I’ve been having some problems with CO leaking in my house, so I opened the furnace just to look around and saw this part not connected. Is that how it should be? I’m calling someone in the morning, it’s too late right now. Just trying to get some opinions. I have the furnace off for now.
Very fitting username
😆 🤣 😂
Had to double check the name. That got a good hearty laugh out of me
Good way to get “Dizzy” lol 😝
Yeah so that’s not right at all. It needs to have the exhaust pipe fully connected to the inducer pipe
Would this be a reason for CO leak?
Holy Fucking fuck. You're lucky you're not dead, absolutely not joking.
Not even kidding, I had it installed new about 3 years ago. But we just had a baby and his oxygen levels were going down at night when the furnace would kick on a lot. So this explains so much. Damn.
Yes, absolutely do not run that system until it is fixed. It's dangerous to everyone in the home, but babies are at an even greater risk. DO NOT run that system!
Wtf someone installed it that way professionally ??? Holy shit that is actually criminal negligence. I would be contacting the installer/company demanding an explanation. This would in fact be a loss of license in my area.
Bro wtf that’s a lawsuit id really consider getting a lawyer and see if there’s something you could do. That’s some next level deadly negligence
Already working on it. Just making sure my baby is healthy and safe first.
That's the right order.
We had a CO issue in my parents house growing up. I've had detectors ever since. They are just as important as smoke detectors.
While you can sue, you probably won't get much out of it unless there has been Dr bills or death.
There already should be at least one doctor visit happening, and depending on the severity of the existing CO poisoning, that kid very well may have permanent effects. Those won't be knowable for a while yet, not completely, so that ambiguity is gonna be worth some cash as well.
Well hopefully they get a nice settlement and the kid is OK.
Contact the company, ask for your money back for the entire install. Out of all the things you want to get right, you have to get your exhaust correct. Idk how legal works with stuff like this, but for real y'all could be dead because of this.
Agree with this. Demand compensation for the negligence
If you don't already, it's highly advisable to install CO alarms in all rooms where people will be sleeping, especially a newborn. First thing I did when I moved in to my new house was throw out all the old smoke alarms and replace with dual CO/Smoke alarms
I just ordered some more with digital display. I have some, but 3 of them are standard with no display and 2 are digital.
I hope you’ll follow up with the pediatrician. I’m not sure how low the oxygen levels got but as a father that would have me seeing red!
Oxygen levels do not drop via standard pulse oximetry. Carbon monoxide binds to the hemoglobin in red blood cells just like oxygen. Standard monitors (not specialty CO monitor) cannot differentiate between oxygen and CO. Just a fluke that you noticed even though this stuff is grossly incorrect.
Do you have any CO detectors in your home?
Well this makes me question even more. We’ve had a very mild winter and his oxygen only seemed to go down when the furnace was on. We will still be taking him in to get checked out just in case.
Always good idea to evaluate. But do your own research to verify what I said. Do you have any CO detectors in your home?
5 total, 2 with a digital display and 3 standard ones that just go off. One of the digitals is right next to the furnace and my second digital in my kitchen. The other ones are in hallways, stairs and dining room.
I have some more digital display ones coming this morning, I’m installing those in bedrooms.
Hope the little one is ok ,haven't had a baby in the house for about 30 yrs now. How did you know there oxygen was low.
The owlet sock, fairly new device I would say. It definitely wasn’t around when my older kids were babies.
Interesting ,thanks.
I'd call that company and make them fix it for free.
I lost all my trust in them. I’m having a couple companies come out today just to cover all my bases.
make sure that original company gets invoiced for all these new visits.
I would sue the absolute fuck out of that HVAC company. This is insane negligence if they installed it this way.
You have to show damages to win monetary compensation.
Paramedic here. How do you know that your baby’s oxygen levels were low at night? Most SpO2 monitors do not differentiate between O2 and CO attached to hemoglobin. They look the same to the sensor. A low O2 level detected by a typical SpO2 monitor is not indicative of CO poisoning. I’m not saying that you don’t have a CO problem with that furnace, but an inexpensive SpO2 monitor is not going to give you any information to help diagnose CO.
I was assuming, but we took him in today and so far he looks good and healthy. He wears an Owlet at night, oxygen was always perfect until we turned on the furnace. Then we started getting notifications that his 02 stats were dropping and that he was in the 5-95 percentile for his oxygen.
This needs to be reported to a regulatory agency. Like the city’s Chief Building Inspector or something. This work is at least criminal negligence. I’m glad your baby is still alive.
This was my response when I saw it along with why do you not have a co2 detector or 5.
100%
Yeah, this can lead to death..
I’m surprised you’re not dead via Reddit with CO already, lol.
Also, I had a CO problem myself last year. We were not feeling well and it was dancing the line of normal in addition to the sickness we were dealing with already (sinus).
The HVAC company we called took it extremely seriously. Many testing devices and basically a forensic style interview that identified an issue with the furnace. It was a new build in 2019. This should be identifiable by a Day 2 guy but you likely need a pro to be sure. This is quite bad in your case.
When our pro walked in to look around, he placed around 4-6 sensors around the house to get a good view of how it all flowed. It was impressive and he consulted us quite a bit after for next actions. We had some air flow issues that we didn’t know about. Took his advice and the power bill dropped and we felt better in our own home. Worth it.
Right, seen cases where people should be dead, but aren't because they effectively have an entire open front door's worth of draft cycling air and energy out of their home constantly
Definitely.
Absolutely.
Have any of your pets died recently?
No dead pets, thankfully.
Incorrect it’s supposed to have an option to vent to mother in laws room. From there when mother in law isn’t visiting you close the damper directing the co back through the chimney. Mind you her door should be shut and have proper sealing added to walls, outlets, windows and doors…..
If you wanna continue living it should be... yes
Yes! The tape means the installer knew that
Bro everytime I open this fucking subreddit. Every time. You just can’t make this shit up. No wonder why the average Joe fucking hates us techs 😭😭
I mean we “hate you” because many of you take advantage of us and sell us things/services we don’t need. You’re here when we are in an emergency often, like no AC in summer. And instead of just replacing the capacitor you try to tell us we need a new system. Or your prices are insanely inflated but if we don’t go with you we beed to pay you $200 for the visit, so if we call someone who might be cheaper, the total cost is higher after that fee.
I don’t know who you’re referring to but it’s not me. It sounds like you’ve had some bad experiences and I’m sorry to hear that but maybe don’t let your bias dictate your outlook on every tech you meet.
Oh sorry man. Wasn’t implying it was you. Just why I think technicians are “hated” like you said. Its almost entirely big companies in big cities. Independent people and small businesses have been way better
Yeah I feel that. There’s two sides to that coin as well. As you said, big city/big company hvac and then the smaller “dudes in a truck” that are usually the main culprits of hack jobs like this post. Unfortunately I feel HVAC is one of those fields where you keep trying people until you find one that’s good. Me personally all I care about is being a good tech. Quality craftsmanship and ethical work.
I def dont talk to the big companies. They have to pay all the extra office staff.
Most local or smaller companies do free consultations or roll it into the actual bill.
WTF!!! Leave the furnace off - for sure!
Yes that is the source of CO in your home. You are lucky you found this in time. Not so lucky for the installer and any technician who worked on this appliance. You should report them - it's criminal what they did.
Gotta wonder how many homes they did this to.
What the fuck!? Post the data tag in the lower left of photo. I want to know how long it’s been there.
Had it installed new about 3 years ago.
And the service techs that serviced you furnace for the last 3 years missed it??
Well that's a pink slip. Jesus christ, thats not even an accident thats intentional
Wifi exhaust is not good
Should this be connected?
Only you if like living.
I very much like living, and my kids living too. Already looking into what can be done.
This is the most incompetent thing I’ve ever seen.
Hire a different company have them document and fix the issue. Call a lawyer and follow his advice on who to contact and what steps to take next. I would be fucking livid and not let this shit drop until someone gets punished.
yeah thats wrong.
Yup
I would also check the water heater just to be safe.
Oof, there's a missing adaptor piece that needs, needs, NEEDS to be there. Yes much of the flue gas is probably going up that flue, but there's definitely going to be some spillage for sure. Get a company out there ASAP, its good you've shut it down.
Yes, it should absolutely be connected. Don’t run that unit until you can get a professional out there.
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Something like this might be all you need.
Is this something I can fix? Or should I hire someone to do it?
Depends on your me mechanical aptitude. YouTube how to install flue vent to furnace, or something like that for some specifics.
Just measure each pipe ID, and distance between them. Go to home depot and see what they've got. You may need to replace a piece or two of vent to make it all fit. They're typically just connected with some sheet metal screws, 1/4" or 5/16", sometimes Phillips.
Post a picture of the whole flue vent.
I've seen a few flue pipes left disconnected like this after customers have had roof work done. Some very close to being attached like this one and some in peices in the attic. It's always baffling to see.
Absolutely
Blue tooth connection
Yes
You want to have CO2 detector in places near gas-burning equipment, too.
Correct to be concerned this is not ok. It should be connected yes
The CO is leaking because of this
Do you not have a carbon monoxide alarm? I haven't seen every comment, but something you should probably invest in or insect the one you currently have as it's probably not working
I Have 5. That’s how I knew I had a leak somewhere. 2 with a digital display and 3 without.
I kept thinking it was my stove, so I stopped using it just in case, but detectors still showed elevated CO. That’s when I started checking the furnace.
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Yep!
As a Firefighter/Paramedic if you have any gas fed appliances in your home invest in CO detectors and place them on every level of your home, especially outside sleeping areas and near fuel-burning appliances, at about eye level (5 feet high) on a wall or on the ceiling, but keep them at least 15 feet away from appliances to avoid false alarms and away from humidity/drafts
I'd sue whoever installed that could have killed your family.
That f crazy.Sue the shit out of them.
Yes and you should sue whoever put that in.
It came loose. Call your HVAC company.
Also why is there blue thread tape on the union
What is that? I’m not very literate when it comes to this.
Connect it if you want to not die