The senators special is getting rid of young goalies/prospects who are underperforming compared to what we need, then having then become what we need after they're gone.
Skinner's got like 5 years on the age where we usually offload our goalies.
I'm really wondering how well Jarry will do with the Oilers defense in front of him. It's not just that they allow a lot of high danger chances, it's that they're completely unforced errors.
Chicago fan here. Bowman single handily shortened our dynasty by making moves like this.
He is incapable of pro-scouting, and constantly overpays for washed veterans. Or trades for declining assets with an arrogant notion that somehow "his" team can turn careers around.
Bowman is a horrible GM. We couldn’t wait for him to get canned. He’s the one who made the stupid panarin trade and the Jones trade, not to mention his horrific contracts
That's the same reason they hired Ken Holland. And both of these guys inherited contending teams. When you start with Nick Lidstrom or Keith-Seabrooks, it's a lot easier.
Regardless of what one thinks of Kulak, the fact that Edmonton was convinced to give up a single defenseman at all is wild. They don't have an NHL-capable six man unit as it is.
Stu was born and raised in Edmonton, so it hurts more than your average trade for many Edmontonians. Shame. Good luck to him and his family in Pittsburgh.
Honestly, he can do anything except negotiate with superstars. His scouting and trades in Toronto were pretty good. He bet the wrong way and got screwed by the cap freeze, but he consistently did a pretty good job filling that roster out with bargain bin guys who ended up playing above their contracts.
The only thing to keep in mind with his star negotiations is that it continued even after Dubas was gone.
Willy's new contract was way higher than people thought it should be when it was signed. Seems ok now, mainly because the cap has gone up...something Dubas didn't have.
And the main issue with Matthew's contract was term...people wanted it to be longer than the 5 years he signed for. On his new contract, he signed for even less term (4 years).
It's definitely possible that Shanny was more involved with these contracts than people think....hes the common link.
On his new contract, he signed for even less term (4 years).
Looks like it might bite him in the ass because the man has very noticeably slowed down over the past two seasons. Looks like his injury is really hampering his play right now. Doesn't look remotely like the same dominant player.
They basically made their defence worse (somehow they found a way) and got marginally better goaltending with no retention. Bowman should be shot into the sun for that.
You have to look at this trade together with the other trade with Nashville. They're probably banking on that kid from Nashville being an upgrade over Kulak, which looks like a fair assumption.
Feel like Dubas is trying to limit salary retentions right now, especially as the core continues to age out. Skinner and Kulak UFA after this season while Jarry is on the books until 2028. Pens are finally getting out of the Jack Johnson buyout after this year.
There were a lot of rumours that one of the lynch pins in this originally was that the Pens didn’t want to retain. That’s probably then taking Kulak back, which also helps them a bit
It's also a smart pick because Crosby and Malkin might be done by then, which means Pens will be in full on rebuild mode AND Edmonton might not have McDavid and be trash, making it a higher pick.
The only person on the Pens who's actively signed for 2028-29 is Graves, with Brunicke and Kindel being RFAs that year (McGroarty, Koivunen, and Silvos are on-roster and upcoming RFAs too, with Tomasino buried at the moment).
Crosby might try to play a little longer past where his contract expires after next season, but that's on him. Letang is on the books until 2027-28 and Malkin's contract expires after this season. I can see extensions passed around so all 3 retire together, but we'll see what happens.
So technically it could work out even better if the goaltending situation doesn't work itself out with Jarry and the Pens get a better pick due to the Oilers missing the playoffs in 2029, cool.
As a Blackhawks fan, welcome to Stan Bowman as a GM. Panarin for Saad? Seems like a great idea! Multiple firsts and a record contract for Seth Jones in a desperate move to turn things around? Absolutely!
Im thinking at least a part of this is just that Skinner’s time in Edmonton is done and management cannot just keep running him back if they want to save face. So they do what on paper is lateral, maybe an upgrade on form in favour of Jarry as he has a SV% starting in 9 on the season, and hope that Jarry can atleast change the narrative.
SV% is very much influenced by your defence. Skinner has been good this year despite the narrative. His GSAX stats look good for a guy making 2.5 million. Jarry will not maintain his current stats once he experiences Oilers hockey. It’s all downhill from here
Definitely. I think Skinner and Jarry are about equal except Skinner is younger, less expensive, and signed for fewer years. They also got a 2nd rounder out of it and they're also not retaining any money on Jarry. Kulak is a cap dump but whatever, he's got an expiring contract so maybe he plays well and they can flip him at the deadline. Seems like a pretty clear win by Dubas.
The best thing about Stuart Skinner is when he makes a good save Seymour Skinner shows up on the jumbotron giving a thumbs up and Super Nintendo Chalmers' voice goes "Skinnnnnnerrrrr!"
Please don’t tell Canucks fans from 2024 literally anything else that has happened since… give them a few more months of thinking there’s any hope at all.
I mean you’re not wrong. The problem is what else is out there? An equally mediocre Buffalo goalie, the ghost of Jordan Binnington, like there were no better options. And this isn’t an Edmonton excuse they 100% got themselves in to this mess
I wasn't in the camp of "get rid of Jarry at any cost", but we waived him not all that long ago and managed to get some value out of him after he's looked a bit better this season. Getting a 2nd back in this deal is pretty solid
With some screwed dealing by Dubas this deal could easily be a second, third (retain and flip Skinner) and fourth (flip Kulak), for Jarry by the deadline. It’s an absolute coup as far as I can tell.
Skinner and Kulak are UFAs at the end of the season, so retention isn't a problem when the wheels fall off for the Pens this year and they start selling. So that'll help get that draft value.
yeah honestly I thought the Oilers would do ok if it was a Skinner/Jarry combo. But this doesn't make sense. Pickard has been the liability more than Skinner
He’s a 24 year old former 1st round pick that hasn’t been able to stick in the NHL for more than a handful of games at a time, so I’ll let you form your own opinion based on that.
Sam Poulin has barely played at the NHL level and hasn’t really shown any flashes either as a former first round pick. Maybe Edmonton thinks he could use a fresh start but not really of any value right now in my opinion
As far as character goes, Stu’s one of my favourites. My other favourite is Sid. I hope Sid’s leadership and mentorship can elevate Stu’s game and consistency.
Interestingly enough, I’ve felt my interest in the Penguins would lessen once Sid and Malkin are gone. But I’ll always root for Stu, so I’ll still check in on the Penguins for him. I want the Oilers to regret this trade.
I actually like Edmonton and have enjoyed cheering them on. But I think this move combined with the addition of asshat Bouwman as GM makes me care significantly less for the Oilers. At the same time, McDavid is awesome and I want to see him win a cup. But I don’t mind if he does it elsewhere
Considering no one wanted jarry from waivers 5 months ago this is a wild steal for the penguins. Skinner might not be the best goalie but hes got 2 straight final appearances and could very easily turn his game around
Pittsburgh won this trade. Lateral move by Edmonton that did absolutely nothing to address their problems with defence. Maybe it's a shake up they need....but that could have been done dozens of times this season by having a coach that would bench players who play worse than peewee at times.
At least Stu and his family won't have to deal with death threats from a handful of pos fans here. He was far better than most give him credit for. Played well above his contract ever season
Edit: hoping Jarry is an addition that shakes up the team to play professional hockey for 60 minutes each game.....
Yeah that's what I don't understand. If the tandem was Jarry/Skinner that's actually pretty decent. But keeping Pickard is a choice and I say that as a Kings fan
Easy Penguins win and it’s not even close, Skinner and Kulak are in the final year of their deals. Poulin is a nothing burger, so Pittsburgh made a lateral move in net at worst, and picked up a 2nd round pick in the process.
This is a fireable offense. He was WAIVED last year. And no salary retention this year???! You literally could’ve done this for free and now you give up a haul. And you send away Skinner instead of Pickard ? An amazing trade for the Penguins
The last several years have been a fireable offense. Make a lateral move in net while losing assets where you most need them (the D) is just another example of why.
Sigh. This is such a dumb trade. Sure can Jarri be better than skinner? Absolutely. But I was only okay with getting him if our tandem was Jarri skinner. We still have a gaping hole in the backup position. Hopefully Ingram can figure it out. Cause pickard is not him.
How the hell did they not retain at all? Obviously the pick is a bit far out, but we do need it right now anyway with the number of picks we have the next 2 years.
This is hilarious. After months of saying “Edmonton will only make a goalie trade if it makes them better” they go and do the most lateral trade possible. Good luck winning the cup with Jarry and Picard
Jarry is what he is.I don’t see him getting better but I could see Skinner turning it around.Skinner has been a starter for like 3 seasons.That’s too early to give up on him.I bet he plays better out of the Edmonton spotlight!
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I think the funniest possible outcome here would be that Skinner turns into a world-class goalie for the Pens
Maybe not world class, but every underperforming goalie we trade has gotten better
The Senators special
The senators special is getting rid of young goalies/prospects who are underperforming compared to what we need, then having then become what we need after they're gone.
Skinner's got like 5 years on the age where we usually offload our goalies.
I mean... we could have sat on Gus. We didnt need to acquire a 34yo goalie our first steps out of a rebuild at all.
Basically tells you your defensive game is balls and it’s not the goalies. Which everyone has said for years now in Edmonton.
I'm really wondering how well Jarry will do with the Oilers defense in front of him. It's not just that they allow a lot of high danger chances, it's that they're completely unforced errors.
Something he’s used to from the Pens.
The oilers poaching staff was like "all right, who plays defense like us and their goalie actually bails them out?". And landed on Pittsburgh
Jarry has some very recent experience with that
1st goal last night was a bad giveaway as well.
This would be the best possible outcome
It’s gonna happen
Edmonton finally made a goalie trade.
I don’t believe it.
For a guy that was on waivers not long ago!
That makes this so damn funny
Giving away your starting goalie on a good deal for an injury riddled goalie who was on waivers last year and makes 6m is insane.
Why didn't we just trade for Gibson?
Jarry makes 6m? Why not go for something like Saros then, even if he has underperformed.
Exactly.
I also got clowned for saying we should've bought low on Swayman in the summer by throwing 2 1sts at Boston in the summer.
Now that's a guy I would be willing to give up Skinner for
And they still managed to fuck it up
Not exactly swinging for the fences with this trade. Wtf oilers I thought Bowman was supposed to be a smart GM (despite being a not-so-great dude)
I think Bowman is a better dude than he is a GM. And that's with him being a pretty shitty dude.
This rings way too true
Chicago fan here. Bowman single handily shortened our dynasty by making moves like this.
He is incapable of pro-scouting, and constantly overpays for washed veterans. Or trades for declining assets with an arrogant notion that somehow "his" team can turn careers around.
Stan Bowman ruined Dave Tallons team
Hawks mainly won the cups off trades and dragting under Tallon.
Bowman is a horrible GM. We couldn’t wait for him to get canned. He’s the one who made the stupid panarin trade and the Jones trade, not to mention his horrific contracts
Genuinely surprised he hasn’t paid us a 4th for Saad yet.
Why did you ever think that? Bowman has been trash.
It was the justification for taking on a GM with that much baggage. “He brought Chicago a dynasty” even if that’s not 100% true
That's the same reason they hired Ken Holland. And both of these guys inherited contending teams. When you start with Nick Lidstrom or Keith-Seabrooks, it's a lot easier.
More like Scotty calling in favours to keep his boy in the big leagues.
Oilers management
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“Now Connor will stay”
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I'm pretty neutral to Dubas as a GM but he absolutely fleeced Edmonton on this one.
Regardless of what one thinks of Kulak, the fact that Edmonton was convinced to give up a single defenseman at all is wild. They don't have an NHL-capable six man unit as it is.
Quite so. And as it happens I like Brett Kulak.
Me to Edmonton
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“See Connor, we got a goalie! Please go against your better judgment and stay!”
McDavid really took a discount and the Oil went ''Jarry. That's our guy.''
McDavid was one of the ones to say "Pickard needs to stay" this shit is on him too
Stu was born and raised in Edmonton, so it hurts more than your average trade for many Edmontonians. Shame. Good luck to him and his family in Pittsburgh.
Jarry owns/lives on a farm outside of Edmonton.
He's going to a nice farm upstate 🙏🙏🙏
Just like my dog did, I’m told he is still happy and thriving 26 years later
Damn Edmonton really saw the fans morale this season and decided to improve it by taking a baseball bat and beating them over the head with it.
Being a fan of this team is like being an abusive relationship
Relatable
I think most Canadian teams can relate 😓
Let's be real, other fans have had it worse, we've had some pretty good success here.
Management disaster class. Another Nico Harrison-style failing upwards moron.
Bro is really going to scare away the best chance y’all have had at a cup since Gretzky, wow. I thought our management sucked but this is impressive
Edmonton’s best chance at a cup since Gretzky was the one they won in 1990.
Dubas needs to be kicked out of the league for taking advantage of the worst GM in sports. This is like taking candy from a particularly stupid baby.
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I was looking for this. Thank you.
This was also taking the baby’s stroller and giving him an older one that holds with duct tape
And has an active recall.
He sucks at contract negotiations, but the dude knows his way around trades. This is an easy win for the Pens (sorry).
Oh yeah. Dubas absolutely fleeced Bowman here. This is criminal.
Has Bowman actually won any trades, with you guys or with Chicago? I’m genuinely puzzled how he’s a GM other than what his last name is.
Can confirm Bowman lost every trade in Chicago. I can’t remember a single time we made a trade and felt good about it after.
Honestly, he can do anything except negotiate with superstars. His scouting and trades in Toronto were pretty good. He bet the wrong way and got screwed by the cap freeze, but he consistently did a pretty good job filling that roster out with bargain bin guys who ended up playing above their contracts.
The only thing to keep in mind with his star negotiations is that it continued even after Dubas was gone.
Willy's new contract was way higher than people thought it should be when it was signed. Seems ok now, mainly because the cap has gone up...something Dubas didn't have.
And the main issue with Matthew's contract was term...people wanted it to be longer than the 5 years he signed for. On his new contract, he signed for even less term (4 years).
It's definitely possible that Shanny was more involved with these contracts than people think....hes the common link.
Looks like it might bite him in the ass because the man has very noticeably slowed down over the past two seasons. Looks like his injury is really hampering his play right now. Doesn't look remotely like the same dominant player.
Stupid babies require the most attention
Oilers and terrible management. Name me a better combination
Oilers and having horrible people in their organization?
He took advantage of Nico?
There are multiple backup goalies around the league that are better than Jarry. Dubas didn't take candy from a baby, he took its parents.
Been a few threads on this as more info came out piece by piece but this is the full trade.
From Lebrun: No salary retained in the Penguins-Oilers trade.
Kulak had to go for the salary to work. I just don't think Jarry is ~3M better than Skinner. Taking on the full salary is wild work
They basically made their defence worse (somehow they found a way) and got marginally better goaltending with no retention. Bowman should be shot into the sun for that.
To be fair, Kukak has been ass this season. But trading away two local boys is sure an interesting PR move.
You have to look at this trade together with the other trade with Nashville. They're probably banking on that kid from Nashville being an upgrade over Kulak, which looks like a fair assumption.
Feel like Dubas is trying to limit salary retentions right now, especially as the core continues to age out. Skinner and Kulak UFA after this season while Jarry is on the books until 2028. Pens are finally getting out of the Jack Johnson buyout after this year.
There were a lot of rumours that one of the lynch pins in this originally was that the Pens didn’t want to retain. That’s probably then taking Kulak back, which also helps them a bit
Call me crazy but...Pens fleece?
Not crazy at all
Career numbers for Jarry and Skinner are pretty comparable, Jarry was in decline for three straight years and has had injury trouble
Edmonton takes on more money for arguably a lateral move in net, with potentially more risk
And gives up more assets to do so
Like you make this trade in NHL25 Franchise Mode when you’re bored and about to stop playing this save
Literally had exactly the same thought about Franchise Mode.
"Lol watch this"
It’s also a 2029 second round pick which is exactly what I do in Franchise Mode when the AI won’t accept my garbage trade
It's also a smart pick because Crosby and Malkin might be done by then, which means Pens will be in full on rebuild mode AND Edmonton might not have McDavid and be trash, making it a higher pick.
this isn't true at all. crosby and malkin will be playing forever and will never retire
Crosby will retire in 2087
The only person on the Pens who's actively signed for 2028-29 is Graves, with Brunicke and Kindel being RFAs that year (McGroarty, Koivunen, and Silvos are on-roster and upcoming RFAs too, with Tomasino buried at the moment).
Crosby might try to play a little longer past where his contract expires after next season, but that's on him. Letang is on the books until 2027-28 and Malkin's contract expires after this season. I can see extensions passed around so all 3 retire together, but we'll see what happens.
Freed up 5+ mil for them too. Their cap space for next offseason is now at 53M
So technically it could work out even better if the goaltending situation doesn't work itself out with Jarry and the Pens get a better pick due to the Oilers missing the playoffs in 2029, cool.
Oilers seem like they're bored and about to stop playing lol
As a Blackhawks fan, welcome to Stan Bowman as a GM. Panarin for Saad? Seems like a great idea! Multiple firsts and a record contract for Seth Jones in a desperate move to turn things around? Absolutely!
Im thinking at least a part of this is just that Skinner’s time in Edmonton is done and management cannot just keep running him back if they want to save face. So they do what on paper is lateral, maybe an upgrade on form in favour of Jarry as he has a SV% starting in 9 on the season, and hope that Jarry can atleast change the narrative.
SV% is very much influenced by your defence. Skinner has been good this year despite the narrative. His GSAX stats look good for a guy making 2.5 million. Jarry will not maintain his current stats once he experiences Oilers hockey. It’s all downhill from here
That's an arguable position.
Also sending off a rock solid dman in the playoffs, Kulak, and a pick? Insanity.
McDavid took less money for Tristan Jarry
😂 nailed it. And fans wonder why more players don’t do their GM favours like this.
Garbage for Edmonton.
Jarry-Skinner makes some semblance of sense as a 1A/1B situation.
Jarry-Picks is worse, but we spend more money.
Every single player involved in this deal is mid. But I agree penguins got better value.
14-year-old kid that will be drafted in 2029: "what he say fuck me for"
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kid named mid
Mid Mikkelson coming out of Finland will be a solid second pairing defender by 2032.
14 year old that's currently sitting in math class
That kid is going 6-7 6-7 6-7 right now, terrorizing his math teacher
That kid was born in 2011. That kid could very well be younger than the Vancouver riots
Just... Why?... What did we do to you? Fucking sitting here minding our business catching strays
When everyone involved is mid, the team getting the 2nd is the clear winner. Even if it’s deferred to 2029.
There’s also a non-zero chance the Oilers window has slammed shut by 2029 and the 2nd is closer to a 1st
big time
I don’t think I’d trade a 2nd for Jarry straight up. And that’s not even considering Skinner may actually be the better keeper of the two
Fleece. Unless we win the cup. Anything else it's a fleece.
Definitely. I think Skinner and Jarry are about equal except Skinner is younger, less expensive, and signed for fewer years. They also got a 2nd rounder out of it and they're also not retaining any money on Jarry. Kulak is a cap dump but whatever, he's got an expiring contract so maybe he plays well and they can flip him at the deadline. Seems like a pretty clear win by Dubas.
Lmao bowman…what are you doing?
It’s a Bowman tradition to help the Penguins win a Cup
Management disaster class. Another Nico Harrison-style failing upwards moron.
the pic really captures both of their disappointment
They really went and looked for the pictures of them looking disappointed
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Stan Bowman masterclass. When you can get a gm of his pedigree, a little tomfoolery is the price you pay.
Sorry to Stuart Skinner for all the things I have said about him, I guess
I wouldn’t apologize yet, think of all the new things you’ll get to say about him!
The best thing about Stuart Skinner is when he makes a good save Seymour Skinner shows up on the jumbotron giving a thumbs up and Super Nintendo Chalmers' voice goes "Skinnnnnnerrrrr!"
Pens better have that.
Imagine telling Canucks and Oilers fans back in 2024 that theres a tandem of Skinner and Silovs down the road.
Please don’t tell Canucks fans from 2024 literally anything else that has happened since… give them a few more months of thinking there’s any hope at all.
OK, so you need to get over the hump in the playoffs or risk losing your franchise cornerstone, and you go with...Tristan Jarry?
Good luck with that.
I mean you’re not wrong. The problem is what else is out there? An equally mediocre Buffalo goalie, the ghost of Jordan Binnington, like there were no better options. And this isn’t an Edmonton excuse they 100% got themselves in to this mess
Mcdavid is gonna kill somebody
Probably himself after this trade.
Are pens fans happy with this? I think it's a horrible trade for us
I wasn't in the camp of "get rid of Jarry at any cost", but we waived him not all that long ago and managed to get some value out of him after he's looked a bit better this season. Getting a 2nd back in this deal is pretty solid
a 2029 2nd is wild.
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With some screwed dealing by Dubas this deal could easily be a second, third (retain and flip Skinner) and fourth (flip Kulak), for Jarry by the deadline. It’s an absolute coup as far as I can tell.
Skinner and Kulak are UFAs at the end of the season, so retention isn't a problem when the wheels fall off for the Pens this year and they start selling. So that'll help get that draft value.
Some team in a WC spot will get a key injury and pony up picks for a Skinner or Kulak at the deadline.
It's a lateral goalie move where Pittsburgh gets not one but two other assets. Pens win this handily.
i mean i thought for sure we’d get Pickard. you guys kinda end up in the same position
yeah honestly I thought the Oilers would do ok if it was a Skinner/Jarry combo. But this doesn't make sense. Pickard has been the liability more than Skinner
Opens the door for Murashov to be called up full time next year so I’m happy.
We free up needed cap space to retool for one more run with Sid. Absolute W
does Sam Poulin have good potential maybe? It doesn't really make sense otherwise but I don't know anything about that guy
He's a non-factor at this point. First-round pedigree and good AHL stats, but not an NHL player.
He’s a 24 year old former 1st round pick that hasn’t been able to stick in the NHL for more than a handful of games at a time, so I’ll let you form your own opinion based on that.
He doesn’t, pretty much had worked his way into bust territory at this point. Unfortunately
Sam Poulin has barely played at the NHL level and hasn’t really shown any flashes either as a former first round pick. Maybe Edmonton thinks he could use a fresh start but not really of any value right now in my opinion
Not a Pens fan (ew)
Even though Jarry has been good, you are banking on the fact he keeps up his play and doesn’t fall into another rut
When Jarry was bad, he was very bad.
It’s a risky move, because you are trading two all or nothing goalies for another and then losing Kulak and a second
The other factor, aside from getting Skinner back, is that the Pens have some promising young goalies in the system right now.
Silovs is 24
Blomqvist is 23
Murashov is 21
With that in mind, it takes the pressure off Skinner to be the #1 and he can split time if needed.
is it already April 1st?
Now stu is gonna do stu stuff and go crazy and everyone will be like why did the oilers ever trade bro
😒
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End of an era fr 💔💔💔
As far as character goes, Stu’s one of my favourites. My other favourite is Sid. I hope Sid’s leadership and mentorship can elevate Stu’s game and consistency.
Interestingly enough, I’ve felt my interest in the Penguins would lessen once Sid and Malkin are gone. But I’ll always root for Stu, so I’ll still check in on the Penguins for him. I want the Oilers to regret this trade.
I actually like Edmonton and have enjoyed cheering them on. But I think this move combined with the addition of asshat Bouwman as GM makes me care significantly less for the Oilers. At the same time, McDavid is awesome and I want to see him win a cup. But I don’t mind if he does it elsewhere
I can't believe this actually happened
Considering no one wanted jarry from waivers 5 months ago this is a wild steal for the penguins. Skinner might not be the best goalie but hes got 2 straight final appearances and could very easily turn his game around
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And a lot of his performance issues are caused by the guys in front of him consistently just... Not playing defense.
WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK.
No, I'm sorry. I'm driving to Stony Plain and I'm physically keeping Kulak from leaving by holding on to his ankles.
I’ll join you
It honestly doesn’t matter too much to me how the oilers do. But god damn do I love watching Stan Bowman just fucking fail.
Edmonton traded a 2nd rd pick n Kulak for the exact same goalie who is 3yrs older and on waivers last szn if ya remember 🤣🤣🤣🤣
This might be dumber than the Frederic signing, which is saying a lot.
7 year extension inbound?
And injury prone
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If both goalies are comparable shouldn’t they stick with the one that took them to two finals and has chemistry with the team?
And is cheaper.
Yeah it doesn't make a lot of sense to us either. I would understand if it was Pickard going the other way but this makes no sense.
Pittsburgh won this trade. Lateral move by Edmonton that did absolutely nothing to address their problems with defence. Maybe it's a shake up they need....but that could have been done dozens of times this season by having a coach that would bench players who play worse than peewee at times.
At least Stu and his family won't have to deal with death threats from a handful of pos fans here. He was far better than most give him credit for. Played well above his contract ever season
Edit: hoping Jarry is an addition that shakes up the team to play professional hockey for 60 minutes each game.....
Bowman can casually go fuck himself.
God I hope Sid can pull off one last cup
Skinner has been pkaying great lately and in the end Calvin fucking Pickard gets to keep his spot
Joke org
Yeah that's what I don't understand. If the tandem was Jarry/Skinner that's actually pretty decent. But keeping Pickard is a choice and I say that as a Kings fan
Im gonna have a generational crash out this week
Here's hoping the kings sweep in 4 and the pens win in 7 vs the avs
Amen
Easy Penguins win and it’s not even close, Skinner and Kulak are in the final year of their deals. Poulin is a nothing burger, so Pittsburgh made a lateral move in net at worst, and picked up a 2nd round pick in the process.
This is a fireable offense. He was WAIVED last year. And no salary retention this year???! You literally could’ve done this for free and now you give up a haul. And you send away Skinner instead of Pickard ? An amazing trade for the Penguins
The last several years have been a fireable offense. Make a lateral move in net while losing assets where you most need them (the D) is just another example of why.
Fuck, I'm an Avs fan and I'm pissed at this.
Stan Bowman is really, really, really bad at his job
The Skinner-Jarry tandem sounded like it could work.
Skinner for Jarry...makes no sense
Sigh. This is such a dumb trade. Sure can Jarri be better than skinner? Absolutely. But I was only okay with getting him if our tandem was Jarri skinner. We still have a gaping hole in the backup position. Hopefully Ingram can figure it out. Cause pickard is not him.
Jarry
Gerry
Kuri Jarri
Im tired, boss.
I've been tired for 20 years. How the fuck have we not had above average management for a brief duration that entire time?
What an awful morning to be able to read.
W Dubas
Seems like an overpay. But we’ll see I guess
Jesus Christ lol
McDavid in shambles
McDavid fell to his knees in a Tim Hortons
Dubas robbed the oilers
That long hug last night between Skinner and Pickard said it all.
How the hell did they not retain at all? Obviously the pick is a bit far out, but we do need it right now anyway with the number of picks we have the next 2 years.
I might be overreacting but I think we got fleeced. Its not even an upgrade over Stu all things considered. Fuck Stan Bowman!
Not an overreaction. Bowman just paid a premium for a goalie who cleared waivers last season. This doesn't help you, but it certainly helps us.
The mad lads actually went and did it
I honestly to God hope Stu’s save percentage skyrockets with the Penguins. Fuck this fanbase for dogpiling him 24/7
I don't see how Edmonton improved their goalie situation.
Nobody except Stan Bowman does.
Just like how nobody except Stan Bowman thought Frederic was worth 8x$3.85m.
Congratulations to the Oilers for the upcoming guaranteed shutout against the Penguins next week.
How is Bowman an even worse negotiator than Chiarelli.
This is hilarious. After months of saying “Edmonton will only make a goalie trade if it makes them better” they go and do the most lateral trade possible. Good luck winning the cup with Jarry and Picard
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Sustenance
Stu Skinner generational run incoming.
Jarry is what he is.I don’t see him getting better but I could see Skinner turning it around.Skinner has been a starter for like 3 seasons.That’s too early to give up on him.I bet he plays better out of the Edmonton spotlight!
If you made this mock trade a week ago you would’ve probably been banned from Reddit