George R.R. Martin reunited with Sibel Kekilli, who portrayed Shae, ahead of the 'A KNIGHT OF THE SEVEN KINGDOMS' fan event happening in Germany.
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  • 1 points RainbowPenguin1000

    Thread locked for new comments because a bunch of you don’t know how to have respectful conversations.

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  • 769 points JackCrafty

    Anyone remember the time before the show dropped when he posted a hilarious gooner tweet about watching the interview tapes for Shae?

    There was some seriously insane comedic gold being dropped by GRRM and the producers in the run up to season 1. All timer quotes that have lived rent free in my head for nearly 15 years or so.

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    314 points Bran_the_Builder

    I do remember reading his blog around S3-4 and he was regularly gushing about what an amazing actress she was, and what an all time performance she was giving on the show. That level of praise from George when the performance she was delivering was fine at best was quite something... I also remember him nominating her for the ice bucket challenge and thinking to myself "I can't imagine why he'd want to see her do that..."

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    16 points WindAbsolute

    Oh shiiiiiiit

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    20 points apathetic_revolution

    You can't have possibly just learned this, can you?

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    5 points Double_Pea_5812

    I mean...I did

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    44 points schadkehnfreude

    gushing

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    202 points schadkehnfreude

    My guy - I was active on a hater forum back than called "Finish the Book George" and we were all in stiches about that gooner post.

    psst, u/scorpiknox get in here LOL

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    29 points skmanabird

    Kehnonymous? I was sephen/Lori Petty!

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    42 points schadkehnfreude

    Yes that's me - I just fell to my knees in a Old Town flea market

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    14 points skmanabird

    I'm gonna need more chips for this. PHIPPS! FETCH THE RANCH DIP STRETCHER!

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    11 points schadkehnfreude

    Mood: hungry

    (for Myrish poon, obvs)

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    34 points Humpers92

    Does anyone have a link to the tweet? This is the first I’ve ever heard about it!

    EDIT: No worries just saw it in another post! ROFL that’s made my day :D

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    18 points Waltonruler5

    You wanna pass on that link?

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    63 points FangedSloth

    https://www.reddit.com/r/HouseOfTheDragon/comments/zn5re1/these_are_the_unhinged_casting_updates_i_need_for/

    I am guessing this is it

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    27 points Filibust

    We should all know less about each other

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    3 points Ummmgummy

    Share the wealth!

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    1 points DaiquiriLevi

    Link it please!

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    35 points landon912

    Even the video with him and Shae is beyond weird. Old man goons on 25 year old for 45 minutes

    https://youtu.be/pNDugbZ6w5s?si=7-TclDpMK-vYOqah

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    53 points Alwaysragestillplay

    The gooning is pretty cringe in general but I find Americans to be really weird with age gaps. Once she's 25 I'm pretty sure it doesn't matter who goons on her or who she goons on, that is well into fully informed adult territory. People in George's age range just ain't that hot on the whole. 

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  • 130 points AfterPaleontologist2

    Some random video came up on my YouTube feed of them spending the night in New Mexico. She went to his house, then for drinks and Mexican food, more drinks, movie theater, and more drinks lol. George has also said something along the lines that amongst the character Shae would be his choice to have dinner with "for obvious reasons". Dude definitely has some feelings for her lol

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    39 points Adventurous-Writing1

    They were eating and drinking so much and it definitely seemed like he had a crush on her

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  • 1040 points ImperialSupplies

    How the fuck she look 10 years younger

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    315 points asscrackbanditz

    The other there was a post about Ros. She became even prettier. Like wtf.

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    145 points Ironsam811

    Well she got out of an abusive relationship lol, that must’ve been freeing

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    14 points BeardPhile

    Sauce?

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    39 points apathetic_revolution

    Having the financial freedom to get out of the porn industry de-aged her.

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    21 points obzerva

    Praise the Lord of Light! For the night is dark and full of terrors.

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    35 points song_of_storms5460

    I jumped to the comment section to say the same thing!!! How in the hell!!!?

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    31 points Troggles

    She has a great facial moisturizing routine.

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    7 points IIIlllIIIlllIlI

    Down boy! Bad horndog!

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    1 points ItsKaZing

    Yeah i must be blind or something because I just dont see it. Not saying they arent pretty but their younger self was 100% prettier. Beauty is of course subjective tho

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    -6 points Aware_Royal_8777

    To me she looks noticeably older on this picture compared to their last meeting or in the show(which is perfectly normal, we age). She got visible lines under her eyes and deeper nasolabial folds. Her face lost volume.

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    -12 points Weekly_Host_2754

    Plastic surgery and filters? It's no secret that the vast majority of celebrities do this.

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    9 points ImperialSupplies

    I think its just the quality of picture. On my phone her skin looks perfectly smooth but if I zoom in you can see the bags on her eyes. Her skin isnt actually that perfectly smooth its just blended because of the lighting so she looks way WAY younger.

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    154 points poub06

    Yeah.. And he casted the one who was a former adult movie actress.

    And doesn't he see himself as Tyrion?

    Ho well..

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    55 points leancabbage

    Actually the self insert is Samwell Tarly (and the fat pink mast)

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    11 points Big_Intern5558

    That kinda makes sense given that she was going to be nude and have sex scenes albeit without penetration

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    8 points ZuAusHierDa

    She was already a established actor in many award winning movies when this casting happens.

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    49 points DarthEros

    Wait, this is actually real.

    Mental.

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    14 points Numerous-Process2981

    Yeah… You’re not supposed to SAY it

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    69 points 4tunabrix

    wtf

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    16 points dman722

    horny

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    28 points Onionbot3000

    Yeah, echoing this. WTF.

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    12 points Geektime1987

    I want to point out while I don't have an issue with this even if it's kind of a creepy joke if the GOT showrunners ever made a comment about like this about audition tapes there would he a dozen articles and social media would be calling for their heads on spikes screaming sexism.

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    1 points Blenderx06

    I mean yes if your actual boss posted something like that they should get in trouble, doesn't matter what the job is.

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  • 154 points AnalyserarN

    The writers block is in my balls, I promise!

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    6 points AutomaticAd9670

    😂

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  • 649 points Carrer_destroyer

    He does everything except writing a book 😔

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    204 points Narren_C

    I just wish he'd admit it.

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    117 points EfficiencySmall4951

    I watched a certain interview with him, some years ago though so don't ask which one, he did admit he gets sidetracked and lazy at times. I kind of understand, he's only human. There was also this one interview with Stephen King where he asks him how he manages to write books so fast lmao. Tells you enough. I don't hold it against him, it's his life in the end

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    98 points MrFunktasticc

    I mean there is the normal laziness, inspiration and writers block most people deal with. Then there is over a decade to finish a book that is supposedly 80% there.

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    63 points itsnoturday

    King still has an insane work speed without the drugs. He still releases a new book yearly.

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    43 points ATLien325

    I’m a huge King fan but somebody said his books are like Big Macs. Good and consistent, while when I read a ASoIaF book it feels like filet. But no point in a filet if it never hits your plate

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    33 points seambizzle1

    Yeah but his books are no where near in depth or as big as the world GRRM created in ASOIAF

    Apples and oranges

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    6 points AsocialFreak

    True. I feel like if it was any story but three-thousand-storylines-epos which is TWOW, GRRM would have finished it earlier.

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    11 points goatbiryani48

    Definitely apples and oranges, but you clearly don't have an understanding of King's body of work if you don't think he's written a world with as much "depth" or "as big".

    The Dark Tower series lays out the framework for a massive world/history/reality and there's a huge chunk of "lore"-type content in there. Then you throw in various tie-in novels set in that same reality and you've got something that, at minimum, has the same cachet as ASOIAF.

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    1 points Filibust

    King has that Virgo work ethic unlike George

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    20 points lollypop44445

    I think he is just over exaggerated. He might be bored from doing one thing his entire life. And then there are soo many plot lines opened that he has to keep track of. Plus he isnt young anymore, he have gained alot of wealth post tv shows which he now wants to enjoy. Earlier, the books were his lifeline, now he can survive without the books. They can make a show about aegons conquest to roberts rebellion and he earns millions. Or maybe direct/ write about old valyria days. He can ignore the publishers now as he isnt bound by their timeline anymore. He is free to do whatever he wants like bran.

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    13 points Ok_Tradition_3382

    He’s overrated in general. He developed a great world, and he wrote some very intriguing characters. That said, it’s the equivalent of being great at stick handling but having a lousy shot. “No finish” as we say in hockey.

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    7 points exodusofficer

    That chat between GRRM and Stephen King is amazing! They're on stage in nice chairs, I know the exact event. One of the better author chats I've seen.

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    15 points winkingchef

    Was Stephen Kings answer “in the 80’s? Lots and lots of cocaine”. That’s the only way I could see how he did that huge body of work

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    20 points Prophet_Of_Helix

    Obviously King did a fuck ton of cocaine, but he just loves writing. Up until last year he was putting out at least 2 works a year.

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    5 points XaviKat

    Iirc he answered something to the lines of like he just writes because its his job.

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    6 points Top_Seaweed7189

    Nah. It was basically that he just forces himself to write at least something.

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    3 points tahomadesperado

    Or read, I believe it was 8 hours a day just like it’s a 9-5 job he writes and if he doesn’t know what to write he reads

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    2 points balthazar_edison

    “At times” = “At all times”

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    1 points EfficiencySmall4951

    Eh we can't be that rough with him. He's the kind of man that gets bored with the same thing from what I've seen. He said he likes writing short stories, he likes going into sci-fi besides fantasy, he likes working on other projects. Like he did writing for Elden Ring.

    As a ASOIAF fan it is indeed frustrating that we'll probably never get closure with the story, at least I personally have no hope that we will, but we also can't just tell the man what to do with his time, it is what it is

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    3 points balthazar_edison

    He hasn’t written anything by himself in 8 years.

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    2 points KorunaCorgi

    It is lame for the fans for sure. We also only have one live to live and if George doesn't enjoy writing the books then he shouldn't feel like he has to. Both can be true.

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    1 points Khanluka

    He is totally able to write books fast.

    If he just decide to write dunk and egg

    Or a fire and blood VOL 2 he be done with in 2 years .

    Winds is just a very diffuclty book if he wants to finish the series in spring.

    Imo he need a extra book to finish it.

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    0 points krill_ep

    He's also been writing the same story for the last almost 31 years. I wouldn't blame him for being completely burned out writing wise at this point.

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    8 points LC-Squared

    I would presume he has some type of agreement with his publisher to never say never. Otherwise, they’d likely see an even more significant drop in sales on the finished books.

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    16 points SmellDesperate6373

    You do not admit an ongoing scam lol

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    0 points Iorith

    What's the scam? Did you pre pay for a book you didn't get?

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    4 points Eshestun

    GRRM’s publisher Bantam Spectra probably did, tbh.

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    0 points Iorith

    If they felt that way, I'm sure they would have done something about it by now. Since they haven't, I'd assume he's in the clear

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    -9 points br3wnor

    What’s the scam exactly? He created the world, he’s working on the book and probably will die before it’s finished but he’s rich as fuck so I don’t think he really cares. He doesn’t owe the fans anything more than he’s given them, just let the man live

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    6 points Narren_C

    Does he owe us anything in the legal sense? No, of course not.

    But if I were him, and I wrote a series that had so much popularity that I became wealthy beyond my dreams, I would certainly feel like I owe those fans who made that possible. Do you think ASOIAF would be nearly as popular as it is if everyone knew from the beginning that he would get bored of writing it and never finish? Do you think HBO would have taken a chance on him?

    Obviously that wasn't his intention at the time, but regardless he owes all of his wealth and prestige to the people that gave it to him....his fans. And if I were him, I would feel that I owe it to those fans to finish the story that they invested in.

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    1 points LeSeanMcoy

    I guess I'm just being pedantic because while I agree with everything you said... I just literally don't get the word "scam" being used. Scam to me implies: "haha I tricked those fools and will keep tricking them! [to make a ton of money!!]"

    I think it's fair to say he's letting people down, but there's just no way he is trying to "scam" people. He wants the books done I bet more than anybody.

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    1 points Narren_C

    I agree, there's no "scam" here.

    Maybe they're implying that interest in upcoming shows and whatnot might drop off if he admitted he wasn't going to finish the main series.

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    4 points TheOliveYeti

    What would that even change? Anyone still holding out hope is doing it to themself at this point

    move on

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    3 points Narren_C

    Nothing, really, I'd just like to hear it. I don't expect to see either book, but it's mildly annoying that it's still technically possible. I'd rather he just say it isn't happening.

    I'm probably making this sound more dramatic than it is. It's not exactly keeping me up at night or anything.

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    1 points KorunaCorgi

    Why? 

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    8 points Mahmud-kun

    He writes a lot tbh. Just not the book we would like him to write

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    16 points Tyrell-

    There’s a author who I had on a panel I hosted who regularly gets lunch with George, and they said he’s never going to finish the series. They’ve been friends for decades. They told me this like 5-6 years ago, so that killed any of my desire for this series.

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    7 points Carrer_destroyer

    He will never complete the book because the show has already been completed. If the books are written, the hype will be over, and the amount of money he is making right now will decrease. He has everything to enjoy his old life. Maybe after he dies, we will get closure, and someone will write the book with help from his notes.

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    1 points RyuNoKami

    I fundamentally disagree with this because there is supposed to be 2 more books not 1. If it's supposed to be the last book, I can sort of understand but the penultimate book will not complete the series.

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    2 points ItsMrNoSmile

    "Book? What book?"

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    2 points Odd_Distribution7852

    Release Winds of Winter

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    4 points sleepy_spermwhale

    He did after that unfortunate dinner.

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    1 points Illustrious_Load_728

    Take your upvote and leave

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    1 points vito0117

    My theory is it's exactly like s7&8 and he's waiting for death to release the books so he won't have to deal with the back lash

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    1 points Carrer_destroyer

    I also think the same, he may have written the books, but due to the fear of backlash and after that not getting any work, he is delaying the release and will release it at his last time or after his death.

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    1 points Swimming-Compote-168

    5300 days.

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    1 points WOKLACE134

    Accept it and move on sadly.... Btw my head canon is I get isekaid and manage to fix Cersei 🥰

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    -8 points pandulfi

    You fucking write it

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    5 points Carrer_destroyer

    Did I create the GOT universe...

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    -7 points cheezeebred

    Does someone literally need to complain about this in every thread? Someone posts a nice warm moment of George and hanging out with an old friend and you people STILL find a reason to hate on him. You're so selfish you cant even allow for yourself to be happy for this man for ONE SECOND. If it were up to most of the people in this sub, George shouldn't be allowed to do anything but write. This whole book delay is bringing the worst out of people. No wonder George is depressed.

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  • 176 points Various-Abroad8311

    Shae the funny whore

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    44 points Crow_Mauler_666

    whor 💀

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    4 points obamnamamna

    I for one am a big admirer of her accomplishments in dentistry

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    1 points Less-Explanation160

    My lion

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  • 63 points Echo__227

    I've dated women for months who would not post me on Instagram with this much affection

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    55 points cardiffman100

    Did... did they know you were dating them?

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  • 23 points Zaptryx

    I was on the Tram and thought man that guy looks just like George R.R. Martin. Fuck me dude it was him.

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  • 70 points the-National-Razor

    It's been 15 years now.... I just checked. Dance was 2011. What do you even say

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    48 points Acceptable-Goat2109

    It took 15 years to write the first five books and it will take over 15 to write the sixth... Such a depressing thought

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    10 points the-National-Razor

    The only thing I can think of in my life like this is there a piece of door trim on the basement door that was unpainted when I moved into my house in 2017 and I have never painted it.

    Edit: honestly ask yourself, is there something I have the ability and motivation (pride or financial) to do and have not completed.

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    7 points SaltySwan

    Hey, that’s the same year Skyrim came out and we still haven’t seen the sequel to that either 😑…..

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    3 points nishiki_11

    Wikipedia says 'A Dance with Dragons' was published July 12, 2011. So GRRM has some time )

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    1 points Numerous-Process2981

    Shoulda given up on it a decade ago like me. That book ain’t coming.

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  • 69 points Emperor_of_All

    So this is where whores go. Someone phone up Tyrion..

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    18 points Altruistic-Mine-1848

    Always had my money on Berlin.

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    6 points puaka

    What is my perfect crime? I break into Tiffany's at midnight. Do I go for the vault? No, I go for the chandelier. It's priceless. As I'm taking it down, a woman catches me. She tells me to stop. It's her father's business. She's Tiffany. I say no. We make love all night. In the morning, the cops come and I escape in one of their uniforms. I tell her to meet me in Mexico, but I go to Canada. I don't trust her. Besides, I like the cold. Thirty years later, I get a postcard. I have a son and he's the chief of police. This is where the story gets interesting. I tell Tiffany to meet me in Paris by the Trocadero. She's been waiting for me all these years. She's never taken another lover. I don't care. I don't show up. I go to Berlin. That's where I stashed the chandelier

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    -1 points unofficialSperm

    Just Germany in general

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  • 10 points Even_Speech570

    I feel like she looks so much better IRL than she did on the show.

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  • 119 points mission_to_mors

    fun fact for those who dont know: Sibel Kekilli was the first turkish/german adult movie star....make of that what you want

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    73 points Baratheoncook250

    Sibel has a Tribeca Film Festival award, so she does have acting skills.

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    6 points robininscarf

    She worked with Dollman too.

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    4 points mission_to_mors

    Wasnt commenting her acting skills, she does hold her weight for Sure actingwise....

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    3 points disgruntledarmadillo

    She was just about the weakest link in GOT

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    28 points Echo__227

    I thought she was charming in her scenes

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    -8 points Vinylove

    That was not on her acting though.

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    16 points BillyPennypockets

    Are we deadass right now? It may be partly because of an insanely talented main cast as a whole, but her perfomance was probably the worst.

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    26 points Vinylove

    She was in almost all of her scenes with immensely talented actors like Peter Dinklage or Charles Dance ...

    This can be a bit jarring of course, but, she is - by far - not the worst actress in GOT?!?

    I know Dorne is almost cheating, but every single actor there did an immeasurably worse job than Kekilli imho.

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    18 points Illustrious_Load_728

    I'll throw in a wildcard - Sophie Turner. God she's bland in *everything* I ever saw her act in.

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    5 points puaka

    Ugh, yes.

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    8 points BillyPennypockets

    Yeah few ones in Dorne were comically bad tbf

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    4 points orcaspirit71171

    Crazy considering the actress who played Obara Sand (Keisha Castle-Hughes) delivered one of the finest child acting performances I've seen. See "Whale Rider."

    The performances were bad, but I think the direction is also partly to blame.

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    1 points AfterPaleontologist2

    English is not her native language either though

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    0 points BillyPennypockets

    I don’t think that changes the fact at all. She was in a foreign role, so it even made sense for her to have an accent. It’s just my opinion, but I just think her acting was subpar.

    Javier Bardem wasn’t fluent in English while filming No Country for Old Men but it still went pretty well for him.

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    3 points AfterPaleontologist2

    Her having an accent has nothing to do with it. The fact is someone who didn't grow up speaking a language and then acting in a role that requires that language IS going to affect the performance. That's just common sense and shouldn't require any debate.

    Javier Bardem barely spoke in that film and he's also an Oscar winning actor. Is that really the comparison you want to use to demonstrate your point?

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    9 points CaucusInferredBulk

    The first? Almost surely not.

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    42 points Ok-Temporary-8243

    Are we really supposed to be surprised that most of the women who get buck naked and do sex scenes in the show are in the sex industry? The actress who played Ross is a burlesque dancer 

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    53 points marvelman19

    A burlesque dancer is a little different from a full on porn actor

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    9 points mission_to_mors

    No you are not, that is not what fun fact means 🤷.....it was kind of a big Deal in Germany at the time, she got death threats from the turkish Community iirc

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    8 points AaronInside

    Shes the first turkish porn star in a porn film industry

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    13 points Mesmerhypnotise

    She also starred in Head-On, a fantastic film. It´s quite sad that she is always degraded to her porn past.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Head-On_(film))

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    -2 points mission_to_mors

    You get it ✌️

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    3 points nahheyyeahokay

    She looks great. Didn't know she had a tribal tramp stamp or such a nice ass. I prefer the older version myself.

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    2 points mission_to_mors

    Never saw her original Work to be honest ....

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    2 points wimpymist

    She almost looks like a different human in those videos, not worth

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    -5 points aybsavestheworld

    Doesn’t she absolutely reject/deny her Turkish identity?

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    2 points mission_to_mors

    What the Shit?

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  • 28 points ZapThis

    He happens to be a big fan of her filmography

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    He’ll do everything except finish the series that made him so wealthy and famous

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  • 5 points sithyoda

    Anything but finishing the book lmao

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  • 8 points 63KK0

    Finish the book before I piss meself

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  • 16 points AsHiSh_PaNdIt06

    And he sacrifices....."THE BOOK"

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    7 points anyjokewilldo

    He can't figure out how to resolve the Chessos plot

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  • 4 points johnnyspiral

    mfer looks like a waxwork

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    3 points Yogi_DMT

    lol GRRM probably gets more than enough female attention

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  • 6 points Unhappy-Plastic2017

    Man i truly hated that character. In that sense I guess she did a good job acting just like joffrey did.

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  • 3 points berball

    I wonder how much his head weighs?

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  • 5 points Practical_Smell_4244

    Ah maybe this hooor can convince him to continue the books

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  • 6 points cardiffman100

    Dammit Sibel, how's the man supposed to write Winds if he's still gooning over you like he did in your audition?

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  • 4 points landon912

    45 minutes of old man George gooning on Shae: https://youtu.be/pNDugbZ6w5s?si=7-TclDpMK-vYOqah

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  • 2 points BlindDriverActivist

    Finish the books

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  • 2 points Cornucopia2020

    From the looks of it, she may have given him a thank you gift after this meet.

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  • 2 points DPonRed

    She is a funny whore

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  • 3 points DeficitOfPatience

    Why is that guy in the background about to fucking destroy that plant pot?

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    0 points TempleFugit

    🤣

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  • 3 points Max_Winters02

    Fun fact I didn’t know she used to do porn till I was today’s year old.

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  • 3 points LouisTheWhatever

    Hasn’t lost his horny touch

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  • 3 points Graveyard_Zombie

    Has he tried her fish pie?

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    10 points pipian

    Oysters, clams and cockles!!!

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  • 2 points XapanTheMan

    Long may he live.

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  • 2 points bharani-1812

    It's a shame, nobody here said "Martin, My lion"

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  • 2 points nahheyyeahokay

    Honestly the shows ending was so botched so long ago that it's left the public consciousness. When he does die, nobody talented or high profile is going to take up the task of finishing the books.

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  • 1 points Jlchevz

    My giant of Martin

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  • 1 points Bartleby9

    Im Borchardt natürlich

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  • 1 points Ollidor

    Of course he’s at an event in Germany

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  • 1 points spartan969

    Shay the fanny whoar

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  • 1 points _Yersinia-pestis_

    Finish the fucking book.

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  • 1 points Nonsense_Poster

    Did he lose weight!?

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  • 1 points Mahaloth

    George looks great. Hope he is healthy.

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  • -4 points chadmummerford

    did he hit?

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  • 0 points WealthQueasy2233

    getting lots of work done I see

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