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Brianne growing to respect Jamie after he saves her and tells her the truth about the kingslaying is one of my favorite parts of the show. Jamie is such a nicely written character.
The thing I was really pulling for Jamie was to kill the Nightking. Everything was pointing to that. He was at Winterfell for the battle, he had a Valyrian sword, and he is the kingslayer after all.
One of the many unanswered questions I have from the TV series...who formed Sansa's Queensguard once she has been declared Queen of the North? Would Sansa really have let Brienne and Pod go to guard Bran instead when there were so few people left she trusted? If felt like such a weak ending to have Brienne in KL simply so she could complete Jaime's entry in the Book of Brothers.
It is an honorable position, and she was all about honor. As for Sansa, the north didn't have a knightly tradition. Sansa would be guarded by northern warriors, but they were unlikely to be knights. That was a southron thing.
I can't imagine Brienne asking to be released from her vow to protect the Stark girls; Sansa must have released her (and Pod) freely. You're right, the North didn't previously have the tradition of a Kingsguard, but they hadn't been an independent kingdom before ruled by an unmarried young Queen, either.
Both Robb and Jon were good fighters in their own right when they accepted the mantle of King. Sansa, on the other hand, couldn't defend herself; was isolated from her family members; had learned from her previous mistakes of placing too much trust in the wrong people; the Northern guards we had seen previously had not exactly covered themselves in glory. Remember the two embarrassments who tried to prevent Arya from entering Winterfell? If that's the best on whom she had to rely, Sansa would have been killed in her sleep!
Whom would she have appointed to protect her? To train them, even? Would she have started a new Queensguard tradition for the North? Sansa has the courtly and political instincts of a Southern ruler with the heart of a Northerner.
Brienne would have enjoyed following in the footsteps of her ancestor, Ser Duncan the Tall. I just found the show's last scenes corny and not believable.
Yes, a considerable bit of the final season was an embarrassment. No argument there. As for training a new generation of northern warriors, I would imagine Jon would have some opinions as to who should be appointed Master of Arms. He'd have fought with those Stark soldiers who survived. As for Sansa, I think she was considerably embittered by her experience in Southron courts. I question whether she would introduce their traditions. She knew from her own experience being beaten by Joffrey's Kingsguard that all the knightly vows were wind.
In Feast for Crows she ponders kids once or twice and thinks she might enjoy them, but decides (at least for the moment) the life of the soldier is where she belongs.
I do think if Renly had asked she would have happily accepted. But it’s overwhelmingly obvious that most men did not give her the same respect and dignity that Renly did.
I mean... That is literally something they could have done. Not easily, but we have scenes of them literally looking at Sansa in king's landing. Not in any immediate danger or anything.
And with the red wedding having already happened, birenne's "get her somewhere safe" objective could well mean somewhere she and Jaime would have the final word on things, as opposed to Tywin.
Jaime gives Tywin his word to marry a woman who isn't cersei before he sends Bryenne after Sansa.
So while I doubt they would have had the time to have children for the first few years... If Jaime takes Tywin's offer earlier and returns to Casterly rock, he may negotiate to take Sansa and Tyrion with him, instead of having to negotiate for Tyrion's life.
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And before someone says Bryenne doesn't have the political acumen for this... Sure. But Jaime does.
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Brianne growing to respect Jamie after he saves her and tells her the truth about the kingslaying is one of my favorite parts of the show. Jamie is such a nicely written character.
I like them as how their story ended but don’t like how people romanticize Jamie. He was always going To throw his redemption away for Cersei.
I assume he will be the valonquar, since he is technically her younger brother.
The thing I was really pulling for Jamie was to kill the Nightking. Everything was pointing to that. He was at Winterfell for the battle, he had a Valyrian sword, and he is the kingslayer after all.
I KNOW
Definitely not the path he’s set on in the books
Im curious how its going to go in the book. As of now I agree with you but who knows whats going to happen in the story
It's not going anywhere in the book. Martin is done.
I mean, hes completely cut ties with Cersei in the book and is about to get owned by BwB and undead Lady Cat.... so....
It feels right to me honestly. GRRM isn't shy about showing the more toxic/bad traits of people and returning to the toxic lover is pretty on point
Didn't Jamie tell her the truth about slaying King Aerys the very first time that they met in his holding cell in *Robb's camp?
Robb’s
Brienne got a happy ending as Lord Commander of the Kingsguard. Not everyone wants to be a wife and mother.
One of the many unanswered questions I have from the TV series...who formed Sansa's Queensguard once she has been declared Queen of the North? Would Sansa really have let Brienne and Pod go to guard Bran instead when there were so few people left she trusted? If felt like such a weak ending to have Brienne in KL simply so she could complete Jaime's entry in the Book of Brothers.
It is an honorable position, and she was all about honor. As for Sansa, the north didn't have a knightly tradition. Sansa would be guarded by northern warriors, but they were unlikely to be knights. That was a southron thing.
I can't imagine Brienne asking to be released from her vow to protect the Stark girls; Sansa must have released her (and Pod) freely. You're right, the North didn't previously have the tradition of a Kingsguard, but they hadn't been an independent kingdom before ruled by an unmarried young Queen, either.
Both Robb and Jon were good fighters in their own right when they accepted the mantle of King. Sansa, on the other hand, couldn't defend herself; was isolated from her family members; had learned from her previous mistakes of placing too much trust in the wrong people; the Northern guards we had seen previously had not exactly covered themselves in glory. Remember the two embarrassments who tried to prevent Arya from entering Winterfell? If that's the best on whom she had to rely, Sansa would have been killed in her sleep!
Whom would she have appointed to protect her? To train them, even? Would she have started a new Queensguard tradition for the North? Sansa has the courtly and political instincts of a Southern ruler with the heart of a Northerner.
Brienne would have enjoyed following in the footsteps of her ancestor, Ser Duncan the Tall. I just found the show's last scenes corny and not believable.
Yes, a considerable bit of the final season was an embarrassment. No argument there. As for training a new generation of northern warriors, I would imagine Jon would have some opinions as to who should be appointed Master of Arms. He'd have fought with those Stark soldiers who survived. As for Sansa, I think she was considerably embittered by her experience in Southron courts. I question whether she would introduce their traditions. She knew from her own experience being beaten by Joffrey's Kingsguard that all the knightly vows were wind.
In Feast for Crows she ponders kids once or twice and thinks she might enjoy them, but decides (at least for the moment) the life of the soldier is where she belongs.
I do think if Renly had asked she would have happily accepted. But it’s overwhelmingly obvious that most men did not give her the same respect and dignity that Renly did.
They did have a happy ending. But then Jaime left.
Damn Jamie and Brienne weren't playing around Four already?
2 pregnancies with twins
Oh no, no more twincest… we have had enough
Jaime getting to have a happy ending after all of the misery, pain, bloodshed, and death caused partially by his actions?
Yeah......no.
Imagine if she gives birth to a giant Lannister, would look funny next to uncle Tyrion.
Three with Cersei. And now four with Brienne. Jaime sure does love to procreate.
No idea, but i do have this great sword.
Story time: Brienne is pregnant with a Lannister! Wouldn’t that make a great sequel …
Yep that’s my cannon for their story
I'm speaking about the show here:
I mean... That is literally something they could have done. Not easily, but we have scenes of them literally looking at Sansa in king's landing. Not in any immediate danger or anything.
And with the red wedding having already happened, birenne's "get her somewhere safe" objective could well mean somewhere she and Jaime would have the final word on things, as opposed to Tywin.
Jaime gives Tywin his word to marry a woman who isn't cersei before he sends Bryenne after Sansa.
So while I doubt they would have had the time to have children for the first few years... If Jaime takes Tywin's offer earlier and returns to Casterly rock, he may negotiate to take Sansa and Tyrion with him, instead of having to negotiate for Tyrion's life.
.
And before someone says Bryenne doesn't have the political acumen for this... Sure. But Jaime does.
I’m not sure I understand the image… why would Jaime be asking about Sansa?
Don’t get me going on what should’ve been