If that's what you believe, you're free to vote for politicians who agree with you. My opinion is that escalating an issue via a TD when he's clearly in the wrong is an indication that he'll integrate well into Irish culture, though I'm concerned that he didn't phone Liveline.
It is weird, I wouldn’t fly to France and do a driving test there if I was planning on moving there. I’d do a test in my home country and just exchange it in whatever country I’m moving to. Most countries have licence exchanges and also, if he’s not a constituent/resident here in Ireland how did he pick a TD to make a submission and why did the TD even make it ?
That’s fair if that’s the case but then in relation to the 10 lessons. Did he land over do all 10 one week and expect a test the same week or back and forth and then had this planned. Obviously not asking you but just the questions that it raised to me that’s weird
You need to have your provisional at least 6 months along with the 12 lessons before you can even apply for a test date so I'm not sure how people can do what the person from this article did, obviously we don't have all the info
all US States require that anyone setting up residence in the State get licensed by the new State they are living in. That must occur within 30–60 days.
Do all countries have a straightforward licence exchange? Maybe they have family or friends they’re staying with and picked that TD? Idk I see it as practical not weird
If traveling to another country to do the provisional test, wait for you licence travel back do 10 lessons then travel back and do a full test is practical to you we lead very different lives.
If they have family or friends here and travel back and forth, I can see it being practical. I don’t regularly travel back and forth to any country with the intention of moving there so it wouldn’t apply to me
Well I know you can't just transfer a US license to an Irish one, I've a friend from the States and he has to do 12 lessons and a test here before they'll give him an Irish license. Maybe within the EU? idk really
Ireland has a list of swappable driving licenses that includes most but not all of the First World - the most obvious exceptions are the US, a few Canadian provinces and most of the non-EU bits of South-East Europe.
An applicant who had a driving license for 2 years from one of those places would have a reduced requirement for driving lessons (6 one hour lessons). I'm not aware of a limit on the number of those lessons that can be done in a single day, but even if it's one, they could be completed in a pair of two night visits to Ireland. If you assume the driver is from a country with a low-cost airline connection to Ireland and already has friends/family here, it does seem very practical.
Funny, I asked. I got told sit on it and swivel and waited 8 months. So yes, in my experience, our TDs are useless and waste their time on anything but the people living in this country.
So to be clear, those conversations go something like this:
Learner to TD: Can you help me get a retest quickly
TD: of course, kiddo!
TD to RSA: Please expedite retest for the gobshite who came with Sandals.
RSA: No
TD to Learner: I did everything I could my friend. I fought hard but it didn't work out this time. Please don't forget to vote me next time. Cheers, bye.
Another one they love to use is when an older person is applying for a grant or filling any kind of paperwork (that they are perfectly entitled to).
Older person asks TD for help with it, they come over and watch the person fill in the form, look it over, ya that looks good. Then they take it away and mention “I’ll work on that for you”.
TD puts it in the post or drops it into wherever it’s supposed to go to, does nothing special just sends it to where it’s supposed to go. Comes back a few weeks/months later asking did that thing get sorted for you? Oh it did, that’s great, don’t forget to look after me now in the next election.
Encountered this with a few of them when I was going for planning and having a nightmare dealing with the planner who kept making up their own rules and changing them every time it went to her, my father in law asked a few of them to help out. They did feck all, they didn’t want to spend more than a minute on the phone to me, just cutting across me saying “that’s fine now, I’ve heard enough, I can work with that”.
Got planning a year later and my father in law still brings out the aul “ah sure they were a great help with your thing, probably wouldn’t have got it without him.”
I used to get shown facebook posts by a cllr somewhere bragging about helping people renew their passports. That's like our most efficient public service; there was nothing to be done!
That's terrible and you'll still get people saying "Don't say anything bad about that fella in public, you never know when you might need him for something"
I work in healthcare for children and the amount of time spent having to reply to endless TD queries and PQs is infuriating. Especially when 99.9% of queries are things we can answer directly for parents such as “where is my child on the wait list”
Our local FG TD sent Christmas messages to everyone in the constituency using Dail paper and envelopes.
I know it's a small thing, but I thought (1) this cheapsake wouldn't use his own money and (2) what a fucking waste it is if half the TDs do this every year
Well, yeah? I know of someone who crashed her new BMW because she was wearing flip flops, one came off and got stuck under the brake pedal and she rear ended another car
If this is what TDs expend energy on it's no wonder so little progress is made on more important things. The RSA can be criticised for other things but not this - they're right to refuse people like this.
My mam made dress up for the test because “It’s never bad to make a good impression.”
Years ago now and it was just a shirt and trousers but still. With how mercurial people can be why not give yourself every chance of getting the person on your side?
I think there is but I'd assume this lad was kind of an inbetweener at the time he tried take the test. As in he wasn't in the new country long enough for residency there so was still technically resident here.
We’ve probably all done it (nip to the shop etc.) in summer but there is a risk the floppier versions get stuck between the ground, your foot & the accelerator hence why it’s not a good idea to wear them, even if it is highly unlikely/fortunate.
Would have thought this was fairly common knowledge. The RSA have released a few warnings over the years about not wearing them while driving.
Not sure if same applied to heels but should be, had someone reverse into another car before due to their heels getting caught.
While he wasn’t living in the country but plans to move here next year. Sounds weird overall
Doesn’t sound that weird, it’s literally explained right there that he was trying to get it sorted on a trip here before moving here permanently.
A TD should not be acting on behalf of a non resident for fucks sake.
It’s a clown show.
If that's what you believe, you're free to vote for politicians who agree with you. My opinion is that escalating an issue via a TD when he's clearly in the wrong is an indication that he'll integrate well into Irish culture, though I'm concerned that he didn't phone Liveline.
Wow, Your username lives up to your stupidity.
Coming from the guy who’s last post is “WHY IS THE SUN HOTTER IN IRELAND THAN IN HOTTER COUNTRIES”
🫵🤣
Well yours doesn't. You're not cool man.
.Fair enough, teaches me to not post when I’m a drunk idiot. I apologise.
It is weird, I wouldn’t fly to France and do a driving test there if I was planning on moving there. I’d do a test in my home country and just exchange it in whatever country I’m moving to. Most countries have licence exchanges and also, if he’s not a constituent/resident here in Ireland how did he pick a TD to make a submission and why did the TD even make it ?
It's possible he wants to be a Taxi driver. You need to have an Irish licence for a year before you can apply for the spsv test.
That’s fair if that’s the case but then in relation to the 10 lessons. Did he land over do all 10 one week and expect a test the same week or back and forth and then had this planned. Obviously not asking you but just the questions that it raised to me that’s weird
You need to have your provisional at least 6 months along with the 12 lessons before you can even apply for a test date so I'm not sure how people can do what the person from this article did, obviously we don't have all the info
Yes you’re correct in that. Not sure how it works either, not expecting anyone to have any answers. All I said was that it sounds weird.
all US States require that anyone setting up residence in the State get licensed by the new State they are living in. That must occur within 30–60 days.
Do all countries have a straightforward licence exchange? Maybe they have family or friends they’re staying with and picked that TD? Idk I see it as practical not weird
If traveling to another country to do the provisional test, wait for you licence travel back do 10 lessons then travel back and do a full test is practical to you we lead very different lives.
If they have family or friends here and travel back and forth, I can see it being practical. I don’t regularly travel back and forth to any country with the intention of moving there so it wouldn’t apply to me
Well I know you can't just transfer a US license to an Irish one, I've a friend from the States and he has to do 12 lessons and a test here before they'll give him an Irish license. Maybe within the EU? idk really
Ireland has a list of swappable driving licenses that includes most but not all of the First World - the most obvious exceptions are the US, a few Canadian provinces and most of the non-EU bits of South-East Europe.
An applicant who had a driving license for 2 years from one of those places would have a reduced requirement for driving lessons (6 one hour lessons). I'm not aware of a limit on the number of those lessons that can be done in a single day, but even if it's one, they could be completed in a pair of two night visits to Ireland. If you assume the driver is from a country with a low-cost airline connection to Ireland and already has friends/family here, it does seem very practical.
Sounds extremely weird considering he's not a constituent of this country yet gets better representation than most who are living here, Irish or not!
I actually think most who are living here could easily ask their TD to ask the RSA about their test, so how is it better representation?
Funny, I asked. I got told sit on it and swivel and waited 8 months. So yes, in my experience, our TDs are useless and waste their time on anything but the people living in this country.
Sounds like you have poor TDs, remember that at the ballot box
We do unfortunately. I've voted for other before but FF/FG always win.
So to be clear, those conversations go something like this:
Learner to TD: Can you help me get a retest quickly
TD: of course, kiddo!
TD to RSA: Please expedite retest for the gobshite who came with Sandals.
RSA: No
TD to Learner: I did everything I could my friend. I fought hard but it didn't work out this time. Please don't forget to vote me next time. Cheers, bye.
Excellent use of everyone's time.
Another one they love to use is when an older person is applying for a grant or filling any kind of paperwork (that they are perfectly entitled to). Older person asks TD for help with it, they come over and watch the person fill in the form, look it over, ya that looks good. Then they take it away and mention “I’ll work on that for you”.
TD puts it in the post or drops it into wherever it’s supposed to go to, does nothing special just sends it to where it’s supposed to go. Comes back a few weeks/months later asking did that thing get sorted for you? Oh it did, that’s great, don’t forget to look after me now in the next election.
Encountered this with a few of them when I was going for planning and having a nightmare dealing with the planner who kept making up their own rules and changing them every time it went to her, my father in law asked a few of them to help out. They did feck all, they didn’t want to spend more than a minute on the phone to me, just cutting across me saying “that’s fine now, I’ve heard enough, I can work with that”. Got planning a year later and my father in law still brings out the aul “ah sure they were a great help with your thing, probably wouldn’t have got it without him.”
I used to get shown facebook posts by a cllr somewhere bragging about helping people renew their passports. That's like our most efficient public service; there was nothing to be done!
That's terrible and you'll still get people saying "Don't say anything bad about that fella in public, you never know when you might need him for something"
Just tell your dad you did vote for them to shut him up. It’s a secret ballot.
I work in healthcare for children and the amount of time spent having to reply to endless TD queries and PQs is infuriating. Especially when 99.9% of queries are things we can answer directly for parents such as “where is my child on the wait list”
Our local FG TD sent Christmas messages to everyone in the constituency using Dail paper and envelopes.
I know it's a small thing, but I thought (1) this cheapsake wouldn't use his own money and (2) what a fucking waste it is if half the TDs do this every year
You know TDs have an allowance for sending letters or leaflets to constituents. There are strict quotas and rules. It's never out of their own pocket.
Ah there's a difference between communication about real local issues, such as repairs and council works and sending everyone Christmas cards
most if not all TDs do this, its not their money
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How about Barefoot with one leg on the dash….while texting…..wearing earpods
Nothing to do with the safety aspect of it, its just that sandals are eeewww?
Full three piece with shoes and gloves or nothing
Nobody knows how to dress anymore
People manage it in Australia no problem. I was apprehensive at first, but it makes no difference. Gobshites are gobshites regardless.
I'm gonna wear sandals even harder now
There are many reasons to criticise the RSA. Not letting someone take their driving test because they didn't have shoes is not one of them.
Well, yeah? I know of someone who crashed her new BMW because she was wearing flip flops, one came off and got stuck under the brake pedal and she rear ended another car
Flip flops and sandals are different things entirely
What's to say a sandal wouldn't break and do the same thing?
You can say that about any shoe too. Might as well just drive barefoot to be safe with your logic.
How very Australian
Shoes are more stable than sandals, this is common knowledge. Run 100m in sandals and you'll figure it out pal.
Run 100m in temu shoes pal and you'll figure it out.
Flip flops aren't the same as sandles though...
I remember my mother insisting I wear a blazer, shirt, tie, slacks and polished shoes to my driving test. I passed first time. 1980 😀
I am 90% sure that taxi drivers are not permitted to wear sandals whilst working. May not be enforced but it is a road safety requirement.
Only a clown would turn up to a driving test in sandals.
Would a clown not turn up wearing clown shoes?
Possibly, but at least they would have laces
If this is what TDs expend energy on it's no wonder so little progress is made on more important things. The RSA can be criticised for other things but not this - they're right to refuse people like this.
My mam made dress up for the test because “It’s never bad to make a good impression.”
Years ago now and it was just a shirt and trousers but still. With how mercurial people can be why not give yourself every chance of getting the person on your side?
He has no intention of passing at all. Learner's permit all the way
Is there not a residency requirement to get your license in Ireland?
I think there is but I'd assume this lad was kind of an inbetweener at the time he tried take the test. As in he wasn't in the new country long enough for residency there so was still technically resident here.
We’ve probably all done it (nip to the shop etc.) in summer but there is a risk the floppier versions get stuck between the ground, your foot & the accelerator hence why it’s not a good idea to wear them, even if it is highly unlikely/fortunate.
I'd have offered to drive barefoot instead of being cancelled 😂
What community are we talking about
Why?
Hippies
If escalating individuals requests for driving tests is the kind of thing that TDs and Senators do, no wonder so little else gets done
I bet it was those damn Japanese.
Sandal wearing goldfish tenders!
Country gone to the dogs
I don't know if this is sarcasm or not. You're not meant to drive in sandals though
I've worn sandals for decades and driven hundreds of thousands of kilometres just fine. Barring sandals is ridiculous control freakery.
This is why yanks die at five times the rate we do on their roads.