She goes peaceful as a first response but in the season 1 fanale and when she kicked out Vox she was ready to throw hands if push came to shove. Though her priority will always be on defending others she can take the offensive like she did with Adam. If she knew Lucifer was being used as a battery she'd be peaceful at first but then try to break the machine herself and break Vox's screen if he got in the way.
Was she ready to throw hands? Or was she bluffing? We've never seen Charlie be willing to hurt a Sinner. She's never done it. Adam isn't one of her people. He's the guy who's been genociding her people for 7 years. Being willing to fight him isn't the same.
That is fair. It wasn't directly stated if it was a bluff or not, especially when Vaggi has shown to be more than willing to follow up on Charlie's bluffs if they were. I took Charlie taking her demon form to kick Vox out was her being serious but we don't know 100% if she would have followed through or Vaggi would have for her. I see it as if she's strong enough to be peaceful against violence and hold her ground despite a majority not believing her she'd be strong enough to defend her friends.
It depends on the hellborn. The heirarchy pyramid that gets shown a lot is sort of more social standing than actual power ranking. So at a base level sinners are weaker than the Goetia but stronger than Succubi, Hounds, and Imps.
But if you look at the way imps have behaved in both Hazbin and Helluvaboss, they've been shown to both be able to garner some level of respect/strength over some sinners. IE, the barbed wire imp from Happy Day in Hell, or the fact that Sinners can't just boss Blitzø and company around when they come to IMP to purchase services.
When you think about it, they already did control Hell (well, just the pride ring but still) even before the last episode of season one. They had it all already, Hell already belonged to them. But they (especially Vox) were power-hungry and wanted even more. And that backfired and nearly destroyed the whole fucking ring, but luckily Emily and Charlie started the rescue operation that eventually brought all overlords together.
I wonder what they will do next. Vox is now just a talking head, probably not much of a danger to anything anymore.
I'd be surprised if that's permanent unless Val and Vel did it because they don't trust him. Otherwise, he'll just create a new body. AV club TV cart maybe?
This [GEESE] reeks of [GEESE]
There's a [GEESE] in the air
And I barely escaped
Being killed by a [GEESE]
Great alastor altruist died for his [GEESE]
Sorry to disappoint
That is not where it ends
I'm hungry for [GEESE] like never before
the constraints of my [GEESE] surely have a backdoor
Once I figure out how to unclip my [GEESE]
we'll see who's pulling all the [GEESE]
Their plot failing this time around doesn't mean they can't have a second go at it. Vox getting turned into a tablet doesn't take the Vees off the board entirely.
Perhaps though blasting hell doesn't earn them brownie points. Even if they salvaged things from going too badly for them, they'd be better off not going too far.
It certainly doesn't, but I wouldn't be surprised if they did not fall too far from grace. Some people were hypnotized by Vox for most of it only to hear that Valentino was a hero who risked his life to stop the nuke. There are also people who are probably still very devoted due to how far the Vees got and how bad Vox made Lucifer and Sera look.
Let’s be honest this wouldn’t have lasted long especially with Vox wanting to be the center of attention his ego would’ve driven the V’s apart even without Alastor playing on Vox’s insecurities
One person sitting in a chair brought their era to an end. That’s wild.
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Let’s be honest it wasn’t gonna last long even without Alastor getting involved though.
Yeah. If Heaven had seriously decided to wage war, things would’ve become completely irreversible.
Also imagine if Charlie learned her dad was a living battery.
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More like "pretty please let my dad go, megalomaniac TV cult man" and then nothing when he says no
Don't say that, that isn't true. She'd like, cry or something, then call her mother.
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Singing, and crying.
And maybe kick some ass for a second before running down the street singing.
That thought convinced me that a metal Charlie song when she snaps would be a banger
Literal hell yeah it would!
Immediate 19476662847284365827 listens on Spotify
Nah, she'd break his screen, just not kill him.
Ah, yes, just like all the other times she showed herself to be willing to commit violence against Sinners
She goes peaceful as a first response but in the season 1 fanale and when she kicked out Vox she was ready to throw hands if push came to shove. Though her priority will always be on defending others she can take the offensive like she did with Adam. If she knew Lucifer was being used as a battery she'd be peaceful at first but then try to break the machine herself and break Vox's screen if he got in the way.
Was she ready to throw hands? Or was she bluffing? We've never seen Charlie be willing to hurt a Sinner. She's never done it. Adam isn't one of her people. He's the guy who's been genociding her people for 7 years. Being willing to fight him isn't the same.
That is fair. It wasn't directly stated if it was a bluff or not, especially when Vaggi has shown to be more than willing to follow up on Charlie's bluffs if they were. I took Charlie taking her demon form to kick Vox out was her being serious but we don't know 100% if she would have followed through or Vaggi would have for her. I see it as if she's strong enough to be peaceful against violence and hold her ground despite a majority not believing her she'd be strong enough to defend her friends.
Heaven, bruh the rest of Hell might have gotten involved if it wasn't for plot.
I hope S3 shows that even the strongest Sinner is small fry compare to some of the powerhouses of the hellborn or even the other Sins
Aren't hellborn weaker than sinners since they have no soul?
Guys like Stolas are higher than the overlords
It depends on the hellborn. The heirarchy pyramid that gets shown a lot is sort of more social standing than actual power ranking. So at a base level sinners are weaker than the Goetia but stronger than Succubi, Hounds, and Imps.
But if you look at the way imps have behaved in both Hazbin and Helluvaboss, they've been shown to both be able to garner some level of respect/strength over some sinners. IE, the barbed wire imp from Happy Day in Hell, or the fact that Sinners can't just boss Blitzø and company around when they come to IMP to purchase services.
Agreed. Heck, I was honestly expecting Val to drive a wedge between him and the other two before Al’s capture.
Alastor is inherently involved because of Vox’s obsession with him.
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Very true
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All those boxes contain ducks, don't they?
He did say he will destroy their Status quo
Alastor was so bored that he wanted to figure out if he could crush Vox's plan literally without lifting a finger
All while tied up.
To be fair, the chair had wheels.
Hey, at least they tried
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The fact that this tweet was made by gooseworx makes it so much better
That's gonna be the plot of the next TADC episode. Just replace God with Caine.
If they hurt Caine I'm killing the entire circus crew
then it'll just be me and him :D
Once we get up there, and take that angelic throne
We can strangle god with a cord of a telephone
Award worthy
When you think about it, they already did control Hell (well, just the pride ring but still) even before the last episode of season one. They had it all already, Hell already belonged to them. But they (especially Vox) were power-hungry and wanted even more. And that backfired and nearly destroyed the whole fucking ring, but luckily Emily and Charlie started the rescue operation that eventually brought all overlords together.
I wonder what they will do next. Vox is now just a talking head, probably not much of a danger to anything anymore.
I'd be surprised if that's permanent unless Val and Vel did it because they don't trust him. Otherwise, he'll just create a new body. AV club TV cart maybe?
They controlled one city
Considering that none of Vox’s contracts got destroyed, I would imagine in a year or two he’ll be back
it really aged like milk, huh
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Honk
imagine if there was psychology about that, oh wait
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This [GEESE] reeks of [GEESE] There's a [GEESE] in the air And I barely escaped Being killed by a [GEESE] Great alastor altruist died for his [GEESE] Sorry to disappoint That is not where it ends I'm hungry for [GEESE] like never before the constraints of my [GEESE] surely have a backdoor Once I figure out how to unclip my [GEESE] we'll see who's pulling all the [GEESE]
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Yes
Gueee he got a little. Carried away! You guys know him right?
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Val: I’m not talking to you!
Well it did. Just a very, very short-term future.
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Their plot failing this time around doesn't mean they can't have a second go at it. Vox getting turned into a tablet doesn't take the Vees off the board entirely.
Perhaps though blasting hell doesn't earn them brownie points. Even if they salvaged things from going too badly for them, they'd be better off not going too far.
It certainly doesn't, but I wouldn't be surprised if they did not fall too far from grace. Some people were hypnotized by Vox for most of it only to hear that Valentino was a hero who risked his life to stop the nuke. There are also people who are probably still very devoted due to how far the Vees got and how bad Vox made Lucifer and Sera look.
Remember when Vel told the Overlord meeting that her and the boys drew up a full assault plan in Season 1?
Pepperidge Farms remembers.
Nobody went for it (and their plan was probably short sighted since they didn't knowhow angels could be harmed at that point.)
Their plan was deliberately meant to fail at that point.
You can bet all three of them were planning to sit in some bunker somewhere whilst all the other overlords suicide themselves in an unwinnable war.
The other overlords just weren't stupid enough to fall for it.
It was probably around the time Adam's assault failed that they started to think taking over heaven is actually feasible.
Al's statement in Stayed Gone aged like fine wine tho
Except for "I said no and now he's pissy that's the tea 🎶"
But I guess "I tore his heart out chewed it in front of him and spat it out in his face and now he's pissy that's the tea 🎶" wasn't as catchy ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Alastor projected HARD with that one
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Trivago in the corner, waiting for the next torture session booking:
Oh god wtf lol
It did age well. It foreshadowed what was coming up for the next season.
ROME
WAS
N'T
BUILT
IN
A
DAY
YOU
GOTTA
CLIMB
To he fair, they did get pretty close.
Maybe 2nd time they'll get it lol
Well, considering that Vox sabotaged the whole thing due to sheer incompetence it is not surprising.
Let’s be honest this wouldn’t have lasted long especially with Vox wanting to be the center of attention his ego would’ve driven the V’s apart even without Alastor playing on Vox’s insecurities
It sure as hell didnt
They foreshadowed next season,
But their plan failed because of vox’s inability to resist hate.
They got close, but Vox is no longer a vee
The future of hell belongs to the deer man..🙂↕️
No no it did not
Yep vaggie hell!!!
The series isn’t over yet. That’s all I’m saying 👀
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They lost big time…. The Vs turned into the Ls
Reputation for them is sort of ruined but I’d imagine they’ll find a way to slowly grow back
No no no, the future did belong to them, the future is just past the present, they had it for a few minutes there