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Went to Olive garden a couple months ago. Didn't eat breakfast or lunch. Barely touched the main dish that day. Ate the chicken gnocchi soup (like 3 or 4 bowls of it) and plenty of bread sticks. Took the main dish home. Had it for two meals.
5 meals worth of restaurant quality food for the 20 bucks or whatever.
5 meals for $20 is amazing but you need to raise your standards for "restaurant quality". Olive garden literally did a buy one take one deal where they would hand you the food in the microwave container they use.
Back in the day, Don Pablos used to have free chips and salsa for people waiting to be seated. Well one time the wait was really long. After a while, we decided we weren’t even hungry anymore and just left.
I haven't gone back to Olive garden since they cut me off on the sticks, my meal wasn't even that large, they kept bringing smaller and smaller baskets until they stopped showing up
it's 50/50 on if our server will offer more bread and salad but I literally only go to olive garden for the breadsticks and salad so I'm damn sure to keep asking for those refills if they don't offer it themselves
We don't charge them at all until we realize what's up. Basically, we would get large groups of people (teenage boys mostly) walk in to try and eat as many rolls as they could. They were monsters. Would demand "your hottest waitress" (and harass her the whole time), need endless refills of water, and go through countless baskets of bread. Then they would try to walk out at the end and would throw temper tantrums when the manager charged them. It was never even that much, maybe 30 bucks for the whole group. They really thought they were just gonna take up a table on a busy night and eat endless bread for free though.
We get the soup and salad at Italian Gardens maybe once a year. Their prices have grown too high. We enjoy the two servings of soup and chow down on the breadsticks. We have our own reusable containers to take all of our salads and a few breadsticks home. My tip is a five dollar bill. The server brings me a glass of tsp water, and someone else brings the food we ordered off the electric menu on the table. The serving also brings the second bowl of soup and four breadsticks. $5 is enough for her walking 20 feet three times. If she feels cheated, she needs to talk to her employer.
One thing to realize is that the prices are artificially lower, assuming you will tip at the standard 15-20%. Minimum wage is much less for wait staff. And is many restaurants a $5 bill will actually cost the waitress money. (For example, paying the bartender out of tips, splitting tips with the dishwashers and hostess, etc.)
It isn't just a "Here's $5 for you for what you did."
It is "the whole system of your pay, and the rest of the team's pay is based on the assumption that I tip 15-20% of the check. Businesses essentially promise that as your compensation, and just don't want to charge more for every item and pay taxes on it"
I recently tipped $5 on 4 items ($68) being brought to the table. My friend was incensed, though I genuinely thought it was a fair addition-- as in, I would accept that for the same. I figure one could do all the necessary work for four tables of similar size in an hour, and make an extra $20/hr.
I asked her how much an appropriate tip would be if the motivation is that servers don't make enough. She told she made $50k as a server working part-time, which is more per hour than any professional position I've ever had.
I am open to a higher number being the actually fair price, but I genuinely can't find any explanation why. I would actually really appreciate someone laying out the math rather than a moralizing argument.
Yes she only walked 20 feet, three times, while you were there for you. I feel like people don’t realize all the stuff servers do before you are there to prep everything so they only have to “walk 20 feet”.
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Stop blaming the consumer you bootlicker. Establishment owners should learn to not be greedy and pay their workers properly. You're a good boy for them, huh, shifting the blame on the consumer.
Protesting tip culture is not going out to eat or drink at places tips are expected and being vocal about it. Not dicking over the people who work tip jobs.
Theres many ways to protest one of them is to not feed on to the tipping culture by not tipping its a very simple protest. Being vocal about it is also a great way i would combine them. When enough people dont tip employees will have to leave their jobs or they will be forced to protest too. Ending up with the bussines shutting down from not having workers or having to fix their pay. How hot i am shouldnt have a factor in my pay the reality is that tipping culture leads to pretty privilege being a factor in your pay.
Not tipping doesnt shutter those buisnesses. It forces employees to work more jobs or just increases turn over. There will always be some one desperate to take the job.
Not going to places that dont pay a fair wage forcing employees to rely on tips forces the buisness to change their practices. Having worked places/shifts your pay+tips dont even make it halfway to minimum it doesn't hurt the business at all. These are the same buisnesses that would pay $2 an hour but write you up for going into OT just working the hours you were scheduled. I've watched people be sent home (and been sent home) so they dont have to add that one extra dollar an hour for half a shift. They would rather be short staffed than pay an extra 4-5 bucks.
Don't go there then. You're not a hero by giving a predatory restaurant money and then just not paying the person getting preyed on. But nontippers never seem to want to give up their table service
If an employer is greedy, you shouldn’t punish their server as a way to protest the unfair system. Show the slightest bit of compassion instead and leave a decent tip. They need it to survive.
If you really think they are paying the difference you haven't worked many service jobs. There are plenty that will drag their heels while the labor board pulls them through the mud.
You know what would let them survive? If their employers actually did their responsibility of paying their workers a living wage. It is not my fault that corporate is greedy and the price you give me on the menu is the price I pay.
But how can it change if this stupid tipping culture survives? People should just boycott establishments that refuse to pay their people properly or not tip to force them to adjust wages. It's genius from the capitalist perspective, just shift the blame on the consumer and pressure them to pay your workers for you..
And what do you expect the government to do? Look outside of the USA. This is literally a cultural issue. It's normalized elsewhere to not pay tips automatically and the workers are paid better.
I'm not an American and I don't live in the USA, and I hate your tipping culture. In my country, tips are not automatically expected and employers have to pay them better otherwise their workers would not be there. Your country is so far behind on so many things, and you don't move forward by upholding this exploitative culture.
I don't live in the US either. Outside of the US there are laws that prevent business owners from underpaying their employees. If restaurant owners outside of the US could get away with underpaying their employees don't you think they would?
Paying for the food and not tipping is still supporting the exploitation. Because so long as you keep going out to eat the companies will always find people to fill the roll. Even if everyone stopped tipping there will be some one desperate enough to take the job. Or those wirh enough time in the industry its hard to leave.
You're absolutely ignoring your own morals so you can have your cake and eat it too. If people really wanted a change they would stop supporting buisnesses that dont pay a fair wage. They would ask before being seated or call ahead. They would force those bars and resteraunts to close down and keep closing down untill the only way to keep your doors open is to pay your people.
But you dont want that. You want the cheaper prices. You want the convenience.
Then why support the business then? If you find the idea so wrong then you shouldn't be eating at those places or only places that don't have tipped service.
That’s fake logic. It is up to the employer to pay enough to retain workers. I will pay the price asked or just not go there. If they go broke, too bad. The Walgreens lunch counter, Chi-Chi’s , Victoria Station , Sambo’s, etc failed and we seem to be surviving with more restaurants than we need.
That sounds like their problem. I consider it immoral to support this nasty US tipping culture that only benefits greedy owners. You can challenge the status quo by not tipping automatically.
If you can afford the food then buy it. You don't need to tip, no one is entitled to receive a tip
I don't think making people broke will solve the issue. We already have people who are broke and need multiple jobs and it has yet to make employers pay a liveable wage for some roles
There will be no change unless there's a pressure on the employers. Those people will either have to pressure their employers or find a different job. Otherwise they will be exploited like this forever
In a perfect system, yes. The unfortunate thing is, the job market is garbage and it's the employees that will suffer the longest and the most, and that's if we can pressure them to change in the first place. Some people won't last thru trying to pressure employers, as they can't afford it, nor can they find another job
Oh come on. Assuming you’re there for an hour, a server could reasonably expect a $12 tip on two $30 meals. Yes, apparently the server is working less for you (which I doubt), but you’re also taking a table away from people who tip normally. I agree that prices are too high, but that means they’re ALSO too high for people in the service industry who rely on tips. We’re also in a cost of living crisis. Tipping $5 because you think the server didn’t “earn” more is peak “fuck you, I got mine” logic. Have some fucking class consciousness.
By tipping egregious sums, you are literally enabling the employer to underpay the workers and offset the cost to customers by artificially inflating prices with "voluntary" tips.
A 10% tip if very generous. A 20% tip is crazy to expect for a normal or minimal amount of work.
Um, nope. How things SHOULD BE doesn’t match how they ARE. You don’t make change by screwing over the people on the receiving end of an unfair system. I can work to end tipping culture and continue to tip fairly in the meantime.
"screwing over the people" it's the employers who screw them over. Don't blame the customer, the customer is not responsible for their wage. And without any pressure, it won't improve. The workers have to pressure their employers by demanding higher wages or leaving. When Americans remove/change this stupid tipping culture, things can finally improve.
The buisnesses that operates off not paying a decent wage...
There are plenty of places that continue to operate that you get shit tips, or have certain shifts with horrid tips. So long as there is still buisnesses coming through nothing changes. They just have a high turnover rate.
If no one paid tips, the workers wouldn't accept working sub minimum wage. The only reason they do accept it because the tips make it much better than minimum wage (at the cost of the customer of course).
I work those jobs, and yes it can be a decent living. A fair amount of tip jobs aren't though, and as I already said there ARE jobs you earn less than minimum. Its rare complaints make it to the labor board and when they do by the time people get paid they are already screwed over and onto a new job. The establishments just accept the high turnover rate.
The consumer is paying no matter what. Higher hourly wages mean increased prices. Food tends to not have a high profit margin for mom and pop places, you do much better on drinks. Not paying employees is how they mostly operate and keep prices down (aside from higher end places). I agree its a predatory system, but not tipping flat out doesn't work for change. The best option is to avoid places that dont at least pay minimum hourly wage, and push for candidates at the city and state level to pas bans on paying below minimum for hourly workers.
If you live in a mid sized city or larger you should be able to find somewhere that pays minimum wage or more to employees. If tip is included in the bill/prices, or there is some other system of compensation per check for employees the buisnesses are generally more than happy to tell you.
That happened when you went to the restaurant in the first place. What you're suggesting is giving money to the business owner but withholding it from the workers.
That's not how it works. I am not against the existence of restaurants, I AM against the practice of underpaying workers and shifting the cost to the customer. By paying into the system, you are enabling it. If people refused to pay egregious tips by default, the businesses would have to either raise wages or lose workers.
In fact, many times service workers WANT the system, because they get paid more with tips than normally. This incredible GREED is something I will not stand for and enable.
What you're saying now is that you're not against the business practice of the restaurant, you just want to pay workers less because you think they're greedy.
The only way to end this greediness is to not pay the workers with tips. Workers will pressure the employers to begin paying them properly or the businesses will end and workers will find a different job. You don't end exploitation by actively supporting it
As I said, you support the exploitation when going to the restaurant in the first place. Not tipping is only fucking over the workers, not the people who are exploiting the workers.
Can you not read? I said I am not against the EXISTENCE of restaurants as a business, but AM against the practice of underpaying workers and shifting costs on to the customer. I LITERALLY wrote this out.
Also, the fact is that many service workers deliberately choose these jobs because they know they can get paid more than normally. They choose to take additional risk and then guilt trip people when they don't get a guaranteed 29 dollars an hour at the customer's dime.
Thank you for over tipping so the server will still be there next year when we visit. Poor child, having to scrape by on a national average for Olive Garden servers only grossing $29/hr wages and tips.
12 is exactly twenty percent of 60, national average means nothing when CoL varies so widely between cities, gross income is not net income, and you are hugely overestimating how much servers make. I wish for you everything you wish for people barely making ends meet.
Somehow Reddit thinks that servers scrape by in abject poverty. At age 17, in like 2013 or something, my brother brought in $250+ per night in tips at a Chinese restaurant. He unironically made more than my dad per hour at that point
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We get the soup and salad at Italian Gardens maybe once a year. Their prices have got too high. We enjoy the two servings of soup and chow down on the breadsticks. We have our own reusable containers to take all of our salads and a few breadsticks home. My tip is a five dollar bill. The server brings me a glass of tsp water, and someone else brings the food we ordered off the electric menu on the table. The serving also brings the second bowl of soup and four breadsticks. $5 is enough for her walking 20 feet three times. If she feels cheated, she needs to talk to her employer.
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Went to Olive garden a couple months ago. Didn't eat breakfast or lunch. Barely touched the main dish that day. Ate the chicken gnocchi soup (like 3 or 4 bowls of it) and plenty of bread sticks. Took the main dish home. Had it for two meals.
5 meals worth of restaurant quality food for the 20 bucks or whatever.
5 meals for $20 is amazing but you need to raise your standards for "restaurant quality". Olive garden literally did a buy one take one deal where they would hand you the food in the microwave container they use.
Counter point: chicken and gnocchi
Back in the day, Don Pablos used to have free chips and salsa for people waiting to be seated. Well one time the wait was really long. After a while, we decided we weren’t even hungry anymore and just left.
Why is there black mold on the walls?
because bread taste better than key
Maybe that's why they left?
Moisture.
I haven't gone back to Olive garden since they cut me off on the sticks, my meal wasn't even that large, they kept bringing smaller and smaller baskets until they stopped showing up
They leave the kiosk on the table. I use it to summon the request more bread. Its the best part. No way they’ll cut ME off
Bread lord over here.
Bread lust is real
it's 50/50 on if our server will offer more bread and salad but I literally only go to olive garden for the breadsticks and salad so I'm damn sure to keep asking for those refills if they don't offer it themselves
Shrink-flation.
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ngl I've always been tempted to do this
At Texas Roadhouse we would charge them every time
Did you take it off once they actually ordered?
We don't charge them at all until we realize what's up. Basically, we would get large groups of people (teenage boys mostly) walk in to try and eat as many rolls as they could. They were monsters. Would demand "your hottest waitress" (and harass her the whole time), need endless refills of water, and go through countless baskets of bread. Then they would try to walk out at the end and would throw temper tantrums when the manager charged them. It was never even that much, maybe 30 bucks for the whole group. They really thought they were just gonna take up a table on a busy night and eat endless bread for free though.
Ugh teens are the worst. I’d get stuff like this when I worked in coffee :/
My wife could live on Texas Roadhouse bread alone!
they gotta relax that 1 butter rule tho
We get the soup and salad at Italian Gardens maybe once a year. Their prices have grown too high. We enjoy the two servings of soup and chow down on the breadsticks. We have our own reusable containers to take all of our salads and a few breadsticks home. My tip is a five dollar bill. The server brings me a glass of tsp water, and someone else brings the food we ordered off the electric menu on the table. The serving also brings the second bowl of soup and four breadsticks. $5 is enough for her walking 20 feet three times. If she feels cheated, she needs to talk to her employer.
One thing to realize is that the prices are artificially lower, assuming you will tip at the standard 15-20%. Minimum wage is much less for wait staff. And is many restaurants a $5 bill will actually cost the waitress money. (For example, paying the bartender out of tips, splitting tips with the dishwashers and hostess, etc.)
It isn't just a "Here's $5 for you for what you did." It is "the whole system of your pay, and the rest of the team's pay is based on the assumption that I tip 15-20% of the check. Businesses essentially promise that as your compensation, and just don't want to charge more for every item and pay taxes on it"
I recently tipped $5 on 4 items ($68) being brought to the table. My friend was incensed, though I genuinely thought it was a fair addition-- as in, I would accept that for the same. I figure one could do all the necessary work for four tables of similar size in an hour, and make an extra $20/hr.
I asked her how much an appropriate tip would be if the motivation is that servers don't make enough. She told she made $50k as a server working part-time, which is more per hour than any professional position I've ever had.
I am open to a higher number being the actually fair price, but I genuinely can't find any explanation why. I would actually really appreciate someone laying out the math rather than a moralizing argument.
When I really want to go all out I order the bottom list dish of alfredo sauce to dip my breadsticks in
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sir this is a wendy's
Yes she only walked 20 feet, three times, while you were there for you. I feel like people don’t realize all the stuff servers do before you are there to prep everything so they only have to “walk 20 feet”.
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Stop blaming the consumer you bootlicker. Establishment owners should learn to not be greedy and pay their workers properly. You're a good boy for them, huh, shifting the blame on the consumer.
You’re cheap.
No, frugal is not the same as cheap.
That's true. And you're the latter.
“Yes, you’re right” as I always say to end conversations.
Lamentation of the lazy.
how not to learn anything 101
in this economy either you're cheap or you're gonna have to learn to be cheap soon
That’s a copout. If you can’t afford to tip your server, you can’t afford to dine out.
Nah protest tipping culture
"Protest tipping culture by only paying the people in charge of the wages and not the staff being cheated: That'll show 'em"
Protesting tip culture is not going out to eat or drink at places tips are expected and being vocal about it. Not dicking over the people who work tip jobs.
Theres many ways to protest one of them is to not feed on to the tipping culture by not tipping its a very simple protest. Being vocal about it is also a great way i would combine them. When enough people dont tip employees will have to leave their jobs or they will be forced to protest too. Ending up with the bussines shutting down from not having workers or having to fix their pay. How hot i am shouldnt have a factor in my pay the reality is that tipping culture leads to pretty privilege being a factor in your pay.
Not tipping doesnt shutter those buisnesses. It forces employees to work more jobs or just increases turn over. There will always be some one desperate to take the job.
Not going to places that dont pay a fair wage forcing employees to rely on tips forces the buisness to change their practices. Having worked places/shifts your pay+tips dont even make it halfway to minimum it doesn't hurt the business at all. These are the same buisnesses that would pay $2 an hour but write you up for going into OT just working the hours you were scheduled. I've watched people be sent home (and been sent home) so they dont have to add that one extra dollar an hour for half a shift. They would rather be short staffed than pay an extra 4-5 bucks.
Godamn aight maybe i was wrong ty for ur perspective
You chose the right screen name, I’ll give you that.
U too
Squeak.
If the restaurant cant afford to pay their servers a liveable wage, they shouldnt exist. American tipping culture is fcking weird.
Tipping is for exceptional service, not supplementing the wages of people doing their job while their employer is a greedy bastard.
Don't go there then. You're not a hero by giving a predatory restaurant money and then just not paying the person getting preyed on. But nontippers never seem to want to give up their table service
If an employer is greedy, you shouldn’t punish their server as a way to protest the unfair system. Show the slightest bit of compassion instead and leave a decent tip. They need it to survive.
Employers are forced to pay up to the minimum wage if tips don't cover it, so don't tip, force it on to the employers to pay.
And as always work to get the minimum wage increased.
If you really think they are paying the difference you haven't worked many service jobs. There are plenty that will drag their heels while the labor board pulls them through the mud.
You know what would let them survive? If their employers actually did their responsibility of paying their workers a living wage. It is not my fault that corporate is greedy and the price you give me on the menu is the price I pay.
No, you did not create the horrible system, but you’re absolutely making it worse.
No need to reply. There is nothing we can learn from each other.
That should be true but in the US it isn't
But how can it change if this stupid tipping culture survives? People should just boycott establishments that refuse to pay their people properly or not tip to force them to adjust wages. It's genius from the capitalist perspective, just shift the blame on the consumer and pressure them to pay your workers for you..
Lobby the government I guess. But in the meantime don't go to restaurants unless you're willing to tip
And what do you expect the government to do? Look outside of the USA. This is literally a cultural issue. It's normalized elsewhere to not pay tips automatically and the workers are paid better.
I'm not an American and I don't live in the USA, and I hate your tipping culture. In my country, tips are not automatically expected and employers have to pay them better otherwise their workers would not be there. Your country is so far behind on so many things, and you don't move forward by upholding this exploitative culture.
I don't live in the US either. Outside of the US there are laws that prevent business owners from underpaying their employees. If restaurant owners outside of the US could get away with underpaying their employees don't you think they would?
Literally objectively incorrect. If you can afford to pay for the food, you can afford to dine at a restaurant. And this guy even tips!
You’re right, literally I was incorrect. What I meant was if you can afford to dine out but you don’t tip, you’re a selfish, inconsiderate person.
You're again incorrect. Even if you can afford to tip, it is morally correct to not tip.
Your morals are fucked.
I'd say the opposite. Supporting an exploitative industry and enabling companies to underpay workers is the immoral thing.
Paying for the food and not tipping is still supporting the exploitation. Because so long as you keep going out to eat the companies will always find people to fill the roll. Even if everyone stopped tipping there will be some one desperate enough to take the job. Or those wirh enough time in the industry its hard to leave.
You're absolutely ignoring your own morals so you can have your cake and eat it too. If people really wanted a change they would stop supporting buisnesses that dont pay a fair wage. They would ask before being seated or call ahead. They would force those bars and resteraunts to close down and keep closing down untill the only way to keep your doors open is to pay your people.
But you dont want that. You want the cheaper prices. You want the convenience.
Then why support the business then? If you find the idea so wrong then you shouldn't be eating at those places or only places that don't have tipped service.
That’s fake logic. It is up to the employer to pay enough to retain workers. I will pay the price asked or just not go there. If they go broke, too bad. The Walgreens lunch counter, Chi-Chi’s , Victoria Station , Sambo’s, etc failed and we seem to be surviving with more restaurants than we need.
It is up the employer yes, but tipping is so ingrained in USA restaurants that they need those tips. If you can't afford a meal, don't eat out 😉
That sounds like their problem. I consider it immoral to support this nasty US tipping culture that only benefits greedy owners. You can challenge the status quo by not tipping automatically.
If you can afford the food then buy it. You don't need to tip, no one is entitled to receive a tip
I don't think making people broke will solve the issue. We already have people who are broke and need multiple jobs and it has yet to make employers pay a liveable wage for some roles
There will be no change unless there's a pressure on the employers. Those people will either have to pressure their employers or find a different job. Otherwise they will be exploited like this forever
In a perfect system, yes. The unfortunate thing is, the job market is garbage and it's the employees that will suffer the longest and the most, and that's if we can pressure them to change in the first place. Some people won't last thru trying to pressure employers, as they can't afford it, nor can they find another job
Yes, you’re right…
Oh come on. Assuming you’re there for an hour, a server could reasonably expect a $12 tip on two $30 meals. Yes, apparently the server is working less for you (which I doubt), but you’re also taking a table away from people who tip normally. I agree that prices are too high, but that means they’re ALSO too high for people in the service industry who rely on tips. We’re also in a cost of living crisis. Tipping $5 because you think the server didn’t “earn” more is peak “fuck you, I got mine” logic. Have some fucking class consciousness.
Are you insane? WORKING CLASS CONSCIOUSNESS?!?
By tipping egregious sums, you are literally enabling the employer to underpay the workers and offset the cost to customers by artificially inflating prices with "voluntary" tips.
A 10% tip if very generous. A 20% tip is crazy to expect for a normal or minimal amount of work.
You are not entitled to a tip. It is earned.
I'm also baffled. I'm not an American and these american pro-status quo takes are insane
Um, nope. How things SHOULD BE doesn’t match how they ARE. You don’t make change by screwing over the people on the receiving end of an unfair system. I can work to end tipping culture and continue to tip fairly in the meantime.
"screwing over the people" it's the employers who screw them over. Don't blame the customer, the customer is not responsible for their wage. And without any pressure, it won't improve. The workers have to pressure their employers by demanding higher wages or leaving. When Americans remove/change this stupid tipping culture, things can finally improve.
They're not enabling anything. You don't get your revolution by starving service workers.
You ARE enabling the system by propping it up with YOUR money.
When you go in the doors and then patronize the business you are propping it up with your money.
Sure, you enable the business existing. But you don't directly enable the business practice of tips if you don't tip, or tip small amounts.
The buisnesses that operates off not paying a decent wage...
There are plenty of places that continue to operate that you get shit tips, or have certain shifts with horrid tips. So long as there is still buisnesses coming through nothing changes. They just have a high turnover rate.
If no one paid tips, the workers wouldn't accept working sub minimum wage. The only reason they do accept it because the tips make it much better than minimum wage (at the cost of the customer of course).
I work those jobs, and yes it can be a decent living. A fair amount of tip jobs aren't though, and as I already said there ARE jobs you earn less than minimum. Its rare complaints make it to the labor board and when they do by the time people get paid they are already screwed over and onto a new job. The establishments just accept the high turnover rate.
The consumer is paying no matter what. Higher hourly wages mean increased prices. Food tends to not have a high profit margin for mom and pop places, you do much better on drinks. Not paying employees is how they mostly operate and keep prices down (aside from higher end places). I agree its a predatory system, but not tipping flat out doesn't work for change. The best option is to avoid places that dont at least pay minimum hourly wage, and push for candidates at the city and state level to pas bans on paying below minimum for hourly workers.
If you live in a mid sized city or larger you should be able to find somewhere that pays minimum wage or more to employees. If tip is included in the bill/prices, or there is some other system of compensation per check for employees the buisnesses are generally more than happy to tell you.
That happened when you went to the restaurant in the first place. What you're suggesting is giving money to the business owner but withholding it from the workers.
That's not how it works. I am not against the existence of restaurants, I AM against the practice of underpaying workers and shifting the cost to the customer. By paying into the system, you are enabling it. If people refused to pay egregious tips by default, the businesses would have to either raise wages or lose workers.
In fact, many times service workers WANT the system, because they get paid more with tips than normally. This incredible GREED is something I will not stand for and enable.
What you're saying now is that you're not against the business practice of the restaurant, you just want to pay workers less because you think they're greedy.
The only way to end this greediness is to not pay the workers with tips. Workers will pressure the employers to begin paying them properly or the businesses will end and workers will find a different job. You don't end exploitation by actively supporting it
As I said, you support the exploitation when going to the restaurant in the first place. Not tipping is only fucking over the workers, not the people who are exploiting the workers.
Can you not read? I said I am not against the EXISTENCE of restaurants as a business, but AM against the practice of underpaying workers and shifting costs on to the customer. I LITERALLY wrote this out.
Also, the fact is that many service workers deliberately choose these jobs because they know they can get paid more than normally. They choose to take additional risk and then guilt trip people when they don't get a guaranteed 29 dollars an hour at the customer's dime.
You say you don't like the practice but then you only complain that the workers are getting paid too much and you don't like spending money on that.
Thank you for over tipping so the server will still be there next year when we visit. Poor child, having to scrape by on a national average for Olive Garden servers only grossing $29/hr wages and tips.
12 is exactly twenty percent of 60, national average means nothing when CoL varies so widely between cities, gross income is not net income, and you are hugely overestimating how much servers make. I wish for you everything you wish for people barely making ends meet.
I stated national average gross which means some make more, some make less.
Somehow Reddit thinks that servers scrape by in abject poverty. At age 17, in like 2013 or something, my brother brought in $250+ per night in tips at a Chinese restaurant. He unironically made more than my dad per hour at that point
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We get the soup and salad at Italian Gardens maybe once a year. Their prices have got too high. We enjoy the two servings of soup and chow down on the breadsticks. We have our own reusable containers to take all of our salads and a few breadsticks home. My tip is a five dollar bill. The server brings me a glass of tsp water, and someone else brings the food we ordered off the electric menu on the table. The serving also brings the second bowl of soup and four breadsticks. $5 is enough for her walking 20 feet three times. If she feels cheated, she needs to talk to her employer.
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You’re a jerk
The complimentary bread is always delicious.
I'd tip 100000000% on the free bread
That's still 0
0 of 1 million% is 1% stupid head
No it's 1000000000%
Me with Red Libster Biscuits or the buns with cinnamon butter at Texas Roadhouse.
Red Libster.. where both parties come together to eat
I always wanted to try this
What was the bread saying?
It’s like the people that sit at the bar at “Red Lobster,” and order a non alcoholic strawberry daiquiri just to feast on the free cheddar biscuits…..
friend told me
That bread do go hard tho