Can't be worse than the tank we had last night that refused to use tank stance. 

The first boss in Qarn is a jerk and weirdly there's not a lot a healer can do about it, since the main gotchas are uncleansable Doom and Final Sting Vespes (although you should remember to help the DPS kill those).

The point of leveling is to learn though and it sounds like you learned.

I can guarantee that most of those wipes on that boss weren't your fault, the boss doesn't do that much damage iirc and you can't really do much if everyone else doesn't cleanse their doom.

In my opinion, scholar is the most difficult healer to run. White mage is probably the easiest, and sage isnt terrible either.

First of all, good job. Healing for the first time is a feat and you shouldn’t beat yourself for wipes. It’s a learning curve! Also like FrosttheTos said, Qarn’s first boss is a doozy for first time healers. I still hate the doom and final sting mechanic even as an experienced healer.

Secondly, low level healing is kind of a pain. Period.

I’m too pea brained to do shield healing but I am rooting for you!

How I run scholar is I start dpsing while keeping an eye on the party list. If Eos can't keep up on HP on her own then I'll throw in a heal until the target is full, then back to DPS.

Eh we was all new once 🤔

I used to tank without rotating cooldowns on every pull 🤦🏼‍♂️

Tbf those early dungeons are a pain in the ass...no buttons 😭

FYI, people you recently ran duties with are listed in your Contacts menu, in case you want to try messaging them directly

I hate when healers know what to do and are either too lazy to do their job or aren't paying attention and distracted by other things

I DON'T hate when a new healer doesn't know how to heal yet. that I can work with, and I will never get upset at someone in that position

Healing is a learning experience! And the first boss of sunken temple having a doom mechanic is not friendly for a first time healer.

That boss is a good test of reaction time to see if a healer can notice any mistakes like someone dying of doom, trying to save someone from a final sting if the dps didn't kill the wasps and stuff like that.

My general tips for scholar is that adloquium is generally better than physick and succor before raidwides instead of after.

Scholar at that level really doesn't have most of its tools to make healing "easy" such as more instant casts as you only have whispering dawn as a regen at that level for non full cast heals

I'm about to start working on monk, haven't touched it since stormblood. Gonna be doing negative dps.

100 years self flagellation i guess

Just jumping back in after being away for over a year or so. WHM main but most are leveled to 80 so I had some experience lol. Healing takes a bit to get used to. I tell most people that are newer to it that the role requires you to watch almost nothing else aside from boss mechanics and everyone's status bar lol. I didn't even realize the structure visually of some of these dungeons until I started running tank lol. Take your time and have fun. Y'all will wipe some. Keep going!

Just wait until you start taking too much agro :p

SCHOLAR IS HARD. I could NEVER master SCH or SGE. AST for me to the grave. You are so brave for even trying, truly. 

You are perfectly fine! It could be worse, you could be a tank who is determined to speed run the dungeon without saying anything else to their teammates

It sounds like you were willing to listen and learn, so don't feel too bad about it. And definitely don't let it stop you from playing Scholar - it's a really fun job to learn and the more you make mistakes, the better you'll become.

However I am a bit confused on how you could have caused multiple wipes on the first boss. Even with the healer instantly dying, that fight is very doable with the rest of the party. I suspect they were also making mistakes and you were not solely responsible.

holds your cheeks you are not the healer that kept using level 40 skills in a level 90 dungeon, leading to the tank to exasperatedly solo the last boss. you are fine.

You don't have to post stuff like this on Reddit lol, you'll likely never see those players again, nor will they see this post.

It's really no big deal at all, everyone makes mustakes, just move on. You don't have to tell people you're new either. Just do your best, as long as you're not trolling nobody will mind.

I empathize. It is not always as easy as it seems. Thanks to the kind person who reminded me I had to have aggro on every enemy, not just the one I was attacking. Sorry as well.

Everyone starts somewhere, and we all have experience underestimating, or overestimating, our classes. As well, many of us go into a dungeon effectively "brain dead," so we ONLY notice how you're doing, if things get hard, or ya wipe. But that's how you learn, especially as a healer.

Experience grants that sweet, sweet muscle memory. If you're having trouble with a class, though, I'd recommend looking up guides on YouTube. There's plenty out there that can help you learn a class, or just improve your understanding and playstyle. Also, you listening to the advice, honestly, probably improved their nights. 

We love sprouts. Many of us have fond memories of our days as one. So, don't apologize for needing help. Let us "old-timers" enjoy the nostalgia. 

I wouldn't blame yourself for wipes on that first boss. The Doom is not cleansable by a healer, you have to step on the pad. But the attack that causes it is stunnable by the tank/melee. People really sleep on Low Blow in ARR content it does some work.

I had to do the newest dungeon recently and I did 40% of the total damage as a healer. It cant get worse than that so you are fine

Reminds of a run about a month ago - same, Qarn, same, Scholar, same Wipe... The tank wasn't particularly kind though, bitching about me using Physick and not Luminate. That 'a level 100 healer should never use Physick, ever!' and I was all 'um, I'm like 42, and this dungeon has a lot of mechanics that the 'training' dungeons I had run previously, didn't.

Fortunately, one of the DPS was a Scholar main and walked me through how to heal with the tools I actually had available, and not to rely on Physick outside of emergency heals when the tank pulled too much. It's definitely a learning curve, especially if you're coming off White Mage - but even if it's your first healer. It a lot more proactive than reactive, which feels less intuitive. But I like it. I hope you find it fun in the end. The Arcanist is my favorite class in general - I wish more classes had dual jobs. It's so fun being able to chose to play Deeps or Heals depending on your mood and still just level the one class.

Hey man, as someone who has been scared of healing in the past it's important to note two things, Qarn is still suepr early into levels and it's gonna be more likely to encounter people less comfortable with jobs at that level, you gotta learn somewhere... but also Qarn can be a bit of a jump difficulty wise with stuff like the wasps chunking down health bars and the bosses being a bit more obscure. What's important is that you stated to your party that you're new to this and they helped you through. You got this!

I once had someone I knew well join me and another friend for a run through Cutter’s Cry (which is my personal most loathed). They rolled up with no job stone and wearing cosmetic gear. Not glamoured. Wearing it.

If you only wiped multiple times on the first boss, you did better than we did.

Been in groups with a new healer and have never belittled them. I usually run as RDM and as long as the run mis over level 64, I’m good. I also carry 100 Phoenix and as long as I can use them, I will. I’ll also try to heal if I’m able too, but RDM aren’t really healers.

So many have already commented here and shared kindness and advice, but I just want to add that this is almost a universal experience for someone starting out healing!! There is absolutely no shame in a wipe, especially if you learn from it. I really hope this doesn’t put you off from continuing with your scholar adventures…! You caring this much about it already puts you ahead of the vast majority of players. I hope to queue into a roulette with you healing some point soon :3

I had a tank in Porta Decumana like 2 days ago who didn't put tank stance on. Healer and I both asked them a few minutes apart. DRG was very obviously tanking the boss because the actual tank was basically hitting Ultimas ass. We went through the entire first half of the fight with the DRG using their self heals and the WHM spamming heals. They didn't put stance on until after the mid fight cutscene. The healer was also eating every single Citadel Buster that got cast in the 2nd half of the fight.

Another healer in idr what dungeon, but it was 100% a late enough dungeon that they should've known better, did not cast one damage spell and just sat there spamming cures and regens. When nobody was taking damage they just stood there.

I have seen much worse over the 4 1/2 years I have played. If someone is receptive to politely given advice or just mentions being new, then nobody really cares. We were all new at some point and all did stupid things bc we didn't know better. Ya don't know what ya don't know. Just don't be defensive if people are being polite and trying to help. If they're being rude feel free to ignore them. Nobody is gonna die if they have to spend a couple extra minutes in a dungeon and if they are, they shouldn't be playing or can just leave early. In those cases I will usually stay back and apologize to the person for having to deal with people being assholes. It can ruin the game for them if someone is sensitive enough or if someone is mean enough, and I'd rather we not lose potential players for that reason. My friend is going through the game for the first time and even at Stormblood won't do any duties without me and she hasn't even had a bad experience lol. Shes simply too anxious to do it alone.

Scholar is a tough healer to start with. I love the job dearly, but I tend to point aspiring healers to conjurer/White Mage.

Scholar is pretty powerful in every level bracket, but it's generally fiddly at the best of times. Qarn for heavy stuff you're usually alternating Adlo and physik as well as leaning heavily on whispering dawn to get your tank through heavy pulls. In lighter pulls the fairy will usually cover the healing on its own. for damage, about the best you can really do in lieu of Art of War is throwing bio on everything as you go.

The bees can be a problem if the DPS don't know that final sting will wreck the tank if they aren't focused down as well, and the doom has to be cleared by the afflicted player. Not a lick you can do about it other than revive them after the fact.

Keep practicing and keep improving. you'll get there.

Yeah I did the same mistake too.

Never thought playing healer is that hard work

If you're here apologizing, its probably not as bad as you think, and even if it was - at least you recognize it! That means all you can do is improve from here. So don't feel bad, we've all been there. Don't give up!

Don’t worry too much. Healer anxiety is too real. That’s why the only time you’d caught me playing medic is on an FPS like TF2 and BF.

It's just a game lol

All healer classes/jobs (except maybe CONJ/WHM) are arse in lower levels, don't worry.

Once had a run where I was healing in PotD and the tank went a different direction, pulling all mobs in a room and I believe triggered a trap that spawns enemies in. The DPS and I turned the corner to the room and the tank died without a word, and the aggro went on the two DPS. I fought to keep them both alive, focusing the mobs down, then hit the rez on the tank when it was more safe to do so.

I got booted from the run because I didn't immediately rez the tank instead of making sure we didn't fail the run. I was only running for XP and to help a friend, and was told after I got kicked out that the tank was trash talking me the whole time. Lol

Sounds like a good group. They offered advice, you listened and got better at a new job. I wouldn't worry too much, I'm sure they had fun partying with you.

Honestly, wiping never bothers me if the group is a fun one and are willing to help each other learn. New players and new jobs are always welcome!

The difference between new healer, and veteran healer,
is the ratio of suck:care

dog, it's not that bad, you're probably never gonna see them again in your life, we were all sprouts too sometimes, this isn't World of Warcraft, people aren't gonna flame your ass for wiping a dungeon lol

Literally had a Tank refuse to tank stance and just sit down. Baffling. I came back from a year hiatus and never seen anything like that in my 5 years of playing the game.

Early level scholar dungeons are a bit too easy and can leave you feeling overconfident. I had the same issue for a while when I first did SCH. You go into places like Copperbell and Thousand Maws where you have to do next to no healing yourself, then you go into higher level stuff like sunken temple and suddenly, you're required to do a large portion of healing. It's a bit of a shock the first time around, and good on ya for being a good sport about it and realizing your own fault and not just blaming the party like a lot of bad healers I've seen.

Hey no worries/need to apologize
Healing can be kinda spooky and there's bound to be slip-ups especially when you're new to it. You'll get there, Scholar is kinda funky to learn but really really fun once you get it down.

If it makes you feel better I had a six wipe labyrinth of the ancients tonight. Probably two thirds of the raid was sprouts and their first time. So lots of people are having rough nights.

But that's okay. That's how you learn and improve.

Last night, while playing WHM, I came across a WAR who did not speak at all, and also didn't pop a single mitigation the whole duration of the dungeon. Imagine playing the class that, given enough time, could SOLO the dungeon, but deciding it would be fun to make it a miserable experience for everyone by never using Raw Intuition or Bloodwhetting, or anything on your kit really. One of the DPS decided to eat the penalty and we ran.

So no dude, you're fine because you TRIED. That's what matters.

For any "new player" the first boss of Sunken Temple is a nightmare. The light always disappears a ms before you hit and you die before reaching the other side. Don’t sweat it! And new healers desperately trying to Esuna the debuff to no effect.

Prefacing my response to say, I wasn't one of the players in the dungeon run OP mentioned

Don't feel bad, it happens sometimes. The two most important points I would say to take away from the experience are: It's only a dungeon, don't stress about it, and; Take it as a learning experience. Think about what happened and be honest with yourself. If there was something you believe you should have done better, or could have done differently, then try that next time. Either way, while it's nice of you to post an apology, remember everyone has off days!

Scholar was my first class i played in game at all, and so I can verify that there is a very painful point around those dungeons where it just... a tiny bit painful. Your healing spells haven't been boosted to the next level yet, and so you just kinda have to spam the 1-2 you have. It can be especially painful when playing with people who haven't done low level content in a while and thus forget that they dont have as many mitigation abilities and such.

So... while I do advise making a macro to tell party you're a baby healer, dont stress too much about a painful run. Anyone who gives you grief about it probably hasnt tried to level a healer themselves in a long time.

I ran Qarn as a healer once where the tank was only wearing a few pieces of gear, no accessories except for a lv 1 glam necklace that's only acquirable from post-HW. Ignored me when I offered to craft them some leveling gear for free. Trust me, the party you ran with has had worse experiences.

It's all good. That dungeon isn't easy for first-time healers. I just started Astro last month myself. That dungeon might as well be a right of passage for healers and tanks, no thanks to those stupid bees! XD

Hi I'm a sprout healer.

Just wanted to say you're already a better healer than most for being able to apologise and acknowledge your mistakes and try to learn from them...

I think bad healers are people who have an ego and cannot accept advise from others and think that advise is criticism and then they either get defensive and dont listen or they shut down/argue back and eventually leave without learning anything..

I had a healer yesterday in haukke manor hard that kept using cure 3 on me (I was tanking) and running out of mp. We wiped on adds so many times and first boss was so bad.. I told them to try to use cure 2 as the heal potency was higher they would use less mp and lucid dreaming when their mp is less than 8000 (I'm a healer main and a sprout. I picked up tank so I can learn to heal as best as I can)

The healer didn't listen at all and kept doing the same thing and wiping us. On first boss I told them to go to the adds if they have the pink marker on them and they didn't listen either and ran out of mp again from spamming cure 3.. (told them to try medica 2 then medica 1 for aoe heals instead as the range was better but didn't listen either) The healer said they had their "macros" set up.. I told them that they didn't need macros on white mage and Healing was more circumstantial... and then they got upset at me and logged out.

Needless to say after the healer left, we got a new healer and finished the first boss and then the run without any wipes..

So yeah.. my point is.. If you are able to accept advise from others and acknowledge where you made a mistake then.. you are already on the way to becoming a great healer/player.

I myself as a sprout healer. Keep on running roulettes a few times a day on every healer I have access to *whm, ast and sch) and also run as a tank to understand tank mechanics so that when I'm healing I can understand what they need and their buffs mean. Every thing is a learning experience.. every time I do badly in a duty I will try again and again until I can do it with my eyes closed..

When I first ran the Navel (HARD) I kept running off the side of the map and died 1000 times to stupid shit. Now I play it perfectly.

Don't worry about it if you did badly, take everything as a learning experience and know that you will get better. It's always embarrassing to fail but if you want to be a better player, you have to pick yourself up, learn and keep on practising. You got this !

Edit: some helpful tips for sch. 1. You can place eos in the middle of the room for boss fights so it will always reach everyone most of the time but remember to call eos to follow you again after the fight. 2. If you can watch a video about the duty before you go in. Make sure you look at the boss for cast times and learn what each skill they do does so you can cast shields like fey illumination, succour etc. Ahead of time 3. Physick sucks. Make sure you use adloquim it's way better. And adlo before pulls and then if the tank is dying fast, you can use swift cast adlo for a quick burst. 4. Always have your aetherflow up and ready and same for lucid dreaming when mp is below 8000. Use lustreless whenever you can especially if you need big heal bursts 5. sacred soil is also a great shield to mit some damage, its great to understand tank bufds so if they put their mit on, you can use your MIT's like sacred soil or fey illumination after they are on their cool downs 6. Keep up with the tank, if they use sprint, wait a few seconds then pop yours too.

ok?

When I ran qarn as a scholar I too had trouble keeping even just the tank up. I wonder if it has something to do with damage output of enemies at that level compared to healing abilities

Keep this attitude and use it to always improve yourself and uplift new peepo sprouts as you encounter them in the future.

Don't feel bad, it's only a game, and as long as you're putting in the effort, there's nothing to be ashamed of.

i’ve had a remarkably similar experience about an hour ago. both tank and healer were new and we wiped a bunch of times. we had to pull enemies one or two at a time because the tank died otherwise. i think it was a lot of fun because everyone was friendly and we just chatted during downtime about how much the dungeon had changed with the reworks. so i think i would’ve enjoyed playing with you.

Brother (or sister), nobody starts as a champ. If you fall down, pick yourself back up and keep trying! You’ve got a good attitude, I believe you’ll do great. None of us are ever gonna be upset with someone genuinely trying!

Qarn makes a lot of baby healers lose their minds. Don't worry about it. Healing is, indeed, a bit more involved on the party survival side until you gain better damage tools and your tanks gain better mitigation tools. Please do not let this experience discourage you!

Don't stress the majority of ffxiv players are decent people I just had a sprout 🌱 drop his aoe on me in Ultima got rezed and died immediately I thought it was funny and gave my com to the healer who had to work overtime for me. Most people are not going to be horrible to you