Yup. The reality is that simple; Nukes will guarantee a country's survival. Nobody will fuck with a nuclear-armed country.
Japan is surrounded by 3 nuclear-arm totalitarian states hostile to Japan. Most especially China since it's itching for revenge for what the CCP calls "century of humiliation" at the hands of the West and Japan.
Japan needs nukes, and most experts such as strategic analysts, professors or geopolitical scholars have come to agree on the same conclusion. People that disagree with that are simply willfully ignorant or misinformed on the realities of national security / deterrence and how geopolitics work.
I know South Korean people would not understand us, but we have absolutely no intention to attack them (again, and ever) - The general Japanese public only wants to be their friends if they ever allow us to be.
North Korea, it's not a lack of trying, but their hostility is not something we can manage by ourselves anymore. I am not supportive of us having a nuclear weapon - it's an antiquated technology with very little "political" or "science" effect anymore - we would prefer modern technology like kinetic bombardment from orbit with zero radioactive fallout.
For China... I have no comments; arguing with them on Reddit has been unproductive.
It's not that SK expects a Japan first strike, but it's that with Japan having a nuke, it erodes the nuclear umbrella protection from the US. It comes with a possible asterisk. If the relationship between SK and Japan worsens, SK can never be sure that if a nuclear capable Japan uses it, the US will respond in the same manner. That uncertainty is enough to compel SK to go nuclear.
Edgy. But coming back to reality now, the world has enjoyed an unprecedented era of peace (Pax Americana) since WWII, due almost entirely to deterrence by US military might. Just because the US did not directly intervene when Ukraine, a country they had 0 military alliance with, was invaded, doesn't mean they would respond the same if an ally were invaded. In fact one could argue (Russia does) that the reason Ukraine was invaded when it was is because it was working towards becoming an official ally of the US which would've made invasion impossible.
Edit: Confused if I'm being downvoted by people who hate facts or just hate the US lol
. In fact one could argue (Russia does) that the reason Ukraine was invaded when it was is because it was working towards becoming an official ally of the US which would've made invasion impossible.
Edit: Confused if I'm being downvoted by people who hate facts or just hate the US lol
I don't get it. Russia invaded Ukraine because they fear that a US aligned Ukraine would be impossible to conquer? So, they were going to invade them anyway... BTW I didn't downvoted you.
The US isn't really in the "protection" business anymore, though. The US believes in "might is right", has no interest in protecting democracies and doesn't seem to believe in the concept of "allies" anymore.
It seems unlikely the US would do anything other than run if China genuinely threatened SK or Japan. Unfortunately in this harsh new world it makes sense for those countries to possess their own nukes.
I mean, wouldn't that kind of already be the case with 5 eyes? Like yeah, Japan might not already have nukes of their own but I guarantee American nukes are already all over their coastline and waters. Anywhere the US Navy goes, there's lots of boom in tow. Pretty sure most of the US MBs in AUS are loaded to the brim too.
Imagine you’re SK, the enemies to the north has nukes and now your former colonizer has nukes and you’re the only regional player with no nukes. They would be forced to develop their own nukes, because there’s no other option. But thinking that “SK doesnt need to worry because Japan just wants to be friends” is beyond delusional.
Japan still not officially admitted they are at fault for WW2 a d the invasions of China and they change their history lessons in school to sugar coat what they did
They also pay respect to the generals and soliders that died in WW2 every year.
Untill they publicly apologize and change their history lesson to reflect what actually haoien in WW2 they can't be trusted.
As a former SK national, I understand. I think SK and Japan should do joint development, and have a system where both countries have independent missiles but have watchers in launch detection and missile command facilities.
Japan can never set foot on the Korean peninsula but at the same time needs a big enough rock to throw to deter any North Korean nuclear threat.
SK and Japan's fates are intertwined whether people in both countries like it or not.
Actually I'm going to be called crazy for saying this, but I think in order to heal past ties, each country should have a garrison of a company of soldiers in each others' nations as a sign of trust.
By that rationale, Korea experience far longer peace and prosperity by being aligned with China than Japan as China would step in to exert control on North Korea if the Kim regime is threatening local security interest.
...as China would step in to exert control on North Korea...
That was absolutely what Hu Jintao did. When North Korea did nuclear testing, the PRC sent army units near the border and did a military exercise as a warning. Things are different now. North Korea is now a poison pill, a dog waiting to be unleashed so if the US intervenes in a Taiwan war, North Korea will ensure the US is stretched thin.
Then the solution is simple, South Korea should support a peaceful Chinese reunification in return for China to aid in a peaceful reunification of the Koreas.
No more Taiwan issue, less pawns for U.S. to start a conflict with China.
South Korea should know better than anyone else how it feels to have your own country ripped apart by a Western power.
Japan shouldn’t even have any military given what it had tried to do during and pre-WW2.
Japan never repented for its war crimes and thanks to your white washing, a large population of Japanese believes Japan was not the aggressor but actually the victim of WW2, what a joke.
Maybe you guys should stop putting war criminals in shrines and paying respect to them first before claiming you aren’t interested in taking over Korea and rekindle the Japanese empire again
The Japanese government represents the people of Japan and carry out the will of the Japanese people even if a minority group doesn’t agree. Stop trying to shift attention.
And you guys is also correct usage when a majority of Japanese believe you weren’t the aggressor during WW2.
Right, the Chinese and Koreans were the aggressor during WW2 right?
Them 20 millions dead Chinese and Koreans triggered Japan to invade and brutalize their neighbors.
with the holocaust for example have clear evidence of the existence of a variety of death camps and mass shooting operations, that thus provides a definitive range of 5-6 million deaths, there are even logs from the german railway authority of the number of jews transported to be gassed
now moving on to china, what confirmed genocide has a massive range going from 2 million at the lowest, to 20 million at the highest? seems made up!!! (not to mention most of these numbers made by the story tellers are deaths from indirect causes)
Reddit user esperobbs has spoken. I for one am relieved to read this comment by esperobbs because for a while I thought developing weapons of mass destruction that can wipe out hundreds of thousands of people would be a step in the wrong direction.
Kinetic bombardment is so, so far beyond the realms of practicality that it details the rest of your comment.
Orbital magazines are too vulnerable to be practical. Orbital launches per weapon are too expensive and time consuming. Accuracy is impossible within the constraints of a single city block; arguably even a single city itself.
Bonhoeffer theory of stupidity. Cant argue with anyone when nationality or ethnicity is on the line. No concessions are made. People will justify anythjng. Lack of integrity all around. God have mercy on their souls.
Nukes have brought about the most peaceful era in history. They are built for deterrence, not use. Basically a 100% defensive weapon unless you are suicidal.
Japan's population is dying and as a result their military power is about to fall off a cliff with a lack of young people to sustain it. They're tightening borders and making it harder for people to immigrate as well. In some ways it seems like Japan is on its way to becoming a nuclear hermit kingdom like NK.
Your people said the same some 80 years ago, and created the Mushroom clouds phenomenon hoax. It will not surprise me you will do the same again, I guess killing and raping is your way of friendship to the SK people, but the North remembers.
Yea, people will obviously point finger at china but south korea will absolutely hold hands with china to shut this shit down if they actually move forward with it. The imperial army did so much war crimes that just the possibilities of japan re-arming would unite asia against them.
And I'm literally a citizen of Taiwan, who has spent a decade living in China and more years being threatened by it.
Judging how castrated China's news is, yeah I think I might know more about the nature of your country than you. But for this particular topics at hand, we just need to open your own textbook.
"I don't live there current but I know more about your country than you who is an actual citizen"
Well at least you lived here so that's way more relevant than the average western that never put a foot on Asia but claims to know better than locals.
So, what's your point anyways? What makes you think China aims to do any of the deranged shit Japan did, all the impossibly inhuman acts and war crimes they committed and deny?
What's next? The ex German Nazi arguing about invading Poland "because they will do to us the shit we did to them but we deny" ?
Reading it is just gross, and sounds dangerous, they should remember in what position they are before daring to yap shit against us.
What makes you think China aims to do any of the deranged shit Japan did, all the impossibly inhuman acts and war crimes they committed and deny?
Because the now ruling party of China attacked the Chinese forces who fought of the Japanese and then progressed to put the Chinese people through more suffering than the Japanese ever did.
And you don't have to go further than reddit to get a taste for how blood thirsty many Chinese are.
And with all the history revisionism and the government drumming up hatred among an in many aspects uneducated population it makes sense to worry
I have been living in and out of China from 2001 all the way to this year.
Modern Japan is not the country that teaches elementray school kids how to destroy enemy or strap a mock bomb on their back and tell them to reenact sucide bomber.
Modern Japan is also not the country that has nationalistic government propaganda slap on nearly single corners of public space.
Modern Japan is also not country that has a single nationalized textbook that denies the atrocities it committed.
I can go on. And no, I genuinely do not believe that you know more about your country than the people who actually need to deal with your government officials.
Dont bother lol. Just look at your comment insights. Its all americans and canadians in this sub. Only 10% actually from japan. Most people on this sub dont even know how anti-military/war the average japanese citizens are. Only brainbroken westerners that have zero stakes in war breaking out in asia are looking at this like its a good thing.
It's a common trait I see with all the Asian subs, just random non Asians LARPing as a local so they can say the most awful shit about another race(s).
Also, "happen again" like, killing millions of civilians? Doing the holocaust of Asia? Raping every woman no matter the age they come across? Or right this is Japan sub, that never happened, thier current administration is just an extension of the people that denies all their crimes but also hope to commit them again 💀
America has withdrawn from international politics. America wants to abandon its relationships with its allies so it can dominate and control its backyard, and allow Russia and China to dominate their own backyards in the same way. no one can blame Japan for wanting and needing nuclear weapons in this new political vacuum.
I can blame the Japanese government for wanting nuclear weapons, absolutely. No one needs a nuclear weapon, and no one should have them.
The US and Russia are "launch on warn." Presumably China, India, Pakistan and Israel have the same stance. This means that if Japan deploys a nuclear weapon, at least one of those countries, and probably all of them, will launch enough nuclear weapons to kill the vast majority of organisms on the planet.
There is no safety in keeping a nuclear arsenal. There is no safety for anyone as long as nuclear weapons exist. They are suicidal madness itself.
America is so entrenched in Japan and Asia.There are hundreds of bases with over 100k personnel. The statements you make are so comically overblown. Though I'm also pro give Japan nuclear weapons, why not tbh
The US bases are for the benefit of the US, not for the benefit of the country they are located in. The US now believes in "might is right" and no longer has any ideology regarding protecting democracies. The US has made it clear they do not want to be involved in wars protecting other countries.
You'd have to be very naive if you were the Japanese government and believed the US would protect Japan if there was a threat from a more powerful nation (i.e China).
It's a little bit more complex than that lol. Influence over regions vital but yeah ofc the american soft and hard power is in flux. So many proxy wars going on militarly and more importantly imo economically. Also so many disputed islands and regions like senkaku that will test alliances in terms of reaction and will. It's a nuanced and complex situation.
I'm unclear from what you've written whether you agree or disagree with me.
It feels like you disagree with what I wrote as you use the phrase "lol" when responding to what I've written. But, the rest of your post doesn't dispute my argument and doesn't really say anything at all.
Do you think the US would protect Japan with military direct military action against China if China took direct military action against Japan? Do you think America would risk entering a war that they might lose for the sake of protecting another country?
Not the guy you replied to, but 100% yes they would. For example, if Japan were to be attacked, all U.S. military personnel at Okinawa are ordered to stay in place and fight to defend the island, as opposed to shifting assets off-island- which is a recent change in US strategic policy. I haven't looked at any of your posts other than what's posted here, but from your comments itt I can only assume you are a CCP propaganda account.
They want the bases as it’s good for them but their policies are becoming more and more isolationist. Americans need to do what’s best for Americans. No need to pretend this isn’t happening.
Considering what happened when Ukraine gave theirs up, this really isn't even up for debate. Unfortunately, as long as a single country has them, everyone else can reasonably be expected to also want them to defend themselves. It's a very sad statement on humanity, but here we are.
I agree. According to the Japanese Wikipedia, the Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances was signed in 1994, where Ukraine agreed to give up its nuclear weapons in exchange for security assurances from the United States, the United Kingdom, and Russia. However, it is widely recognized that this agreement was broken by Russia’s actions between 2014 and 2022.
Do you actually trust America? Regime change is always a risk in any country, and yesterday's allies can become tomorrow's enemies very quickly, with very little warning.
Living in Canada: It's also against an agreement to threaten to annex your closest ally. What happens if Americans simply don't do it and don't come to Japan's defense? A security deal is simply a expectation that this would happen. If they don't do it, what then? You end like up like Armenia with it's "deal" with Russia.
Even something such as nukes will become obselete one day, but until that happens, they're still a deterrent.
An alliance only matters if said party would actually follow through on it. Japan should secure itself more than promises made through tough tweets and photo ops to something that can be felt and used if needed.
I think it has to be split into two categories. First is if you trust that having US bases is a massive deterrent and would've helped prevent or entirely prevented Russian shenanigans. Second is if you trust the US to act accordingly/responsibly in the event of shenanigans. Imho the first one is a resounding yes and the second has only recently become questionable.
Taken to the fullest extent the question becomes if the US did have bases in Ukraine under Obama in 2014 would it have prevented the annexation of Crimea?
What would your solution be? The US has fundamentally shifted its view of the world and doesn't believe in allies anymore, and therefore other countries can't rely on it for protection.
Isn't possessing nukes the best form of self defense available to countries in these circumstances?
One might forgive Japan for having a teensy bit more experience and motivation to move on this topic, especially where America is concerned (now that a war-mongering batshit crazy administration is at the helm poking the world more and more to see what they can get away with).
In the past having US bases meant the country could expect protection, but clearly that's not the case anymore. The US believes in "might is right" now, has no interest in protecting democracies, and therefore would be expected to up and leave if China ever actually did make an aggressive move against Japan or SK.
The rational option for those countries is to possess nukes.
I'm not sure I would trust Trump to follow up on a defense agreement, especially if Russia was somehow involved. I want less nukes in this world but I can't fault Japan for feeling the need
Who is attacking Japan? China is not and has never attacked Japan or are counting the Mongols as Chinese this time? Reddit never seem to agree when the Mongol invasion should be counted as a Chinese invasion or not.
However Japan did attack China taking its land and killing around 20 million Chinese, but again who is threatening to attack Japan?
Ukraine and Japan not even comparable, but that would take nuance and research, not needed for Reddit
If you are a country(good or bad) that wants sovereignty (from western influence or otherwise) yes you need nukes. Its not exatctly news and probably not a good lesson for the world to have to learn but the more america devolves the more poignant it gets.
Nukes serve the purpose of a deterrent, no sane leader would actually use one today unless they want to be isolated like NK and neutralized. The ambiguity of having one without actually having one, is just as powerful.
I think it's less about being isolated and more the fact that the world will literally end.
If basically any nuclear power beefs with another and launches the whole world will end. It's going to trigger a series of really complex (but sometimes faulty) early warning systems where the default for a lot of countries is just to let fly because you have at max a couple minutes to do something before you're wiped out.
Like launching a nuclear first strike in the modern era is very likely to be the second to last thing human beings ever do.
Russia spent a good deal of their early invasion of Ukraine pretending Putin was insane enough to use his nukes, so the rest of the world should just let him have his way. The purpose might be deterrent, but deferring what? In the hands of an unethical regime, "nuclear deterrent" means deterring not letting the regime have whatever it wants. Nukes are toys for bullies.
I’m not surprised. The Ukraine situation and the uncertainty with US upholding its commitments make nukes the only option. In this new world you have to protect yourself.
The last series of episodes titled "The Men Who Might Have Killed Us All". Robert makes the same joke in it about everyone having a nuke as a jab at the people who say "a polite society is an armed society" because the entire episode is about people proving exactly the opposite.
basically all the countries will want one.
this is like christmas. one for south korea, one for japan, one for philippine, one for Vietnam, heck, i think my next door neighbour just had a baby this year, he’d love to have one too. just for good luck
As a student of ancient history and thought, I’m reminded of a line attributed to Homer’s Odyssey: “The blade itself incites to deeds of violence.” Whether rendered exactly or through later translation, the insight is old and sharp—tools of violence are never neutral. They shape the mind long before they are used. That line frames the problem of Japan going nuclear quite succinctly.
Nuclear weapons are not inert insurance policies sitting quietly on a shelf; they impose their own logic. Once the blade exists, every hand that holds it must think in terms of preemption, escalation, and acceptable annihilation. Strategy bends around the weapon, not the other way around.
Japan, uniquely, has lived inside the consequences of that logic. To say “we should possess nuclear weapons” is to argue that Hiroshima and Nagasaki taught the wrong lesson—that the error was being unarmed rather than the existence of the blade itself. That’s a grim misreading of history.
Japan’s postwar restraint hasn’t been naïveté; it’s been a refusal to let the worst invention in human history define what security means. You don’t stabilize the world by adding more blades to the circle. You stabilize it by remembering, painfully and clearly, that some tools corrupt every purpose they claim to serve.
From protests when US nuclear armed submarines entered Japanese waters and shutting down every reactor in the country after the Fukushima disaster to now, this is wild. While Abe was alive, he was really hoping to push Japan this direction, but with how utterly unreliable the US is to maintain any of the current security agreements now, this has only accelerated it.
If Israel is allowed to bomb Iran for it's own nuclear weapon development, what do you think will happen to Japan or South Korea if they pursue one lol?
nukes aren't useful at this point unless if it is to deter North Korea. China wouldn't use nukes first since they have conventional weapon options. No need to nuke Tokyo when they can send a few thousand missiles instead. And if Japan goes nuclear first, the Chinese have way more nukes to respond with.
A few thousand missiles can only do superficial damage to a country the size of Japan. In terms of yield, that would only be a fraction of Hiroshima, which was a miniscule nuke by today's standards.
missiles are perfectly fine for taking out airbases, port facilities, utilities, etc. it doesn't have to be strategic strikes like bombing 90% of the homes in Nagoya as in WW2
And a country the size of Japan has thousands of such facilities, many requiring dozens if not hundreds of conventional missiles to disable. Even assuming all the missiles reach their targets without being destroyed, jammed, or otherwise missing, a few thousand is not nearly enough.
Military targets are the opposite and there are numerous targets that China would have to pick and choose from. Terrorize the civilian population and risk military reprisal? Or destroy military targets and not affect the country much at all and risk reprisal anyways?
Their concrete missile doesn't have the range to reach most of mainland Japan.
damned if they do, damned if they don't. no point on restricting to military targets because its not like Japan would back down if they just struck US bases in Japan or JSDF bases.
tokyo is within range if you have launches from northern manchuria, doubt the Russians would say no if the Chinese asked to overfly a little bit near vladivostok
Then you again run into the problem of only doing superficial damage. Japan is far too large of a country to be significantly affected by a conventional missile barrage of realistic proportion.
And if Japan goes nuclear first, the Chinese have way more nukes to respond with.
To quote the French nuclear doctrine (from the Cold War) : Russia has enough nukes to kill 800 millions french people, if there was 800 millions French people. But we can kill 80 millions russian people and that's enough to make them think twice.
And yes, it includes a nuclear warning shot (even if you attack with conventional weapons, they can send a small nuke on a military base to show they mean business).
Missiles with conventional warhead are only for targeting strategic sites to win conventional warfare and are quite useless in demolishing urban areas as they only have limited damage and are too expensive (and limited in quantity) to be used on non-strategic targets.
Thousand of missiles on Tokyo across the sea with significant portions of them intercepted won’t do much to Japan, while it would be a huge waste of resources for China.
What really matters is supersonic missiles with nuke warheads. One good hit can paralyze the entire country.
This is why nuke matters. And Japan can’t rely on China’s no nuke first policy. If they get desperate enough, they could nuke once on Tokyo,and the entire Japanese government shuts down completely. Japan needs a means to retaliate in this scenario.
And when Japan starts making nukes, they don’t stop at 100. They make enough to go MAD with China - and the method of delivery would be quite easy since they are so close to one another.
Given the bad blood with China and general distrust between Chinese and Japanese populations, it would be scary if Japan go from 0 to 100 citing China as the primary threat. This is a narrative shift because they used to use North Korea for anything defensive and militaristic. China would definitely escalate this and it will be a race to the bottom.
1982 UN session on nuclear disarmament - Japan says "never again" to nuclear weapons.
2025 on a random Thursday - Japan says "we need nukes"
Amazing how just a few generations go by and everyone forgets.
I wonder if Takaichi has even been to the Hiroshima museum.
Japan should absolutely protect themselves, but everyone owning nukes is not the solution. Its the cold war all over again.
I'm all for this. As an American we have clearly abandoned our allies. The Pax Americana is ending and the empire is collapsing in on itself. Our inability to provide security in exchange for economic subservience from our allies is only going to get worse.
They could arm themselves again, and what would that accomplish? They can have nuclear weapons and still be a client state to China, which is the likely outcome if they move away from America. NK isn’t an independent country despite their ownership of nuclear weapons. So what is the goal?
Good luck getting the public to stomach it. Especially people in Nagasaki. NGOs for peace, and the like. That's why the office says, because if she said it, there would be a firestorm of public outcry.
Right? Each time she says some intentionally inflammatory thing that will only make life more complicated for her citizens you think, that's it done, she's made the point that she is "tough" and will now stop doing stupid things.
Then, inevitably, you're wrong and she goes back for more.
I know when I only get 2 hours of sleep in a night, my ability to tell if what I'm saying is a great idea or if it makes me sound like a blithering idiot gets pretty compromised.
As a resident in Japan I 100% agree with this, but Japan also needs to end their issues with South Korea and make them a permanent ally. If there is a joint nuclear weapons development with South Korea this would be ideal in my eyes.
Daddy Yankee won't allow it while he has his boots on Japanese soil. He already did it with Taiwan, sabotaging their nuclear program to ensure they remain dependent forever, like vassals.
South Korea has now entered the chat. I'm sure this will do wonders for regional stability.
It will, nuclear weapons are the most successful defense. Look what happened to Ukraine after they gave up their nukes.
Yup. The reality is that simple; Nukes will guarantee a country's survival. Nobody will fuck with a nuclear-armed country.
Japan is surrounded by 3 nuclear-arm totalitarian states hostile to Japan. Most especially China since it's itching for revenge for what the CCP calls "century of humiliation" at the hands of the West and Japan.
Japan needs nukes, and most experts such as strategic analysts, professors or geopolitical scholars have come to agree on the same conclusion. People that disagree with that are simply willfully ignorant or misinformed on the realities of national security / deterrence and how geopolitics work.
I fucking hate that this shit makes sense. :(
They do and so does Australia. MAD is a real detterent.
I know South Korean people would not understand us, but we have absolutely no intention to attack them (again, and ever) - The general Japanese public only wants to be their friends if they ever allow us to be.
North Korea, it's not a lack of trying, but their hostility is not something we can manage by ourselves anymore. I am not supportive of us having a nuclear weapon - it's an antiquated technology with very little "political" or "science" effect anymore - we would prefer modern technology like kinetic bombardment from orbit with zero radioactive fallout.
For China... I have no comments; arguing with them on Reddit has been unproductive.
It's not that SK expects a Japan first strike, but it's that with Japan having a nuke, it erodes the nuclear umbrella protection from the US. It comes with a possible asterisk. If the relationship between SK and Japan worsens, SK can never be sure that if a nuclear capable Japan uses it, the US will respond in the same manner. That uncertainty is enough to compel SK to go nuclear.
Someone really expect US to provide any guarantee when facing another nuclear power? Think again.
The stability is lost because no one believes in US guarantee at all. Strongly suspected in 2014 and proved in 2022.
Everyone is on his own.
Edgy. But coming back to reality now, the world has enjoyed an unprecedented era of peace (Pax Americana) since WWII, due almost entirely to deterrence by US military might. Just because the US did not directly intervene when Ukraine, a country they had 0 military alliance with, was invaded, doesn't mean they would respond the same if an ally were invaded. In fact one could argue (Russia does) that the reason Ukraine was invaded when it was is because it was working towards becoming an official ally of the US which would've made invasion impossible.
Edit: Confused if I'm being downvoted by people who hate facts or just hate the US lol
I don't get it. Russia invaded Ukraine because they fear that a US aligned Ukraine would be impossible to conquer? So, they were going to invade them anyway... BTW I didn't downvoted you.
Didn’t the US convince Ukraine to give up its nuclear weapons in the first place?
Pax Americana is a myth created by Americans just like Pax Britannica and its predecessor Pax Romana.
It’s a myth made by empires to justify why they should remain empire.
you should consider remigration since you live within the so called "empire"(you know, in the bay area)
but to be serious:
it is important to note china has an actual history of being an empire! such as in the ming and qing dynasties
the united states in the contrary was a key force in forcing britain and france to decolonise, so if anything, the US is anti imperialist
You know of what he speaks, bigassorangegirl.
The US isn't really in the "protection" business anymore, though. The US believes in "might is right", has no interest in protecting democracies and doesn't seem to believe in the concept of "allies" anymore.
It seems unlikely the US would do anything other than run if China genuinely threatened SK or Japan. Unfortunately in this harsh new world it makes sense for those countries to possess their own nukes.
I mean, wouldn't that kind of already be the case with 5 eyes? Like yeah, Japan might not already have nukes of their own but I guarantee American nukes are already all over their coastline and waters. Anywhere the US Navy goes, there's lots of boom in tow. Pretty sure most of the US MBs in AUS are loaded to the brim too.
Nuclear weapons are actually feasible though. Rods from God are not.
Imagine you’re SK, the enemies to the north has nukes and now your former colonizer has nukes and you’re the only regional player with no nukes. They would be forced to develop their own nukes, because there’s no other option. But thinking that “SK doesnt need to worry because Japan just wants to be friends” is beyond delusional.
Yeah, given all the history and bad blood, I would not rely on a simple, "Trust me, bro!" from Japan.
The above comment is so funny “we have no intention of ever attacking again”
Like awww pinky promise?? Uwu
Japan still not officially admitted they are at fault for WW2 a d the invasions of China and they change their history lessons in school to sugar coat what they did They also pay respect to the generals and soliders that died in WW2 every year.
Untill they publicly apologize and change their history lesson to reflect what actually haoien in WW2 they can't be trusted.
Nuclear weapons very much do have a political effect still. Possessing one keeps you from being attacked conventionally.
Pakistan and India entered the chat.
Border spats not a full on invasion.
... yet.
As a former SK national, I understand. I think SK and Japan should do joint development, and have a system where both countries have independent missiles but have watchers in launch detection and missile command facilities.
Japan can never set foot on the Korean peninsula but at the same time needs a big enough rock to throw to deter any North Korean nuclear threat.
SK and Japan's fates are intertwined whether people in both countries like it or not.
Actually I'm going to be called crazy for saying this, but I think in order to heal past ties, each country should have a garrison of a company of soldiers in each others' nations as a sign of trust.
By that rationale, Korea experience far longer peace and prosperity by being aligned with China than Japan as China would step in to exert control on North Korea if the Kim regime is threatening local security interest.
That was absolutely what Hu Jintao did. When North Korea did nuclear testing, the PRC sent army units near the border and did a military exercise as a warning. Things are different now. North Korea is now a poison pill, a dog waiting to be unleashed so if the US intervenes in a Taiwan war, North Korea will ensure the US is stretched thin.
Then the solution is simple, South Korea should support a peaceful Chinese reunification in return for China to aid in a peaceful reunification of the Koreas.
No more Taiwan issue, less pawns for U.S. to start a conflict with China.
South Korea should know better than anyone else how it feels to have your own country ripped apart by a Western power.
1592 and 1895. Korea will never trust Japan.
Imagine if Spain was like, "We don't trust England. They attacked us 500 years ago! "
To be fair, there is a certain Spanish thing that the English never seem to expect.
Til 1895 was 500 years ago
The Spanish don't, they want Gibralter back 😂
I propose everyone in the world should have their own available nuclear arsenal. Including Ukraine and pakistan.
For peaceful purpose... of course..
Bullshit when your government openly accepts WW2 revisionism and genocide denialism.
The fact that Japan got pissed off about South Korea putting up a memorial about comfort women and getting your former Axis ally Germany to remove said memorial says everything about Japanese government view of South Korea, still view them no different than during WW2, not to be taken seriously.
Japan shouldn’t even have any military given what it had tried to do during and pre-WW2.
Japan never repented for its war crimes and thanks to your white washing, a large population of Japanese believes Japan was not the aggressor but actually the victim of WW2, what a joke.
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WAIT WHAT??? bitch live in the bay area!!! go get a job in tech or something, why tf do you care about whatever japan did in ww2
We are not this dumb
Bahahah
Maybe you guys should stop putting war criminals in shrines and paying respect to them first before claiming you aren’t interested in taking over Korea and rekindle the Japanese empire again
Restore power to the emperor, says leader of Japan’s rising hard-Right
Sure sure, y’all aren’t going to invade Korea again. Y’all just dusting off the old imperial flag for nostalgic memories.
"you guys"
You know 123,000,000 Japanese live there right ? Which one are you talking about
Jesus why some people can be this dumb
The Japanese government represents the people of Japan and carry out the will of the Japanese people even if a minority group doesn’t agree. Stop trying to shift attention.
And you guys is also correct usage when a majority of Japanese believe you weren’t the aggressor during WW2.
Right, the Chinese and Koreans were the aggressor during WW2 right?
Them 20 millions dead Chinese and Koreans triggered Japan to invade and brutalize their neighbors.
it wasnt 20 million
Bahahah
Prove it wasn’t
with the holocaust for example have clear evidence of the existence of a variety of death camps and mass shooting operations, that thus provides a definitive range of 5-6 million deaths, there are even logs from the german railway authority of the number of jews transported to be gassed
now moving on to china, what confirmed genocide has a massive range going from 2 million at the lowest, to 20 million at the highest? seems made up!!! (not to mention most of these numbers made by the story tellers are deaths from indirect causes)
Reddit user esperobbs has spoken. I for one am relieved to read this comment by esperobbs because for a while I thought developing weapons of mass destruction that can wipe out hundreds of thousands of people would be a step in the wrong direction.
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Kinetic bombardment is so, so far beyond the realms of practicality that it details the rest of your comment.
Orbital magazines are too vulnerable to be practical. Orbital launches per weapon are too expensive and time consuming. Accuracy is impossible within the constraints of a single city block; arguably even a single city itself.
stop denying the WW2 atrocities then.
Where in the above comment was a denial of WW2 atrocities?
Bonhoeffer theory of stupidity. Cant argue with anyone when nationality or ethnicity is on the line. No concessions are made. People will justify anythjng. Lack of integrity all around. God have mercy on their souls.
We already apologized 56 times over 70 years and have always been the stance of us commiting the atrocity - what more do you want
If you’re so peaceful , why do you want nukes ?
Nukes have brought about the most peaceful era in history. They are built for deterrence, not use. Basically a 100% defensive weapon unless you are suicidal.
Japan's population is dying and as a result their military power is about to fall off a cliff with a lack of young people to sustain it. They're tightening borders and making it harder for people to immigrate as well. In some ways it seems like Japan is on its way to becoming a nuclear hermit kingdom like NK.
Then that's the government fault for bad policy.
Your people said the same some 80 years ago, and created the Mushroom clouds phenomenon hoax. It will not surprise me you will do the same again, I guess killing and raping is your way of friendship to the SK people, but the North remembers.
End the rivalry with South Korea and jointly develop nuclear weapons.
Yea, people will obviously point finger at china but south korea will absolutely hold hands with china to shut this shit down if they actually move forward with it. The imperial army did so much war crimes that just the possibilities of japan re-arming would unite asia against them.
South Korea is already asking for nuclear subs, lol
The Japanese empire has been replaced by the Chinese empire.
Need to be stopped before the same thing happens again
This is an incredible deranged thing to say...
Not really if you know anything about modern China.
I'm literally a citizen of guangzhou 💀
Do you know more about here than me? xD
And I'm literally a citizen of Taiwan, who has spent a decade living in China and more years being threatened by it.
Judging how castrated China's news is, yeah I think I might know more about the nature of your country than you. But for this particular topics at hand, we just need to open your own textbook.
The White Terror has entered the chat
And that's why Taiwanese get rids of Chiang's regime after 90s democractic revolution.
"I don't live there current but I know more about your country than you who is an actual citizen"
Well at least you lived here so that's way more relevant than the average western that never put a foot on Asia but claims to know better than locals.
So, what's your point anyways? What makes you think China aims to do any of the deranged shit Japan did, all the impossibly inhuman acts and war crimes they committed and deny?
What's next? The ex German Nazi arguing about invading Poland "because they will do to us the shit we did to them but we deny" ?
Reading it is just gross, and sounds dangerous, they should remember in what position they are before daring to yap shit against us.
Because the now ruling party of China attacked the Chinese forces who fought of the Japanese and then progressed to put the Chinese people through more suffering than the Japanese ever did.
And you don't have to go further than reddit to get a taste for how blood thirsty many Chinese are.
And with all the history revisionism and the government drumming up hatred among an in many aspects uneducated population it makes sense to worry
I have been living in and out of China from 2001 all the way to this year.
Modern Japan is not the country that teaches elementray school kids how to destroy enemy or strap a mock bomb on their back and tell them to reenact sucide bomber.
Modern Japan is also not the country that has nationalistic government propaganda slap on nearly single corners of public space.
Modern Japan is also not country that has a single nationalized textbook that denies the atrocities it committed.
I can go on. And no, I genuinely do not believe that you know more about your country than the people who actually need to deal with your government officials.
Dont bother lol. Just look at your comment insights. Its all americans and canadians in this sub. Only 10% actually from japan. Most people on this sub dont even know how anti-military/war the average japanese citizens are. Only brainbroken westerners that have zero stakes in war breaking out in asia are looking at this like its a good thing.
It's a common trait I see with all the Asian subs, just random non Asians LARPing as a local so they can say the most awful shit about another race(s).
Also, "happen again" like, killing millions of civilians? Doing the holocaust of Asia? Raping every woman no matter the age they come across? Or right this is Japan sub, that never happened, thier current administration is just an extension of the people that denies all their crimes but also hope to commit them again 💀
This comment is textbook strawman especially @ the second half of it.
Are you talking about the current ruling party of China or the Japanese?
America has withdrawn from international politics. America wants to abandon its relationships with its allies so it can dominate and control its backyard, and allow Russia and China to dominate their own backyards in the same way. no one can blame Japan for wanting and needing nuclear weapons in this new political vacuum.
This.
I can blame the Japanese government for wanting nuclear weapons, absolutely. No one needs a nuclear weapon, and no one should have them.
The US and Russia are "launch on warn." Presumably China, India, Pakistan and Israel have the same stance. This means that if Japan deploys a nuclear weapon, at least one of those countries, and probably all of them, will launch enough nuclear weapons to kill the vast majority of organisms on the planet.
There is no safety in keeping a nuclear arsenal. There is no safety for anyone as long as nuclear weapons exist. They are suicidal madness itself.
America is so entrenched in Japan and Asia.There are hundreds of bases with over 100k personnel. The statements you make are so comically overblown. Though I'm also pro give Japan nuclear weapons, why not tbh
The US bases are for the benefit of the US, not for the benefit of the country they are located in. The US now believes in "might is right" and no longer has any ideology regarding protecting democracies. The US has made it clear they do not want to be involved in wars protecting other countries.
You'd have to be very naive if you were the Japanese government and believed the US would protect Japan if there was a threat from a more powerful nation (i.e China).
It's a little bit more complex than that lol. Influence over regions vital but yeah ofc the american soft and hard power is in flux. So many proxy wars going on militarly and more importantly imo economically. Also so many disputed islands and regions like senkaku that will test alliances in terms of reaction and will. It's a nuanced and complex situation.
I'm unclear from what you've written whether you agree or disagree with me.
It feels like you disagree with what I wrote as you use the phrase "lol" when responding to what I've written. But, the rest of your post doesn't dispute my argument and doesn't really say anything at all.
Do you think the US would protect Japan with military direct military action against China if China took direct military action against Japan? Do you think America would risk entering a war that they might lose for the sake of protecting another country?
Not the guy you replied to, but 100% yes they would. For example, if Japan were to be attacked, all U.S. military personnel at Okinawa are ordered to stay in place and fight to defend the island, as opposed to shifting assets off-island- which is a recent change in US strategic policy. I haven't looked at any of your posts other than what's posted here, but from your comments itt I can only assume you are a CCP propaganda account.
They want the bases as it’s good for them but their policies are becoming more and more isolationist. Americans need to do what’s best for Americans. No need to pretend this isn’t happening.
I mean that's what they're saying but it's obviously not true.
The issue is that the USA is not a dependable ally anymore.
Nuclear proliferations back, the non-proliferation treaty be damned.
This comes on the back of South Korea looking to build nuclear submarines.
This is what happens when the so called superpower decides to renege on its security agreements and call it quits.
Who will get to having enough fissile material to build their own warhead(s) for testing first - Japan or South Korea…
It'd be pretty hilarious if they agreed to build nukes together, and not entirely impossible give how both can be ruthlessly pragmatic when necessary.
Considering what happened when Ukraine gave theirs up, this really isn't even up for debate. Unfortunately, as long as a single country has them, everyone else can reasonably be expected to also want them to defend themselves. It's a very sad statement on humanity, but here we are.
I agree. According to the Japanese Wikipedia, the Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances was signed in 1994, where Ukraine agreed to give up its nuclear weapons in exchange for security assurances from the United States, the United Kingdom, and Russia. However, it is widely recognized that this agreement was broken by Russia’s actions between 2014 and 2022.
People keep saying this but they are not the same. Ukraine didn’t have American bases strewn everywhere as well as an American defense agreement.
Do you actually trust America? Regime change is always a risk in any country, and yesterday's allies can become tomorrow's enemies very quickly, with very little warning.
Not sure why this keeps getting on my feed:
Living in Canada: It's also against an agreement to threaten to annex your closest ally. What happens if Americans simply don't do it and don't come to Japan's defense? A security deal is simply a expectation that this would happen. If they don't do it, what then? You end like up like Armenia with it's "deal" with Russia.
Even something such as nukes will become obselete one day, but until that happens, they're still a deterrent.
An alliance only matters if said party would actually follow through on it. Japan should secure itself more than promises made through tough tweets and photo ops to something that can be felt and used if needed.
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I think it has to be split into two categories. First is if you trust that having US bases is a massive deterrent and would've helped prevent or entirely prevented Russian shenanigans. Second is if you trust the US to act accordingly/responsibly in the event of shenanigans. Imho the first one is a resounding yes and the second has only recently become questionable.
Taken to the fullest extent the question becomes if the US did have bases in Ukraine under Obama in 2014 would it have prevented the annexation of Crimea?
So your solution is nuclear proliferation? I guess when everyone’s MAD, then no one’s MAD.
Nuclear proliferation was guaranteed the moment Russia invaded ukraine.
Thats the point.
Theres no solution.
It's a consequence of the current american foreign policy.
What would your solution be? The US has fundamentally shifted its view of the world and doesn't believe in allies anymore, and therefore other countries can't rely on it for protection.
Isn't possessing nukes the best form of self defense available to countries in these circumstances?
One might forgive Japan for having a teensy bit more experience and motivation to move on this topic, especially where America is concerned (now that a war-mongering batshit crazy administration is at the helm poking the world more and more to see what they can get away with).
Of course it’s the same. Do you really think Ukraine would have been invaded if it had retained the nuclear weapons it gave up?
In the past having US bases meant the country could expect protection, but clearly that's not the case anymore. The US believes in "might is right" now, has no interest in protecting democracies, and therefore would be expected to up and leave if China ever actually did make an aggressive move against Japan or SK.
The rational option for those countries is to possess nukes.
I'm not sure I would trust Trump to follow up on a defense agreement, especially if Russia was somehow involved. I want less nukes in this world but I can't fault Japan for feeling the need
Who is attacking Japan? China is not and has never attacked Japan or are counting the Mongols as Chinese this time? Reddit never seem to agree when the Mongol invasion should be counted as a Chinese invasion or not.
However Japan did attack China taking its land and killing around 20 million Chinese, but again who is threatening to attack Japan?
Ukraine and Japan not even comparable, but that would take nuance and research, not needed for Reddit
If you are a country(good or bad) that wants sovereignty (from western influence or otherwise) yes you need nukes. Its not exatctly news and probably not a good lesson for the world to have to learn but the more america devolves the more poignant it gets.
Nukes serve the purpose of a deterrent, no sane leader would actually use one today unless they want to be isolated like NK and neutralized. The ambiguity of having one without actually having one, is just as powerful.
I think it's less about being isolated and more the fact that the world will literally end.
If basically any nuclear power beefs with another and launches the whole world will end. It's going to trigger a series of really complex (but sometimes faulty) early warning systems where the default for a lot of countries is just to let fly because you have at max a couple minutes to do something before you're wiped out.
Like launching a nuclear first strike in the modern era is very likely to be the second to last thing human beings ever do.
Russia spent a good deal of their early invasion of Ukraine pretending Putin was insane enough to use his nukes, so the rest of the world should just let him have his way. The purpose might be deterrent, but deferring what? In the hands of an unethical regime, "nuclear deterrent" means deterring not letting the regime have whatever it wants. Nukes are toys for bullies.
I’m not surprised. The Ukraine situation and the uncertainty with US upholding its commitments make nukes the only option. In this new world you have to protect yourself.
Personally, I believe that every man, woman, and child on the planet should have a nuke. It’s the only way to ensure no one uses a nuke.
There is one country that tested that theory, modelled it using gun ownership. Turns out doing that all you’ll get is a lot of nutcases with nukes.
Nonsense. And even if something like that happens we’ll just give everyone a second nuke. Easy peasy.
I need that nuke ... for duck hunting!
nothing is more exciting than an occassional school nuking.
At least a nuke will get rid of the mosquitoes, unlike an AR15.
Behind the Bastards is officially leaking into the general reddit discourse.
What episode
The last series of episodes titled "The Men Who Might Have Killed Us All". Robert makes the same joke in it about everyone having a nuke as a jab at the people who say "a polite society is an armed society" because the entire episode is about people proving exactly the opposite.
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She meant to say to make the fact they’ve had them for decades, public.
That's uh...a bit of a policy reversal isn't it.
basically all the countries will want one. this is like christmas. one for south korea, one for japan, one for philippine, one for Vietnam, heck, i think my next door neighbour just had a baby this year, he’d love to have one too. just for good luck
As a student of ancient history and thought, I’m reminded of a line attributed to Homer’s Odyssey: “The blade itself incites to deeds of violence.” Whether rendered exactly or through later translation, the insight is old and sharp—tools of violence are never neutral. They shape the mind long before they are used. That line frames the problem of Japan going nuclear quite succinctly.
Nuclear weapons are not inert insurance policies sitting quietly on a shelf; they impose their own logic. Once the blade exists, every hand that holds it must think in terms of preemption, escalation, and acceptable annihilation. Strategy bends around the weapon, not the other way around.
Japan, uniquely, has lived inside the consequences of that logic. To say “we should possess nuclear weapons” is to argue that Hiroshima and Nagasaki taught the wrong lesson—that the error was being unarmed rather than the existence of the blade itself. That’s a grim misreading of history.
Japan’s postwar restraint hasn’t been naïveté; it’s been a refusal to let the worst invention in human history define what security means. You don’t stabilize the world by adding more blades to the circle. You stabilize it by remembering, painfully and clearly, that some tools corrupt every purpose they claim to serve.
Poland, Sweden, Germany, Denmark as well.
We Nordics should get that Kingdom in the North running up first.
Most of Europe is weeks to months away from having nukes given material stockpiles and industrial capabilities.
She's right.
The ideal situation would be no one have nuclear weapons, but if that's impossible and one side has them, the other must also have them.
Makes sense
From protests when US nuclear armed submarines entered Japanese waters and shutting down every reactor in the country after the Fukushima disaster to now, this is wild. While Abe was alive, he was really hoping to push Japan this direction, but with how utterly unreliable the US is to maintain any of the current security agreements now, this has only accelerated it.
If Israel is allowed to bomb Iran for it's own nuclear weapon development, what do you think will happen to Japan or South Korea if they pursue one lol?
Even tho I completely disagree with her politics she’s correct about this.
Japan needs to expel the US military bases before this ever happens though.
Ah yes, I get to sit back and read the level headed responses of the local Reddit warriors. Let me get my ocha.
This. Some people really don’t know anything
South korea should also
Should have done this decades earlier.
nukes aren't useful at this point unless if it is to deter North Korea. China wouldn't use nukes first since they have conventional weapon options. No need to nuke Tokyo when they can send a few thousand missiles instead. And if Japan goes nuclear first, the Chinese have way more nukes to respond with.
A few thousand missiles can only do superficial damage to a country the size of Japan. In terms of yield, that would only be a fraction of Hiroshima, which was a miniscule nuke by today's standards.
missiles are perfectly fine for taking out airbases, port facilities, utilities, etc. it doesn't have to be strategic strikes like bombing 90% of the homes in Nagoya as in WW2
And a country the size of Japan has thousands of such facilities, many requiring dozens if not hundreds of conventional missiles to disable. Even assuming all the missiles reach their targets without being destroyed, jammed, or otherwise missing, a few thousand is not nearly enough.
power plants and water treatment facilities are more centralized than that
and thats the point of using cheap weapons like their concrete missile, the defenders run out of interceptors first
Military targets are the opposite and there are numerous targets that China would have to pick and choose from. Terrorize the civilian population and risk military reprisal? Or destroy military targets and not affect the country much at all and risk reprisal anyways?
Their concrete missile doesn't have the range to reach most of mainland Japan.
damned if they do, damned if they don't. no point on restricting to military targets because its not like Japan would back down if they just struck US bases in Japan or JSDF bases.
tokyo is within range if you have launches from northern manchuria, doubt the Russians would say no if the Chinese asked to overfly a little bit near vladivostok
Then you again run into the problem of only doing superficial damage. Japan is far too large of a country to be significantly affected by a conventional missile barrage of realistic proportion.
not a single barrage, it would be long term with continuous strikes until the war concludes
Yeah nukes are state survival tools. You only use them when you feel the country is about to fall to an invader.
To quote the French nuclear doctrine (from the Cold War) : Russia has enough nukes to kill 800 millions french people, if there was 800 millions French people. But we can kill 80 millions russian people and that's enough to make them think twice.
And yes, it includes a nuclear warning shot (even if you attack with conventional weapons, they can send a small nuke on a military base to show they mean business).
that's in a retaliatory or 2nd strike context, France is not going to commit suicide and nuke Russia first
Missiles with conventional warhead are only for targeting strategic sites to win conventional warfare and are quite useless in demolishing urban areas as they only have limited damage and are too expensive (and limited in quantity) to be used on non-strategic targets. Thousand of missiles on Tokyo across the sea with significant portions of them intercepted won’t do much to Japan, while it would be a huge waste of resources for China. What really matters is supersonic missiles with nuke warheads. One good hit can paralyze the entire country. This is why nuke matters. And Japan can’t rely on China’s no nuke first policy. If they get desperate enough, they could nuke once on Tokyo,and the entire Japanese government shuts down completely. Japan needs a means to retaliate in this scenario. And when Japan starts making nukes, they don’t stop at 100. They make enough to go MAD with China - and the method of delivery would be quite easy since they are so close to one another.
Given the bad blood with China and general distrust between Chinese and Japanese populations, it would be scary if Japan go from 0 to 100 citing China as the primary threat. This is a narrative shift because they used to use North Korea for anything defensive and militaristic. China would definitely escalate this and it will be a race to the bottom.
Many westerners are so misinformed about China. China will not attack Japan.
One thing i can get behind.
1982 UN session on nuclear disarmament - Japan says "never again" to nuclear weapons.
2025 on a random Thursday - Japan says "we need nukes"
Amazing how just a few generations go by and everyone forgets.
I wonder if Takaichi has even been to the Hiroshima museum.
Japan should absolutely protect themselves, but everyone owning nukes is not the solution. Its the cold war all over again.
Exactly:(
I'm all for this. As an American we have clearly abandoned our allies. The Pax Americana is ending and the empire is collapsing in on itself. Our inability to provide security in exchange for economic subservience from our allies is only going to get worse.
Do not trust us. Japan is alone. Rearm.
They could arm themselves again, and what would that accomplish? They can have nuclear weapons and still be a client state to China, which is the likely outcome if they move away from America. NK isn’t an independent country despite their ownership of nuclear weapons. So what is the goal?
House of Dynamite
Good luck getting the public to stomach it. Especially people in Nagasaki. NGOs for peace, and the like. That's why the office says, because if she said it, there would be a firestorm of public outcry.
They already have nuclear weapons. Have had for decades. They just want to be able to tout it publicly.
How does this help the birth rate or rice prices????
Has Godzilla taught us nothing
She’s speed running worst PM of all-time
Right? Each time she says some intentionally inflammatory thing that will only make life more complicated for her citizens you think, that's it done, she's made the point that she is "tough" and will now stop doing stupid things.
Then, inevitably, you're wrong and she goes back for more.
The name of her game seems to be "pushing the Overton Window as much as possible".
The only result will be that she will throw herself out of the window, me thinks...In that case, good riddance.
The new PM sure says a lot of things
I know when I only get 2 hours of sleep in a night, my ability to tell if what I'm saying is a great idea or if it makes me sound like a blithering idiot gets pretty compromised.
Pretty sure they can create it in 6 months or so
Every countries on earth will rush to acquire nuclear weapons.
Japan doesnt need them, Takaichi does to satisfy her ego.
WTAF. What a stupid fucking thing to be claiming.
On a brighter note, Kyoto hotel prices are affordable again!
She wants to be in Trump's new club
Agree. They should be pointing at Beijing
As a resident in Japan I 100% agree with this, but Japan also needs to end their issues with South Korea and make them a permanent ally. If there is a joint nuclear weapons development with South Korea this would be ideal in my eyes.
Probably won’t happen and if Japan goes war again, they will probably erase South Korea. That’s 1 of many “whys” Japan shouldn’t have it.
Never again!
"Never? Again!"
Good luck getting the approval from the US government on that
Just give trump a fancy golden bauble and he'll go weak at the knees. It worked for South Korea.
Oh shit…
This bitch has a huge ego for sure.
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Yeah this is enough to trigger war
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Daddy Yankee won't allow it while he has his boots on Japanese soil. He already did it with Taiwan, sabotaging their nuclear program to ensure they remain dependent forever, like vassals.
Weren't two enough?
Simple fact: Chinese navy is strong enough to offer Japanese a North Korean life.