"Rogers went through the subdivision’s financial records. Between the beginning of the year and Halloween, the neighborhood had collected almost $200,000 in fines when they budgeted for $40,000 in revenue."
Let say you are a super strict HOA person - would it be reasonable to focus on repeat offenders, patterns and stuff like among sure houses are maintained? For this, they are probably throwing fines out for every small thing
Sure, maybe. That doesn't seem to be what the article is reflecting, though. One homeowner reported getting HOA approval to cut down a tree, and then being charged a $500 violation for cutting down the tree. I'm not omniscient - so I don't know whether he's leaving something out of that story or not. But building a depleted reserve by a levying a sudden frenzy of fines and foreclosures can accomplish what HOAs ostensibly prevent - the lowering of property values. Particularly now that news of it has hit the press - who is going to want to buy into this HOA now?
This particular subdivision is run by a property management company - SIXES. With that level of fining, the company that is probably somehow profiting off of fining the homeowners.
I imagine when they follow the money this property management company is going have some severe legal trouble. (And the people performing the excessive fines should have some criminal charges IMHO)
This was my first thought - a property management company getting a cut of fines.
The PM co. in question is a "group" suggesting one company bought out others. The larger these things get, the worse it will be, and God help us if big private equity decides to involve itself in this realm.
Respectfully, read the fracking article. It specifically says the board was appointed due to not having a vote in over a decade. That implies apathy of the community.
In other words, the larger association doesn't care enough to get involved.
All it would take is a few motivated members to drum up support in the association to recall the board or demand elections per the CC&R's to get a new board put in place.
Hey, I asked, you answered, and I take your point. I was focusing on this sudden fee activity resulting in the collection of near a quarter million dollars in ten months.
GWINNETT COUNTY, Ga. — A homeowners association in Dacula has issued over $400,000 in fines and is now foreclosing on homes, causing concern among residents.
The Daniel Park subdivision’s HOA was scheduled to meet to discuss these issues, but the meeting was canceled after the venue, a local church, declined to host due to the contentious nature of the situation.
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Neighbors in the subdivision have expressed concern over the actions of their HOA, reaching out to Channel 2 Action News for assistance.
“[I got] an approval to cut a tree down, and when I cut it down, I got a $500 fine,” neighbor Tim Gorisek said.
They told Channel 2’s Eryn Rogers they have asked for documents like board minutes, financials and voting records, but it has been difficult to get a response.
“We just want a transparent board. We don’t want to have to beg for records. They should just be published. They should be accessible,” said neighbor Noel Rooney.
Rogers went through the subdivision’s financial records. Between the beginning of the year and Halloween, the neighborhood had collected almost $200,000 in fines when they budgeted for $40,000 in revenue.
“There have been excessive fines to the point where our cash reserves have been built on the fines, not on the dues that are paid yearly,” Rooney said.
Bryan Cherrie said he has lived in the neighborhood for 21 years and nearly lost his home after a back-and-forth about a door replacement, and facing foreclosure.
“It culminated this April when I get a knock from the sheriff, and they were trying to take my home for $37,000,” he said.
The property manager and attorney said they are operating in accordance with governing documents and Georgia law.
Residents said excessive fines have been issued for infractions like leaves being in the yard as the season changes. They also said they have not had a vote on a new board in a decade, and most of the current members were appointed.
I have to wonder how much is or has been skimmed from those fines. H.O.A. property management companies often has far to much power over the homeowners. Which in part is that they're the ones whose contract takes precedence over any agreement signed with the H.O.A. itself. Which imo both H.O.A.s and the H.O.A. management companies needs reined in, and their "authority and power" needs regulated and harshly restricted.
"Rogers went through the subdivision’s financial records. Between the beginning of the year and Halloween, the neighborhood had collected almost $200,000 in fines when they budgeted for $40,000 in revenue."
Something ain't clean in the buttermilk.
Let say you are a super strict HOA person - would it be reasonable to focus on repeat offenders, patterns and stuff like among sure houses are maintained? For this, they are probably throwing fines out for every small thing
Sure, maybe. That doesn't seem to be what the article is reflecting, though. One homeowner reported getting HOA approval to cut down a tree, and then being charged a $500 violation for cutting down the tree. I'm not omniscient - so I don't know whether he's leaving something out of that story or not. But building a depleted reserve by a levying a sudden frenzy of fines and foreclosures can accomplish what HOAs ostensibly prevent - the lowering of property values. Particularly now that news of it has hit the press - who is going to want to buy into this HOA now?
So an out of touch board that was appointed instead of elected because of apathy of the association.
This particular subdivision is run by a property management company - SIXES. With that level of fining, the company that is probably somehow profiting off of fining the homeowners.
I imagine when they follow the money this property management company is going have some severe legal trouble. (And the people performing the excessive fines should have some criminal charges IMHO)
This was my first thought - a property management company getting a cut of fines.
The PM co. in question is a "group" suggesting one company bought out others. The larger these things get, the worse it will be, and God help us if big private equity decides to involve itself in this realm.
What statements in the article are you basing that assumption on?
Respectfully, read the fracking article. It specifically says the board was appointed due to not having a vote in over a decade. That implies apathy of the community.
In other words, the larger association doesn't care enough to get involved.
All it would take is a few motivated members to drum up support in the association to recall the board or demand elections per the CC&R's to get a new board put in place.
Hey, I asked, you answered, and I take your point. I was focusing on this sudden fee activity resulting in the collection of near a quarter million dollars in ten months.
Downvoted for conceding your point. Ah, Reddit.
This board lives in the neighborhood correct? If they feel safe to live there after pulling shit like that, then shame on the neighborhood.
You ain't kidding... This is the kind of thing that would have me acting a wee bit irrational towards the people trying to foreclose my home.
God damn I hate geoblocking bullshit on news websites.
Apparently I'm not worthy of reading their articles, because I don't live in the US.
GWINNETT COUNTY, Ga. — A homeowners association in Dacula has issued over $400,000 in fines and is now foreclosing on homes, causing concern among residents.
The Daniel Park subdivision’s HOA was scheduled to meet to discuss these issues, but the meeting was canceled after the venue, a local church, declined to host due to the contentious nature of the situation.
[DOWNLOAD: Free WSB-TV News app for alerts as news breaks]
Neighbors in the subdivision have expressed concern over the actions of their HOA, reaching out to Channel 2 Action News for assistance.
“[I got] an approval to cut a tree down, and when I cut it down, I got a $500 fine,” neighbor Tim Gorisek said.
They told Channel 2’s Eryn Rogers they have asked for documents like board minutes, financials and voting records, but it has been difficult to get a response.
“We just want a transparent board. We don’t want to have to beg for records. They should just be published. They should be accessible,” said neighbor Noel Rooney.
Rogers went through the subdivision’s financial records. Between the beginning of the year and Halloween, the neighborhood had collected almost $200,000 in fines when they budgeted for $40,000 in revenue.
“There have been excessive fines to the point where our cash reserves have been built on the fines, not on the dues that are paid yearly,” Rooney said.
Bryan Cherrie said he has lived in the neighborhood for 21 years and nearly lost his home after a back-and-forth about a door replacement, and facing foreclosure.
“It culminated this April when I get a knock from the sheriff, and they were trying to take my home for $37,000,” he said.
The property manager and attorney said they are operating in accordance with governing documents and Georgia law.
Residents said excessive fines have been issued for infractions like leaves being in the yard as the season changes. They also said they have not had a vote on a new board in a decade, and most of the current members were appointed.
Thank you!
I’m thinking they could raise more money by charging money to that goat rodeo of a community meeting. I pay for streaming!
I have to wonder how much is or has been skimmed from those fines. H.O.A. property management companies often has far to much power over the homeowners. Which in part is that they're the ones whose contract takes precedence over any agreement signed with the H.O.A. itself. Which imo both H.O.A.s and the H.O.A. management companies needs reined in, and their "authority and power" needs regulated and harshly restricted.