As the title states what is the purpose of this drain line with the loop that coming out of the pvc at the black coupling. Had my furnace inspected today while I was at work. They never mentioned having to fix anything but this is definitely new as of today. Thanks for any insight!

Given the position of this vent on the top and in the centre of the furnace, this looks like combustion air from outdoors.
The drain line and trap is to catch any potential condensation that may appear in the vent pipe, directing that condensation to a drain, versus allowing that condensation to drip directly on the gas valve or other parts inside the furnace cabinet,
That is interesting, what is that part called? I just replaced my burners last year due to rust from condensation likely coming from the intake pipe.
I believe it is called a "fernco with a drain" there might be a more specific name but it is a fernco with a drain built in.
I’m sure that’s spot on in the manufactures manual….
Rheem calls the a rubber coupling with condensate drain and Goodman calls them a drain trap kit. These go on all of my installs with an intake above the burner or gas control valve. Seen too many icp products with failed gas valves fur to water now.
Unsure what the manufacturer will call that part, intake condensate trap, intake drain adaptor, etc
Do you have natural gas or propane (LP)? LP is far more corrosive to the burners than the former.
Correct LP
Yeah I would bet my last dollar that’s what corroded the burners causing the flame not to spread to the end of the burner and not rectifying flame. It will happen again over time on any furnace on LP should you ever run into this issue again I would ask for stainless steel burners to be swapped out. (I know you didn’t ask just trying to help lol)
We call it a rain gutter here, it's essentially just for condensation. It's on the fresh air intake because as the cool or warm air from outside is pulled into the furnace, which will be either warmer or colder than the outdoor air, condensation forms. I'll never understand why, but so many manufacturers insist on having that intake positioned directly above the gas valve. So if you have condensation directly above the gas valve, that drips down onto it and eventually corrodes your gas valve. This just directs that condensation away into the drain. It's odd that they installed it without consulting you first. We install them on every new system, but if I'm at an old system without one, I'm going to charge for the part and installation, so I'm getting approval first. The only other thing I could think was that maybe they were supposed to install one previously and did not, so they corrected that.
Yes. The condensation from air intake is above the gas valve on several of the furnaces the company i work for installs. If the customer has 10 year warranty, we install these to prevent condensation dripping on gas valve
How much does it cost? Seems sorta shitty to only do it when they have a warranty.
Pretty cheap, and idk man, I dont make the rules
Yeah, sorry- didn’t mean to accuse you of being the one making the rule, just a general observation. I’ve worked for Big C Corps my whole life pretty much and eventually there’s a procedure/norm that makes me shake my head.
All good, I just do repairs. So if we see a recent install without an intake drain above, we are supposed to attach one to protect gas valve. I think theyre actually supposed to install one on all the installs of that furnace, warranty or not. But I was just told to add it if the customer has a warranty. Seems weird to me also.
To add, I dont think its mentioned in the install manual, and its not included with the furnace from the factory.
I mean, it's a company, they need to make money. We do it on every single one of our installs, but if I go to a system that wasn't installed by us, it's not our fault it wasn't installed. The company I work for exists to make money. They absolutely want to take care of our customers and put customers first, but there is still a bottom line. I also want to help my customers, it's my favorite part of the job is helping people. I also still need to pay my bills. So the fact is, we just can't do free work. If it was our install and one wasn't put on, absolutely I'm going to make things right at no cost to the customer. However outside of that, I'll explain what it is and why they should have one, and they can decide if it's worth the cost or not.
Right… I wasn’t suggesting it be done for free. Rather just questioning the warranty vs. non-warranty installation.
I think this is indeed the case!
Those furnaces have a problem with moisture from the intake rusting the burner compartment. Likely in the manual to do something like this to prevent that
I can’t remember the brand but I saw a furnace that had a coupling similar to that. There was like a little cone inside that directed condensate from the walls of the pipe into the tube. I think it was inside the casing and was a factory part.
Oh, I know this one painfully well.
Those s8-9 style furnaces have the intake directly in line with the inducer motor and the control board inside. In more humid climates, you can end up with condensed water dripping in and wrecking those parts. We actually had a number of years where we were replacing those parts constantly because of that. Nowadays trane and by extension American standard have a special plastic take off for the intake with the tube connection, but before that, we had these rubber furnco couplings.
Basically, that coupling is saving you a ton of money and issues due to a design flaw.
Check the manual see what it says.
It is there to prevent nuisance condensation during the summertime. The cold pipe can cause the hot humid summer air to condense in the intake pipe and damage the components in the furnace. I'm not sure if that particular fitting can catch the condensation (I'd like to see the innards). But that is why it is there. Otherwise there can be a tee in the horizontal or Trane now makes the gray fitting with a catch and drain built in.
I always thought that these were for accidental rain infiltration, or when the difference of cold air meets warm air inside the house causing condensation
If installed correctly (all brands I have installed) the intake is supposed to have a 90 degree fitting facing down on the intake. When it is winter the air is usually dry but when the pipes are warm(er) during the winter water will not condense on them. I've had to replace gas valves, circuit boards and burners due to cold basements and humid midwest air.
Is it possible that pipe terminates vertically outdoors and is receiving precipitation?
Negative it comes out of the side of the house
The intake air pipe might be exposed to rain intake.
I purchased a house where the roof had been replaced. The bazooka coaxial vent in the roof has a cone that separates the exhaust and intake air shielding the intake from the rain. The roofers lost that. When I replaced the furnace, I obtained a new vent to have a weather cone ready when it would be later fitted. Meanwhile I made up a trap with a hose to capture the rain water. Furnace installation manuals can briefly discuss this issue if the manuals are actually read.
Whaooo call your fire department
Why
Condensate drain… should be connected to a neutralizer before draining out
It's a 'condensation' drain [trap] on the incoming [combustion air] vent pipe. So just normal moisture/water. Not 'condensate' from the combustion process (where a neutralizer can be warranted).
It’s a special built coupler that will catch any moisture running down the interior wall of the pipe and drains it outside of the pipe.
Basically none as it’s on the vertical.
Edit:
Ok I’ve been corrected. The ones I’ve seen on the vertical the ring is installed right at the connection of the air intake and drain into the collector box. Coleman etc. on the trains we just use a regular tee on the horizontal. But yeah it prevents condensation dripping onto the gas valve.
I’ve been told on these Tranes is basically only if you HAVE to use the top connection otherwise always go in the side. Prevent burners from rusting out.
Does seem a bit silly. How is that gonna catch the condensate?
I've seen catches like that before. There's a ring on the inside that is like an inner gutter that drains into the hose. Its really only for water running down the interior of the pipe to my knowledge.
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It looks like a Fernco
Some systems come with it and recommend it, what it does? No fuckin clue because to me its not catching shit
That's what it is.
Drain hoses….wtf are they too lazy to use pvc for the AC side
I feel like the hoses is more work
Lazy that’s the only answer
That's your fresh-air intake. There's not even condensation at that point.
I have no idea.
Temperature change causes condensation during warm months