Yeah because he can see around vehicle's to notice some jackass over driving his vision.
He clearly had his turn signal on. Get over it princess, the biker is the bitch here.
I mean it's clearly on a curve and well yeah I doubt you can comprehend how his speed and the curved lines of cars put this squarely on the biker but it's ok we know you biker clowns are special today.
Lane splitting is a risk every rider takes of their own accord. It's illegal virtually everywhere and it can be extremely dangerous. Perfect example right here. There is no angle from which this rider was not at fault
Brother, I have several bikes, I don't ride anymore because I don't care to be guilty by association with the clowns pretending to be bikers today.
They have zero accountability, seem to think anyone who is not on a bike needs to immediately pull over and dim their lights so the fragile fucking flowers can ride on by because their safety is EVERYONE ELSE'S responsibility.
South Park pegged them.
The guy pretending it's not the bikers fault is a prime example..
America has the biggest variety of every law due to there being effectively 50 different countries in one. But I'll happily rephrase and say it's frowned upon in most countries. Regardless of legality, the laws of physics dictate that it's 100% riders' risk in every single country on the planet if they value self preservation.
Good Googling there champ. Or was it ChatGPT? I imagine it's less "expected" and perhaps more "encouraged". Specifically in urban areas, specifically with still stand at traffic light intersections, not this clearly rural road.
It's not the Netherlands, but let's pretend it is. How exactly was he making the road safer by speeding through still stand traffic? If he'd gone slower he would've seen the merging car in time. He didnt have the ability or time to stop or even evade in case of an emergency - let's say it wasn't a car but instead an animal or a kid stepped out from behind the car. Is he still in the right? Is the dead child at fault?
Regardless of legality, all competent bikers know the NUMBER ONE RULE is to assume everybody is out to get you. If you don't follow that philosophy you won't last long. This guy is lucky to be alive, and all the damage is due to his own stupidity.
I am European and worked in Amsterdam for many years.
The damage is due to someone changing lanes without checking it was safe to do so. You sound like the sort of person who melts things because they do not check the oven before turning it on.
Sure you did. Is this open rural road in Amsterdam?
The other car made room for them so this situation was already ongoing for some time. It was safe as far as anyone there was concerned. The only one who didn't know what was going on was the speeding bike who didn't have a good view of the situation. We can see his pov... He had NO way of knowing what was happening. So the dead kid... their fault?
The fact that this situation was already ongoing for some time makes it even more the car's responsibility to look before manoeuvring.
Whether this is Amsterdam or not (although you should know there are plenty of open rural roads around Amsterdam) is not really relevant to whether this is "illegal virtually everywhere" or even "frowned upon in most countries", however. Amsterdam is a place.
In the Netherlands, this is not allowed by law, but since 1991 it is no longer forbidden for a motorcyclist to drive slowly between traffic jams. Because passing is possible in many ways, there are rules of the game about how a motorcyclist passes a car traffic jam. For this purpose, a so-called file code of conduct has been drawn up. For example, the speed difference between the engine and the car being passed should not exceed 10 km/h. The speed of other traffic should also not exceed 50 km/h. For motorways with more than two lanes, the position between the two leftmost lanes should be used.
In this situation, the passing speed exceeds 10 km/h.
Yes because when all traffic has slowed to a crawl, and there is a car right behind me stopped, it is my problem if someone weaves in between the cars behind me at a high rate of speed.
As an Eastern European, I can tell you that the biker is indeed the only jackass here. Who the fuck speeds between lines like that when the traffic is still?
I live in a country where we don't have a lot of bicycle lanes and even where there are, there are there are either people walking there or cars parked.
I go on the road with my bicycle but i know that I'm taking a risk every day since cars pass me by and they frequently are at arms reach.
I try to stay as far away from the car as i possibly can and whenever there is a place when i don't know who can go first, me or the car i just stop and let the car go first. It literally costs me 10 seconds.
How do you know they didn’t look in the mirror? They had their turn signals on, and slowly made a safe merge. The biker was like 6 cars back when the car began to merge. How can anyone blame the car here?
Yes. The car used a turn signal and started to switch lanes while the bike was behind the car that was behind him. The bike sped so fast that the car never got to see him until the bike rammed into him.
Look how far back the bike was when the car began to turn. He knew he had room to get over, and then focused on the road in front of him after initiating the switch.
You can’t expect everyone who merges to keep 100% focus behind them in case someone on a bike wants to lane split going 5x the speed of traffic. This is a motorcycle issue. Not a car issue.
What? A biker cannot brake safely in a short distance the way that a car can. There’s nothing to stop the biker from falling forward. The biker has the right of way. However, the biker was also driving in between lanes which is really risky and should not be done as a normal way of driving.
Lane splitting never gives you the right of way. The car safely and correctly switched lanes and wash even signaling beforehand. It’s the biker’s fault no matter how you look at it.
Personally, if I hear a motorcycle approaching from left or right side I do nothing except drive straight at a stable speed until it passes. I’d hope other drivers would also allow a motorcycle to pass. A motorcyclist is much more vulnerable than anyone in a car, because there is no crumple zone for a motorcycle accident
You would not hear a bike behind you at that distance and speed but let's assume for a second we're in an alternate reality where you have super hearing and that this is the loudest bike on the planet. The car would have no idea where the sound is coming from, and considering there's stationary traffic all around, there is ZERO reason for them to believe it's coming from between two stationary lanes.
You do you, but I doubt you’ll be able to hear a biker lane splitting with the speeds (of both biker and cars) we see in the video. Also, it’ll be out of your control in this situation since the lane splitting happened after the car initiated a lane switch.
Idk how you’ll drive straight in the middle of lane switching while also making sure you don’t hurt the biker.
So even if you follow through your personal take and still manage to have an idiot biker hit you, it will never be your fault.
Personally I’d stick to the traffic laws in the area that I’m driving in so that I wouldn’t be held accountable for any consequences of any road idiot even if leads to their deaths. And honestly I wouldn’t care to help either if their idiocy leads to their suffering or demise.
I wish the biker learned a lesson an spreads the word around, do not split a lane... Those lanes are there for a reason.. Noone expects a moving vehicle while every other vehicles around them are also stuck in traffic..
Stupid ass bikers... Treat yourself as a vehicle in traffic first to be recognized as a vehicle in traffic.
Sorry for ranting...
Edit: misspelling.
Amateur move on the Motorcycle list part. I learned to split lanes in San Diego. It has to be done in a reasonable speed and try to predict when the lane change is coming…. because it’s coming.
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Let's drive 30 mph faster than everyone else while splitting lines, what could go wrong?
The camera man is the only one to blame for this.
Cameraman almost killed the cameraman
No, it is the person who changed lanes without looking in their mirror.
Yeah because he can see around vehicle's to notice some jackass over driving his vision. He clearly had his turn signal on. Get over it princess, the biker is the bitch here. I mean it's clearly on a curve and well yeah I doubt you can comprehend how his speed and the curved lines of cars put this squarely on the biker but it's ok we know you biker clowns are special today.
Lane splitting is a risk every rider takes of their own accord. It's illegal virtually everywhere and it can be extremely dangerous. Perfect example right here. There is no angle from which this rider was not at fault
Brother, I have several bikes, I don't ride anymore because I don't care to be guilty by association with the clowns pretending to be bikers today. They have zero accountability, seem to think anyone who is not on a bike needs to immediately pull over and dim their lights so the fragile fucking flowers can ride on by because their safety is EVERYONE ELSE'S responsibility.
South Park pegged them. The guy pretending it's not the bikers fault is a prime example..
It is legal virtually everywhere, apart from in America.
America has the biggest variety of every law due to there being effectively 50 different countries in one. But I'll happily rephrase and say it's frowned upon in most countries. Regardless of legality, the laws of physics dictate that it's 100% riders' risk in every single country on the planet if they value self preservation.
It really is not, in some countries (for example the Netherlands) it is expected of motorcycles to filter, in order to make roads safer for everyone.
In almost every country it is incumbent upon drivers to make sure it is safe before changing lanes.
Good Googling there champ. Or was it ChatGPT? I imagine it's less "expected" and perhaps more "encouraged". Specifically in urban areas, specifically with still stand at traffic light intersections, not this clearly rural road.
It's not the Netherlands, but let's pretend it is. How exactly was he making the road safer by speeding through still stand traffic? If he'd gone slower he would've seen the merging car in time. He didnt have the ability or time to stop or even evade in case of an emergency - let's say it wasn't a car but instead an animal or a kid stepped out from behind the car. Is he still in the right? Is the dead child at fault?
Regardless of legality, all competent bikers know the NUMBER ONE RULE is to assume everybody is out to get you. If you don't follow that philosophy you won't last long. This guy is lucky to be alive, and all the damage is due to his own stupidity.
I am European and worked in Amsterdam for many years.
The damage is due to someone changing lanes without checking it was safe to do so. You sound like the sort of person who melts things because they do not check the oven before turning it on.
Sure you did. Is this open rural road in Amsterdam?
The other car made room for them so this situation was already ongoing for some time. It was safe as far as anyone there was concerned. The only one who didn't know what was going on was the speeding bike who didn't have a good view of the situation. We can see his pov... He had NO way of knowing what was happening. So the dead kid... their fault?
The fact that this situation was already ongoing for some time makes it even more the car's responsibility to look before manoeuvring.
Whether this is Amsterdam or not (although you should know there are plenty of open rural roads around Amsterdam) is not really relevant to whether this is "illegal virtually everywhere" or even "frowned upon in most countries", however. Amsterdam is a place.
No, it isn't.
Yes it is.
No, it isn't.
In this situation, the passing speed exceeds 10 km/h.
Irrelevant to the argument which was that “lane splitting is illegal virtually everywhere” which it is not.
Did your folks argue over which of you kids would end up dimmest?
The world turning out not to be the same as your parochial experience is an opportunity for learning, not for bile.
You are a dull crayon my friend, I'm sorry to be the one who informed you of this news.
Yes because when all traffic has slowed to a crawl, and there is a car right behind me stopped, it is my problem if someone weaves in between the cars behind me at a high rate of speed.
It's the obligation of the driver to do a shoulder/mirror check before any lane change or turn.
They checked, no one was there. Then some idiot on a bike swerved past stopped traffic trying to kill themselves.
Yes, that is correct.
As an Eastern European, I can tell you that the biker is indeed the only jackass here. Who the fuck speeds between lines like that when the traffic is still?
I thought that’s what loud pipes were for. Anyway, good luck with your future head injuries.
Future? It appears we are a little bit late on that one... 😂
Honestly, this people will filter themselves out.
I live in a country where we don't have a lot of bicycle lanes and even where there are, there are there are either people walking there or cars parked.
I go on the road with my bicycle but i know that I'm taking a risk every day since cars pass me by and they frequently are at arms reach.
I try to stay as far away from the car as i possibly can and whenever there is a place when i don't know who can go first, me or the car i just stop and let the car go first. It literally costs me 10 seconds.
My friend, i am ALLL for pulling warning labels and letting problems solve themselves!
I agree with you, but a lot of times drivers will get punished for the stupidity of others
Oh it happens every day, look at gun owners
How do you know they didn’t look in the mirror? They had their turn signals on, and slowly made a safe merge. The biker was like 6 cars back when the car began to merge. How can anyone blame the car here?
You think that was safe? It demonstrably was not.
It was.
You saw the outcome of the manoeuvre, right?
Yes. The car used a turn signal and started to switch lanes while the bike was behind the car that was behind him. The bike sped so fast that the car never got to see him until the bike rammed into him.
That simply untrue. The car can clearly see the motorcycle before manoeuvring.
Turning on your indicator does not mean everyone has to avoid you while you turn.
Bikers don’t own the road.
Look how far back the bike was when the car began to turn. He knew he had room to get over, and then focused on the road in front of him after initiating the switch.
You can’t expect everyone who merges to keep 100% focus behind them in case someone on a bike wants to lane split going 5x the speed of traffic. This is a motorcycle issue. Not a car issue.
Yes, you absolutely can. You should never move your vehicle without being aware of what might be moving into the space you are about to put it.
You are so fucking wrong
What? A biker cannot brake safely in a short distance the way that a car can. There’s nothing to stop the biker from falling forward. The biker has the right of way. However, the biker was also driving in between lanes which is really risky and should not be done as a normal way of driving.
Lane splitting never gives you the right of way. The car safely and correctly switched lanes and wash even signaling beforehand. It’s the biker’s fault no matter how you look at it.
Personally, if I hear a motorcycle approaching from left or right side I do nothing except drive straight at a stable speed until it passes. I’d hope other drivers would also allow a motorcycle to pass. A motorcyclist is much more vulnerable than anyone in a car, because there is no crumple zone for a motorcycle accident
You know, since the motorcyclist is the most vulnerable there he should be the one that is the most careful.
Have you thought about saving hour own ass?
You would not hear a bike behind you at that distance and speed but let's assume for a second we're in an alternate reality where you have super hearing and that this is the loudest bike on the planet. The car would have no idea where the sound is coming from, and considering there's stationary traffic all around, there is ZERO reason for them to believe it's coming from between two stationary lanes.
You do you, but I doubt you’ll be able to hear a biker lane splitting with the speeds (of both biker and cars) we see in the video. Also, it’ll be out of your control in this situation since the lane splitting happened after the car initiated a lane switch.
Idk how you’ll drive straight in the middle of lane switching while also making sure you don’t hurt the biker.
So even if you follow through your personal take and still manage to have an idiot biker hit you, it will never be your fault.
Personally I’d stick to the traffic laws in the area that I’m driving in so that I wouldn’t be held accountable for any consequences of any road idiot even if leads to their deaths. And honestly I wouldn’t care to help either if their idiocy leads to their suffering or demise.
I don’t know, I’d just rather do the thing that results in nobody almost dying
Well, to be honest, who would expect to shoulder-check for a motorcycle weaving quickly between stationary cars?
How about you see when cars have their blinkers on? Or maybe be about the same speed as everyone else so you have time to react?
Also they are not stationary. Bikers fault here.
A Brazilian.
Mfers after lane splitting became legal in Colorado.
Splitting isn’t legal in Colorado. Filtering is. Not knowing the difference is why it’s like this
LANE SPLITTING IS NOT LEGAL IN COLORADO.
Saying it loud for the dead people in the back.
Correction, almost kills self
Zero sympathy here
We all make mistakes, we're humans.
What a cheat! The truck driver drove very well. He saved a life.
Gets up like the driver fell off a bike 💀
I wish the biker learned a lesson an spreads the word around, do not split a lane... Those lanes are there for a reason.. Noone expects a moving vehicle while every other vehicles around them are also stuck in traffic.. Stupid ass bikers... Treat yourself as a vehicle in traffic first to be recognized as a vehicle in traffic. Sorry for ranting... Edit: misspelling.
Lane splitting….no sympathy
Damn, missed getting his head squished like a grape by inches.
Dress for the slide, not for the ride.
the only reason hes still alive is cus he is the cameraman
Amateur move on the Motorcycle list part. I learned to split lanes in San Diego. It has to be done in a reasonable speed and try to predict when the lane change is coming…. because it’s coming.
His head was this close to being a cherry tomato.
Looks more like a suicide Attempted
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Biker's 100% at fault here
Wrong sub but very spooky video
Wrong sub? Camera ma man did its job?
Cameraman fafo
The camera saved his life.