I first started having quite visible collarbones and a prominent ribcage when I was still deep into the overweight BMI 🤔🤔🤔 Now I'm extremely close to "healthy" BMI and...wow, I don't look skeletal! Just a normal person, with a normal level of bones showing. Seeing skeletal anatomy is NOT unhealthy, this country's vision of a normal adult body is just deeply twisted. And I am indeed wanting to be muscular and succeeding, being muscular doesn't mean you have to have a high body fat and it's impossible to have visible bones.
Yet again I am struck by how obvious it is these people have NO frame of reference for any existence outside of being overweight and they're just constantly bullshitting and making shit up.
Mine definitely were not when I was obese haha it's been pretty hilarious how often I'm shocked/confused by my body since losing weight. "WHY IS THERE A RANDOM HOLE IN MY KNEE!? ARMPITS ARE CALLED THAT BECAUSE THEY'RE LITERAL PITS!?!?!?!??"
But it just goes to show that there is a lot of variance across human bodies and saying a sweeping statement like "you should never have ANY visible bones and if you do you're unhealthy" is unbelievably asinine and misinformed.
I've had a similar reaction because I'm weightlifting and I keep finding random parts of my body that are shaped differently and feel hard now, it's wild!
But yeah because of how I gain weight, even when I was obese I had teeny tiny wrists and ankles with like almost no fat on them. For some reason my fat starts above the knee and elbows and my extremities have always been skinny. I hate it lol
When I firsI started exercising, I was showering after a workout and I was horrified to discover this THING in my upper arm. A disfiguring lump like a hard tumor. Oh god arm cancer? Until I got the courage to poke it and realized I had a muscle.
I wasn’t even overweight, just really sedentary. I guess after a lifetime of living in your own body anything new can feel unnatural and wrong at first.
Literally like I have a normal BMI of about 24.4 and I can still see a bit of my spine and ribcage. And that's normal! It's unhealthy to be underweight but a normal BMI and a few bits and pieces of bone showing is normal!!!
I will say, it IS pretty shocking when you lose enough weight to feel your bones more acutely. Sometimes I think this is what people accidentally mean when they say they were "skeletal" at an overweight BMI. It took months to get used to. Thankfully I am used to it now but it was a sensory nightmare originally. People may have become acutely aware of their bones. Even if you've been thinner before (maybe as a kid), you no longer remember what its like when you've not felt it for long enough. Just a thought.
There are probably some anatomical differences in that area too.
Remember that stupid "thigh gap" trend? I have straight legs and my hips are on the narrower side, even when I was underweight I didn't have a visible gap but other people do, even at a normal weight.
Yeah, I have some collarbone definition these days at a BMI of 25–26-ish, but even at my lowest weight, it was never super visible. I think that one might just be how I’m built. Mine feel fairly level with the bones that are below them and the area above them is very fleshy, so I can really only see shadowy outlines in weird lighting.
Mine have never been prominent, even at a very low weight (BMI 16.5, thankfully no longer there)! For whatever reason they’re just not super visible. My ribcage, on the other hand, is prominent even when overweight. Bodies are weird, man.
People have been super weird about this lately. Like fit people are being called unhealthy because their ribs and collarbones show. 😭 They are so divorced from normalcy and reality
Yeah, there are some bones that require a lot of extra adipose tissue before they are completely covered. Like, you usually only show visible weight gain in your hands and wrists - covering the joints - when you are very obese.
Stuff like collarbones, knuckles and for some people ribs are visible at a healthy weight but I do agree that the spine shouldn't be visible unless you curl your back and the whole sternum being visible seems kind of extreme as well.
But people like that always think in extremes I guess, they seem to think visible bones = all bones are supposed to stick out at all times.
"Muscular, fat, or a little chunk" - so if muscular is okay, then they could be skinny and it's okay? Or only if they're like body builder big is okay? These people make no GD sense!
At my most muscular, I still have visible bones because I'm not building up the muscles around my collarbone? Or my wrists? OOP's thinking literally makes no sense
I’ve always wondered what they think of muscular people. We certainly don’t look skinny or bony, but we do tend to have lower body fat percentages than even most thin people. Why doesn’t that offend FAs? It takes a lot more work to be muscular than it does to simply not be obese.
tbh a lot of them like gym bros, so there's already cognitive dissonance. Add to that, that a lot of them gulp down the "gym people do drugs (steroids), therefore they're just as unhealthy as me = no offensive"
Being skinny (BMI-wise) is pretty easy for me. Not being skinny fat is a lot harder. You can lose weight by just not eating so much, but building muscle requires a lot of consistency, constantly upping the challenge level because you get too strong for your own workout routine, and also making sure your nutrition can support whatever bulking or body recomp goal you’re aiming for.
Now, I was trying on new frames for glasses yesterday and I tried on an overly large set of frames that made me look like a middle schooler from the 1980s.
Being thin had nothing on the babyface those glasses were giving me.
Wow, I kind of feel pity for OOP here. They must be terribly miserable and self-hating if thin people simply existing trigger them to such a level. And I do hope they'll eventually get the psychological help they clearly need.
But! FA people shaming on thin people is just as bad as the opposite, and neither group has the right to belittle the other (or both have and nobody should take it to the heart). I am genuinely tired of them bending themselves over rhetorically trying to justify calling entirely average-looking people children, skeletons etc., and implying that there must be something wrong if people find thin people attractive (then they turn around and lament the same being said about them).
I’ve said tummy my whole life, even though my dad finally started correcting me saying “you're and adult, please don’t say tummy” but it’s just stuck in my brain and I don’t know why. I’ll say “tummy ache” and “it makes my tummy look big”, etc. It’s like a burned in word from childhood. Which is why they use it - it’s childish! They infantilize themselves while calling healthy weight people children!
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My other mental/verbal stick is saying carrots when I mean corn. I’m paranoid about saying it right and even get myself more confused right after I try to say corn, even if I say it right.
Asking for the carrots at a restaurant, or worse, a cafeteria when you’re pointing at the corn and the server doesn’t know what to do, is so embarrassing!
Muscular people at a low body fat percentage have a lot of visible bones lol. They know nothing about the human body and what is scientifically proven to be good health markers. We've figured out that the healthy range has broadened a bit when it comes to a healthy bodyfat percentage that doesn't pose any threats or problems, but that doesn't mean it's cut out the other end of the spectrum of being thin altogether lol.
I'm 60 years old. I can assure you that, regardless of how thin I may or may not be, I look like an adult. I've looked like an adult since I became an adult.
This is particularly funny because while there’s already an epidemic of insufferable millennials obsessed with how they look sooooooo young, younger than actual young people I’ve noticed a lot of fat bloggers in particular making claims that their fat keeps them extra youthful looking and the thins look old and haggard. Pick a lane!
I’m a Millennial who does look young compared to some of my cohort but like… I wouldn’t say younger than like actual 20-somethings. I do find it a little bizarre when I see people my age or older who say they still look like teenagers. I’m like… no, we look our age, we just don’t look like we’ve been drinking and smoking since age 13 like some of our family members did.
Im 31 and forgot my ID buying alcohol a few months back, freaked out about it and the cashier was like... nah you're fine lol no need for ID. Humbling moment. Guess we do look older now.
I’m also 30. I think we on the youngest end of Millennials can make a case for being mistaken for college students because, to be fair, you don’t actually know how old anyone in college actually is and mature students exist. I was in college around 25-26.
People in their 40s saying “omg I look so young” do make me laugh because I’m like… nah you don’t look old but you don’t look like you’re in college either lol.
I’m 41 and got asked for ID buying alcohol last week, I’m in the UK where they’re supposed to ask if they think you look under 25 but I really don’t think the person checking had looked at me properly. I feel like I look younger than my own mother did at 40 but equally she now looks younger at 71 than I remember my grandma looking at that age, I think your brain just adjusts as you get older. My children are pretty certain I’m ancient 😂
I'm 35 and people both older and younger than me seem to guess 25. I'm pretty happy about that but I think it's mostly due to me having long hair, dressing trendy and not being obese vs my face itself.
I will say this . People said the same thing about me at that age. Then at 39 it hit my at once. I read we age in stages as adults and I think I hit the next stage.
I'm ok with that. Part of living and all. I look a lot like my mom so I basically have a picture of my future appearance lol. But I already have the image of the old lady I want to be and the style I want to have (I wanna be one of those slim, boho beach old ladies haha).
I think for a lot of them, the only time they were at a healthy weight was when they were children. Therefore, they associate those who are at a healthy weight or smaller with looking like a child.
Seems really weird to list niche features of a thin person's physique in such a way.
It reminds me of that chick's speech to Heath Ledger in that movie where she's listing the titular '10 Things I Hate About You', those things clearly being the reasons she's hopelessly in love with him.
"You're supposed to have cellulite",because that's a straight up lie. Cellulite can appear at any age and weight, or never at all.
"You're not supposed to look like you've been through a famine"... specially precious coming from the FA crowd, would mean: fat?. I know they can't but, make it make sense!
You absolutely should have some visible bones. Visible collarbones, knuckles and wrist bones, your spine when you're curved and your rib cage when you lift your arms up are all normal and healthy, and are good visual signifiers of a healthy BMI. It makes me sad that our societal perception of a healthy weight is so so warped.
I hate this “no visible bones”. I have sticky out collarbones, pointy shoulders and a big rib cage. Doesn’t matter what weight I am, you can see them (granted I’ve never been obese). I’m currently towards the top end of healthy weight and you can still see my bones! I also still looked like an adult when I was underweight so…
The fact that thin people are superior athletes proves her wrong. Only a tiny percentage of people at the Olympics are fat, and there are athletes who participate in the events these fat people are in who are not fat, showing that you don't even need to be fat to do well in them. The reverse cannot be said to be true: there are no fat people anywhere near the top participating in the 5,000m, high jump, cycling, hurdles, poll vault, sprinting, swimming, tennis, rowing, rock climbing, triathlon, gymnastics, etc.
I'm still technically in the obese category, even after losing over 100lbs and you can see my collar bones. Also my cheek bones for once but that's besides the point lol. These people are so fucking deluded.
Practically everyone, including those at the beautiful end of the spectrum that modern society has deemed "conventionally attractive," carry some:
fat on their arms
fat on their thighs
layers of flesh covering their bones
Even sticking to superficial beauty standards, there is no mainstream standard advocating for purging your body of these things. The accepted standard is just to have to have them in an amount proportionate to the rest of the things making up your body.
> you are supposed to [insert body characteristic here]
I thought we weren't judging people's health or worth based on their bodies...?
Also, I sincerely doubt that people who love this post are "muscular" in the way that they're trying to claim here. Most people that FAs drool over have muscles AND a lower body fat percentage.
This person is obviously extremely miserable. I kind of feel bad for them. I can't imagine living my life being so angry, so profoundly unhappy, and just being so focused on hating other people who don't even think about you.
They can keep screeching this bullshit until they burst, but it will never disguise the fact that this is industrial grade copium fuelled by boiling envy and shame. The one who needs help and therapy is the one posting these tantrums.
some people don't have a tummy pooch and that's okay.
The opposite of all of these is also okay.
It's the OBESITY that's a health problem, not cellulite. I was a size 4 and had cellulite, stretch marks, AND a lil pooch, true story! (I was thin and untoned, chile. 🤣)
The denial to stay fat and die young is astounding.
Well, you're not eally supposed to have a visible sternum, because you should have sufficient muscle to cover it. But that's different from covering it with fat. Ribs and spine though, those are frequently visible when someone is a healthy weight.
Are these people denying that there are humans that can't gain weight?
I've known at least 3 people who have this condition, and they were absolutely not happy about it. All of them absolutely look like adults.
We are not supposed to look like the "heroine chicks" models from the 90s, but we are not supposed to have an apron belly, dying because we walked some stairs and not being able to fit in normal seats in public places.
Alright, real talk. It’s crazy because this is objectively nuts, but I understand it started from a good place. I have said it before in this sub and I will say it again, eating disorder culture perpetuates this fat logic lunacy.
I used to have a really fucked up eating disorder. I aspired to look child-like. I resented every curve I had and the width of my hips. I was literally jealous of children. I had a thinspo folder on my ipod (I’m showing my age here) and I would look at the photos of bony women whose spines and hip bones and elbows you could make out clearly while I ran on a treadmill in an attempt to burn all the calories I consumed. And it sounds awful to admit it, even anonymously, but I was not the only one. I got all my stupid ideas from other people online.
I understand OOP is trying to push back against destructive and hurtful rhetoric, but in their rejection of this, they have not just sabotaged their own ideas of health, acceptance, and beauty, but they are spouting this idiotic shit to other people.
You can be thin and healthy. You can have visible bones and be healthy. People’s bodies are different. Some people have prominent ribs. Some people hold fat in different areas. Stop alienating people.
I'm loving the "you're not supposed to look like you've been through a famine (even though you HAVEN'T!)" thing. And yet so many of these people insist that they're overweight because of famine several generations ago. I'm genetically from people who have experienced actual famines and slavery but, shockingly, I'm overweight because I eat a lot of fatty foods and drink a shitload of beer. My New Years resolution is to cut down on both and again, surprisingly, I will indeed lose weight. Nothing to do with genetics, pretty sure my black, enslaved and starved relatives have bugger all to do with my weight. I made myself fat, not my long dead and gone relatives.
I post before and after pics and maintenance pics every 6 months on progresspics here. I would challenge anyone to say I don't look like an "adult" at my lower weight lol.
I have a hard time telling what I really look like objectively. I’m 5’5 and my highest weight was 176 when I was 9 months pregnant with my first kid, and as low at 117. My husband and mom were more concerned with the sickly grey palor of my skin and secondly concerned with how much weight I had lost so fast (anemia and thyroid). I asked my husband after reading THIS post.. what do I actually look like? Scary skinny like a teenager? Or average? He said “you’re just skinny. Not like, scary skinny, but like a normal, petite woman” he said normal. Petite. WOMAN. WOOOOMAAAANNNNN 🫠 sorry if this was rambling but it made me feel better bc sometimes this shit gets into my head even though I know it’s a load of horseshit! For as much as they preach that dIeT cULtUrE gives people body dysmorphia, this “if your thin your unhealthy and look like a child” is just as bad. Of course, it only works on one direction though…
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I don't really care if fat people hate my body. I'm sure a crazy homeless person also thinks I'm "stupid" because I don't know about the chemtrails and gay frogs. I can't possibly take offense at that, can I?
I first started having quite visible collarbones and a prominent ribcage when I was still deep into the overweight BMI 🤔🤔🤔 Now I'm extremely close to "healthy" BMI and...wow, I don't look skeletal! Just a normal person, with a normal level of bones showing. Seeing skeletal anatomy is NOT unhealthy, this country's vision of a normal adult body is just deeply twisted. And I am indeed wanting to be muscular and succeeding, being muscular doesn't mean you have to have a high body fat and it's impossible to have visible bones.
Yet again I am struck by how obvious it is these people have NO frame of reference for any existence outside of being overweight and they're just constantly bullshitting and making shit up.
Yeah I'm overweight and my collar bones are visible and they were when I was still obese too 🙃
Imagine not having visible elbows, knuckles or skull lol. They did not think "ANY bones" through
Some of them are indeed fat enough for an elbow or knuckle to be obscured.
That's actually insane when you really consider it!!
You can see it very often on My 600lb Life. Pretty horrifying, really.
Mine definitely were not when I was obese haha it's been pretty hilarious how often I'm shocked/confused by my body since losing weight. "WHY IS THERE A RANDOM HOLE IN MY KNEE!? ARMPITS ARE CALLED THAT BECAUSE THEY'RE LITERAL PITS!?!?!?!??"
But it just goes to show that there is a lot of variance across human bodies and saying a sweeping statement like "you should never have ANY visible bones and if you do you're unhealthy" is unbelievably asinine and misinformed.
I've had a similar reaction because I'm weightlifting and I keep finding random parts of my body that are shaped differently and feel hard now, it's wild!
But yeah because of how I gain weight, even when I was obese I had teeny tiny wrists and ankles with like almost no fat on them. For some reason my fat starts above the knee and elbows and my extremities have always been skinny. I hate it lol
When I firsI started exercising, I was showering after a workout and I was horrified to discover this THING in my upper arm. A disfiguring lump like a hard tumor. Oh god arm cancer? Until I got the courage to poke it and realized I had a muscle.
I wasn’t even overweight, just really sedentary. I guess after a lifetime of living in your own body anything new can feel unnatural and wrong at first.
Yes! After I lost weight I honestly felt a muscle in my abdomen and thought I had a tumor!
Even at my heaviest, my hip bones stuck out. Not super sharp, but they were obviously there! People are so silly
I won’t lie, shaving my armpits was way easier when I was heavier and they weren’t actual ‘pits’.
Literally like I have a normal BMI of about 24.4 and I can still see a bit of my spine and ribcage. And that's normal! It's unhealthy to be underweight but a normal BMI and a few bits and pieces of bone showing is normal!!!
I will say, it IS pretty shocking when you lose enough weight to feel your bones more acutely. Sometimes I think this is what people accidentally mean when they say they were "skeletal" at an overweight BMI. It took months to get used to. Thankfully I am used to it now but it was a sensory nightmare originally. People may have become acutely aware of their bones. Even if you've been thinner before (maybe as a kid), you no longer remember what its like when you've not felt it for long enough. Just a thought.
I'm no expert and someone correct me if I'm wrong, but "You're not supposed to have ANY visible bones in general" strikes me as 100% backwards.
I think you *are* supposed to have visible bones, and if you don't have any at all, you're definitely overweight and probably obese.
Collarbones should definitely be visible at least.
I saw someone say "I'm not fat but I still can't see my collarbones" like wtf I saw my collarbones while I was obese
There are probably some anatomical differences in that area too.
Remember that stupid "thigh gap" trend? I have straight legs and my hips are on the narrower side, even when I was underweight I didn't have a visible gap but other people do, even at a normal weight.
Yeah, I have some collarbone definition these days at a BMI of 25–26-ish, but even at my lowest weight, it was never super visible. I think that one might just be how I’m built. Mine feel fairly level with the bones that are below them and the area above them is very fleshy, so I can really only see shadowy outlines in weird lighting.
Speaking as someone with genetic cankles (seriously, even at my thinnest those narrow-ankle jeans were way too tight) that seems entirely possible.
Mine have never been prominent, even at a very low weight (BMI 16.5, thankfully no longer there)! For whatever reason they’re just not super visible. My ribcage, on the other hand, is prominent even when overweight. Bodies are weird, man.
People have been super weird about this lately. Like fit people are being called unhealthy because their ribs and collarbones show. 😭 They are so divorced from normalcy and reality
They’re conflating “visible” with “protruding”.
I think almost everyone looks starvation-level bony when you’re so accustomed to obesity. In America we are often so desensitized.
Yeah, there are some bones that require a lot of extra adipose tissue before they are completely covered. Like, you usually only show visible weight gain in your hands and wrists - covering the joints - when you are very obese.
Stuff like collarbones, knuckles and for some people ribs are visible at a healthy weight but I do agree that the spine shouldn't be visible unless you curl your back and the whole sternum being visible seems kind of extreme as well.
But people like that always think in extremes I guess, they seem to think visible bones = all bones are supposed to stick out at all times.
"Muscular, fat, or a little chunk" - so if muscular is okay, then they could be skinny and it's okay? Or only if they're like body builder big is okay? These people make no GD sense!
At my most muscular, I still have visible bones because I'm not building up the muscles around my collarbone? Or my wrists? OOP's thinking literally makes no sense
I’ve always wondered what they think of muscular people. We certainly don’t look skinny or bony, but we do tend to have lower body fat percentages than even most thin people. Why doesn’t that offend FAs? It takes a lot more work to be muscular than it does to simply not be obese.
tbh a lot of them like gym bros, so there's already cognitive dissonance. Add to that, that a lot of them gulp down the "gym people do drugs (steroids), therefore they're just as unhealthy as me = no offensive"
No it's because they don't want to offend them cuz they want to get banged by them
They love you, because you validate their BMI index results (they have a high BMI, but so do you, and you're healthy, so they're healthy. Duh.)
Sadly, you are probably right.
Being skinny (BMI-wise) is pretty easy for me. Not being skinny fat is a lot harder. You can lose weight by just not eating so much, but building muscle requires a lot of consistency, constantly upping the challenge level because you get too strong for your own workout routine, and also making sure your nutrition can support whatever bulking or body recomp goal you’re aiming for.
I think they're saying "muscular" like "muscley gym bro."
I'm thinking more like bodybuilders, but we could both be right. They sure as heck aren't talking about athletes who are muscular and lean.
Muscular like Glitterandlazers! She’s recomping! It’s muscle, not fat! /s
Her doctors can't believe the rate at which she recomps
I dunno, I look plenty like an adult while thin.
Now, I was trying on new frames for glasses yesterday and I tried on an overly large set of frames that made me look like a middle schooler from the 1980s.
Being thin had nothing on the babyface those glasses were giving me.
I think you are placing the blame on the glasses when clearly it’s because you have a skeleton and we can tell /s
Wait, there’s a skeleton? Inside me? Those aren’t just scary Halloween stories? /screams
It's so ridiculous how they constantly infantilize and shame thin people. I thought we were supposed to be body positive here? /s
My BMI is currently 30.9. I've been able to see my sternum for a while now. I'm pretty sure I'm not starving.
Wow, I kind of feel pity for OOP here. They must be terribly miserable and self-hating if thin people simply existing trigger them to such a level. And I do hope they'll eventually get the psychological help they clearly need.
But! FA people shaming on thin people is just as bad as the opposite, and neither group has the right to belittle the other (or both have and nobody should take it to the heart). I am genuinely tired of them bending themselves over rhetorically trying to justify calling entirely average-looking people children, skeletons etc., and implying that there must be something wrong if people find thin people attractive (then they turn around and lament the same being said about them).
I’m going to make an FA bullshit drinking game, starting with:
Skinny people look like children
“Famine”
Body shaming healthy people, but still totally bOdY pOsItIvE, right?
“Tummy”
(On second thought, this might kill me)
if I made an exercise game out of it, even an incredibly easy one, I'm pretty sure I'd be out of my current state of skinny fatness by new years
I’ve said tummy my whole life, even though my dad finally started correcting me saying “you're and adult, please don’t say tummy” but it’s just stuck in my brain and I don’t know why. I’ll say “tummy ache” and “it makes my tummy look big”, etc. It’s like a burned in word from childhood. Which is why they use it - it’s childish! They infantilize themselves while calling healthy weight people children!
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My other mental/verbal stick is saying carrots when I mean corn. I’m paranoid about saying it right and even get myself more confused right after I try to say corn, even if I say it right.
Asking for the carrots at a restaurant, or worse, a cafeteria when you’re pointing at the corn and the server doesn’t know what to do, is so embarrassing!
I call meat loaf oat meal, because my mom put oatmeal in her meat loaf i guess haha
Bingo!
>You are SUPPOSED to have a tummy
I do. It just isn't bulging or hanging over my waistband.
This is the most obesogenic, brainrotted, my-experiences-are-universal-law ice cold take I've seen all day.
Also childish. "tummy", not stomach. Talk about overgrown spoiled brats.
"You can't tell who is unhealthy just by looking at them!" but also this
I’m class 2 obese and you can almost see my collarbones and sternum. You can definitely feel them.
All bodies are good bodies, right FAs?
Muscular people at a low body fat percentage have a lot of visible bones lol. They know nothing about the human body and what is scientifically proven to be good health markers. We've figured out that the healthy range has broadened a bit when it comes to a healthy bodyfat percentage that doesn't pose any threats or problems, but that doesn't mean it's cut out the other end of the spectrum of being thin altogether lol.
I'm 60 years old. I can assure you that, regardless of how thin I may or may not be, I look like an adult. I've looked like an adult since I became an adult.
This is particularly funny because while there’s already an epidemic of insufferable millennials obsessed with how they look sooooooo young, younger than actual young people I’ve noticed a lot of fat bloggers in particular making claims that their fat keeps them extra youthful looking and the thins look old and haggard. Pick a lane!
I’m a Millennial who does look young compared to some of my cohort but like… I wouldn’t say younger than like actual 20-somethings. I do find it a little bizarre when I see people my age or older who say they still look like teenagers. I’m like… no, we look our age, we just don’t look like we’ve been drinking and smoking since age 13 like some of our family members did.
yeah, I mean I'm 30 and people will still ask me what I'm going to study in college.
Im 31 and forgot my ID buying alcohol a few months back, freaked out about it and the cashier was like... nah you're fine lol no need for ID. Humbling moment. Guess we do look older now.
Ive been sober for 6 years but when id buy booze at a grocery store theyd bust my balls so much. It really doesnt bother me outside of dating.
I’m also 30. I think we on the youngest end of Millennials can make a case for being mistaken for college students because, to be fair, you don’t actually know how old anyone in college actually is and mature students exist. I was in college around 25-26.
People in their 40s saying “omg I look so young” do make me laugh because I’m like… nah you don’t look old but you don’t look like you’re in college either lol.
I’m 41 and got asked for ID buying alcohol last week, I’m in the UK where they’re supposed to ask if they think you look under 25 but I really don’t think the person checking had looked at me properly. I feel like I look younger than my own mother did at 40 but equally she now looks younger at 71 than I remember my grandma looking at that age, I think your brain just adjusts as you get older. My children are pretty certain I’m ancient 😂
I'm 35 and people both older and younger than me seem to guess 25. I'm pretty happy about that but I think it's mostly due to me having long hair, dressing trendy and not being obese vs my face itself.
I will say this . People said the same thing about me at that age. Then at 39 it hit my at once. I read we age in stages as adults and I think I hit the next stage.
I'm ok with that. Part of living and all. I look a lot like my mom so I basically have a picture of my future appearance lol. But I already have the image of the old lady I want to be and the style I want to have (I wanna be one of those slim, boho beach old ladies haha).
I don't look like a child... if someone looks at me and sees "child" just because I am now thin, then they either need an optometrist or psychiatrist
Adult is when obesity 🤪🥳
I think for a lot of them, the only time they were at a healthy weight was when they were children. Therefore, they associate those who are at a healthy weight or smaller with looking like a child.
I’m obese (maybe morbidly? I hope not. Working on it).
Anyway, I have visible bones, such as my collar bones, wrist bones, ankles, if I hunch my back you can see some of my spine.
Not being able to see ANY bones must be someone absurdly rotund.
I honestly don’t know why I read this I knew it was gonna make me feel like shit… like a car crash, you can’t look away
I dunno, man.
Seems really weird to list niche features of a thin person's physique in such a way.
It reminds me of that chick's speech to Heath Ledger in that movie where she's listing the titular '10 Things I Hate About You', those things clearly being the reasons she's hopelessly in love with him.
My favorites are:
You absolutely should have some visible bones. Visible collarbones, knuckles and wrist bones, your spine when you're curved and your rib cage when you lift your arms up are all normal and healthy, and are good visual signifiers of a healthy BMI. It makes me sad that our societal perception of a healthy weight is so so warped.
I hate this “no visible bones”. I have sticky out collarbones, pointy shoulders and a big rib cage. Doesn’t matter what weight I am, you can see them (granted I’ve never been obese). I’m currently towards the top end of healthy weight and you can still see my bones! I also still looked like an adult when I was underweight so…
The fact that thin people are superior athletes proves her wrong. Only a tiny percentage of people at the Olympics are fat, and there are athletes who participate in the events these fat people are in who are not fat, showing that you don't even need to be fat to do well in them. The reverse cannot be said to be true: there are no fat people anywhere near the top participating in the 5,000m, high jump, cycling, hurdles, poll vault, sprinting, swimming, tennis, rowing, rock climbing, triathlon, gymnastics, etc.
They hate themselves but deflect that hate onto what they are not, as a self-defense mechanism
I'm still technically in the obese category, even after losing over 100lbs and you can see my collar bones. Also my cheek bones for once but that's besides the point lol. These people are so fucking deluded.
This has got to be bait. Please
So being thinner means you don’t look like an adult? That would imply youthfulness? And youthfulness is a symbol of health? Hmmm.
Practically everyone, including those at the beautiful end of the spectrum that modern society has deemed "conventionally attractive," carry some:
Even sticking to superficial beauty standards, there is no mainstream standard advocating for purging your body of these things. The accepted standard is just to have to have them in an amount proportionate to the rest of the things making up your body.
Jealousy. That's it. That's the answer.
> you are supposed to [insert body characteristic here]
I thought we weren't judging people's health or worth based on their bodies...?
Also, I sincerely doubt that people who love this post are "muscular" in the way that they're trying to claim here. Most people that FAs drool over have muscles AND a lower body fat percentage.
The last sentence is correct. But I have a feeling they think not wanting to be obese is the same thing as wanting to be a skeleton.
Wow... They are just making things up to see if they can convince other people. It's really becoming ridiculous.
This person is obviously extremely miserable. I kind of feel bad for them. I can't imagine living my life being so angry, so profoundly unhappy, and just being so focused on hating other people who don't even think about you.
They can keep screeching this bullshit until they burst, but it will never disguise the fact that this is industrial grade copium fuelled by boiling envy and shame. The one who needs help and therapy is the one posting these tantrums.
Preach.
their viewpoint is unnatural.
Everyone doesn't have cellulite and that's okay.
Everyone doesn't have fat arms and that's okay
some people don't have a tummy pooch and that's okay.
The opposite of all of these is also okay.
It's the OBESITY that's a health problem, not cellulite. I was a size 4 and had cellulite, stretch marks, AND a lil pooch, true story! (I was thin and untoned, chile. 🤣)
The denial to stay fat and die young is astounding.
Well, you're not eally supposed to have a visible sternum, because you should have sufficient muscle to cover it. But that's different from covering it with fat. Ribs and spine though, those are frequently visible when someone is a healthy weight.
Are these people denying that there are humans that can't gain weight?
I've known at least 3 people who have this condition, and they were absolutely not happy about it. All of them absolutely look like adults.
We are not supposed to look like the "heroine chicks" models from the 90s, but we are not supposed to have an apron belly, dying because we walked some stairs and not being able to fit in normal seats in public places.
Alright, real talk. It’s crazy because this is objectively nuts, but I understand it started from a good place. I have said it before in this sub and I will say it again, eating disorder culture perpetuates this fat logic lunacy.
I used to have a really fucked up eating disorder. I aspired to look child-like. I resented every curve I had and the width of my hips. I was literally jealous of children. I had a thinspo folder on my ipod (I’m showing my age here) and I would look at the photos of bony women whose spines and hip bones and elbows you could make out clearly while I ran on a treadmill in an attempt to burn all the calories I consumed. And it sounds awful to admit it, even anonymously, but I was not the only one. I got all my stupid ideas from other people online.
I understand OOP is trying to push back against destructive and hurtful rhetoric, but in their rejection of this, they have not just sabotaged their own ideas of health, acceptance, and beauty, but they are spouting this idiotic shit to other people.
You can be thin and healthy. You can have visible bones and be healthy. People’s bodies are different. Some people have prominent ribs. Some people hold fat in different areas. Stop alienating people.
I'm loving the "you're not supposed to look like you've been through a famine (even though you HAVEN'T!)" thing. And yet so many of these people insist that they're overweight because of famine several generations ago. I'm genetically from people who have experienced actual famines and slavery but, shockingly, I'm overweight because I eat a lot of fatty foods and drink a shitload of beer. My New Years resolution is to cut down on both and again, surprisingly, I will indeed lose weight. Nothing to do with genetics, pretty sure my black, enslaved and starved relatives have bugger all to do with my weight. I made myself fat, not my long dead and gone relatives.
"Any visible bones" -- jfc, how obese are you?!
I post before and after pics and maintenance pics every 6 months on progresspics here. I would challenge anyone to say I don't look like an "adult" at my lower weight lol.
I have a hard time telling what I really look like objectively. I’m 5’5 and my highest weight was 176 when I was 9 months pregnant with my first kid, and as low at 117. My husband and mom were more concerned with the sickly grey palor of my skin and secondly concerned with how much weight I had lost so fast (anemia and thyroid). I asked my husband after reading THIS post.. what do I actually look like? Scary skinny like a teenager? Or average? He said “you’re just skinny. Not like, scary skinny, but like a normal, petite woman” he said normal. Petite. WOMAN. WOOOOMAAAANNNNN 🫠 sorry if this was rambling but it made me feel better bc sometimes this shit gets into my head even though I know it’s a load of horseshit! For as much as they preach that dIeT cULtUrE gives people body dysmorphia, this “if your thin your unhealthy and look like a child” is just as bad. Of course, it only works on one direction though…
Because they know that for the most part so long as actually decent looking women exist, no one would be willing to date them
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I had visible collarbones while I was still obese.
I’d rather be what they call a skeleton than what I used to look like.
I can see my knuckle bones when I make a fist, so I guess I don't look like an adult 🤷🏻♀️😆
"my way is correct. If you arent my way, you are sick and need a doctor. Doctor is wrong tho if he says youre healthy and i am not tho."
A visible sternum can be a sign of underlying health conditions. but the rest is very normal.
I don't really care if fat people hate my body. I'm sure a crazy homeless person also thinks I'm "stupid" because I don't know about the chemtrails and gay frogs. I can't possibly take offense at that, can I?
The way our society glorifies anorexia is just crazy. I’m anorexic right now and my hair is falling out some days.. Thin is not good