Brazilian authorities are investigating reports of a massacre of up to 10 people from an isolated tribe in the Amazon by illegal gold miners.
The killings, alleged to have taken place in Javari Valley, are claimed to have been carried out by men working for gold prospectors who dredge illegally in the region’s rivers.
Found the 2nd photo on this news site that contains several other images. This one mentions they were taken from airplane:
In this image made available Thursday May 29, 2008, from Survival International, showing "uncontacted" Indians of the Envira. Anthropologists say almost all of these tribes know about western civilization and have sporadic contact with prospectors, rubber tappers and loggers, but choose to turn their backs on civilization, usually because they have been attacked.
And before the great flood that reset human civilisation, it used to be a "repulsorlift", a technology, which involves generating an energy field to nullify or counteract gravitational pull.
Tomorrow night around 19:15. Don’t want to spoil anything too much, but let me tell you, God’s extra angry this time around and it will not be water this time around.
Pretty sure the first one is from Human Planet. Regardless, this village had a few flights over it around like 2010 to prove their existence when the local government was trying to deny it.
i’d like to piggy back off that pinned point and just remind everyone that Wednesday is an RTO day, up top wants us to show some office presence to stimulate some productivity in the other branches.
That being said, working remote is not remotely a possibility. I expect to see everyone here Wednesday! Carol, make sure you add that to the meeting minutes please.
Damn this one sucks. They know they were able to pry you away from the 10 other people wanting stuff so they are just gonna ride you until you stop responding.
They don't have any debt, bills, or taxes either. No permits or inspections to add an addition to your hut, definitely no zoning variances or HOA. No license bureau or hunting permits, no fishing license. No Oncologists. No colonoscopies. No insurance. No waking up in a cold sweat wondering "how can I afford this?" No banks, no loans, no mortgage.
I think that's a reasonable choice. But, it could be very short. Something like 50% of children didn't reach puberty. Getting eaten alive would've scared the shit out of me as a kid. I'd rather have not been born.
Though ideally I'd pick long and happy which many people are in the modern world.
But if they don't hear about him, the loving God who created them perfectly will damn them to eternal torture for not obeying the rules they never heard about! /s
This isn't new drone footage. These are images taken by a team years ago that was actively trying to identify their whereabouts (from plane) so they COULD defend their territory from resource companies. People read titles and do no research lol
As an anthropologist and archaeologist - leave 'em alone. They're allowed to live their lives and you can't ethically go in to ask for consent to study anything because they are incapable of even understanding the context in which you are speaking. How would you even explain something like a university professorship and research paper and publishing to them? Not because they're unintelligent or something - but because they have zero context for even beginning to frame the concept. It'd be like if aliens dropped in and explained, in a language that human speaks, faster than light travel to a reasonably intelligent average adult. They could give that person all the secrets of travel and... what do you do with that? They're not stupid, this person being given information. It just... is so outside their understanding it may as well not be in any language they understand.
There is no way to ethically contact such a tribe and ask to initiate contact. The drones are fucked.
I'm guessing this is in Amazonia and the drones are coming from a mining or logging company or misguided governmental agency. It's cruel.
You're likely to do more harm than good if you go in. How do you explain communicable disease and viruses to people who have no common language and that they need vaccines due to the outsiders? You can't. People will absolutely die if they try to go in. It's not possible to do the right thing and make contact. They have to make contact with us by choice.
This makes me think of the cargo cults. The complete lack of context for planes arriving full of goods leading to locals building airstrips in the hopes of drawing those "gods" to them to deliver all the contents. Really fascinating concept and really shows the idea that having absolutely no context really does matter and can have a big impact.
Sociologist here. I completely agree with you. These folks are socialized only within the confines of their culture. They would not adjust easily to external forces coming in to “explain” things to them. Doing so would cause them harm, and would eventually lead to the breakdown of that civilization. There is nothing wrong with how they live, because it works for them. Live and let live.
There is no way to ethically contact such a tribe and ask to initiate contact.
What if an adult tribesman choose to explore the world, reaches our civilization, learns our language and way of life, and then returns to their people to ask to initiate contact?
That becomes free will and choice. Plenty have done so.
Some uncontacted tribes in Amazonia are marginally aware of the outside world to a small degree because other tribes were contacted. They know it didn't often go well for other groups and choose not to go out.
I'd go further and say there is an almost zero chance that any "uncontacted" tribe isn't making the active choice to avoid the outside world for one reason or another.
Even deep in the Amazon, it's essentially impossible not to be aware of human civilization, from planes and helicopters to any number of other things.
How would they be able to make an informed choice? Like we know modern civilization has good things to offer - the biggest being antibiotics and mastery of a steady supply of fresh food. And thousands of complex negatives you couldn't possibly explain.
We, frankly speaking, do not have mastery of a steady supply of fresh foods and these civilizations have existed for thousands of years and have a complex understanding of their landscape which allows food and survival. If we did have such mastery, we wouldn't have 1 in 6 children living with food insecurity in the United States, we wouldn't be slowly poisoning the Gulf due to industrial ag runoff into the Mississippi and other rivers. Small-scale food systems can be incredibly efficient, actually. There's actually growing movements to return to small-scale, local food production in order to combat issues that large scale agriculture introduced into these communities. The entire field of agroecology is looking to return to small-scale subsistence farming in many regions, including Amazonia. Industrial monocropping has significant flaws.
Going in and trying to explain antibiotics and such will, in the immediate now, kill more people than you help because it will cause people to introduce novel viruses and bacteria into that population. Period.
Even asking for informed consent is problematic. Making contact without them doing it first takes away choice.
Besides, we know at least a few uncontacted tribes are aware the outside world exists and are scared because other tribes were contacted, people died, they were displaced by industrial farming, logging, mining. They know what outside contact brought their neighbors. They don't want it. That is their decision to make.
Honest question, what if these uncontacted tribes have cultural practices like human sacrifice, child brides, or ritualistic rape? Do anthropologists have to make decisions about choosing to contact these people, or leave them to conduct what is considered by the rest of the world as "human rights violations"?
Two things are going on here. So first, uncontacted tribes are so rare and quickly vanishing that we “modern” people see them as an oddity. It’s kind of a fucked up way to think about it, but they are like how we view the lives of other creatures.
But to answer your question we would just leave them alone. We don’t get into the politics of penguins. Whatever they are doing has kept them going for however long. They might have different morals. Who are we to step in and have an opinion.
Edit: politics of penguins would be the name of my emo band if I started one.
They have never been contacted by civilization so far. I dont know the context of this drone footage, but I think we still deserve some credit as humans. "Leaving them alone" isnt black and white and I'd say we're doing a pretty good job, considering our track record for greed and destruction in other areas.
This isn't new drone footage. These are images taken by a team years ago that was actively trying to identify their whereabouts (from plane) so they COULD defend their territory from resource companies. People read titles and do no research lol
They are under assault by extractors of resources like gold, poisoning water with mercury, anc illegal logging, settlers that burn land to set up.illegal farms that get legalized later, and so forth.
We are not doing a good job they are being displaced snd the amaxon despoiled at increasing rates.
It’s difficult because I want these people to be left alone, at the same time I think they’re interesting as fuck and I wanna know everything about them, though obviously I’m not entitled to anything from them.
No. Show them modern society and let them choose. They are not animals in a zoo. They are people. Would you want to be kept in the dark when a whole world exists out there that has the solutions to your problems?
Imagine watching your baby die and then knowing that there was an easy treatment that could have saved them but for some reason everyone decided to keep that information from you
The idea that “uncontacted” tribes have never had any contact without the outside world isn’t really accurate. They know we exist. They just don’t want anything to do with us. It isn’t hard to find instances of so called “uncontacted” tribes in the Amazon basin having interactions with illegal loggers and the like. Even the other so called “uncontacted” tribe the internet likes to talk about, the Sentinelese, have had some amount of contact with people trying to illegally visit their island or with researchers in previous decades and centuries. They know far more about us than we do about them, and they seem to have decided they don’t want to interact with the wider world. Given the fates of other indigenous peoples that were forced to adopt a more Westernized lifestyle I can’t say I blame them.
most of these tribes are aware of the outside world and choose to remain uncontacted because of what has happened to other tribes and their societies when contact is regularly established.
Edit:
They have legal rights to the land & government protections.
Thank you. The myth that “uncontacted” tribes don’t know we exist is really annoying and infantilizing in my opinion. It isn’t hard to find instances of so called “uncontacted” tribes in the Amazon basin having interactions with illegal loggers or other outside people in the region if you look it up. They’re isolated by choice. Given what has happened to other indigenous cultures around the world after they were forced to adopt a more Westernized lifestyle I can’t really say I blame them, especially when outsiders are still very much a threat to their ways of life.
I'm thinking it's improbable for them to contract a pandemic virus, i.e. COVID-19, since they don't interact with anyone outside their society.
But in the rare case that it does. Did any health organizations have to go there an vaccinate them, or like make sure there's a barrier between them and the outside world?
Edit - must have struck a chord, just actually really curious. Was it a word I said that didn't "read" right? I'm happy to be wrong about my preconceptions, if any. Just tell me.
One of the reasons it is unethical to contact these people is that whenever we do, they are ravaged by all sorts of flu/disease that has been spread around the world over the centuries, which they don't have immunities to.
So in terms of communicable disease, the barrier is to just not contact them.
Many of them have indirect contact with the outside world, as there’s members of their tribe that don’t stay out of civilization. I imagine it’s similar to the Amish but more isolated. Some choose to not live that lifestyle.
The members of these tribes specifically are, in fact, very isolated. There are no members who go to civilization and return, so no indirect contact. They are isolated to the point that they will attack you or your drone with arrows. They are naturally becoming extinct due to inbreeding and lack of genetic variation
this makes me wonder how they maintain a population if there’s no outsiders going into the tribe.
do they all procreate with family members or do they have a weird bracket system in place? are they all experiencing any type of mutations or deformities?
Most of these tribes are larger than a single village. The Yanomami, the most well known of the Amazonian tribes, currently have dozens of villages containing populations of up to a few hundred people. Internal migration and intra-marriage between population centers are both present amongst the Yanomami as well as other Amazonian tribes.
Many Amazonian tribes are also multi-lingual and there’s a degree of intermarriage between tribes that speak a shared language.
While some of these tribes are uncontacted, they do maintain complex political and social relationships amongst each other that members of contacted tribes are able to explain to researchers.
well, looks like i found my rabbit hole for the evening. i figured there would be some type of balance to it since you don’t exactly have to be a geneticist to reach the conclusion that it’s probably not good to have kids with your relatives. lol
it’s fascinating to know they’re at least able to piece together an idea of it through the practices of other tribes.
I have a feeling those people will live the same way (without humanity reaching to them) in 100k years as of today. Zero advance. Those types of tribal settlements are called zero advance civilizations
We need to leave tribes alone and quit trying to assimilate them into society so the government can work and tax them to death. They're free of the bullshit.
They have probably seen planes, heard human activity, and most likely have interacted with other tribes who have had contact with civilization so they are aware of the concept of other humans living very different lives than them.
However, seeing a drone likely drastically changes their culture and worldview. Not their day to day life and tradition, but the way they think about the world and nature is forever changed at the sight of such things.
Imagine dropping them photos of city life, war, etc. It would be super interesting, but probably wrong to do.
However, I am torn because by keeping them isolated you deny them and their children the right to choose how to live.
Found the 1st photo in an article from 2017:
https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2017/sep/12/brazil-investigates-reports-of-massacre-among-amazon-tribe-javari-valley
Found the 2nd photo on this news site that contains several other images. This one mentions they were taken from airplane:
https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/a-life-in-isolation/
These same two photos make the rounds every few years.
Yep. Slapping Drone on them the modernise it a bit more. Used to be helicopter lol
2030- "Tribes that have never had contact with civilization are being filmed by UFOs."
UAP now
This gave me a good chuckle thank you
You know 2030 is in 4 years right lol
And before the great flood that reset human civilisation, it used to be a "repulsorlift", a technology, which involves generating an energy field to nullify or counteract gravitational pull.
Younger Dryas impact hid a lot from us
Next stop Mt. Hayes!
Mount motherfuckin' Hayes, baby!
Don't be surprised if we find a more advanced culture with UFO hovering above us that might be coming from under the water or Antarctica.
Only OGs remember
When's the next great flood due?
Tomorrow night around 19:15. Don’t want to spoil anything too much, but let me tell you, God’s extra angry this time around and it will not be water this time around.
I’m ready to drown in Capri Suns
19.15! Can we get him to wait until after Love Island? It's getting juicy
Do what now?
They definitely predate the ‘drones’ that supposedly took the pictures
Pretty sure the first one is from Human Planet. Regardless, this village had a few flights over it around like 2010 to prove their existence when the local government was trying to deny it.
At one point, the caption was "Uncontacted tribe tries to take down airplane with blow gun."
Aren’t these photos like 20 years old at least?
They don't know what Teams or Outlook is. What a life
uh, i think your mic was muted. can you say that again?
Someone today told me they wanted to "touch base" so we "didnt lose momentum" and I just about broke down
Sounds like you need to take a “deep dive”
Let's circle back and put a pin in that.
i’d like to piggy back off that pinned point and just remind everyone that Wednesday is an RTO day, up top wants us to show some office presence to stimulate some productivity in the other branches.
That being said, working remote is not remotely a possibility. I expect to see everyone here Wednesday! Carol, make sure you add that to the meeting minutes please.
OK, so what's the takeaway here? I'm concerned with the optics.
Let's meet up before the all hands.
Perfect. Let’s align on the alignment before we align.
Plz stop I’m going to vomit
We can reconnect offline on this one, don’t wanna be a blocker for the rest of the team.
It’s time we all started thinking outside the box.
Timebox it, I want to be respectful of everyone's schedule
"Lets take this discussion offline."
**discussion is later conducted online via another zoom call**
Damn this one sucks. They know they were able to pry you away from the 10 other people wanting stuff so they are just gonna ride you until you stop responding.
Alright just gonna shareeee my screeeen
Hahaha oh man I don’t work over zoom and still felt that “shaaaare”
Yes we can see your fucking screen Lorraine.
and we can't see your screen
they have no clue what onedrive or AI is. probably happier than most people lmao
This picture is cool you see by the color of the roofs which huts were built in what order
Also stop traumatizing these people and leave them be
They’re more advanced than we are. No work, in great shape, naked and chillin in the woods with their friends
And they probably have way more leisure time
They don't have any debt, bills, or taxes either. No permits or inspections to add an addition to your hut, definitely no zoning variances or HOA. No license bureau or hunting permits, no fishing license. No Oncologists. No colonoscopies. No insurance. No waking up in a cold sweat wondering "how can I afford this?" No banks, no loans, no mortgage.
Just free and living in the moment.
Not having doctors and modern medicine is not an advantage, it means they suffer much more, But the rest of your points are good.
Or healthcare, air conditioning, cake, pineapples, etc.
You don’t miss what you’ve never had. I’m 100% they’re more content with their life than 95% of people living is modern “civilized society”.
You don't miss it. You just die of predation or go through pregnancy without an epidural.
I’d rather live a short and happy life than a long and unhappy one.
I think that's a reasonable choice. But, it could be very short. Something like 50% of children didn't reach puberty. Getting eaten alive would've scared the shit out of me as a kid. I'd rather have not been born.
Though ideally I'd pick long and happy which many people are in the modern world.
Or Trumpism/MAGA
Why are Spiderman and Deadpool talking to that Native?
My first thought "which scene is this?"
They got Spiderman!!!
He was in the Amazon with my mom when she was researching spiders right before she died
Just leave em alone ffs
wE nEeD tO bRiNg FrEeDoM tHeRe
Also, they need Big Macs and Coca-Cola.
And blue jeans.
and Jesus. Everybody needs Jesus!
They don't need Jesus.
But if they don't hear about him, the loving God who created them perfectly will damn them to eternal torture for not obeying the rules they never heard about! /s
Blasphemous!
You take that back, heathen.
No.
I needed this. Touché you sexy sasslefrass…Touché…..
You need Jesus.
Just drop illy Ray Cyrus cover art, they'll get it
Edit: Illy Ray Cyrus is free for the taking, I meant Billy
we've been trying to reach them about their extended car warranty
I heard they have oil
Time for a little American liberty and freedom...
Close, but it’s Jesus. Missionaries keep breaking the law to contact them because they insist then need to bring them Jesus.
And then the miners. Who are more often just killing them so they can pretend they didn’t know they were mining or for foresting occupied lands.
Side note:: Weyes Blood fan 🫡🙏
I sincerely believe these people are on average happier than a person from a first world country.
maybe not these people but several tribes are.
If they wanted to be left alone they shouldn't have decided to live on top of natural resources. Freedom time!
Government gotta find a way to tax them
This isn't new drone footage. These are images taken by a team years ago that was actively trying to identify their whereabouts (from plane) so they COULD defend their territory from resource companies. People read titles and do no research lol
It’s social media and a quick off the cuff comment. If we investigated every title nothing would get done.
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As an anthropologist and archaeologist - leave 'em alone. They're allowed to live their lives and you can't ethically go in to ask for consent to study anything because they are incapable of even understanding the context in which you are speaking. How would you even explain something like a university professorship and research paper and publishing to them? Not because they're unintelligent or something - but because they have zero context for even beginning to frame the concept. It'd be like if aliens dropped in and explained, in a language that human speaks, faster than light travel to a reasonably intelligent average adult. They could give that person all the secrets of travel and... what do you do with that? They're not stupid, this person being given information. It just... is so outside their understanding it may as well not be in any language they understand.
There is no way to ethically contact such a tribe and ask to initiate contact. The drones are fucked.
I'm guessing this is in Amazonia and the drones are coming from a mining or logging company or misguided governmental agency. It's cruel.
You're likely to do more harm than good if you go in. How do you explain communicable disease and viruses to people who have no common language and that they need vaccines due to the outsiders? You can't. People will absolutely die if they try to go in. It's not possible to do the right thing and make contact. They have to make contact with us by choice.
This makes me think of the cargo cults. The complete lack of context for planes arriving full of goods leading to locals building airstrips in the hopes of drawing those "gods" to them to deliver all the contents. Really fascinating concept and really shows the idea that having absolutely no context really does matter and can have a big impact.
Sociologist here. I completely agree with you. These folks are socialized only within the confines of their culture. They would not adjust easily to external forces coming in to “explain” things to them. Doing so would cause them harm, and would eventually lead to the breakdown of that civilization. There is nothing wrong with how they live, because it works for them. Live and let live.
What if an adult tribesman choose to explore the world, reaches our civilization, learns our language and way of life, and then returns to their people to ask to initiate contact?
That becomes free will and choice. Plenty have done so.
Some uncontacted tribes in Amazonia are marginally aware of the outside world to a small degree because other tribes were contacted. They know it didn't often go well for other groups and choose not to go out.
I'd go further and say there is an almost zero chance that any "uncontacted" tribe isn't making the active choice to avoid the outside world for one reason or another.
Even deep in the Amazon, it's essentially impossible not to be aware of human civilization, from planes and helicopters to any number of other things.
How would they be able to make an informed choice? Like we know modern civilization has good things to offer - the biggest being antibiotics and mastery of a steady supply of fresh food. And thousands of complex negatives you couldn't possibly explain.
We, frankly speaking, do not have mastery of a steady supply of fresh foods and these civilizations have existed for thousands of years and have a complex understanding of their landscape which allows food and survival. If we did have such mastery, we wouldn't have 1 in 6 children living with food insecurity in the United States, we wouldn't be slowly poisoning the Gulf due to industrial ag runoff into the Mississippi and other rivers. Small-scale food systems can be incredibly efficient, actually. There's actually growing movements to return to small-scale, local food production in order to combat issues that large scale agriculture introduced into these communities. The entire field of agroecology is looking to return to small-scale subsistence farming in many regions, including Amazonia. Industrial monocropping has significant flaws.
Going in and trying to explain antibiotics and such will, in the immediate now, kill more people than you help because it will cause people to introduce novel viruses and bacteria into that population. Period.
Even asking for informed consent is problematic. Making contact without them doing it first takes away choice.
Besides, we know at least a few uncontacted tribes are aware the outside world exists and are scared because other tribes were contacted, people died, they were displaced by industrial farming, logging, mining. They know what outside contact brought their neighbors. They don't want it. That is their decision to make.
Honest question, what if these uncontacted tribes have cultural practices like human sacrifice, child brides, or ritualistic rape? Do anthropologists have to make decisions about choosing to contact these people, or leave them to conduct what is considered by the rest of the world as "human rights violations"?
Two things are going on here. So first, uncontacted tribes are so rare and quickly vanishing that we “modern” people see them as an oddity. It’s kind of a fucked up way to think about it, but they are like how we view the lives of other creatures.
But to answer your question we would just leave them alone. We don’t get into the politics of penguins. Whatever they are doing has kept them going for however long. They might have different morals. Who are we to step in and have an opinion.
Edit: politics of penguins would be the name of my emo band if I started one.
Who are you mad at? Nobody is saying this.
I wanna be left alone too.
They have never been contacted by civilization so far. I dont know the context of this drone footage, but I think we still deserve some credit as humans. "Leaving them alone" isnt black and white and I'd say we're doing a pretty good job, considering our track record for greed and destruction in other areas.
This isn't new drone footage. These are images taken by a team years ago that was actively trying to identify their whereabouts (from plane) so they COULD defend their territory from resource companies. People read titles and do no research lol
They are under assault by extractors of resources like gold, poisoning water with mercury, anc illegal logging, settlers that burn land to set up.illegal farms that get legalized later, and so forth.
We are not doing a good job they are being displaced snd the amaxon despoiled at increasing rates.
Then..... does this mean they DID have contact with civilization and the title is wrong?
I think they are referencing what has happened to other uncontacted tribes. Thereby making it likely it happens to this one.
They’re going to think it’s aliens
Or God
i wouldn't be surprised if aliens are having the same conversation about Earth right now
They appear to be doing that. It's just another thing in the sky they won't understand. Traumatic experience, but I'm sure they'll recover.
It’s difficult because I want these people to be left alone, at the same time I think they’re interesting as fuck and I wanna know everything about them, though obviously I’m not entitled to anything from them.
Leave Tribe alone!!!
Exactly, they obviously don’t want to be bothered.
Exactly what I thought at first
Just checking to see if they have any oil and want some freedom dispensed.
We must spread the word of our Lord and Savior! The Bible told us to do so!!!
/s
But then how are they going to know what hot dog tastes like
No. Show them modern society and let them choose. They are not animals in a zoo. They are people. Would you want to be kept in the dark when a whole world exists out there that has the solutions to your problems?
Imagine watching your baby die and then knowing that there was an easy treatment that could have saved them but for some reason everyone decided to keep that information from you
No-one is stopping them from leaving where they are and finding the rest of the world, thrusting it upon them is a whole different thing.
Also, don’t use children in your arguments like that, makes you look less intelligent.
The idea that “uncontacted” tribes have never had any contact without the outside world isn’t really accurate. They know we exist. They just don’t want anything to do with us. It isn’t hard to find instances of so called “uncontacted” tribes in the Amazon basin having interactions with illegal loggers and the like. Even the other so called “uncontacted” tribe the internet likes to talk about, the Sentinelese, have had some amount of contact with people trying to illegally visit their island or with researchers in previous decades and centuries. They know far more about us than we do about them, and they seem to have decided they don’t want to interact with the wider world. Given the fates of other indigenous peoples that were forced to adopt a more Westernized lifestyle I can’t say I blame them.
most of these tribes are aware of the outside world and choose to remain uncontacted because of what has happened to other tribes and their societies when contact is regularly established.
Edit: They have legal rights to the land & government protections.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncontacted_peoples#:~:text=Historic%20exploitation%20and%20abuse%20at,state%20of%20Acre%20in%20Brazil
Thank you. The myth that “uncontacted” tribes don’t know we exist is really annoying and infantilizing in my opinion. It isn’t hard to find instances of so called “uncontacted” tribes in the Amazon basin having interactions with illegal loggers or other outside people in the region if you look it up. They’re isolated by choice. Given what has happened to other indigenous cultures around the world after they were forced to adopt a more Westernized lifestyle I can’t really say I blame them, especially when outsiders are still very much a threat to their ways of life.
They aren't uncontacted, they are traditional living tribes.
There are traditional living tribes elsewhere in particularly, most of PNG. Maybe 10% of the population of PNG is living pretty traditional.
I am curious.
I'm thinking it's improbable for them to contract a pandemic virus, i.e. COVID-19, since they don't interact with anyone outside their society.
But in the rare case that it does. Did any health organizations have to go there an vaccinate them, or like make sure there's a barrier between them and the outside world?
Edit - must have struck a chord, just actually really curious. Was it a word I said that didn't "read" right? I'm happy to be wrong about my preconceptions, if any. Just tell me.
One of the reasons it is unethical to contact these people is that whenever we do, they are ravaged by all sorts of flu/disease that has been spread around the world over the centuries, which they don't have immunities to.
So in terms of communicable disease, the barrier is to just not contact them.
I believe India did a few fly overs of North Sentinel during Covid to make sure nothing was going on there.
I think covid is in deer now, and who knows how many other animals out there, so they could probably get covid from contact with animals
Many of them have indirect contact with the outside world, as there’s members of their tribe that don’t stay out of civilization. I imagine it’s similar to the Amish but more isolated. Some choose to not live that lifestyle.
The members of these tribes specifically are, in fact, very isolated. There are no members who go to civilization and return, so no indirect contact. They are isolated to the point that they will attack you or your drone with arrows. They are naturally becoming extinct due to inbreeding and lack of genetic variation
They have legal protection from the government and are monitored.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncontacted_peoples#:~:text=Historic%20exploitation%20and%20abuse%20at,state%20of%20Acre%20in%20Brazil
They don't know what Reddit is. They are so lucky!
I've been here 14 years, and I still don't know what it is!
Like most of the internet its for cats and porn
So it is bigger than the internet. 🤪
I can guarantee these people are happier than 100% of redditors
How can you guarantee that, guy?
Maybe an alien somewhere is looking at us, like we are looking at them? ; thinking they are blessed with ignorance?
Except they're aware of the outside world and its inhabitants, they just choose not to be a part of it.
If you wondered what we look like to aliens, this is it. And of course, they also have a guy saying "leave them alone".
Based Glorgon
Unless the aliens are less advanced than us
The Road Not Taken, Harry Turtledove
Poor Betamaxians, never had a chance...
Leave them be.
"with civilization" how are you defining civilization here?
They are the lucky ones. Leave them tf alone 😣
I wonder what they make of Star link when it goes over ?
Actually after those tribes went to war in Africa Star Link isn't allowed to fly over uncontacted tribes
Follow me for facts I made up just like this one
That's a rock fact!
They probably think it's some bullshit from the people in the outside world. They're not oblivious as to our existence.
this makes me wonder how they maintain a population if there’s no outsiders going into the tribe.
do they all procreate with family members or do they have a weird bracket system in place? are they all experiencing any type of mutations or deformities?
so many questions.
Most of these tribes are larger than a single village. The Yanomami, the most well known of the Amazonian tribes, currently have dozens of villages containing populations of up to a few hundred people. Internal migration and intra-marriage between population centers are both present amongst the Yanomami as well as other Amazonian tribes.
Many Amazonian tribes are also multi-lingual and there’s a degree of intermarriage between tribes that speak a shared language.
While some of these tribes are uncontacted, they do maintain complex political and social relationships amongst each other that members of contacted tribes are able to explain to researchers.
well, looks like i found my rabbit hole for the evening. i figured there would be some type of balance to it since you don’t exactly have to be a geneticist to reach the conclusion that it’s probably not good to have kids with your relatives. lol
it’s fascinating to know they’re at least able to piece together an idea of it through the practices of other tribes.
They have had contact. Those are older by pics.
IF they've been filmed then they've been contacted.
Also, leave the the fuck alone.
Great. Now they’ll think they’ve made the gods angry, and they’ll sacrifice a virgin or something.
Reddit is full of virgins. Maybe we can send some?
That must be terrifying
I'm honestly surprised they weren't all captured by the US or Russian governments 60 years ago and studied in labs
Okay but why do those two look like spiderman?
Hasn't this been debunked many times ?
Great. Now angry bee gods will be part of their lore now.
I have a feeling those people will live the same way (without humanity reaching to them) in 100k years as of today. Zero advance. Those types of tribal settlements are called zero advance civilizations
let them practice cannibalism in peace broo
They’re better off if they never know.
Just leave them alone and stop intruding for crying out loud!
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Why?
Gotta get that content one way or another
We are their UAPs!
They have had contact
Why bother them? Leave them alone.
Congratulations, they are now worshipping a new flying god.
Redditors will believe anything, apparently
This sucks
A wild group of spidermen
What do you mean? They don't know who Trump is? They're gonna learn today!!
Of course they had. And suffered massacres. That's why they gonna kill u if they can
I'm kinda jealous of these people
and just like that a new drone cult religion was formed and these folks started worshipping statues of a DJI Mavic.
Is that Spiderman on the right in the first picture?
We need to leave tribes alone and quit trying to assimilate them into society so the government can work and tax them to death. They're free of the bullshit.
Oh great you just created a new god for them to fear
The spider verse is real!!
Just leave them alone please.
I'm pretty sure homie has a Spider-Man outfit on
It's the M. Knight twist on Far From Home
They really see an UFO
All they see are UFOs
Definitely should talk to them and don't worry about sitting in the hot tub with veggies that is so you have something to eat while relaxing
That's fucked up. Leave them tf alone.
And that's how stories about aliens and ancient gods resurrect
Violating the prime directive!
Aaaand that's how you start a religion and/or mythology.
Can't we just leave them alone?
Leave people the hell alone
One on the right 1st photo is Spiderman so I'm pretty sure they have encountered other people. Anyway these photos are regurgitation with new titles.
Gene Roddenbury would be very disappointed.
They were "never contacted" but they vaccinated all of them for Covid one day (real).
Where is the pixel meme when you need it.
They have probably seen planes, heard human activity, and most likely have interacted with other tribes who have had contact with civilization so they are aware of the concept of other humans living very different lives than them.
However, seeing a drone likely drastically changes their culture and worldview. Not their day to day life and tradition, but the way they think about the world and nature is forever changed at the sight of such things.
Imagine dropping them photos of city life, war, etc. It would be super interesting, but probably wrong to do.
However, I am torn because by keeping them isolated you deny them and their children the right to choose how to live.
They're gonna make those drones their deity.
Is one of them Spiderman that i Saw??????????????? IS IT JUST ME???????