if this is the new low for Timmy Tencent, its going lower than the deepest point of the ocean. i cant wait for the cancellation arc against Timmy Tencent and Epig, itll be delicious karma
I hate that hes right, the solution isn't banning twitter. its prosecuting elon and co for refusing to moderate this behavior, and prosecuting people who distribute these images.
Might be first time where Timmy's being reasonable, if you could read with comprehension you'd understand he's talking about political censorship which X has been guilty of before years before Muskrat ran the platform and before some snarky redditor tries to insinuate that I'm defending the way some degens have been using grok AI I am not.
Before Elon it at least had a consistent set of rules and guidelines that everybody was required to follow. Conservatives whined about censorship because they were the ones most frequently violating those rules.
Now you have to align with all of Elon's political views (which apparently includes being pro-pedophile) and give him money every month if you don't want to be censored.
Musk fulfilled far more censorship requests from authoritarian governments like China and Russia than Twitter ever did. It's "free speech", not "free for me speech".
Here the thing the AI itself isn't the problem, it's the people using AI that is the fucking problem, it's like taking a hammer, and using it for all good reason, but then got FUCK UP people using it for BAD reasons to attack, or kill others, so yeah that kind of where we stand with AI it's fucked overall that some people will use it for fuck up things.
Here example, and he right how AI was used for fuck up things. I won't defend AI because it easily can be used for problems we didn't need, or want happening, and yet this where we come to, and I didn't even go over the fact some AI are providing false, misleading, out-of-date, or wrong information to some, or certain questions. Can google up examples of Chatgpt, or etc that gives bad answers.
But the biggest problem with AI, is companies are using it to cut corners, just so they can rush things, and pocket money. People getting laid off for AI, Devs using AI to make content, or updates, looking at you Microsoft with that AI update had to roll back on, and so on.
No, he isn't. The fact that when confronted with this Musk's response was to bury it behind a paywall proves that there was no misuse. Musk is fully fine with it generating sexually exploitative content.
I 100% agree with the idea that everything should be open and we should only punish transgressions, but I'm guessing that's not what everyone else is reading between the lines because of this sub.
He is, quite literally, defending the creation of child sex abuse material in the linked tweet. It's become a massive problem on Twitter with Grok, and Timmy decided that he was gonna stick his neck out for the pedophiles.
That’s the stupidest fucking comparison I’ve read in years.
Twitter is privately owned and operated. It is not a public service or an important good, it’s nothing more than a social media site. If its owner and operator are unable or unwilling to properly moderate it or even put in place rudimentary blocks for this kind of disgusting content, then it absolutely should be banned until they do.
but what good does banning it do if the people running it still get away with it. prosecute elon and co for refusing to moderate grok, prosecute the people using it to distribute CSAM and revenge porn. and finally transfer twitter to the employees who *weren't* behind this, or its former owner.
It hurts their income. It hurts their reputation. It hurts their outreach and visibility.
"Prosecution" for stuff like this usually ends up being nothing more than a slap on the risk; a token fine of a few million dollars or so that really accomplishes nothing for someone as rich as Musk. Tangible action like banning it can be much more impactful, and also much more immediate. Prosecution could take months or even years to conclude, a ban could be considered and enacted in just a few days.
I'm all for prosecuting those responsible for this, including those who have been using Grok to obtain these images. But right now the best thing to do it so simply ban it until there are sensible limitations and restrictions put in place to prevent Grok from being able to successfully respond to these kind of requests.
if its banned elon and co just move on, and make a new platform. then everyone goes there. and worse the government uses whatever was setup to enact this ban to ban access to other websites. do you really want the US government to choose where people can express themselves? because it wouldn't stop with twitter and a ban certainly wouldn't stop people using "tools" like grok.
It should absolutely be taken offline until they can demonstrate that the system is safe to be used and WON'T generate CP on demand. (Not that Elon is genuinely opposed to that situation.) This shit should never have been allowed to run rampant without regulation.
Should we ban any company until they prove they are inocent? Should we do that with people as well? I remember that being a literal reason every single country in the world sought their independence.
We cannot go back to "provide proof of innocence of accept life in jail"
I get you hate that guy, but it's not his fault, it's like cars exactly. Should we ban them because some people use them to trample others? Does that make sense? Because if this doesn't make sense to you, you're indoctrinated.
Elon has directly monkeyed with Grok's programming multiple times. If it's spitting out CSAM, it is absolutely his fault to some degree. If he wanted to shut it down, he would. (But of course, he doesn't, because he's best friends with the pedophile elites.)
He’s just trying to join his Roblox competitors in being pro pedo I guess
FN might as well become Roblox 2.0 at this point
It basically is
Timmy doesn't have 'new' lows, only yet another lows.
I'll admit, I'm "impressed" by his ability to hit rock bottom and keep drilling.
I think his idea is he’ll pop out the other end
Coming out in support of CSAM is certainly a choice
Well, when you're already against reason and decency what's something like this for a 💩 stain like him?
Timmy Tencents career will never recover from the ripple effect this will have on him and Epig as a whole
I wonder if Tim also brings CSAM on his flash drive wherever he goes like good ol' Randy Pitchford.
I bet Eisberg is excited to have new opinions to copy
who?
we dont talk about that Epig simp
"all are imperfect"
BUDDY not a SINGLE AI COMPANY has had THIS happen FOR THE EXCEPTION OF XITTER.
Don't call it X. It makes Elon Musk think he's important.
I always call it "Xitter", because it sounds like a profanity.
if this is the new low for Timmy Tencent, its going lower than the deepest point of the ocean. i cant wait for the cancellation arc against Timmy Tencent and Epig, itll be delicious karma
Read without going to xitter: https://nitter.net/i/status/2009732745140871463
Have to say it, if anyone asked me to show them a pic of an atypical pdf file, Timmy has the look.
Or he's not, but he's still a prick.
Him and Randy always gave me that vibe. Either that or dudes that would totally roofie someone at a party.
A lot of people don’t realize that Sweeney is like the video game version of Elon Musk. He’s incredibly untrustworthy
Not surprising from a Musk simp.
On one hand, he's not exactly wrong. On the other hand, a broken clock is right twice a day, and both sweeny and X are bad, so.
I hate that hes right, the solution isn't banning twitter. its prosecuting elon and co for refusing to moderate this behavior, and prosecuting people who distribute these images.
Might be first time where Timmy's being reasonable, if you could read with comprehension you'd understand he's talking about political censorship which X has been guilty of before years before Muskrat ran the platform and before some snarky redditor tries to insinuate that I'm defending the way some degens have been using grok AI I am not.
What Elon has done to Twitter is not save it from political censorship. It is now a more political weapon than it was before.
Before Elon it at least had a consistent set of rules and guidelines that everybody was required to follow. Conservatives whined about censorship because they were the ones most frequently violating those rules.
Now you have to align with all of Elon's political views (which apparently includes being pro-pedophile) and give him money every month if you don't want to be censored.
Musk fulfilled far more censorship requests from authoritarian governments like China and Russia than Twitter ever did. It's "free speech", not "free for me speech".
And it's so fortunate Elon bough Twitter and brought free speech back.
Something that’s not true at all.
Sure it is. Go on Twitter and say how much you hate MAGA, watch as you don't get banned.
He seems to be anti-government control, which I support.
Control of what? Go on, be specific. Control of the machine that's generating mass amounts of child sex abuse imagery for pedophiles to enjoy?
Here the thing the AI itself isn't the problem, it's the people using AI that is the fucking problem, it's like taking a hammer, and using it for all good reason, but then got FUCK UP people using it for BAD reasons to attack, or kill others, so yeah that kind of where we stand with AI it's fucked overall that some people will use it for fuck up things.
Here example, and he right how AI was used for fuck up things. I won't defend AI because it easily can be used for problems we didn't need, or want happening, and yet this where we come to, and I didn't even go over the fact some AI are providing false, misleading, out-of-date, or wrong information to some, or certain questions. Can google up examples of Chatgpt, or etc that gives bad answers.
But the biggest problem with AI, is companies are using it to cut corners, just so they can rush things, and pocket money. People getting laid off for AI, Devs using AI to make content, or updates, looking at you Microsoft with that AI update had to roll back on, and so on.
Sweeney is right on this one.
Punish those who do shitty stuff with the tool, as well as the creators who refuse to fix the tool's exploits.
Really fucking shitty to advocate to ban something just because some dipshits misuse it.
It's like banning all pickup trucks just because some terrorists in the middle east mount RPGs and guns on it to kill civilians.
No, he isn't. The fact that when confronted with this Musk's response was to bury it behind a paywall proves that there was no misuse. Musk is fully fine with it generating sexually exploitative content.
Can someone explain to me why he is bad?
I 100% agree with the idea that everything should be open and we should only punish transgressions, but I'm guessing that's not what everyone else is reading between the lines because of this sub.
He is, quite literally, defending the creation of child sex abuse material in the linked tweet. It's become a massive problem on Twitter with Grok, and Timmy decided that he was gonna stick his neck out for the pedophiles.
No, he is saying that we should not block tools from future use because someone made a mistake with it.
Should we punish Grok and Twitter for CP? Yes.
Should we ban Grok and Twitter altogether? NO.
That's like saying we should ban all dems because some of them were happy Charlie Kirk was murdered and that's a violent opinion.
That’s the stupidest fucking comparison I’ve read in years.
Twitter is privately owned and operated. It is not a public service or an important good, it’s nothing more than a social media site. If its owner and operator are unable or unwilling to properly moderate it or even put in place rudimentary blocks for this kind of disgusting content, then it absolutely should be banned until they do.
Bro, he is willing, why would you assume he did it on purpose?
Should we have banned ChatGPT because they told how to make bombs when they started? Should we ban cars because people kill people with them?
Should we close the whole freaking internet because you can pirate things with it and find CP as well?
We need to make culprits pay, not force delete everything in it's grasp. That's not how the law works.
Elon Musk is a perverted creep, and if you believe that this was accidental, you're painfully naive.
Do you have even the smallest piece of evidence to back the claim he took time to create CP? You sound sooo insane.
Should all of X be accused of it as well? I'm sure those pesky receptionist probably had a hand as well! /s
I never said that he created CP himself, dipshit. But if you don't understand how he guides policy, then you're just another clueless shill.
Stop the Stupidsay. It's just stupidsay.
No, the CEO didn't risk his billions of dollar company to make some creeps don't even need to google CP.
That's all in your head, you have no evidence, just a very biased opinion and very loud Stupidsay.
but what good does banning it do if the people running it still get away with it. prosecute elon and co for refusing to moderate grok, prosecute the people using it to distribute CSAM and revenge porn. and finally transfer twitter to the employees who *weren't* behind this, or its former owner.
It hurts their income. It hurts their reputation. It hurts their outreach and visibility.
"Prosecution" for stuff like this usually ends up being nothing more than a slap on the risk; a token fine of a few million dollars or so that really accomplishes nothing for someone as rich as Musk. Tangible action like banning it can be much more impactful, and also much more immediate. Prosecution could take months or even years to conclude, a ban could be considered and enacted in just a few days.
I'm all for prosecuting those responsible for this, including those who have been using Grok to obtain these images. But right now the best thing to do it so simply ban it until there are sensible limitations and restrictions put in place to prevent Grok from being able to successfully respond to these kind of requests.
if its banned elon and co just move on, and make a new platform. then everyone goes there. and worse the government uses whatever was setup to enact this ban to ban access to other websites. do you really want the US government to choose where people can express themselves? because it wouldn't stop with twitter and a ban certainly wouldn't stop people using "tools" like grok.
It should absolutely be taken offline until they can demonstrate that the system is safe to be used and WON'T generate CP on demand. (Not that Elon is genuinely opposed to that situation.) This shit should never have been allowed to run rampant without regulation.
Should we ban any company until they prove they are inocent? Should we do that with people as well? I remember that being a literal reason every single country in the world sought their independence.
We cannot go back to "provide proof of innocence of accept life in jail"
I get you hate that guy, but it's not his fault, it's like cars exactly. Should we ban them because some people use them to trample others? Does that make sense? Because if this doesn't make sense to you, you're indoctrinated.
Elon has directly monkeyed with Grok's programming multiple times. If it's spitting out CSAM, it is absolutely his fault to some degree. If he wanted to shut it down, he would. (But of course, he doesn't, because he's best friends with the pedophile elites.)
Bro, he is the CEO, he literally measures work in lines of code written. He knows nothing about coding nor forced grok to show CP.
If you can provide proof of that, show it so we can all ask him to spend his life in jail, if you cannot, stop spreading stupidsay.
You are way too invested in defending the continued spread of CSAM for me to take anything you say seriously.
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GTFO
How tolerant of you.