I realized I built shed slightly off from where my permit required. Later I built a concrete slab for the shed, in the place my original permit required, and I moved the shed onto the slab. I submitted the paperwork to my HOA which became automatically approved because they refused to hold a vote in the 15 days our CC&Rs require. I also confirmed that the special type of permit I had allowed me to do all of this without another permit.
A member of our Architecture Review Committee that frequently complains about things I build checked into my permits for this ‘on behalf of our Architecture Review Committee’. Attached is a letter from the building inspector she was contacting about my permits. It is a master level of placation. He said ‘it sounds as though this work will require a permit’ and said if she got me to submit a new permit then contacted him, he would review it to determine if a permit was needed. He basically said she should get me to submit a permit so he could determine if I needed a permit. She was now permanently off his back and on mine. She acted as if deputized by the city to do this important work and demanded I submit the permit then, contact her. I didn't understand why she insisted I contact her after submitting the permit until she sent me the email the inspector sent to her. Obviously, I was never going to submit a permit to see if I needed a permit. Even after I pointed this out to her she didn’t see the issue.
She was furious I refused and eventually she filed a complaint with the city, which came out and inspected my work, complimented me on it, and closed her complaint confirming I had all of the permits needed. Even after her complaint was closed, she insisted I needed a permit.
There was also a shed addition that became approved because she held up the vote past the 15 days trying to hinder it.
My read of the image without context is that the building plans inspector thinks the other person is describing their desire to build a shed, and the inspector is giving their normal generic answer that once plans are submitted, they will review the plans. In other words, they're professionally saying "stop bothering me until you have specifics I can actually look at".
A building permit is not the same thing as ARC approval. Building permits are actually useful and meaningful and evaluate things that are important.
I don't really understand how that relates to your story, because it isn't the inspector saying you need a permit permit. It's the inspector saying "I can't give you any more specific advice if all you've got is a nebulous "does a shed a need a permit?" question. Because sometimes the answer is yes, and sometimes it's no, and sometimes I'd approve the permit, and sometimes I wouldn't. It all depends on the specifics.
You are basically reading it correctly. He was the inspector on my original permit and did not know in detail what I was doing so he couldn't give an exact answer on if it met the original permit but I expect my neighbor, who knew even less, insisted on an answer but couldn't give him details. That is what I love about his wording. It is 100% accurate and fits virtually any situation.
I had a friend that did hundreds of permits and inspections that helped me and I told my neighbor what my friend said, but she refused to listen and continued to insist I submit a permit.
FYI - When I did my original permit this inspector was wonderfully helpful for me. I feel for what he has to go through. This neighbor when she was the HOA president also stalled the approval of an addition to the shed saying the same inspector suggested she should require a permit with my application. That is contrary to our Covenants and the inspector confirmed he never said that. They don't make recommendations to HOAs, its not their job and they have no idea what is allowed. Our City inspectors are very professional and knowledgeable. Her stalling caused the addition to automatically approve.
Did you ever tell your neighbor to fuck off? Because that’s what she needed to hear.
Perhaps I was not direct enough when I indicated her issue.
I'd rub that last little bit in her face and tell her to kick rocks.
Sometimes long since grown children need a spanking.
I often joke some people on my architecture committee act like a child with chocolate on its face insisting it didn't eat the cookie.
Glad you got approval. A homeowner in my neighborhood didn’t submit to the arc (I’m on the arc) and eventually did submit the request after it was built. I approved it and the other two denied it so it’s a big mess now
I am sorry to hear that. I hope it can be worked out without becoming nasty. I'd put that on him but at least your ARC is making an effort.
I'm in Florida and mine has to vote in a meeting I can attend due to a state law. I recently had something the Treasurer decided he could reject on his own. He didn't want to spend the time organizing a meeting or holding a vote so he just sent me an email saying he rejected it. We have no identifiable standards (only about 30 pages of Covenants and maybe 10 pages of rules, none of the rules are about the ARC). Sometimes a verbal application is accepted, sometimes people play games demanding more paperwork. We have a specific set of documents needed that are almost never supplied.
Ours also learned they need to have an appeals process back in 2013 and they still don't have one.
Or this bish could just be on time and make actual trouble for you. Glad she's not smart enough to do so.
Tell her that she should submit a permit request to the city requesting a permit to request that you send a permit request to the city so that they can determine if you need a permit or not. Or better yet, see if you can get someone at the city to give you a permit for you to tell her to fuck off...
I love it!
You have a permit. It might be slightly outdated, but it sounds to me like all you were doing was correcting an improper placement of the shed approved in the original permit. I work in permitting myself and usually in this situation, if I understand it correctly, I'd want to know what permit # the original shed was under, ask a few questions to make sure I understand the proposed work and probably just re-issue another # under the same documents. I wouldnt need you to resend, I have the original paperwork already. The only time I require resubmittals are because of significant changes to scope, name changes of responsible party, or if there has been an update toour permitting regs.
So I'd tell your neighbor you already have a permit, so stop harassing you about needing to submit a permit.
Thank you. Good advice
What I really enjoy about Reddit is I can get solid advice from an expert in the field along with hilarious ones, like recommending nude parties in my backyard with lots of bending over.
I like the funny ones. At my job I encounter my fair share of crazies. They call about the dumbest most petty stuff. We have to investigate, annoyingly, and in my mind I want to tell the crazy what I really think, but have to bite my tongue and be professional.
Lead poisoning
Maybe there is something in my neighbor's water!
I would argue not possible, because it's the same water you have.
While you, my friend clearly have your wits about you...
She's been eating nothing but paint chips.
I love it. Good point.
It sounds like all this confusion would have been avoided if you would have done the work correctly per the permit to begin with
I did make a mistake.
I had a survey done on my yard that it turned out was not accurate, then I added to that error when I measured the location of the shed off the survey line, I was not completely perpendicular to the survey line when I measured. I remeasured when I had a new survey done and found the error.
I said I would be about 7 feet from a water and sewer easement and it was less than 3 feet. That was a verbal commitment I made to the zoning Board when I got the permit. The ARC application and the permit did not require an exact location for the shed, just a box drawn on the site plan.
Jfc.. mistakes happen. He corrected it. Get the stick out of your tail.
lol, all I’m saying is that was the problem.
No. You were nitpicking. He's trying to do things right. This is* fuck hoa... not... ummm actually... bootlicker eta : is
I know what I was and wasn’t doing. But whatever you say.
And wow, so impressed by the witty name calling…
Sure thing, Junkie.