. Wait… 😳
I was born in 1997 and it feels like yesterday to me
Yeah just a few years ago.
Never forget, our own government made Ted Kaczynski into the Unabomber.
The misogynistic racist?
Makes you wonder how he would have been if he'd gotten help. Or had never been part of those MK Ultra experiments.
oh the podcast guest he could have been 😭
Alternate Universe Ted K: "Yeah, I was in a really dark place after dropping out of college. But, I ended up going to a group therapy session, joined a green peace group, and really found a sense of community. Now I help young men and women who are similarly disillusioned, as I was. I tell ya, it's been a wonderful ride!"
And of course you conveniently leave out all the racist shit too
He was correct in diagnosing the illness, but incorrect in diagnosing the underlying cause.
He was never wrong. The unabomber is villainized, the average American has no clue who Eric Rudolph is. Tech had taken over, abortion is less legal.
I mean…he deserves to be villainized even if he was right about aspects of technology going south. Mailing bombs that kill and maim people tends to get you on a few shit lists, and deservedly so.
He was racist, homophobic, misogynistic piece of shit.
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yep, people love to gloss over this for some reason. i will never understand why.
Too bad the term " woke" wasn't coined yet. He would have loved that
I think a lot of people just assume he was a lefty because of his environmentalist and anti technology views.
which is why people should actually read his manifesto before cosigning it
I think he was wrong to send bombs to people.
He wasn’t wrong in his writing about technology. I agreed with much of that the first time I read it.
But he was wrong to kill people, and he also says some racist things in the manifesto IIRC.
I can't get over his manifesto being in Spotify as an audio book
I appreciate gold star warnings, but I've never not listened to an episode because of them.
Starting off with sounds of Ed eating is a goddamned human rights violation which should have come with a bevy of warnings.
He had a point
Him and Killdozer are both guys where you’re like “I approve of the message, but the messenger could use some work…”
A whole bunch of us knew back then, too. His methods were wrong, but he was right about a whole lot of things.
Ah yes, from his b*tching about tamagotchi than to ai killer bots now
Just like Edward Snowden: he was actually right all along lmao