40, NW $20M. 2 kids under 7.
I’m not talking about travelling with kids (lots of posts about that on here already). Has anyone tried establishing 2 home bases with their kids under 10?
Wife and I are from different countries, with aging parents in each. Pre high school, has anyone lived in 2 countries with their kids? Idea would be private schooling in both countries (allow kids for partial years), home bases, routine with extra curricular activities etc. 6 months each until high school.
TIA
From a kids perspective, that sounds miserable. Stability is important. I agree with picking one, and maybe doing Summers/holidays in the other.
This - kids need stable friendships (heck adults do too). My wife and I have been nomadic for the last 3 years and finally decided to settle for two years just to get stability and build some solid friendships.
Why not school years and summers? It would be simpler, if arguably unfair to the parents who got less time
This is the answer, and even then it is going to be hard from middle school onwards as the kids get involved in sports and activities which often have programs running on the breaks. Let alone that they start to develop their own friendships/relationships and dont want to leave their friends for months at a time.
If they’ve been going all their lives hopefully the parents will have made an attempt to ensure they have friends at the second home that they only see in the summer, the way a lot of us had “camp friends”
You can certainly try. Both of my kids were born and grew up overseas while vacationing in the states for school holidays.
The friends from where they spend the majority of their time are definitely their "real friends".
But all kids are different.
As others have thoroughly said, this sounds horrible for your kids for stability and friendships.
But additionally, I don’t foresee any halfway-decent school being ok with this. Where I live, the good private schools get far more applications than there are spaces, even for kindergarten, and there’s no shortage of people with far higher net worths than you trying to get in. If they were told that they’d have no control over a student’s curriculum or development for half of every year it would be a quick rejection.
It goes beyond that, most countries have truancy/attendance laws and it may not be legal to educate your kids part of the time in one country and somewhere else another part of the time.
That sounds terrible for your kids. They want a friend group.
Splitting summers and school year might be okay, but still not great.
Not seeing many comments with first hand experience. I can speak from PoV of kid moving around and splitting time. Bottom line, kids miss out on activities their primary friend group does while they are away. Nothing can really change that, though with modern social media there’s a bit more info flowing. I resented the hell out of that (of course now as an adult I look fondly upon those memories, but in the moment I was annoyed).
Kids will pick a group of friends they view as “home base” or primary. They will develop an identity around that. I don’t know how much say as an adult you’ll have with that (only through deciding where they spend more time, but that’s not a guarantee). Being in a “foreign” setting will be a novelty and also stressful. I frequently wanted to go back to what I had prior to moves as a kid and fit in with those friends back “home”. As time passed it was impossible and I’d get quips that they no longer saw me as one of their own. Still welcomed to hang out, but as a novelty/foreigner/someone they used to know. That sucked.
While you definitely should expose kids to their ancestral cultures and teach the languages, it’s going to be next to impossible to have them feel true part of both as kids. There’s some strange drive to have certain of which group you belong to and if that’s thwarted bad things can happen with teen rebellion. I’m guessing it’s a survival instinct humans developed.
All that said. Have you considered moving the aging parents and supporting them through it? You certainly have the means. I’ve had moderate success here, but far better than trying to commute like this (though I’d love to actually commute for my own benefit as I love spending time in Europe).
It sounds awful for your kids, exhausting for you and probably unsatisfactory for aging parents who need constant and steady support.
If my parents had done this when I was a teenager, I would have been absolutely miserable. Involvement in my sports and music activities was crucial to my development, and those are fixed in one place. My orchestra and teams couldn’t follow me around countries, and those were crucial to my social and personal development.
Your kids deserve to have lives that are centered on their developmental needs. Consistently pulling them out of their schools, friend groups, and their activities sounds mean and destabilizing.
Kids would absolutely hate this.
We do school year in one, summers in another. That allows the kids to make friends and participate in extracurriculars. Then they go to summer home and get to see some old friends. We would never try to split the year 6 months/6 months. I can’t see how that would even work unless you homeschool or tutor your kids.
Doesn't sound fun for the kids, also a nightmare to manage curriculum continuity and making sure they get the correct credits, although maybe not as bad as high school.
I'd do 10/2 instead, not 6/6.
At your NW, homeschooling with a private full time tutor/governess. The governess will have to be travel with you in both locations, establish education contacts in both locations for socialization, club/team sports, instrument/music education.
Largest challenges would be immigration/visas and curricula construction at different grade levels. I foresee alot of time interviewing and time testing out different educators to find out who would fit best with the lifestyle and children's personalities.
This works out for YOUR life but your kids will not like this unless secure friendships/attachments are made in each location. This may not matter under 9; at 10-18, attachments matter ALOT more.
I’m doing this. It hasn’t been easy, it takes a tremendous amount of up front and ongoing work to manage this. The kids have one group of friends / favorite activities in one country, and another routine in the 2nd country. I think as my kids approach high school age, we’re going to commit to one high school location so they can have a dedicated and consistent friend group.
At least in America, you are going to struggle with extracurriculars being split like this. Teams and programs require commitments.
Can you name the countries? Big difference if it's like USA and Australia vs Norway and Equado
It doesn’t work. We’ve tried. You have to have a 90% and 10%. Kids hate anything else.
You’ll figure this out quickly, but this will NOT work with kids.
Do it. Kids are the center of the universe too much these days. Optimal? Probably not. But they’ll be fine.
Inb4 downvotes: OP Remember you’re on here asking basement dwellers with money on Reddit, in the real world people move for work and do this all the time. Reddit would have you believe they’re all going to rebel and turn into mega meth crackheads living their teenage years in their 30s. But if you raise them right, they won’t
Not what you asked, but could you convince one set of parents to move to the other location, assuming you can figure out visas? Sounds like that might be the easiest on your family.
It’s so funny how people who have never done this think it’s horrible for kids.
We did it for awhile. The kids talk so fondly of it. They make friends anywhere so quickly.
Now when we travel, they will make friends with any kid even if they don’t speak the same language.
We have done it multiple years but home base in US and hit up other countries for 3-6 months at a time.
It’s fantastic. Do it. Especially when kids are young. We did it when they were 2 and 6.
In another year, we will go abroad again for a year.
Kids make friends so easily in school. They will learn languages and new cultures. And eat all kinds of new foods.
It’s great. Don’t listen to people who haven’t done it and it sounds tough.
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