Genuine question aren't they just Jpop and should be in the Jpop sub? it looks like their label is in Japan as well so they're not even kpop adjacent like say Niziu who are under a Korean company
I believe the mods did a poll a while back and the community voted for the "let the community decide whats relevant option", i.e if there aren't enough people who think its relevant it won't get many upvotes and won't ever appear at the top of results.
I feel like this conversation always ends up devolving into unproductive hair splitting and this sub's general stance of "if a group is popular with kpop fans, they're relevant" tends to be the most reasonable approach.
IMO Hana's sound has more kpop than jpop DNA, not to mention the jpop sub is a ghost town so disallowing Japanese groups basically just kills people's access to keep up with groups they might be interested in.
There's always a comment like this on every XG post too and the idea that groups like Hana or XG wouldn't be relevant to the interests of kpop fans just seems a little baffling to me.
So in that case can we promote Kpop groups in Jpop related subs? Like say AKB48 subs, Johnny & Associates etc.? Just curious where that ends because I’m pretty sure if we started posting anything Kpop related to Jpop subs all hell will break lose, an example I’ve once posted a Sakura related post in an AKB sub but got downvoted and was told by some “it doesn’t belong here”.
Edit : I’m active in an AKB sub so this just makes me curious if that generosity goes both ways or is it just the case with Kpop subs
Also regardless I feel like this doesn’t even need to be mentioned as it’s self-explanatory but to answer your point about being “baffled” isn’t that why this sub is called Kpop? It’s in the name of the sub itself, if everyone just post anything out of topic then what’s even the point of having a “Kpop” sub?
I was sure gonna say similar. I have a hard time imagining BTS, Blackpink, or Lesserafim teaser pics for a Korean or English language album being welcomed in a Jpop sub regardless of those group's massive popularity in Japan or with Jpop fans. Is Say My Name getting posted there because of Hitomi's connection to the 48 groups lol?
Sakura and Hitomi related stuff are barely even accepted (get downvoted a lot or don’t get as much engagement) in the AKB subs let alone stuff related to promoting their current groups Le Sserafim and SayMyName. Even though they have a “graduated” tag there for former members some people will comment saying “it doesn’t belong here”.
I remember a post about Sakura, Sasshi(her senior), Kazuha and two ILLIT members working together on a project and there’s a comment implying that it isn’t accepted there even though there’s a “graduated” tag AND there are two former members mentioned in the post. The most ironic thing is that other former members get posted there a lot, their solo works and their new groups (if they joined a new group) also get posted there yet the posts don’t receive any push back for it compared to Sakura and Hitomi.
The jpop sub is pretty dead so half of jpop in general doesn’t get posted there so I wouldn’t worry too much about wether say my name gets posted there
That's not a fair comparison in the slightest though.
Posting a group that makes music that sounds nothing like Jpop to a Jpop sub is not the same as posting a group that does sound like kpop to a kpop sub.
Most jpop fans I've met are more likely to resonate with QWER than any kpop adjacent Japanese group because it's the sound they listen to.
The worst part of these discussions is that everyone just acts likely the musical differences between the two genres just don't exist.
(I see the mods consider it okay and whether this specific group is posted or not isn't really an issue for me, just responding for debate's sake)
I understand the sound thing to an small extent, but I assumed the subreddit was about "K-pop industry" stuff, because as a sound K-Pop tends to sound like anything. QWER as you mentioned is K-Pop, just as Illit, Blackpink, Shin Yong Jae, or Taeyeon. All totally different sounds.
Will they promote on Korean shows? (Girlset, XG, Katseye, NiziU) Intention to perform Korean music?(NiziU) Korean label?(Girlset) Korean based subsidiary label?(Katseye, NiziU, GGP(?)) For the record, I don't consider XG K-Pop at all and only vaguely related due to having promoted in Korea at the start.
I wouldn't expect to see No Na (Indonesian group) posted here because of sound or tight performance choreography regardless of how talented they are. If sound and style inspiration is the only criteria for what is posted, this subreddit should be absolutely FLOODED with the amounts of K-Pop inspired Filipino, Vietnamese, and other Southeast Asian groups I've seen come down my Youtube algorithm because they'd be just as related to K-Pop as this group.
To reiterate, this discussion has been occurring for years and the mods have long settled on the stance that artists allowed here aren't determined by how Korean they are through any metric whatsoever because as you've just displayed in your post, there are so many different measures of how "kpop" a group is and nobody is ever going to agree where to draw that line.
All a group needs to be considered relevant to r/kpop is a following among kpop fans. That's it. If a group appeals enough to kpop fans to have interest among the users of this subreddit, they are welcome.
The "Koreanness" debate is a needlessly negative waste of time, we're here to talk about music we like. And as kpop fans we like music that sounds like kpop.
And I personally just think it would be really cool if we could ever have a single "kpop adjacent" post on this forum without the comment section getting bogged down with gatekeeping.
Edit: also since you brought up No Na, they're actually an excellent counter example, because musically there's nothing remotely kpop about their sound. No Na's songs are 100% written in the western tradition, as opposed to groups like Hana and XG who mostly follow the kpop formula much more closely than western pop or jpop.
I was gonna say "if anything goes, then so be it" and leave it until the edit. The argument can't be both "as long as K-Pop fans like or resonate with it, it's fine" and then "but No Na's style isn't K-Pop enough". I personally don't think No Na's Shoot and Fifty Fifty's Cupid or even SOS would be out of place on the same playlist, and I don't see a performance difference between No Na or a Kiss of Life other than the lack of rap judging from their choreo videos, as well as the fact that we stated K-Pop sounds like anything.
If relation to the Korean music industry doesn't matter and only the sound or style does, then at that point everything counts due to the nature of K-Pop. If Katseye's connection to K-Pop is irrelevant to them being posted here, then Say Now's Supermarket fits here about as well as Gnarly. If Jackson's connection to K-Pop is irrelevant to his being posted, then what's stopping the rest of the C-Pop scene from being posted in the K-Pop subreddit?
If the subreddit's rules allow it, that's that, and leaves a door that should be open to more than just East Asian/Japanese groups.
Hell would break loose but mostly because Japanese music fans have issues with KPOP. It’s been that way for 15+ years now, and as an active member of both for longer than that, it has gone a bit better but still pretty apparent. Even back then j music fans had a holier than thou attitude towards KPOP and KPOP fans.
Legitimately though, there is concern if it was KPOP centered those posts would get upvoted by fans a lot who don’t participate in the rest, and actual discussions or posts would be missed. That’s not a huge issue here.
J-music fan here, the issue is with kpop fans (mostly westerners) bringing in their weird ideas about what pop music and idols should be. Case in point: ME:I member being fired from the group for dating, which is pretty normal in jpop and no one gives a shit within Japanese music spaces but kpop fans think j-companies and fans are toxic etc. someone in a kpop sub called me a bootlicker for merely explaining the situation, and even OP said that anyone who supports the dating bans is a red flag so….
Yeah, don’t bring in your weird Western kpop ideas lmao and you’ll be fine in jpop spaces
I’ve been a j music fan much longer than a kpop fan, so most of my life. People find the dating ban odd isn’t really a “western kpop idea”. People in Asia also find it weird but if they’re not idols they don’t care.
People can understand there is a dating ban and why it’s there while also criticizing it.
People were also pointing out the element of sexism when it comes to dating bans. Shoesei was pretty much put on hiatus while Shizuku is now gone from the group. This is just one example but there have been ones in the last as well.
Furthermore, that still wasn’t what a lot of the fighting between international kpop and jpop fans was anyway, as many agree people shouldn’t have to apologize or have repercussions for dating.
The people I know who are in Japan and who attend idol lives don’t really care if any idol gets fired for dating, especially when it comes to tsunagari. It’s more or less accepted as that’s how things are (at least with idols specifically). I wouldn’t really care if non-idols have dating bans or not.
Edit: dating bans for j-idols are basically a necessary evil
For the people downvoting me - if you want to get into jpop, you need to actually listen to the people on the ground, who live in Japan and attend idol lives regularly. You can’t just come in with your foreign expectations on how things are in jpop. You need to interact with people who actually know wtf they’re talking about.
Is this group popular in Kpop communities tho? Because it seems to me that they’re still quite unknown/new so how could they be “popular in Kpop communities”?. Also this isn’t even about what “musically fits” in the Kpop sphere because a lot of music do, music from the West also fits the Kpop sphere so should we start posting them too here? It’s called Kpop not “what musically fits in the Kpop sphere”.
I’m just trying to understand the logic here and where that line ends
It's not a meticulously governed community with a founding constitution and set of rules that must be followed.
Does it really matter? Are you itching to post content that might not fit here? Most likely you're not, so just go along for the ride. But maybe you are, in which case there is literally no punishment for posting something that doesn't actually belong here. The post would get removed, the end.
I mean you can just search HANA on this sub to get an idea of their popularity.
But yeah they’re relatively popular on here. They sit on the 100 upvote markers which isn’t massive but bigger than nugu kpop groups here
For what it’s worth on your part if a mod on a jpop sub told me that sakura’s content wasn’t appropriate I would argue that case with them (as I have done when I posted akb content with hitomi on this sub)
In terms of this sub the mods have long worked on the premise that if there’s a valid connection to the kpop industry, they’re valid on this sub. If you get called up on that by a mod you can explain it, if they allow it it’s fine. Most of the time mods are pretty knowledgeable on this subject so it doesn’t become a problem
The logic is that community concensus decides. If you want to start posting western groups go ahead, I'm struggling to think of any that would fit that aren't already welcome here though.
I mean… I listen to HANA 🫠 I don’t have beef with them being posted here bc as OP mentioned there is some overlap with the k-pop world with how this group is produced, who they’re produced by, how they’re marketed, and who they’re marketed to, etc.
Didn’t say it was. I was just expressing an opinion and curiosity. Anti intellectualism much? There’s actually a thought provoking discussion going here yet you say “it’s not that deep”, very dismissive and gaslighting expression. Having a discussion doesn’t mean it’s “deep” whatever that means, this is why people can’t have a long intellectual peaceful discussion nowadays.
Regardless am I supposed to feel offended or bad by that? Oh wow I’m having a discussion about a topic / hobby of mine apparently that isn’t allowed or else it’s seen as “deep” and that’s supposed to be lame
The simplest thing is that likely no, posts about kpop in AKB48 sub or jpop subreddit or whatever else jpop-oriented subreddit would not be allowed. At best, someone like myself (not a mod, just a user of those subs) would quickly call it out and ask you why it’s relevant to the sub.
Whatever this kpop sub wants to do with jpop posts has nothing to do with what jpop subs do with kpop posts.
I might be a little biased but I hope the mods are okay with groups like HANA and Me:I and IS:SUE being posted in this subreddit because if they were only posted in the Jpop subreddit they’d basically get no exposure.
edit: u/jwookie30 I can see you sent me a reply but I think it might have been automodded. To answer the part of the question I can see, no I don’t think the jpop subreddit would be forgiving about kpop being posted on their sub. A lot of western/reddit Jpop enjoyers seem to have a stick up their ass so they’d get mad about it.
I just said something along the lines of “that’s absolutely fine and valid to want that for the groups you follow. I was just curious about whether or not that generosity and grace goes both ways because I have personally experienced and see it countless of times how that’s not usually the case. Like I said I once posted about Sakura on an AKB sub as she was a former member there yet it was met with some negativity on the other hand this post is met with positivity though it’s somewhat a similar situation to my post so I wanted to start a convo why that is the case among with other things”
Sorry I saw your reply so I sent you a reply but I deleted it seeing as it wasn’t a reply to me.
Nah, hana are fine here. Chanmina, who is active in Korea, is their main producer and was the creator of the group so this group is her work just as much as her own music is. Further to the point they have a former YG and an xgalx trainee and they’re an offshoot to produce 101 Japan due to momoka having competed there
They also very much promote around kpop idols so regardless of peoples feelings on them being jpop or kpop adjacent they’d end up on this sub in the end so I really don’t think it’s that deep about promoting their content here too
Finally BMSG feels like it’s starting a more global push to the company and HANA has a Korean remember so a Korea debut is pretty much locked in on my bingo card at some point
I really am so happy for Momoka. I will always root extra hard for the girls who make it all the way to the finals of survival shows but don’t make it into the debut line-up.
Rino was my #1, and Momoka was my #2, so I was sad neither made the final lineup at the time. However, I think both are now in the perfect situation for them with IS:SUE and HANA, so it all worked out in the end. There was a lot of talent on Produce 101, and I'm thrilled so many girls outside of the final lineup have debuted in other groups.
This question has been answered already in the comments but for future reference this sub is heavily moderated and mods remove posts. If you see something on here that’s been here for more than an hour, chances are it’s fine so don’t worry
Genuine question aren't they just Jpop and should be in the Jpop sub? it looks like their label is in Japan as well so they're not even kpop adjacent like say Niziu who are under a Korean company
I believe the mods did a poll a while back and the community voted for the "let the community decide whats relevant option", i.e if there aren't enough people who think its relevant it won't get many upvotes and won't ever appear at the top of results.
I feel like this conversation always ends up devolving into unproductive hair splitting and this sub's general stance of "if a group is popular with kpop fans, they're relevant" tends to be the most reasonable approach.
IMO Hana's sound has more kpop than jpop DNA, not to mention the jpop sub is a ghost town so disallowing Japanese groups basically just kills people's access to keep up with groups they might be interested in.
There's always a comment like this on every XG post too and the idea that groups like Hana or XG wouldn't be relevant to the interests of kpop fans just seems a little baffling to me.
So in that case can we promote Kpop groups in Jpop related subs? Like say AKB48 subs, Johnny & Associates etc.? Just curious where that ends because I’m pretty sure if we started posting anything Kpop related to Jpop subs all hell will break lose, an example I’ve once posted a Sakura related post in an AKB sub but got downvoted and was told by some “it doesn’t belong here”.
Edit : I’m active in an AKB sub so this just makes me curious if that generosity goes both ways or is it just the case with Kpop subs
Also regardless I feel like this doesn’t even need to be mentioned as it’s self-explanatory but to answer your point about being “baffled” isn’t that why this sub is called Kpop? It’s in the name of the sub itself, if everyone just post anything out of topic then what’s even the point of having a “Kpop” sub?
I was sure gonna say similar. I have a hard time imagining BTS, Blackpink, or Lesserafim teaser pics for a Korean or English language album being welcomed in a Jpop sub regardless of those group's massive popularity in Japan or with Jpop fans. Is Say My Name getting posted there because of Hitomi's connection to the 48 groups lol?
Sakura and Hitomi related stuff are barely even accepted (get downvoted a lot or don’t get as much engagement) in the AKB subs let alone stuff related to promoting their current groups Le Sserafim and SayMyName. Even though they have a “graduated” tag there for former members some people will comment saying “it doesn’t belong here”.
I remember a post about Sakura, Sasshi(her senior), Kazuha and two ILLIT members working together on a project and there’s a comment implying that it isn’t accepted there even though there’s a “graduated” tag AND there are two former members mentioned in the post. The most ironic thing is that other former members get posted there a lot, their solo works and their new groups (if they joined a new group) also get posted there yet the posts don’t receive any push back for it compared to Sakura and Hitomi.
The jpop sub is pretty dead so half of jpop in general doesn’t get posted there so I wouldn’t worry too much about wether say my name gets posted there
FWIW - I’d say I’m deep into international jpop communities, and none of us really use the jpop subreddit. Jpop is more of a discord thing.
That's not a fair comparison in the slightest though.
Posting a group that makes music that sounds nothing like Jpop to a Jpop sub is not the same as posting a group that does sound like kpop to a kpop sub.
Most jpop fans I've met are more likely to resonate with QWER than any kpop adjacent Japanese group because it's the sound they listen to.
The worst part of these discussions is that everyone just acts likely the musical differences between the two genres just don't exist.
(I see the mods consider it okay and whether this specific group is posted or not isn't really an issue for me, just responding for debate's sake)
I understand the sound thing to an small extent, but I assumed the subreddit was about "K-pop industry" stuff, because as a sound K-Pop tends to sound like anything. QWER as you mentioned is K-Pop, just as Illit, Blackpink, Shin Yong Jae, or Taeyeon. All totally different sounds.
Will they promote on Korean shows? (Girlset, XG, Katseye, NiziU) Intention to perform Korean music?(NiziU) Korean label?(Girlset) Korean based subsidiary label?(Katseye, NiziU, GGP(?)) For the record, I don't consider XG K-Pop at all and only vaguely related due to having promoted in Korea at the start.
I wouldn't expect to see No Na (Indonesian group) posted here because of sound or tight performance choreography regardless of how talented they are. If sound and style inspiration is the only criteria for what is posted, this subreddit should be absolutely FLOODED with the amounts of K-Pop inspired Filipino, Vietnamese, and other Southeast Asian groups I've seen come down my Youtube algorithm because they'd be just as related to K-Pop as this group.
To reiterate, this discussion has been occurring for years and the mods have long settled on the stance that artists allowed here aren't determined by how Korean they are through any metric whatsoever because as you've just displayed in your post, there are so many different measures of how "kpop" a group is and nobody is ever going to agree where to draw that line.
All a group needs to be considered relevant to r/kpop is a following among kpop fans. That's it. If a group appeals enough to kpop fans to have interest among the users of this subreddit, they are welcome.
The "Koreanness" debate is a needlessly negative waste of time, we're here to talk about music we like. And as kpop fans we like music that sounds like kpop.
And I personally just think it would be really cool if we could ever have a single "kpop adjacent" post on this forum without the comment section getting bogged down with gatekeeping.
Edit: also since you brought up No Na, they're actually an excellent counter example, because musically there's nothing remotely kpop about their sound. No Na's songs are 100% written in the western tradition, as opposed to groups like Hana and XG who mostly follow the kpop formula much more closely than western pop or jpop.
I was gonna say "if anything goes, then so be it" and leave it until the edit. The argument can't be both "as long as K-Pop fans like or resonate with it, it's fine" and then "but No Na's style isn't K-Pop enough". I personally don't think No Na's Shoot and Fifty Fifty's Cupid or even SOS would be out of place on the same playlist, and I don't see a performance difference between No Na or a Kiss of Life other than the lack of rap judging from their choreo videos, as well as the fact that we stated K-Pop sounds like anything.
If relation to the Korean music industry doesn't matter and only the sound or style does, then at that point everything counts due to the nature of K-Pop. If Katseye's connection to K-Pop is irrelevant to them being posted here, then Say Now's Supermarket fits here about as well as Gnarly. If Jackson's connection to K-Pop is irrelevant to his being posted, then what's stopping the rest of the C-Pop scene from being posted in the K-Pop subreddit?
If the subreddit's rules allow it, that's that, and leaves a door that should be open to more than just East Asian/Japanese groups.
Hell would break loose but mostly because Japanese music fans have issues with KPOP. It’s been that way for 15+ years now, and as an active member of both for longer than that, it has gone a bit better but still pretty apparent. Even back then j music fans had a holier than thou attitude towards KPOP and KPOP fans.
Legitimately though, there is concern if it was KPOP centered those posts would get upvoted by fans a lot who don’t participate in the rest, and actual discussions or posts would be missed. That’s not a huge issue here.
J-music fan here, the issue is with kpop fans (mostly westerners) bringing in their weird ideas about what pop music and idols should be. Case in point: ME:I member being fired from the group for dating, which is pretty normal in jpop and no one gives a shit within Japanese music spaces but kpop fans think j-companies and fans are toxic etc. someone in a kpop sub called me a bootlicker for merely explaining the situation, and even OP said that anyone who supports the dating bans is a red flag so….
Yeah, don’t bring in your weird Western kpop ideas lmao and you’ll be fine in jpop spaces
I’ve been a j music fan much longer than a kpop fan, so most of my life. People find the dating ban odd isn’t really a “western kpop idea”. People in Asia also find it weird but if they’re not idols they don’t care.
People can understand there is a dating ban and why it’s there while also criticizing it.
People were also pointing out the element of sexism when it comes to dating bans. Shoesei was pretty much put on hiatus while Shizuku is now gone from the group. This is just one example but there have been ones in the last as well.
Furthermore, that still wasn’t what a lot of the fighting between international kpop and jpop fans was anyway, as many agree people shouldn’t have to apologize or have repercussions for dating.
The people I know who are in Japan and who attend idol lives don’t really care if any idol gets fired for dating, especially when it comes to tsunagari. It’s more or less accepted as that’s how things are (at least with idols specifically). I wouldn’t really care if non-idols have dating bans or not.
Edit: dating bans for j-idols are basically a necessary evil
For the people downvoting me - if you want to get into jpop, you need to actually listen to the people on the ground, who live in Japan and attend idol lives regularly. You can’t just come in with your foreign expectations on how things are in jpop. You need to interact with people who actually know wtf they’re talking about.
It's really not that difficult to grasp which groups fit musically within the kpop sphere and which don't.
Once again, the conversation is wholly unproductive. If a group is popular in kpop communities, they are relevant to kpop communities.
Is this group popular in Kpop communities tho? Because it seems to me that they’re still quite unknown/new so how could they be “popular in Kpop communities”?. Also this isn’t even about what “musically fits” in the Kpop sphere because a lot of music do, music from the West also fits the Kpop sphere so should we start posting them too here? It’s called Kpop not “what musically fits in the Kpop sphere”.
I’m just trying to understand the logic here and where that line ends
It's an Internet community.
It's not a meticulously governed community with a founding constitution and set of rules that must be followed.
Does it really matter? Are you itching to post content that might not fit here? Most likely you're not, so just go along for the ride. But maybe you are, in which case there is literally no punishment for posting something that doesn't actually belong here. The post would get removed, the end.
You're really overthinking this.
I mean you can just search HANA on this sub to get an idea of their popularity.
But yeah they’re relatively popular on here. They sit on the 100 upvote markers which isn’t massive but bigger than nugu kpop groups here
For what it’s worth on your part if a mod on a jpop sub told me that sakura’s content wasn’t appropriate I would argue that case with them (as I have done when I posted akb content with hitomi on this sub)
In terms of this sub the mods have long worked on the premise that if there’s a valid connection to the kpop industry, they’re valid on this sub. If you get called up on that by a mod you can explain it, if they allow it it’s fine. Most of the time mods are pretty knowledgeable on this subject so it doesn’t become a problem
The logic is that community concensus decides. If you want to start posting western groups go ahead, I'm struggling to think of any that would fit that aren't already welcome here though.
I mean… I listen to HANA 🫠 I don’t have beef with them being posted here bc as OP mentioned there is some overlap with the k-pop world with how this group is produced, who they’re produced by, how they’re marketed, and who they’re marketed to, etc.
It's literally not that deep
People are trying to have a mature discussion here.
Didn’t say it was. I was just expressing an opinion and curiosity. Anti intellectualism much? There’s actually a thought provoking discussion going here yet you say “it’s not that deep”, very dismissive and gaslighting expression. Having a discussion doesn’t mean it’s “deep” whatever that means, this is why people can’t have a long intellectual peaceful discussion nowadays.
Regardless am I supposed to feel offended or bad by that? Oh wow I’m having a discussion about a topic / hobby of mine apparently that isn’t allowed or else it’s seen as “deep” and that’s supposed to be lame
You're asking in this sub what would be accepted in other subs.
Ask those subs, because this is this sub.
The simplest thing is that likely no, posts about kpop in AKB48 sub or jpop subreddit or whatever else jpop-oriented subreddit would not be allowed. At best, someone like myself (not a mod, just a user of those subs) would quickly call it out and ask you why it’s relevant to the sub.
Whatever this kpop sub wants to do with jpop posts has nothing to do with what jpop subs do with kpop posts.
most fans of jpop use r/japanesemusic, which is very active
I might be a little biased but I hope the mods are okay with groups like HANA and Me:I and IS:SUE being posted in this subreddit because if they were only posted in the Jpop subreddit they’d basically get no exposure.
edit: u/jwookie30 I can see you sent me a reply but I think it might have been automodded. To answer the part of the question I can see, no I don’t think the jpop subreddit would be forgiving about kpop being posted on their sub. A lot of western/reddit Jpop enjoyers seem to have a stick up their ass so they’d get mad about it.
I just said something along the lines of “that’s absolutely fine and valid to want that for the groups you follow. I was just curious about whether or not that generosity and grace goes both ways because I have personally experienced and see it countless of times how that’s not usually the case. Like I said I once posted about Sakura on an AKB sub as she was a former member there yet it was met with some negativity on the other hand this post is met with positivity though it’s somewhat a similar situation to my post so I wanted to start a convo why that is the case among with other things”
Sorry I saw your reply so I sent you a reply but I deleted it seeing as it wasn’t a reply to me.
Nah, hana are fine here. Chanmina, who is active in Korea, is their main producer and was the creator of the group so this group is her work just as much as her own music is. Further to the point they have a former YG and an xgalx trainee and they’re an offshoot to produce 101 Japan due to momoka having competed there
They also very much promote around kpop idols so regardless of peoples feelings on them being jpop or kpop adjacent they’d end up on this sub in the end so I really don’t think it’s that deep about promoting their content here too
Finally BMSG feels like it’s starting a more global push to the company and HANA has a Korean remember so a Korea debut is pretty much locked in on my bingo card at some point
Will their album have new songs or just compile their singles into one?
Only one new song I think
It’s two new tracks, but yeah it’s mostly a compilation but that’s Japan for you
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Cold night releases before album releases so it’ll be two songs
11 song, 3 new
Not familiar with this group but omg they look so savage. Whatever this concept is, they're eating
Drop whatever you’re doing for the next hour or so and give them a listen and/or watch their MVs. They’re amazing.
Because it’s JPOP not KPOP.
Listen to Rose it’s 🔥
Blue Jeans and Rose are so good give them a listen
https://youtu.be/St6UOLqRAGY?si=jPea8cQN_TE1sb_O
https://youtu.be/078bfJD5TSw?si=MreCrT5wN7vW9v9w
https://youtu.be/rGPd0FyjQ9w?si=9twRGp6NAXPsvEb0
I really am so happy for Momoka. I will always root extra hard for the girls who make it all the way to the finals of survival shows but don’t make it into the debut line-up.
It makes me a bit sad for Kokona, but I hope she finds her success one day.
Rino was my #1, and Momoka was my #2, so I was sad neither made the final lineup at the time. However, I think both are now in the perfect situation for them with IS:SUE and HANA, so it all worked out in the end. There was a lot of talent on Produce 101, and I'm thrilled so many girls outside of the final lineup have debuted in other groups.
I thought they were JPOP? They’re cool af though
I think they're cool, but shouldn't they belong to JPOP subreddit unless they release a song in Korean?
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Well to satisfy you jisoo has been signing in Korean too https://x.com/annbluree/status/2004521242972627095?s=46&t=LZqX2YbOmFAPVmn8OODsCA
I love how unique they all look.
OKAY CHIKA!!!!
Their music has been amazing so I’m excited for this. They look great. I can’t wait to hear Jisoo’s voice in the new songs.
I still hope more KPOP companies do a survival show like NoNo Girls.
TMI several members are huge HUGE TRI.BE fans 😉
They look so sick and gorgeous! Also for the longest time, I thought HANA was a soloist lol
Hana means flower in Japanese, and first in Korean.
I didnt know Ahn Ji Young and Rei has join Hana 😱
in general, they can be considered a global group, since Jisoo is a Korean participant, Yuri is half-Filipina, and Naoko is half-Thai