Ah yes, back in the day when it was Irish people who were stereotyped for blowing shit up. But then the troubles ended, 9/11 happened and the stereotype was passed onto the Arabs.
As someone who grew up in London during the 80s and 90s, I confirm this. We'd get attacked by neighbours, my mother had a miscarriage once after a neighbour attacked her on our doorstep. We'd get called terrorists, IRA scum, etc. right up until the late 90s. Then the racists got a bit quiet, sticking to their usual crap towards non white people, and by the time the 2000s came around, they were at Muslims. It helped teach me a lesson about the futility of racsism
If I'm being honest, racists and bigots will never run out of excuses to lash out at entire groups of people. Just like you said, once the old stereotype goes away, they've already found a new one.
Side note to your comment, I only found out there is a cocktail called an irish car bomb in the last few years. My brother and I were working in the US at the time at a hotel with a bar. Someone asked for one and he thought they were trying to make a joke or something. It's so weird, I've never heard of it since
I went to an Irish bar abroad that sold them!! Myself and the brother's jaws dropped. Never heard of it before but I've come across them a few times since abroad. Do we have that drink in Ireland under a different name?
Lol my dad worked in a bar in NY briefly & had similar happen because he's Irish - one time he served them 2 tall glasses that he set on fire & told them here's your twin towers!
I honestly think people get performatively upset about the whole Irish car bomb cocktail thing. I mean, id get the outrage if it was named after a specific bomb, like an Omagh Bomb cocktail or whatever would be horrifically offensive, but car bombs in general, like it or not, were associated with this part of the world for a long time in a kind of abstract way. Also, it is kind of a great name for a cocktail, its just a pity the cocktail itself is so shite
The book is so weird lol. That's the only irish reference in it but there is lots of odd stuff in their predictions section. Was not expecting the heavens gate reference
It must have been around 2006/2007 when I was up in Armagh visiting a cousin of mine… went into Argos and got a tamagotchi each.
When they handed me mine it had a Union Jack on the front of it. I asked for a different one and they kindly obliged. I would have been about 10 or 11. I must have wanted an IRAgotchi.
As someone who had several of them back in the early 00s, almost all the original versions were sold here. However based on just my friends and I, I think the vast majority drowned in the washing machine over the years, as none of us (or our parents) were really used to having to check pockets for small electronics yet.
I mean I'm not offended, but I do make uncharitable assumptions about someone's intelligence if their knowledge of Irish people starts and stops at 'wild, violent and blows up people who try to discipline them'.
It's different coming from an Irish person, because I can safely assume they do know better and are only putting it on.
Yes. I'm not offended either. It's kinda funny, and it's from a different time when we were discriminated abroad, especially in the 90s. In the 90s my uncle was held up at an airport along with his friend because they had Irish accents and their holiday coincided with a royal visit to the country. Local media there got involved and they were released. They were even asked where two young lads from Ireland would get the money to travel to Australia. Pure ignorance.
Ah yes, back in the day when it was Irish people who were stereotyped for blowing shit up. But then the troubles ended, 9/11 happened and the stereotype was passed onto the Arabs.
As someone who grew up in London during the 80s and 90s, I confirm this. We'd get attacked by neighbours, my mother had a miscarriage once after a neighbour attacked her on our doorstep. We'd get called terrorists, IRA scum, etc. right up until the late 90s. Then the racists got a bit quiet, sticking to their usual crap towards non white people, and by the time the 2000s came around, they were at Muslims. It helped teach me a lesson about the futility of racsism
If I'm being honest, racists and bigots will never run out of excuses to lash out at entire groups of people. Just like you said, once the old stereotype goes away, they've already found a new one.
I'm really sorry you and your family went through that. Something I do struggle to understand sometimes is why people can't treat others with kindness
Side note to your comment, I only found out there is a cocktail called an irish car bomb in the last few years. My brother and I were working in the US at the time at a hotel with a bar. Someone asked for one and he thought they were trying to make a joke or something. It's so weird, I've never heard of it since
See also Black and Tan
I went to an Irish bar abroad that sold them!! Myself and the brother's jaws dropped. Never heard of it before but I've come across them a few times since abroad. Do we have that drink in Ireland under a different name?
We've definitely had it in Ireland under the same name since I started drinking just before the turn of the millennium.
I worked with an American guy who told me this. But he was like, aw you know that cocktail irish car bomb? Like he thought we had come up with it.
I was like, yeahhh, that would not go down well if asked for that in a pub back home.
I'm also northern...and from omagh 😭
It's well known in the US. I was asked for it a few times working a brief stint as an Irish bartender in NYC
They think it's pretty funny and then they HATE it when you ask them for a nine eleven.
Lol my dad worked in a bar in NY briefly & had similar happen because he's Irish - one time he served them 2 tall glasses that he set on fire & told them here's your twin towers!
Should have given them a Manhattan mixed with a Kamikaze and called it a 9/11.
That should be the price $9.11
I honestly think people get performatively upset about the whole Irish car bomb cocktail thing. I mean, id get the outrage if it was named after a specific bomb, like an Omagh Bomb cocktail or whatever would be horrifically offensive, but car bombs in general, like it or not, were associated with this part of the world for a long time in a kind of abstract way. Also, it is kind of a great name for a cocktail, its just a pity the cocktail itself is so shite
This is hilarious tbh. I don’t find it offensive but maybe it’s because I wasn’t alive around then
I was alive and find it hilarious. I want to read the rest of the book now.
The book is so weird lol. That's the only irish reference in it but there is lots of odd stuff in their predictions section. Was not expecting the heavens gate reference
https://preview.redd.it/hw97223a5sbg1.png?width=405&format=png&auto=webp&s=35d2b5759341973b07746ac46a1b258eb1686a7f
The full name of it is: Tamagotchi egg : the unofficial guide, intentionally useless advice for the shell-shocked parent
It's online but not sure if I can link it
I assume that's a typo where they wrote nosferatu rather than nostradamus
Same, my jaw dropped and I just laughed but I can see why it would piss someone off too.
now we're just about leprechauns, rainbows and top,' o' the mornin' to ye.....
What happened on the 9th November?
Berlin Wall came down. It wasn't all done with sledgehammers...
It must have been around 2006/2007 when I was up in Armagh visiting a cousin of mine… went into Argos and got a tamagotchi each.
When they handed me mine it had a Union Jack on the front of it. I asked for a different one and they kindly obliged. I would have been about 10 or 11. I must have wanted an IRAgotchi.
I know the exact tamagotchi your talking about. This one
https://preview.redd.it/f8j0eg4j8sbg1.png?width=640&format=png&auto=webp&s=9068b8908c5e7fa1a058f315ff1999c3ab48f377
I was looking for some good deals on them lately. Someone had one of the union jack ones at a great price but eh, not really one I was interested in.
I got my first tamagotchi in argos too actually years and years ago. Looking back it was weird you couldn't pick the colour but that was argos
As a side note it's good to know these older tamagtochis were actually sold in ireland. I wasn't sure. I rarely see them for sale online in ireland
They were actually in Aldi recently theres a few left in my local Aldi, i think they were €18
Thanks, there are lots of rereleases nowadays and they're great, I just meant people selling secondhand ones from the 2000s :)
As someone who had several of them back in the early 00s, almost all the original versions were sold here. However based on just my friends and I, I think the vast majority drowned in the washing machine over the years, as none of us (or our parents) were really used to having to check pockets for small electronics yet.
Such a pity but I can relate my siblings and I had a few DS games that had the same fate. They surprisingly still worked even if the label was wrecked
That's got to be from an American version of the toy.
These days it would be considered too racist, instead the Irish tamagotchi now lives in your pocket because that's the only place it can afford
I love that your reading an unofficial tamagotchi book for no reason 🤣
you're the first person to point it out which I'm surprised about lol
You wouldn't happen to be neurodivergent would ya? 🤓 (very on brand/not a dis-i am)
Not diagnosed but I have my suspicions 😅
Hahaha love it.
I feel like I saw the terrorist stereotype so much more when I was younger. I kinda feel like it's disappearing.
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I mean I'm not offended, but I do make uncharitable assumptions about someone's intelligence if their knowledge of Irish people starts and stops at 'wild, violent and blows up people who try to discipline them'.
It's different coming from an Irish person, because I can safely assume they do know better and are only putting it on.
Yes. I'm not offended either. It's kinda funny, and it's from a different time when we were discriminated abroad, especially in the 90s. In the 90s my uncle was held up at an airport along with his friend because they had Irish accents and their holiday coincided with a royal visit to the country. Local media there got involved and they were released. They were even asked where two young lads from Ireland would get the money to travel to Australia. Pure ignorance.
Likely because an Irishman didn’t write that joke, and it was likely malicious.
Yeah we joke. This is written by a presumably non-Irish person based on a stereotype.
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Sure, and they'd be well within their rights to be offended, even if it's a stereotype they themselves joke about
Some people are just really determined to be offended
Hilarious!
Thank you for this because now me and my friends will be quoting IRAgotchi for the rest of time
Jaysis the 90s were just beautiful
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO