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who knows, we don’t have an objective telling of how skilled he truly was. i’m sure he was good, but if you think he was actually “the warrior himself” than you’re smoking crack.
So I would think Kings Landing would have both the best crack and cocaine, you have the most income disparity there and the law doesn’t seem like they would concern themselves with production or distribution, hell they’d probably help
Highgarden has the obvious opioid issue because they are growing the poppy that supplies the kingdom
The north has some sweet sweet Humboldt quality green with the children of the forest and glass gardens for wintertime growing
The Iron islands and The Rock have a supplement of all 3 being port towns
Likely one of the top fighters, especially if he has Blackfyre in hand. Having a Valyrian Steel sword sort've puts you above most people, especially if you're already very skilled with a sword. Arthur Dayne wielding Dawn is the greatest fighter Westeros has ever known, Barristan right behind him and if Dayne doesn't have Dawn it goes either way. So I don't think he beats those two. Still, one of the top fighters for certain.
I ended a sentence about Valyrian steel and then started a new sentence addressing Arthur Daynes over all prowess and how his own special sword made him all the better, much like having Blackfyre made Daemon better.
And since this is a Game of Thrones subreddit and not about the book series, I’m sorry to tell everyone that Dawn is overwhelmingly likely to be Valaryan Steel. There is no references at all to Dawn being from a meteorite.
The source material belongs to the books. The show is different and doesn’t have a reason to introduce a new type of sword for one scene of it being in use.
I don’t think there’s any question he’s a top tier fighter. He was considered the best fighter in the family over other renown warriors like Breakspear, Maekar, Bittersteel and Bloodraven and proved it by defeating a member of the KG who was from a family known for pumping out badasses.
Eh, the issue is we don't have any real feats for him besides what people said about him. Like his one feat of defeating Gwayne Corbray is great and all, but we know nothing about Gwayne besides his family being renowned fighters but we can't feat someone just because of their family. His other notable feat is him LOSING in a tournament against Baelor which doesn't bode well for him.
I'm not doubting he was an excellent swordsman, it's just hard to say how good he was, especially if you're trying to compare him to the likes of Jamie, Arthur Dayne or Selmy.
Beating a member of the KG on its own is quite a feat. Prior to Robert’s iteration being on the KG almost always meant you were one of the best fighters in the realm. Losing a joust also does nothing to diminish his standing as a melee fighter imo as Jaime is also noted to have lost several jousts, Criston Cole too. The two were also said to duel for almost an hour which says a lot about their physical capabilities.
Wielding a Valyrian steel sword on its own is also a flex. Jon Snow notes how difficult it is to do so and has to train every day for it.
I thought Jon struggled with longclaw because it was larger than the swords he trained with, not because it's Valyrian steel? Valyrian steel is lighter than regular steel which should mean it's easier to use, not harder, but i could be wrong.
Managed to find it, Jon notes that the blade is longer than what he is used to but that's not why he struggles, he struggles because his right hand was injured in the fight with the wight so he has to use his left hand. So in a way we were both wrong.
"Yes. Donal was the last." Noye's sword was sunk deep in the giant's throat, halfway to the hilt. The armorer had always seemed such a big man to Jon, but locked in the giant's massive arms he looked almost like a child. "The giant crushed his spine. I don't know who died first."
I suspect it would be pretty close between Dsemon and Dayne or Daemon and Selmy. That is in one to one combat. Not sure about Gregor, but Daemon could beat Jon, Ned, Jaime and Sandor, Prince Oberyn's use of speed, skill and poisoned weapons may have proved tricky for Daemon. But in battles Daemon does not fare well and that is where Selmy excels, especially when it comes to survival. Daemon Blackfrye lost the Battle of Redgrass Field to his half sibling Brynden Rivers (bloodraven aka the three eyed raven), who was responsible for putting down the Blackfrye Rebellions.
He’d probably be one of the three men in the Seven Kingdoms that Jaime thinks have a chance at beating him. I’d say he beats everyone you listed besides Jaime, the Cleganes (maybe Sandor he beats), Dayne, and Barristan.
I’d imagine he’d have a pretty decent chance at getting the throne during the War of the 5 (now 6?) Kings. If we assume it’s just him isekai’d and not anyone else from his era, he’d marry Margaery and try to take Kings Landing shortly after Renly’s death. If the Reach gives him their full strength he’d be able to capture the city and defeat Stannis. Assuming Bloodraven doesn’t warg a random archer and snipe him from his cave that is.
He wouldn’t leave Robb to be King in the North though. I don’t know if he’d be able to capture the North due to weather but even if he is l able to defeat Robb in the Riverlands, taking the North then the Iron Islands from the Ironborn is probably beyond him.
If he does manage to take all of Westeros,he gets nuked by Daenerys when she comes though. Unless he marries her and is allowed to take two wives since he’s basically the conqueror come again at that point. That’s the good ending for Daemon Blackfyre.
I’m a Daemon Blackfyre glazer so I may be biased though
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who knows, we don’t have an objective telling of how skilled he truly was. i’m sure he was good, but if you think he was actually “the warrior himself” than you’re smoking crack.
Ser Eustice Osgrey would have words with you.
That can be said about every warrior in the entire story .
But who's got the best crack, Westeros or Essos?
So I would think Kings Landing would have both the best crack and cocaine, you have the most income disparity there and the law doesn’t seem like they would concern themselves with production or distribution, hell they’d probably help
Highgarden has the obvious opioid issue because they are growing the poppy that supplies the kingdom
The north has some sweet sweet Humboldt quality green with the children of the forest and glass gardens for wintertime growing
The Iron islands and The Rock have a supplement of all 3 being port towns
Likely one of the top fighters, especially if he has Blackfyre in hand. Having a Valyrian Steel sword sort've puts you above most people, especially if you're already very skilled with a sword. Arthur Dayne wielding Dawn is the greatest fighter Westeros has ever known, Barristan right behind him and if Dayne doesn't have Dawn it goes either way. So I don't think he beats those two. Still, one of the top fighters for certain.
Dawn isn’t Valyrian steel! Forged from a meteor that crashed near the family castle (named Starfall for this reason) Dawn is an outlier
Never said it was. It’s in the same category of magical swords that make you excellent, but I’m aware it’s a meteorite blade.
You’re right! You didn’t imply that at all, just didn’t clarify. I was being a stickler for details. All is well!
You definitely implied it was Valyrian steel brother. Own up to your mistakes
I ended a sentence about Valyrian steel and then started a new sentence addressing Arthur Daynes over all prowess and how his own special sword made him all the better, much like having Blackfyre made Daemon better.
Apparently these people can’t read. I didn’t get the impression you implied or said Dawn is Valyrian steel at all
And since this is a Game of Thrones subreddit and not about the book series, I’m sorry to tell everyone that Dawn is overwhelmingly likely to be Valaryan Steel. There is no references at all to Dawn being from a meteorite.
In other words: “the source material is wrong”
The source material belongs to the books. The show is different and doesn’t have a reason to introduce a new type of sword for one scene of it being in use.
Dawn isn’t Valyrian steel in the show or the books. To say it is Valyrian steel is just wrong regardless of the media you’re talking about
In the show he didn’t even have it. Wielded two normal swords.
Such a dumb take. No.
Second account huh. I noticed you commented on his other stuff.
Probably because I comment on a lot of stuff in this sub Reddit. You’re being unreal LOL.
Guy is nuts. Can’t accept that he was wrong so he has to come up with outlandish stuff to feel better about it
Just lets me know I’m up too late and I shouldn’t be on reddit this time of night.
Forgot to change accounts, oops.
Lol okay buddy
What are you on about? I’m another Reddit user that can actually read. Not that dude’s burner account 😂
Lol you got the accounts mixed up
you absolutely implied it was valyrian steel
Yeah. Exactly you implied it was valyrian. That's what you just described.
I don’t think there’s any question he’s a top tier fighter. He was considered the best fighter in the family over other renown warriors like Breakspear, Maekar, Bittersteel and Bloodraven and proved it by defeating a member of the KG who was from a family known for pumping out badasses.
Eh, the issue is we don't have any real feats for him besides what people said about him. Like his one feat of defeating Gwayne Corbray is great and all, but we know nothing about Gwayne besides his family being renowned fighters but we can't feat someone just because of their family. His other notable feat is him LOSING in a tournament against Baelor which doesn't bode well for him.
I'm not doubting he was an excellent swordsman, it's just hard to say how good he was, especially if you're trying to compare him to the likes of Jamie, Arthur Dayne or Selmy.
Beating a member of the KG on its own is quite a feat. Prior to Robert’s iteration being on the KG almost always meant you were one of the best fighters in the realm. Losing a joust also does nothing to diminish his standing as a melee fighter imo as Jaime is also noted to have lost several jousts, Criston Cole too. The two were also said to duel for almost an hour which says a lot about their physical capabilities.
Wielding a Valyrian steel sword on its own is also a flex. Jon Snow notes how difficult it is to do so and has to train every day for it.
I thought Jon struggled with longclaw because it was larger than the swords he trained with, not because it's Valyrian steel? Valyrian steel is lighter than regular steel which should mean it's easier to use, not harder, but i could be wrong.
I’m trying to find the exact quote to double check now lol got me questioning it
Managed to find it, Jon notes that the blade is longer than what he is used to but that's not why he struggles, he struggles because his right hand was injured in the fight with the wight so he has to use his left hand. So in a way we were both wrong.
I don’t believe that’s the same quote I’m thinking of. But I also can’t find the one I am thinking of so could just be me misremembering 🤷 lol
You think people would do that? Just go in the town square and tell lies? (About their king being a super mega badass)
Fuck 'em, with Donal Noye we roll.
WATCH OUT WATCH OUT WATCH OUT, IT'S BOBBY B WITH THE STEEL CHAIR
There would just be a second white-haired twink whose chest would get caved in by Bobby B. He definitely had one more Targ in him that day.
These post are funny as if he some anime character lol
Is dat Linda de Mol?
I suspect it would be pretty close between Dsemon and Dayne or Daemon and Selmy. That is in one to one combat. Not sure about Gregor, but Daemon could beat Jon, Ned, Jaime and Sandor, Prince Oberyn's use of speed, skill and poisoned weapons may have proved tricky for Daemon. But in battles Daemon does not fare well and that is where Selmy excels, especially when it comes to survival. Daemon Blackfrye lost the Battle of Redgrass Field to his half sibling Brynden Rivers (bloodraven aka the three eyed raven), who was responsible for putting down the Blackfrye Rebellions.
He’d probably be one of the three men in the Seven Kingdoms that Jaime thinks have a chance at beating him. I’d say he beats everyone you listed besides Jaime, the Cleganes (maybe Sandor he beats), Dayne, and Barristan.
I’d imagine he’d have a pretty decent chance at getting the throne during the War of the 5 (now 6?) Kings. If we assume it’s just him isekai’d and not anyone else from his era, he’d marry Margaery and try to take Kings Landing shortly after Renly’s death. If the Reach gives him their full strength he’d be able to capture the city and defeat Stannis. Assuming Bloodraven doesn’t warg a random archer and snipe him from his cave that is.
He wouldn’t leave Robb to be King in the North though. I don’t know if he’d be able to capture the North due to weather but even if he is l able to defeat Robb in the Riverlands, taking the North then the Iron Islands from the Ironborn is probably beyond him.
If he does manage to take all of Westeros,he gets nuked by Daenerys when she comes though. Unless he marries her and is allowed to take two wives since he’s basically the conqueror come again at that point. That’s the good ending for Daemon Blackfyre.
I’m a Daemon Blackfyre glazer so I may be biased though
3rd best 1 on 1. Not great in battle.