Wikipedia entry about Dilawar. It’s quite a horrific story. He was hung in chains by his wrists from the ceiling. His legs were beaten to a pulp and would have had to be amputated if he had lived.
Dilawar and his passengers were arrested by militants working on behalf of Jan Baz Khan and were suspected of shooting rockets at an American base. The Americans later concluded Jan Baz Khan had attacked the base himself and arrested innocent people to gain favor with the authorities.
Read his Wikipedia page and his legs were beaten so badly that they’d been pulpified and even if he had survived they would’ve had to have been amputated
How the hell do you know what Chinese and Russian military officials get up to. Unlike in those countries the press probably don’t suffer the same fate of exposing those crimes.
Not to mention all of the crimes that are public knowledge
Take the terrorists from last years large terror attack on russia. They beat the shit out of the terrorists. Apparently popped one of their eyes. Fed one of there ears to an attacker and when one of them was wheeled into the courtroom he seemed completely out of it and looked very beaten.
Im not saying these guys didnt deserve it but its not hard to see what atrocities other countries commit if you look for it.
Take literally every hostage scenario in russia for another example
When terrorists took a Moscow theater hostage, the Russians pumped in gas to put everyone to sleep. The terrorists didn’t wake up handcuffed in a jail cell; they didn’t wake up at all. The Russians went and just shot them all in the head as they lay there unconscious and incapable of harming anyone. Many hostages died from the gas also.
Based on what metrics. Chinese treatment of muslims and Russian use of sketchy groups like the Wagner groups for indiscriminate raping and killing all across Africa. These are huge scales of operations and much more modern in history. Current Russian human rights abuses are 2nd to none.
I’d recommend looking up John kiriaku, he’s the whistleblower that exposed the CIAs torture program, It’s interesting info into the whole enhanced interrogation program
I watched a documentary that covered this case and other cases of torture in Guantanmo and Abu Ghraib. I watched it only once but it's burned in my memory forever. I lost complete faith in America being the good guys at that point. It all was state sanctioned torture.
Vietnam was before I was born. I started giving my country the side-eye when I was a teenager, when we invaded Iraq over the WMD lie. I was about sixteen. I went around saying "we aren't going to find any WMDs, because there aren't any, and we are going to get suck there forever." Which turned out to be correct.
Dilawar’s taxi passengers were sent to Guantanamo. I have read that two were released after almost a year with charges dropped but am not sure what happened to the third. I hope he’s not still there.
Hijacking your comment to drop the name of the documentary: it is called Taxi to the Darkside and it’s an amazing, but extremely hard to watch piece of work. I recommend it to anyone who is willing to watch it.
I'm making a big sign for our yard that says ANTIFASCIST, but with the antifa part a different color. Yes, I'm in the US, and can confirm that we are currently a fascist state.
I am from Europe and I know fascism well. The fact that they're implementing AI isn't in contrast with the "return to traditional values". What do you think "make america great again" means? Is the rejection of anything that they do not deem worthy, the rejection of the modern way of life. Think of all the "woke" measures they're eliminating.
AI is made in the US, by US companies that are VERY close to the government so of course they'll put it in everything. Because it's created and controlled by them and their friends. You chose the worst example, AI for Trump is the manifestation of American superiority in tech over the rest of the world, it's a power display.
Especially when they tamper with it so that it only says whatever they want it to say, see Grok and Musk's obsession with making it "not woke".
Fascism is also when only one party or authoritarian rules you have more political parties? Also I wrote my comment in a nice way, if you can’t have a civil conversation you shouldn’t discuss this topic. I am not saying there isn’t obvious internal tension between parties in the US, I’m not saying trump isn’t showing authoritian traits. But this isn’t Mussolini Italy over again as of yet atleast.
Respectfully, you shouldn't discuss this topic like you're an authority if you're just going off "what I've seen on the internet" from outside of the country.
Never forget Khalid El-Masri, a German citizen who was wrongly rendered to Afghanistan by the CIA, where he was held in a black site, interrogated, beaten, sodomized, and tortured, all without informing the German government.
When he was finally "released", he was dumped on a rural road in Albania, at night, without funds or transport, then faced a long legal battle for justice in the American courts, who ultimately declined to hear his case. The European Court of Human Rights heard his case and ruled against the CIA, but he was awarded just €60K in compensation
I think the case was actually against the country of Macedonia, who kidnapped him and turned him over to the CIA. That's my understanding from his Wikipedia entry anyway, that it was Macedonia that was ordered to pay him compensation.
You're right, but only because the US District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia refused to hear his case, followed by the US Supreme Court, on the grounds that hearing the case could risk disclosing national security information. They accepted they'd "made a mistake" in rendering him and gave him just an apology
Wikipedia entry about Dilawar. It’s quite a horrific story. He was hung in chains by his wrists from the ceiling. His legs were beaten to a pulp and would have had to be amputated if he had lived.
Dilawar and his passengers were arrested by militants working on behalf of Jan Baz Khan and were suspected of shooting rockets at an American base. The Americans later concluded Jan Baz Khan had attacked the base himself and arrested innocent people to gain favor with the authorities.
My god
Yep. Those I evolved should've been charged for that.
Homegrown terrorists protected by the government.
Read his Wikipedia page and his legs were beaten so badly that they’d been pulpified and even if he had survived they would’ve had to have been amputated
It's absolutely incredible how the US gets away with the war crimes/human rights violations it commits.
Yes. This poor guy was just trying to make a living. And his taxi passengers just wanted to visit their families for Eid.
That’s what happens when you been the big bully of the world for so long everybody scared of you
And then they praise their veterans. Fucked up country
Yet another reason to not be proud of my country.
And it's ramping up at the moment
What country doesn’t ?
Only one: Germany
Rwanda also. And Serbia.
Good points
No country can compare to the crimes America has committed fighting the “war on terror”. In the modern age at the very least
None. Not China. Not Russia.
/s for those that cant figure out context
Unfortunately you guys are just misinformed or uninformed. The things Russia and China do pale in comparison to the USA.
How the hell do you know what Chinese and Russian military officials get up to. Unlike in those countries the press probably don’t suffer the same fate of exposing those crimes. Not to mention all of the crimes that are public knowledge
Take the terrorists from last years large terror attack on russia. They beat the shit out of the terrorists. Apparently popped one of their eyes. Fed one of there ears to an attacker and when one of them was wheeled into the courtroom he seemed completely out of it and looked very beaten.
Im not saying these guys didnt deserve it but its not hard to see what atrocities other countries commit if you look for it.
Take literally every hostage scenario in russia for another example
When terrorists took a Moscow theater hostage, the Russians pumped in gas to put everyone to sleep. The terrorists didn’t wake up handcuffed in a jail cell; they didn’t wake up at all. The Russians went and just shot them all in the head as they lay there unconscious and incapable of harming anyone. Many hostages died from the gas also.
Nope. Not saying they don’t also commit crimes, but the types of violence and scale of violence the US commits is second to none
Dude, you are categorically wrong about this.
Based on what metrics. Chinese treatment of muslims and Russian use of sketchy groups like the Wagner groups for indiscriminate raping and killing all across Africa. These are huge scales of operations and much more modern in history. Current Russian human rights abuses are 2nd to none.
They support it by looking away. But sure, U.S. bad. LOL!
I’d recommend looking up John kiriaku, he’s the whistleblower that exposed the CIAs torture program, It’s interesting info into the whole enhanced interrogation program
I watched a documentary that covered this case and other cases of torture in Guantanmo and Abu Ghraib. I watched it only once but it's burned in my memory forever. I lost complete faith in America being the good guys at that point. It all was state sanctioned torture.
After Vietnam, why would anyone ever think the US is a "good guy" is beyond me. It's an imperialist bully. Nothing more.
Vietnam was before I was born. I started giving my country the side-eye when I was a teenager, when we invaded Iraq over the WMD lie. I was about sixteen. I went around saying "we aren't going to find any WMDs, because there aren't any, and we are going to get suck there forever." Which turned out to be correct.
Dilawar’s taxi passengers were sent to Guantanamo. I have read that two were released after almost a year with charges dropped but am not sure what happened to the third. I hope he’s not still there.
Hijacking your comment to drop the name of the documentary: it is called Taxi to the Darkside and it’s an amazing, but extremely hard to watch piece of work. I recommend it to anyone who is willing to watch it.
Poor guy looks petrified. Yet another innocent victim of the “war on terror” I suppose :(
America is a fascist state.
Learn to spell that word but yes
Omg. It's fixed now
Misusing this word just makes it the equivalent of a buzzword that loses its meaning.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ur-Fascism
there's a checklist if you need one
I'm making a big sign for our yard that says ANTIFASCIST, but with the antifa part a different color. Yes, I'm in the US, and can confirm that we are currently a fascist state.
Im not even American, and from what I’ve seen on the internet, they don’t even check half of this.
For example the one with no new learning, sticking to tradition Or the one with not modernizing, they legit have implemented ai into everything.
That doesn’t take away from all the fucked up things they’ve done, and other countries have done too.
But I think today we’re so fast to throw around words like “nazi” “fascist” these are big words, especially “nazi”.
Hope we all find peace with eachother soon
Best regards from Europe
I am from Europe and I know fascism well. The fact that they're implementing AI isn't in contrast with the "return to traditional values". What do you think "make america great again" means? Is the rejection of anything that they do not deem worthy, the rejection of the modern way of life. Think of all the "woke" measures they're eliminating.
AI is made in the US, by US companies that are VERY close to the government so of course they'll put it in everything. Because it's created and controlled by them and their friends. You chose the worst example, AI for Trump is the manifestation of American superiority in tech over the rest of the world, it's a power display.
Especially when they tamper with it so that it only says whatever they want it to say, see Grok and Musk's obsession with making it "not woke".
I'm American and experiencing this in real life, so I can confidently say you're full of shit.
Fascism is also when only one party or authoritarian rules you have more political parties? Also I wrote my comment in a nice way, if you can’t have a civil conversation you shouldn’t discuss this topic. I am not saying there isn’t obvious internal tension between parties in the US, I’m not saying trump isn’t showing authoritian traits. But this isn’t Mussolini Italy over again as of yet atleast.
Respectfully, you shouldn't discuss this topic like you're an authority if you're just going off "what I've seen on the internet" from outside of the country.
Okay so unless you live inside a specific country you are not allowed to give your perspective on it? Got it
If your perspective is "let me tell you about the political climate in the country where you currently live" then nah, you can keep it
Never forget Khalid El-Masri, a German citizen who was wrongly rendered to Afghanistan by the CIA, where he was held in a black site, interrogated, beaten, sodomized, and tortured, all without informing the German government.
When he was finally "released", he was dumped on a rural road in Albania, at night, without funds or transport, then faced a long legal battle for justice in the American courts, who ultimately declined to hear his case. The European Court of Human Rights heard his case and ruled against the CIA, but he was awarded just €60K in compensation
I think the case was actually against the country of Macedonia, who kidnapped him and turned him over to the CIA. That's my understanding from his Wikipedia entry anyway, that it was Macedonia that was ordered to pay him compensation.
You're right, but only because the US District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia refused to hear his case, followed by the US Supreme Court, on the grounds that hearing the case could risk disclosing national security information. They accepted they'd "made a mistake" in rendering him and gave him just an apology
I can't believe that I was ever ignorant enough to believe that America was the good guy.
Ahh, America. I heard they love killing their own children too while in school.
america really is a shining city on the hill huh. what a shithole of a country
Nobody suffered any consequences because the USA is a world-historic evil empire.
America and isreal make the rules now i guess.
It's been like that since pretty much the end of WW2. But it's definitely the truth.
It’s more like Geneva suggestions, (except like 90% of cases go unpunished or barley punished at all)
Yeah United States
America is evil.
Taxi to the darkside
Was looking for this comment. Great documentary.
“In subsequent interrogations, Parkhudin heard Dilawar being beaten and calling for his mother.”
the us government doing something shady? nah, that could never happen because we are the good guys!