I've met SO MANY women and girls who support abortion rights and have never had one, including myself. I think the sentence he wrote could have been shortened to "I've never met a girl."
One of the women I served with had a miscarriage and had to get a medical procedure commonly used at that point for early to mid term abortions to remove the fetus so she wouldn't have negative health concerns from it.
Unfortunately for her, we were in the military and they required her to physically bring in the doctor's note before she could be fully off work. This poor woman could barely walk she was in so much pain from the procedure. AND she was already on pain killers.
I think about the intensity of her pain every time people act like all abortions are some kind of spa day for women, with no pain or recovery time.
The procedure is called a D&C, dilation and curettage. Same thing as an abortion, though some people like to differentiate it for their own purposes (I didn’t get an abortion, I got a D&C!!)
My anti-abortion, ultra-religious cousin had a miscarriage and described her D&C in detail at a family function. It was a wanted pregnancy and a tragic situation so obviously I didn’t say anything, but I couldn’t help privately notice the hypocrisy.
I think that's part of what makes them so mad.
They believe women can just remove consequences, like pregnancy, super easy and when they are trapped forever with child support.
If I women can just walk away, why can't they?
They don't get how awful it actually is to go through all of it. How expensive, painful, scary, traumatic. How life changing it is. How badly you get treated after for choosing to do it.
To get pregnant, I had to get my PCOS cured by having chemo for something else, then I had to pay $$$$$ for IVF anyway. So no, I've never been in the position where having an abortion was something I would have considered.
Same here. Never had an abortion, never been pregnant, probably wont get pregnant without some medical assistance. Best friend is a lesbian, never had sex with a man and thank fuck shes never been raped, obviously never had an abortion, possibly even more of a militant pro abortion rights activist than i am
Same. Hell, I did what these types expect of women: I was both married and a mother by the time I was 21 and I will vehemently defend women’s right to healthcare till the day I die. These people just can’t defend a morally indefensible stance (denying bodily autonomy to women) so they resort to stupid, emotionally manipulative arguments. Every. Single. Time.
im not even gonna get pregnant being in a wlw relationship, and we both support abortion rights
coz of this little thing called empathy
(also, why would someone having had an abotyion be an argument AGAINST them supporting it? lol "i tried the thing and decided everyone should have a right to do it too!" yeah, how... uh... what)
I am a woman supporting abortion, never had an abortion and was never pregnant in the first place. Still trying to find all those women they talk about
I think you're right. Well, I'm not a lesbian, and I've never had an abortion, and of course I support access to abortions. Let them try to seethe on that.
I support minding my own business and whether someone chooses to abort or not it’s up to them. I just hope they get proper care and support regardless of choice.
I’m a woman who has always wanted kids, have kids and would never get an abortion for social or economic reasons, because I have resources, health and mental capacity to give birth and raise them, but I absolutely support the right to choose an abortion because I understand not everyone is me.
I've never had one and never will (hopefully, since I had my tubes tied 3 years ago) and support for abortion rights is my most ardent political stance. Men like this are incapable of understanding a woman's perspective on anything, let alone a hugely impactful issue with far-reaching implications like abortion rights.
Does he go around asking every woman he talks to about a) her stance on abortion and b) whether she’s had an abortion in the past? Because otherwise how would he know that?
Sometimes I have conversations about personal medical procedures, but “everyone I know” who had a colonoscopy for instance hasn’t told me about it. Only a few. Am I the weird one who doesn’t offer up my lumbar puncture on the reg?
Both takes seem goofy to me. Obviously the neckbeeard generalization makes no sense. But if the criteria for having an opinion on abortion is whether someone has had one, that excludes men who are pro-choice and a lot of women regardless of their stance on the issue
I think they’re trying to call out the hypocrisy of the men who have a whole lot of opinions on things their body will never be able to go through, as though they’re personally affected by it on par with women who may need/want an abortion.
I really don’t think men should be left out of the convo. I’m pro choice but I think the unfortunate reality of the discussion is that it tends to be people who believe it’s murder VS people who don’t. If someone genuinely believes something is murder, why in their right mind would they go like “well, I think you’re committing murder but it’s your choice. It’s up to you whether you wanna do that” ? Of course men should be humble and not disregard input from women because obviously there’s a lot of men who get basic shit wrong like thinking an ectopic pregnancy is viable.
I think we have to convince them that a fetus isn’t a person. Typically folks who’re anti abortion are also religious in some way and tie it to that. Don’t get me wrong, there’s a lot of misogyny too with people treating it like a “get out of jail free card” and that women must serve their “sentence”
Why should I, a man, have more agency regarding a woman's body than the woman herself?
I'm not the one trying to get a watermelon through a hole the size of a lemon without tearing the lemon in half, so why do I get to call the shots on whether a woman can abort?
Yeah we would be done having kids if abortion was illegal. The prospect of doctors being unable to intervene in ectopic pregnancies until you’re basically dying is wild.
Dude, you have no idea who has or hasn't had an abortion. It's not a subject that ever comes up, especially with hideous, fat, unhygienic women-haters.
I've never had an abortion. Or a miscarriage. Or a d&c. I've had a single pregnancy. Born on the due date. Vaginal. Breastfed for more than three years. And my body count can be counted with only my middle fingers.
cant imagine em not having a vested interest, im guessing. ignore all the men that're pro-abortion, buuut knowing them they probably think theyre cucks and/or trans and thats the ONLY reason they ever could want to support it
Didn't a simple "not all men do this" in a different post already trigger you? So much for "generalizing en entire gender is bad". But it's only a problem when it's aimed at women, am I right?
I've met SO MANY women and girls who support abortion rights and have never had one, including myself. I think the sentence he wrote could have been shortened to "I've never met a girl."
Same. I would say the opposite is actually true.
Guys like this think we can get abortions as easily as buying pads and that it's something every unwed sexually active woman does every weekend.
One of the women I served with had a miscarriage and had to get a medical procedure commonly used at that point for early to mid term abortions to remove the fetus so she wouldn't have negative health concerns from it.
Unfortunately for her, we were in the military and they required her to physically bring in the doctor's note before she could be fully off work. This poor woman could barely walk she was in so much pain from the procedure. AND she was already on pain killers.
I think about the intensity of her pain every time people act like all abortions are some kind of spa day for women, with no pain or recovery time.
The procedure is called a D&C, dilation and curettage. Same thing as an abortion, though some people like to differentiate it for their own purposes (I didn’t get an abortion, I got a D&C!!)
My anti-abortion, ultra-religious cousin had a miscarriage and described her D&C in detail at a family function. It was a wanted pregnancy and a tragic situation so obviously I didn’t say anything, but I couldn’t help privately notice the hypocrisy.
Isn’t it so ironic :”)
I think that's part of what makes them so mad. They believe women can just remove consequences, like pregnancy, super easy and when they are trapped forever with child support. If I women can just walk away, why can't they? They don't get how awful it actually is to go through all of it. How expensive, painful, scary, traumatic. How life changing it is. How badly you get treated after for choosing to do it.
To get pregnant, I had to get my PCOS cured by having chemo for something else, then I had to pay $$$$$ for IVF anyway. So no, I've never been in the position where having an abortion was something I would have considered.
I very much support abortion rights.
Yup same. Just because I'm lucky I have access to free contraception, doesn't mean I can't empathise with those who don't.
The problem is, these types of men can't empathise with women at all.
My mum is literally anti abortion for herself and vehemently pro it for anyone who wants one. They truly haven’t spoken to women.
Same here. Never had an abortion, never been pregnant, probably wont get pregnant without some medical assistance. Best friend is a lesbian, never had sex with a man and thank fuck shes never been raped, obviously never had an abortion, possibly even more of a militant pro abortion rights activist than i am
Same. Never had one but support it 100%
Same. Hell, I did what these types expect of women: I was both married and a mother by the time I was 21 and I will vehemently defend women’s right to healthcare till the day I die. These people just can’t defend a morally indefensible stance (denying bodily autonomy to women) so they resort to stupid, emotionally manipulative arguments. Every. Single. Time.
Soooo, he’s only met one woman and that’s a strong maybe.🤔
As a mother, I fully support abortion. Only people with uteruses should be able to decide on what to do with their uterus and its contents.
im not even gonna get pregnant being in a wlw relationship, and we both support abortion rights
coz of this little thing called empathy
(also, why would someone having had an abotyion be an argument AGAINST them supporting it? lol "i tried the thing and decided everyone should have a right to do it too!" yeah, how... uh... what)
I am a woman supporting abortion, never had an abortion and was never pregnant in the first place. Still trying to find all those women they talk about
Easy to support when you’ve never been in that position
hey dude! i’m a woman who hasn’t had an abortion and probably never will bc i’m lesbian. i’m pretty sure that i’m real. cope with that, you clown
(not directed and the poster here of course)
Neckbeards can't cope with lesbians; they just overload and catch on fire :D
So real. And god forbid you mention bisexuality when that “you can’t have opposite-sex friends” argument comes up.
"Opposite sex friends" translates into "m'competition" to them
i also have blue hair and a septum piercing. i’d probably make them burst into fire upon seeing me
I think they’d just turn to ash straight away
so… in the right circumstances i could be weaponized?
I think you're right. Well, I'm not a lesbian, and I've never had an abortion, and of course I support access to abortions. Let them try to seethe on that.
He's technically right, most likely.
I'm sure it's true that he has just "never met a woman" in general
??? I don’t know any women who’ve had abortions and I don’t know any women against abortion
They’re saying the guy is only right in the sense that he’s never met a woman period.
Every misogynistic comment against abortion is a reason for abortion.
I support minding my own business and whether someone chooses to abort or not it’s up to them. I just hope they get proper care and support regardless of choice.
I’m a woman who has always wanted kids, have kids and would never get an abortion for social or economic reasons, because I have resources, health and mental capacity to give birth and raise them, but I absolutely support the right to choose an abortion because I understand not everyone is me.
I’m actively trying for a kid, and my state’s abortion ban has me terrified for several reasons.
Also, don’t move to Louisiana. Or do and come use those votes to help us? Please?
I support abortion and never had one. It’s not that deep.
Im a man who gave birth and supports abortion without ever having one
I've never had one and never will (hopefully, since I had my tubes tied 3 years ago) and support for abortion rights is my most ardent political stance. Men like this are incapable of understanding a woman's perspective on anything, let alone a hugely impactful issue with far-reaching implications like abortion rights.
As a man, who has never had an abortion, I’m also Pro-choice. Does this mean I’m coping? Or…?
Does he go around asking every woman he talks to about a) her stance on abortion and b) whether she’s had an abortion in the past? Because otherwise how would he know that?
Are people regularly discussing the abortions they have?
It's a part of life. It's nothing to be ashamed of. Why wouldn't they?
Sometimes I have conversations about personal medical procedures, but “everyone I know” who had a colonoscopy for instance hasn’t told me about it. Only a few. Am I the weird one who doesn’t offer up my lumbar puncture on the reg?
Both takes seem goofy to me. Obviously the neckbeeard generalization makes no sense. But if the criteria for having an opinion on abortion is whether someone has had one, that excludes men who are pro-choice and a lot of women regardless of their stance on the issue
The first part is a joke, though.
I think they’re trying to call out the hypocrisy of the men who have a whole lot of opinions on things their body will never be able to go through, as though they’re personally affected by it on par with women who may need/want an abortion.
I'm a woman who has never had an abortion, but I'd rather kill myself than be pregnant so I support that sticking around.
Said by a man who doesn't talk to women lmao
I think it speaks to just how arrogant so many men are that they assume they know the entire medical history of all women they've ever met.
If anything, you're giving them _too much_ credit. These guys think they know the entire personal lives of all the women they've ever met, too.
I really don’t think men should be left out of the convo. I’m pro choice but I think the unfortunate reality of the discussion is that it tends to be people who believe it’s murder VS people who don’t. If someone genuinely believes something is murder, why in their right mind would they go like “well, I think you’re committing murder but it’s your choice. It’s up to you whether you wanna do that” ? Of course men should be humble and not disregard input from women because obviously there’s a lot of men who get basic shit wrong like thinking an ectopic pregnancy is viable.
I think we have to convince them that a fetus isn’t a person. Typically folks who’re anti abortion are also religious in some way and tie it to that. Don’t get me wrong, there’s a lot of misogyny too with people treating it like a “get out of jail free card” and that women must serve their “sentence”
Weird, I've met men who had an abortion.
But I get the point.
Are people down voting you for being trans inclusive?
...Apparently so. Not surprising, but still slightly disappointing.
Not only does the medical system misgender us, Reddit also thinks that if you get an abortion you aren't a man.
Like I get the point of the meme, but that's just factually incorrect.
I think they misread your comment as “men that supported their partner in an abortion” but yeah, automatic misgendering.
Never had one, probably never will, I still support abortion.
Never had children. Never gotten pregnant. Never even had full sex. Still believe in abortion
I’ve never had an abortion and have a 1 year old. I could never personally live with an abortion I think it I support the right for others to choose.
I’m a woman with three children. Never had an abortion, but support the right to choose 150%.
Why should I, a man, have more agency regarding a woman's body than the woman herself?
I'm not the one trying to get a watermelon through a hole the size of a lemon without tearing the lemon in half, so why do I get to call the shots on whether a woman can abort?
cis men should not speak on women/afab persons bodies. simple as that.
I mean, of course I would like to hear the opinions about abortion from someone who had it.
What kinda dumb argument is he trying to make?
Easy to say "I've never met a woman who..." When you haven't ever been with a woman
I’ve never met a woman against abortion who is pro adoption and adopting children either.
Every time I see post like this it makes me want to find Op to throw hands
Yeah we would be done having kids if abortion was illegal. The prospect of doctors being unable to intervene in ectopic pregnancies until you’re basically dying is wild.
Haven't met many women, huh
The amount of lesbian clinic escorts ive seen on tiktok alone prove this wrong. Let people have bodily autonomy and dont be a dick about it
It’s cause the only girl that has had a conversation with him is his mom
OOP only knows two women. Both have had abortions. Therefore, his experience is universal!
Never been pregnant, never had an abortion. Have supported abortion since I was in my teens and I’m late 30’s now.
Dude, you have no idea who has or hasn't had an abortion. It's not a subject that ever comes up, especially with hideous, fat, unhygienic women-haters.
I've never had an abortion. Or a miscarriage. Or a d&c. I've had a single pregnancy. Born on the due date. Vaginal. Breastfed for more than three years. And my body count can be counted with only my middle fingers.
I'm fucking perfect by their standards.
I am pro-choice.
Pfft he's never met a girl what a liar
cant imagine em not having a vested interest, im guessing. ignore all the men that're pro-abortion, buuut knowing them they probably think theyre cucks and/or trans and thats the ONLY reason they ever could want to support it
I’ve never had an abortion but would like the choice if I or other women were in the circumstance of needing one. Crazy how that works.
Rule of thumb for misogynists and idiots.
Men are accountable only for themselves.
Women are accountable for their entire gender.
I support abortions and invitro procedures. Haven't had neither,but what a woman does with her organs is up to her
Didn't a simple "not all men do this" in a different post already trigger you? So much for "generalizing en entire gender is bad". But it's only a problem when it's aimed at women, am I right?
As a woman who supports abortion and has never gotten one, this dude definitely has never met a girl.
I’ve never met a woman who has been aborted so why do they want one?